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tuigirl 09-21-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 843213)
They just need to follow this formula:

1. Stevie, write 6 songs about Lindsey that are constructed around private, mystical metaphors.

2. Lindsey, write 6 songs about Stevie spiked by sexual innuendo, double entendre, puns, and grunts/groans.

3. Alternate between tracks that are rockin' and tracks that are (very) pretty.

4. Title it: Rumours II.

That would be bliss.

OMG, I think you've got it, this would be perfect :] and to add, sit down and watch 52 Slowride videos of Adam and Allison on the 2009 Idol tour and see how to change it up every night for 50 nights.brilliant

~GoldDustWoman~ 09-21-2009 05:10 PM

Wow I never knew that this thread was going to be so popular!

CADreaming 09-21-2009 05:27 PM

You picked a good title.

David 09-21-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ~GoldDustWoman~ (Post 843238)
Wow I never knew that this thread was going to be so popular!

You're my favorite ledgie of all time -- & that's no mean feat.
I find that I relate best to you & your thought processes.

jbrownsjr 09-21-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 843242)
You're my favorite ledgie of all time -- & that's no mean feat.
I find that I relate best to you & your thought processes.

Tell me Lies tell me sweet little lies....

jbrownsjr 09-21-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 843195)
The average person who pays ~$150 to see Fleetwood Mac in 2009 doesn't want to see them do anything other than the hits. Its not like Bruce Springsteen, where the fan base actually clamors to hear songs rarely performed.

This is the conundrum. If FM started a tour and they mixed things up every night for a handful of songs for the first couple shows, word would get out, and it wouldn't be good. 13,000 people- only 1,500 are going to even recognize (however vaguely), say, "Straight Back". Not worth it.

So that's why Steve Winwood tours 3000 seat arenas... But his shows are sooooo damn good!!!

Nikolaj 09-21-2009 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by LukeA
The average person who pays ~$150 to see Fleetwood Mac in 2009 doesn't want to see them do anything other than the hits. Its not like Bruce Springsteen, where the fan base actually clamors to hear songs rarely performed.

This is the conundrum. If FM started a tour and they mixed things up every night for a handful of songs for the first couple shows, word would get out, and it wouldn't be good. 13,000 people- only 1,500 are going to even recognize (however vaguely), say, "Straight Back". Not worth it.
Then vivfox agreed:
So very sad but so very true.

Sorry guys, but I totally disagree. The concert stage was not besieged by angry mobs nor was there a massive exodus to the restrooms by audiences on the last 2 tours when 'Beautiful Child', 'I Know I'm Not Wrong', 'Eyes of the World' or 'Storms' were given a place in the set. 3 of these songs were not from a #1 album, while 'Straight Back' was from a #1 album, it's a known song, potentially, by anyone who had the album. I never wrote 'don't play the hits', I meant there's more than enough material for the band to play along with the hits, as they have been doing, but not to the extent that I feel would make for a better concert. 'Gypsy' is a disaster and needs to go, that's one hit that Stevie sounds embarassingly inept performing live now, and 'Straight Back' would have to be a huge improvement.
With 'Tango' being so huge a cd in Europe, they'd be wise to play the title track, and near the start of the show, to show they can be more adventurous and give their fans more than the very same songs, as always, from the first notes played, for much of the concert; and/or SevenWonders, its not like I'm suggesting they do something obscure like 'Mick the Screecher' :)
I also don't agree with the position expressed (and also by Stevie) that 'the average person' attends their concerts. I think their audience vastly are repeat customers and is the audience they've held onto for 30+years (or from the start of Stevie's solo career circa 1982). It's only right to represent more of their songwriting catalogue than the band has been willing to attempt, thus far. An 'average fan' doesn't shell out several hundreds of dollars for 1 or 2 seats to see a band they don't care much about. I'm a 'casual' fan of some bands like Heart, and would go see Heart for a reasonable ticket price of under $75 or so, but passed on their double-bill with Journey for $140 that played here in CT this month.
People could handle one or 2 new songs, most of the hits, and a rotation of album cuts, like 'Thrown Down' or a mashup of 'Big Love' with 'Everybody Finds Out'. It might take editing of the teleprompter between the 'Go To Tent' messages the band relies on, but it could be done. One writer here who pointed out the lack of any spontaneous moment in the 'Unleashed' set hit the nail right on the head.
Underestimating an audiences attention span is a good way to maintain some lazy performing habits.
I do see your points, just don't agree in this case, cheers, regardless :)
(and 'Roseanne' and 'Frazier' and 'Friends')

CADreaming 09-21-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikolaj (Post 843257)
Underestimating an audiences attention span is a good way to maintain some lazy performing habits.

:lol::lol: Good point!

Nikolaj 09-21-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 843242)
You're my favorite ledgie of all time -- & that's no mean feat.
I find that I relate best to you & your thought processes.

Not to take away from GoldDustWoman, but I suspect you actually mean GldDstWmn, without the vowels, who has had an amazing presence in her writings here for years.
Whichever, may they both 'rock on' here on The Ledge for years :)

mylittledemon 09-21-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 843213)
4. Title it: Rumours II.

:lol:

Yeah sure. Exit Buckingham for the 2nd time.

BombaySapphire3 09-21-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikolaj (Post 843260)
Not to take away from GoldDustWoman, wonderful in her own right, but I suspect you actually mean GldDstWmn, without the vowels, who has had an amazing presence in her writings here for years.
Whichever, may they both 'rock on' here on The Ledge for years :)

He may be getting up there but I think he can still discern the difference between the 2 aforementioned posters.:laugh:

nailatixela 09-21-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 843263)
:lol:

Yeah sure. Exit Buckingham for the 2nd time.

They can name it Tusk two just to make him happy.

gldstwmn 09-21-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Moon (Post 843120)
I think of other songs that were written in this time period - "Love Is", "Have No Heart" etc. - and whether or not they were written for "Trouble in Shangri-La" is permitting, but why oh why did Fleetwood Mac choose to use "Sweet Girl"? I generally adore Stevie's songs, but no matter how much I try to listen to this my hand is itching for the skip button.

The demo is great. The Dance version reminds me of the Allman Brothers. :shrug:

gldstwmn 09-21-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 843134)
Many people say that Friend sounds just like FM. I never thought it myself, but a lot of people do. Michele

It would have sounded better with FM. :sorry:

gldstwmn 09-21-2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 843146)
I think you get your crescendo in the chorus...

I chose to dance across the stages of the world.........
Every said I'd never learn....
But IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII still hear your words....
I've waited all my life for you!!...

Or
I want to fly across the world
In a golden ball
Many of the cities
Well I never saw at all
Sometimes I think I was always on call
Sometimes even I am allowed to fall
He said come down here for a minute
Sweet girl


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