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BombaySapphire3 03-04-2016 06:36 PM

From what I can glean Richard is saying that Dave is working on Stevie's tracks for the Fleetwood Mac album.That is the question that he was responding to.I could really see Stevie insisting that Stewart produce her songs for the album as silly as that seems.

Macfanforever 03-04-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1179113)
I doubt she cares what fans think. She's going to do what she wants to do.. That's what an artist does..

I dont know about that .She cares but she has a life too and do what she wants.

If she did not care.Why bother putting out 24K and maybe a second one.Us fans only know the demo music.


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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1179114)
From what I can glean Richard is saying that Dave is working on Stevie's tracks for the Fleetwood Mac album.That is the question that he was responding to.I could really see Stevie insisting that Stewart produce her songs for the album as silly as that seems.

I think maybe thats whats happening .I have no problem with that and it will get done fast with him.

Macfan4life 03-05-2016 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1179114)
From what I can glean Richard is saying that Dave is working on Stevie's tracks for the Fleetwood Mac album.That is the question that he was responding to.I could really see Stevie insisting that Stewart produce her songs for the album as silly as that seems.

Oh Gosh. I hope that is NOT true. This is NOT a Stevie solo album for her to bring in some private producer. Maybe she is doing this to irritate Lindsey. Its almost as bad as when she wanted Sheryl Crow to take Christine's place.
Please let that not be the case. I want a real Fleetwood Mac sound on the new record.

MikeVielhaber 03-05-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1179128)
Oh Gosh. I hope that is NOT true. This is NOT a Stevie solo album for her to bring in some private producer. Maybe she is doing this to irritate Lindsey. Its almost as bad as when she wanted Sheryl Crow to take Christine's place.
Please let that not be the case. I want a real Fleetwood Mac sound on the new record.

And you'll get it. Just maybe not on Stevie's tracks. ;)

welcomechris 03-05-2016 03:15 PM

Hey guys, I'm lazy and don't feel like reading thru all of this.

Can anyone tell me the facts? What we do know.

Thanks!

shackin'up 03-05-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1179136)
Hey guys, I'm lazy and don't feel like reading thru all of this.

Can anyone tell me the facts? What we do know.

Thanks!

Basicly, we know no facts. Besides that LB and CM concocted an album together two years ago that is almost finished. They both are proud of it and Walk around with it in the media like a bull with seven d;cks. SN holds up the thing by not participating... yet.

aleuzzi 03-05-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1179137)
Basicly, we know no facts. Besides that LB and CM concocted an album together two years ago that is almost finished. They both are proud of it and Walk around with it in the media like a bull with seven d;cks. SN holds up the thing by not participating... yet.

Pretty much.

jbrownsjr 03-05-2016 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1179137)
Basicly, we know no facts. Besides that LB and CM concocted an album together two years ago that is almost finished. They both are proud of it and Walk around with it in the media like a bull with seven d;cks. SN holds up the thing by not participating... yet.

Carnival Begin!!!

Macfanforever 03-05-2016 09:42 PM

I hope that Dave gets involve and get things done without the songcrafting holding it up.A great move for Stevie .Thats whats going to happen if he doesn't get involve .Here goes the Stevie bashing again.I have no idea why the others in the band let things out about this album.We probably better off now without knowing the details until something with all of them got involve.

KenshiMaster16 03-05-2016 11:51 PM

I remain quite a fan of Dave's work on the tunes that got released as part of the In Your Dreams album. Lots of catchy production work there.

I'd been very interested in seeing what Dave and Lindsey could do together on her tracks, honestly speaking.

elle 03-06-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1179137)
Basicly, we know no facts. Besides that LB and CM concocted an album together two years ago that is almost finished. They both are proud of it and Walk around with it in the media like a bull with seven d;cks. SN holds up the thing by not participating... yet.

perfect summation.

this post should be bumped every now and then when people go off the rails in their speculations.

elle 03-06-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1179144)
II have no idea why the others in the band let things out about this album.We probably better off now without knowing the details until something with all of them got involve.

:xoxo: because they want to shame Stevie into joining them on the album?

if by "we" you mean Stevie is better off - sure, she's better off if we didn't know it. if this was not out, it would look like all the macsters don't want the album and haven't done anything on it, not just her.

maybe others in the FM are tired of being blamed for no new albums from FM, or for how long it supposedly takes for them to put the album together, when they actually want new albums more than anyone?

FuzzyPlum 03-06-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1179093)


The more I think about it the more I think Richard really hasn't got a clue. Though he might speak to a couple of them every now and then I'm not sure he's really privy to what's going on.

I've just spent 10 minutes looking back through Dave Stewart's twitter (it reminded me that Twitter's such a pile of sh!t, waste of people's lives- apologies to those Ledgies that tweet) and there's absolutely nothing to suggest he might have been doing any production for Stevie. He seems to have been so busy promoting his book and doing so many other things it would seem difficult to fit in any sort of production for Stevie Nicks (but who knows- he does seem to always be able to juggle a lot of projects). That's not to say there aren't any future plans.

Richard did say it's something he heard or read somewhere... he really doesn't know- probably read something on here at some point.

AliceLover 03-06-2016 03:41 PM

The fact that Waddy and Jimmy are touring is the most telling of all. The Dixie Chicks tour is huge, Joe Walshs' is smaller, but the timeline could suggest recording with the Mac in the spring. She's no fool. She's not gunna waste any time while she's still healthy. There hasn't been a year of inactivity in over 20 years. Something is in the works.

Frankenstein 03-06-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1179128)
Oh Gosh. I hope that is NOT true. This is NOT a Stevie solo album for her to bring in some private producer. Maybe she is doing this to irritate Lindsey. Its almost as bad as when she wanted Sheryl Crow to take Christine's place.
Please let that not be the case. I want a real Fleetwood Mac sound on the new record.

I agree. If the Dave Stewart thing does come to fruition, it just shows what a divide there is between Stevie and the others, IMO. Disappointing.

louielouie2000 03-06-2016 07:09 PM

I still think y'all are off base. I don't think Stevie would ever get her songs on a Fleetwood Mac album without Fleetwood Mac members actually playing on her songs. All she is doing right now (if she's actually doing anything at all) is getting help from Dave in regards to transforming her poetry into demo form. She can then bring those demos to Fleetwood Mac for them to craft into completed songs. This is exactly the way she's worked for 35 years. Rewatch Destiny Rules- Stevie only shows up to the recording of Say You Will once she's gotten her demos ready for prime time. That's ALL that's going on here.

jbrownsjr 03-06-2016 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover (Post 1179166)
The fact that Waddy and Jimmy are touring is the most telling of all. The Dixie Chicks tour is huge, Joe Walshs' is smaller, but the timeline could suggest recording with the Mac in the spring. She's no fool. She's not gunna waste any time while she's still healthy. There hasn't been a year of inactivity in over 20 years. Something is in the works.

Stevie is smart. She knows she can't sell lots of material like she used to do. She only gets 13 days in a studio because the record company knows it's not going to spend $$$ for months on end for an album that won't sell.. She's playing casinos, touring w/ Rod Stewart...

With FMac... She gets her own limo, flies in the FM jet, gets multi million payoff...

I do respect that despite having to go a little cheaper, she still puts out a small machine. But, it's time for her to contribute to the band that got her there. She can make some magic. It's been a mutually beneficial gig for all the members. Here's hoping..

Josh2003 03-07-2016 11:31 AM

And who is to say Dave won't join the whole band in the studio come April (if Christine's quote from that recent interview is accurate) and work primarily on Stevie's tracks, with Lindsey also participating to some extent in overseeing the overall production of the album?

They talked extensively in the past about bringing in an outside producer for the album (LB's choice being Mitchell Froom), so that's not a new idea. And having that outside producer (here, Dave Stewart) working only on Stevie's songs also doesn't seem too out of the ordinary for this band. Why not have Dave and LB share co-production credit's on Stevie's songs?

SeanJT 03-07-2016 12:07 PM

Excellent idea, Josh2003. Dave Stewart made Stevie's songs on 'In Your Dreams' sound magical; more like Stevie than she has sounded since the early 80's.

I love Dave Stewart, and I think the collaboration with Lindsey will make Fleetwood Mac sound more like Fleetwood Mac than they have since 'Mirage' / 'Tango'.

With the momentum they have with 'Extended Play' ('Sad Angel', 'Miss Fantasy') as well as the latest interview with Christine saying the new music sounds a bit like 'Rumours', bringing Stevie in co-produced by Dave and Lindsey sounds like a prefect formula.

I only hope it will be a double album like the Eagles' 'Long Road Out of Eden'.

:angel:

wheart 03-07-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1179180)
I still think y'all are off base. I don't think Stevie would ever get her songs on a Fleetwood Mac album without Fleetwood Mac members actually playing on her songs. All she is doing right now (if she's actually doing anything at all) is getting help from Dave in regards to transforming her poetry into demo form. She can then bring those demos to Fleetwood Mac for them to craft into completed songs. This is exactly the way she's worked for 35 years. Rewatch Destiny Rules- Stevie only shows up to the recording of Say You Will once she's gotten her demos ready for prime time. That's ALL that's going on here.

I think you're spot on. But remember Dave wrote most of the music for most of the songs on IYD so I think she's getting more than just a little help from him. I believe she's actually writing the songs with him. Her ability to write music seems to have faded in recent years.

shackin'up 03-07-2016 12:39 PM

Still, it is a pity that she doesn't bring in her poetry and rough pianodemos to lindsey. In my opinion her last good FM song is on mirage.

kathy1 03-07-2016 01:02 PM

i hope this is true.

FuzzyPlum 03-07-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanJT (Post 1179196)
Dave Stewart made Stevie's songs on 'In Your Dreams' sound magical

I respect your opinion SeanJT but I'd also respectfully have to disagree with you.
I thought he made Stevie's In Your Dreams songs sound okay- nothing special and certainly not 'magical'. If he were to produce any FM songs like IYD then I'd predict it being quite a bland FM album. I hope this doesn't happen.

Though I have no reason to believe there's any bad blood between Lindsey and Dave I have a feeling Lindsey would rather eat his Turner Model 1 than allow Dave Stewart to have production credits on a Fleetwood Mac album.

Macfan4life 03-07-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1179203)
I respect your opinion SeanJT but I'd also respectfully have to disagree with you.
I thought he made Stevie's In Your Dreams songs sound okay- nothing special and certainly not 'magical'. If he were to produce any FM songs like IYD then I'd predict it being quite a bland FM album. I hope this doesn't happen.

Though I have no reason to believe there's any bad blood between Lindsey and Dave I have a feeling Lindsey would rather eat his Turner Model 1 than allow Dave Stewart to have production credits on a Fleetwood Mac album.

I agree with you 100%. Dave Stewart was genius with the Eurothmics. But his stuff with Tom Petty was odd and his stuff with Stevie was bland. It was good but I would prefer to hear Lindsey and Christine mold Stevie's raw demos than them being brought with Dave's influence.

nicole21290 03-07-2016 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1179203)
I respect your opinion SeanJT but I'd also respectfully have to disagree with you.
I thought he made Stevie's In Your Dreams songs sound okay- nothing special and certainly not 'magical'. If he were to produce any FM songs like IYD then I'd predict it being quite a bland FM album. I hope this doesn't happen.

Though I have no reason to believe there's any bad blood between Lindsey and Dave I have a feeling Lindsey would rather eat his Turner Model 1 than allow Dave Stewart to have production credits on a Fleetwood Mac album.

Amusingly, Lindsey was the first one to float this idea publicly, not Stevie.

Boston Herald, 2009

http://rockalittle.com/article_bostonherald_mar6_09.htm
How far along are you in planning a new Fleetwood Mac album?

We aren’t far along in any specific sense. My mantra is to work on my dynamic with Stevie. She was a little uncomfortable when we got on the road last time, for whatever reason. Part of it was that she missed Christine, part of it was that I was getting 50 percent of the face time onstage and she wasn’t used to having a guy get all that space. I think it threw her context out a little. So this time around I am very much wanting to make everyone as comfortable as possible and have that be the most important thing. But we have discussed, when this tour is done, going into the studio. The only specific we know is that we are leaning toward finding an outside producer. I think it would help to have an overviewer. It was pretty hard taking the reins last time. Not so much with the music but with the band politics.

Have any producers in mind?

We had a short list, but I have no idea. We’ve talked about everyone form Daniel Lanois to Dave Stewart to Rick Rubin. That pretty much runs the gamut of approaches. We have to meet with a few people and see how it feels.

aleuzzi 03-07-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1179208)
Amusingly, Lindsey was the first one to float this idea publicly, not Stevie.

Boston Herald, 2009

http://rockalittle.com/article_bostonherald_mar6_09.htm
How far along are you in planning a new Fleetwood Mac album?

We aren’t far along in any specific sense. My mantra is to work on my dynamic with Stevie. She was a little uncomfortable when we got on the road last time, for whatever reason. Part of it was that she missed Christine, part of it was that I was getting 50 percent of the face time onstage and she wasn’t used to having a guy get all that space. I think it threw her context out a little. So this time around I am very much wanting to make everyone as comfortable as possible and have that be the most important thing. But we have discussed, when this tour is done, going into the studio. The only specific we know is that we are leaning toward finding an outside producer. I think it would help to have an overviewer. It was pretty hard taking the reins last time. Not so much with the music but with the band politics.

Have any producers in mind?

We had a short list, but I have no idea. We’ve talked about everyone form Daniel Lanois to Dave Stewart to Rick Rubin. That pretty much runs the gamut of approaches. We have to meet with a few people and see how it feels.

Seven years later and I'm still wondering if a full album will ever see the light of day.

SeanJT 03-07-2016 06:22 PM

Thank you for that article, nicole21290!

I am thinking specifically of how Stevie, Lindsey, and Dave brought 'Soldiers Angel' together. It's a very cool scene from the 'In Your Dreams' documentary.

I believe it will work, and I believe the next/last album will come to fruition and be even more magical than we expect.

Macfanforever 03-07-2016 06:29 PM

Holy crap.Thanks Nicole for the info .Wow. That long ago.I see Lindsey dropped Dave's name.Lets see if Dave gets onboard with them.

Macfanforever 03-07-2016 06:32 PM

Maybe they can merge the 4 EP tunes to this new album and add Chris's magic to them.

Macfanforever 03-07-2016 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1179161)
:xoxo: because they want to shame Stevie into joining them on the album?

if by "we" you mean Stevie is better off - sure, she's better off if we didn't know it. if this was not out, it would look like all the macsters don't want the album and haven't done anything on it, not just her.

maybe others in the FM are tired of being blamed for no new albums from FM, or for how long it supposedly takes for them to put the album together, when they actually want new albums more than anyone?

OK .I see.

jbrownsjr 03-07-2016 10:06 PM

And you’re ready to jump into the studio as soon as this tour is over?

Stevie Nicks: I would very much like to do that. I think the world should have one more kickass Fleetwood Mac record. This tour could go on for 135 shows, but when we come off the road we will be a finely tuned, well-rehearsed band, which is the best thing to be when you go into the studio because you’re already hot. Your chops are up, you’re singing great, you’ve been playing fantastic music for a year. And writing on the road is really fun. Not to mention that we already both have enough songs to do a record now. But it all depends on if we’re having fun and enjoying each other.


ummmm

SeanJT 03-08-2016 08:44 AM

Where is this Stevie quote from, jbrownsjr?

jbrownsjr 03-08-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanJT (Post 1179239)
Where is this Stevie quote from, jbrownsjr?

http://rockalittle.com/article_bostonherald_mar6_09.htm

(courtesy of Nicole)

Nick 03-08-2016 10:12 PM

That interview is from 2009?

jbrownsjr 03-09-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1179256)
That interview is from 2009?

March 2009 was the publish date..

Macfanforever 03-09-2016 11:17 AM

2009 . Stale news.LOL................During or around the time of the Unleashed tour.

MikeVielhaber 03-09-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1179275)
2009 . Stale news.LOL................During or around the time of the Unleashed tour.

Yeah she then went on to refuse to participate in a new album following that tour.

jbrownsjr 03-09-2016 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1179279)
Yeah she then went on to refuse to participate in a new album following that tour.

I wonder why. You would think having Christine gone it would bring a more B/N flavor back to the fold. According to Mick's book, it was just the opposite.

DauphineMarie 03-09-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1179293)
I wonder why. You would think having Christine gone it would bring a more B/N flavor back to the fold. According to Mick's book, it was just the opposite.

I don't think Stevie wants FM to be over, because in her mind it signifies the end. She is very much a sentimental woman, and I think her apprehension is more of her subconscious not wanting to admit surrender to time/old-age. Notice in all her interviews from years ago, she always mentions herself being old, still doing this when she's old, etc. It shows a preoccupation with with the concept aging.

There would be no logical reason for her to "refuse" working with the album, because its not like she's competing for album sales, hates Lindsey too much, or is too busy with other things. She made 24KG work by releasing it MIDWAY through a FM tour (!!!) and still hasn't toured behind it, so obviously if she had plans of her own she would have attempted to accomplish them by now. With Christine back, I think it gives her some fuel to keep going, but I also think she's starting to see the end of the road, and its scaring her, so she's flipping out.

That's my psychological evaluation though, not that it means anything. :shrug:

Macfanforever 03-09-2016 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1179279)
Yeah she then went on to refuse to participate in a new album following that tour.


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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1179293)
I wonder why. You would think having Christine gone it would bring a more B/N flavor back to the fold. According to Mick's book, it was just the opposite.

OK, it started then.

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Originally Posted by DauphineMarie (Post 1179297)
I don't think Stevie wants FM to be over, because in her mind it signifies the end. She is very much a sentimental woman, and I think her apprehension is more of her subconscious not wanting to admit surrender to time/old-age. Notice in all her interviews from years ago, she always mentions herself being old, still doing this when she's old, etc. It shows a preoccupation with with the concept aging.

There would be no logical reason for her to "refuse" working with the album, because its not like she's competing for album sales, hates Lindsey too much, or is too busy with other things. She made 24KG work by releasing it MIDWAY through a FM tour (!!!) and still hasn't toured behind it, so obviously if she had plans of her own she would have attempted to accomplish them by now. With Christine back, I think it gives her some fuel to keep going, but I also think she's starting to see the end of the road, and its scaring her, so she's flipping out.

That's my psychological evaluation though, not that it means anything. :shrug:

I see.Like everybody says ,Chris is back ,We think Stevie would jump right in on it.


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