"Fire Jonathan Todd" shirts

[Josh2003]

I mentioned this in another thread, but I thought I'd start a new one just so more people will see it.

I think I'm going to make a shirt for the concert next week that says "Fire Jonathan Todd". Just a plain white t-shirt, written in black Sharpie. If anyone else wants to do this, it might raise some eyebrows.

Sure, Fleetwood Mac themselves may never see the shirts...but a lot of times people in from the band's camp walk around before the show (we met Chris Nicks at a TISL show when he was just walking around beforehand), so hopefully they might take notice. Signs usually aren't permitted in concerts anymore, so this might be the next best "method of protest".

Let's just hope they don't run these concerts like they run that message board...or we'll all get thrown out for voicing our opinions :laugh:

[DownOnRodeo]

Sounds like a good idea.. but be warned.... If Todd notices that the shirts are becoming popular, it probably won't be long before he'll be selling them (for $39.95) for Shirt Club members. :rolleyes:

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Sounds like a good idea.. but be warned.... If Todd notices that the shirts are becoming popular, it probably won't be long before he'll be selling them (for $39.95) for Shirt Club members. :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

[AliP]

Actually I'm seriously contemplating making a couple of signs and bringing them to the shows to hold up. Maybe one that says that. Then they will surely see it. I don't want to say things too rude tho lest I offend Lindsey or Stevie. I don't care about offending Mick.

[FiercestCalmSea]

that is so weird..last night i was thinking how cool it would be to make stickers that say "Jonathan Todd sucks" and stick them all over,lol..especially anywhere near where the band could see them,lol...

[gypsysara]

You'd better TM or C that before he does, LOL!

[BlueGrass]

I'll do it.

[seeknpeace]

Sorry to bombard you guys with this info, but, I want to be sure that anyone who is inclined to have their voices heard, has what they need to do so..:

Internet Fraud, if you lost money:

www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

CA Attorney Gen:

www.caag.state.ca.us/cons...ilform.htm

This is the Knights info that you will need to complete the forms:

CO. DIRECTOR: JONATHAN TODD
CO: SABRE MARK INC., FLEETWOOD MAC FAN CLUB
CO. ADDRESS: 5737 KANAN RD. SUITE 237
CO. CITY; AGOURA HILLS
CO. STATE: CA
CO. ZIP: 91301
CO. PHONE: 818-865-9993

Warner Bros. Email:

[email protected]

ABC 20/20:

abcnews.go.com/sections/2..._form.html

Along with filing an internet fraud claim, file a report with the Better Business Bureau:

www.bbb.org

Individual Band Member Managers:

Lindsey Buckingham -
Tony Dimitriades, East End Management Company,
12441 Ventura Ct.
Studio City, CA 91604-2417
818.985.5060
818.985.5069 fax

Mick Fleetwood - Carl Stubner , President of Immortal Records Music Division and the Artist Manager speaking on behalf of Fleetwood Mac , 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604

John McVie - Carl Stubner Deluxe President Immortal Records Music Div, 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604

Stevie Nicks -

HK Management
Howard Kaufman
Sheryl Louis
9200 Sunset Blvd. Ste 530
LA, CA 90069
310.550.5250
310.550.5241 fax

(Thanks to Pip and Dissension for Stevies mgt info)

Write to Lindseys FOR SURE.

[dissention]

Hey seeknpeace,

Here's Stevies management addy and thir phne numbers. Good luck somebody; Sheryl Louis gave me the run around and I STILL hae yet to speak with her a second time. :rolleyes:

HK Management
Howard Kaufman
Sheryl Louis
9200 Sunset Blvd, Suite 530
Los Angeles, CA 90069

310.550.5250 (Phone)
310.550.5241 (Fax)

[Josh2003]

A little OT, but dissention...I love your first quote in your signature. I love when Doug tells them what's up.


And it looks like the T-shirt plan is a go!

[dissention]

Originally posted by Josh2003
A little OT, but dissention...I love your first quote in your signature. I love when Doug tells them what's up.


And it looks like the T-shirt plan is a go!

LOL! I know; he's a riot! Best designer, too. I've GOT to get more Doug-isms. LOL

"I don't damage things of quality; I only damage things that are crappy." :laugh:

"I can't continue to educate people on what good taste is!" Ain't that the truth, Dougy. :laugh: :laugh:

[glitter_fades]

I wrote to HK Management ages ago and never heard a thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tipped off the culprit in question. That's probably why I got an email from the fan club with a refund offer. Did anyone else get a refund offer from them in writing like I did? I guess I'm supposed to take my refund and go away now.

[seeknpeace]

Ok, to reiterate some of the other suggestions for tshirts to wear to concerts that you guys came up with, and a few of my own, look at these:

"I Paid $60. To Your Fan Club & Got Screwed"
"Say You Will Respect Your Fans"
"The Fleetwood Mac Fan Club Robbed Me"
"Fleetwood Mac Has No Loyalty To It's Fans"
"Say You Will Fire Jonathan Todd"
"Fleetwood Mac Fleeces Fans"

Just a few, any others that you guys may want to create? And, I like the plain:

"FIRE JONATHAN TODD":laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Josh2003]

I'll be making my shirt this weekend. I'll try to post a pic if I can.

I like "SAY YOU WILL FIRE JONATHAN TODD"...I might borrow that one ;)

[Livia]

I like that one, too! Josh, which show(s) are you going to?

[bigmac]

I would wear a Jonathan Todd Sucks shirt but I doubt the band could see me in my best 20% of the house seats. I wonder if folks in OKC would think I was nuts if i picketed the bands entrance at Ford Arena. I could make a big sign and wait for them to arrive.

[estranged4life]

Originally posted by bigmac
I would wear a Jonathan Todd Sucks shirt but I doubt the band could see me in my best 20% of the house seats. I wonder if folks in OKC would think I was nuts if i picketed the bands entrance at Ford Arena. I could make a big sign and wait for them to arrive.

noone would think you were crazy or nuts...Matter-of-fact the local TV news stations & local radio stations will be (As usual) stationed right at the entrances of the Ford Center...And the TV news love to interview fans if you approach 'em...Maybe you could draw some attention to the problems...Brian J.

[Josh2003]

Originally posted by Livia
I like that one, too! Josh, which show(s) are you going to?

I'll be at the Cleveland show...ahh only six more days!!

[Josh2003]

Originally posted by bigmac
I would wear a Jonathan Todd Sucks shirt but I doubt the band could see me in my best 20% of the house seats. I wonder if folks in OKC would think I was nuts if i picketed the bands entrance at Ford Arena. I could make a big sign and wait for them to arrive.

Sure, the band might probably won't see it, but if you walk around beforehand someone from within the band's camp might notice it. I met Chris Nicks this way two years ago, and I know a lot of people have met members of Stevie's band, who are just out walking around before the show.

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by seeknpeace
Sorry to bombard you guys with this info, but, I want to be sure that anyone who is inclined to have their voices heard, has what they need to do so..:

Internet Fraud, if you lost money:

www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

CA Attorney Gen:

www.caag.state.ca.us/cons...ilform.htm

This is the Knights info that you will need to complete the forms:

CO. DIRECTOR: JONATHAN TODD
CO: SABRE MARK INC., FLEETWOOD MAC FAN CLUB
CO. ADDRESS: 5737 KANAN RD. SUITE 237
CO. CITY; AGOURA HILLS
CO. STATE: CA
CO. ZIP: 91301
CO. PHONE: 818-865-9993

Warner Bros. Email:

[email protected]

ABC 20/20:

abcnews.go.com/sections/2..._form.html

Along with filing an internet fraud claim, file a report with the Better Business Bureau:

www.bbb.org

Individual Band Member Managers:

Lindsey Buckingham -
Tony Dimitriades, East End Management Company,
12441 Ventura Ct.
Studio City, CA 91604-2417
818.985.5060
818.985.5069 fax

Mick Fleetwood - Carl Stubner , President of Immortal Records Music Division and the Artist Manager speaking on behalf of Fleetwood Mac , 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604

John McVie - Carl Stubner Deluxe President Immortal Records Music Div, 12750 Ventura Blvd #202, Studio City, CA 91604

Stevie Nicks -

HK Management
Howard Kaufman
Sheryl Louis
9200 Sunset Blvd. Ste 530
LA, CA 90069
310.550.5250
310.550.5241 fax

(Thanks to Pip and Dissension for Stevies mgt info)

Write to Lindseys FOR SURE.

Sonia, this is the thread and info I mentioned. I'll try to bump it back to the top, or copy it into the other thread incase other people want to do something, like you.

[ERigby818]

It's white and says "FIRE JOHNATHAN TODD" in big black letters and a friend of a friend of mine made it for me (he works in one of those shops where they print on t-shirts). Anyway, I'm having my brother wear it to tonight's concert in Worcester (I'll post photos). I want to get this thing as much exposure as possible so here's my deal...
You want it? It's yours (free, of course)! But you must promise me the following:
1. That you or someone you know will wear it to an upcoming FM SYW concert (I would love to see a pic, I'd really get a kick out of it)
2. That you will wash it (in cold water :D) and send it ASAP to another fan, preferably a Ledgie, who will wear it at an upcomig FM SYW concert, providing he/she agrees to these two conditions and passes it on to the next person!

This way the t-shirt gets exposure and I will feel I have done a good deed. If you are interested, PM me!
:D
-Sonia

[gypsysara]

Ill take it to the Orange County, CA shows. I may go to the LA shows, but Id be happy to "hand it off" to the next person. Im also going to Phoenix.

You may want to find someone with good seats though... I dont have great seats where the band would be able to see me.

[bigmac]

I'll be at the bands entrance to Ford Arena with a sign that says "I'm a Member of Jonathan Toad's Fleecewood Mac Fan Club" and my wifes sign will say "Fire Jonathan".

I think holding signs at the band entrance will be more noticable. Get as many people as you can to join you.

[tamaraluvsFM]

Originally posted by Josh2003
I think I'm going to make a shirt for the concert next week that says "Fire Jonathan Todd". Just a plain white t-shirt, written in black Sharpie. If anyone else wants to do this, it might raise some eyebrows.


I am seriously thinking of doing this...my second concert is this saturday in Nashville and I just might be going to the local tee-shirt store and getting a white shirt and printable ink. I am in the 5th row and I dont think they will be able to see it from the stage..well unless I take it off and throw it up onstage..NOT :laugh: ..but I usually get to concerts early and I know I can walk around and expose my shirt to whoever might be walking around. Hum...
Great idea! Anyone else going to the Nashville show besides myself and Livia?

Tamara :wavey:

[OK-LANDSLIDE]

Sounds like a great idea to me on the fire Jonathan Todd shirts. I don't know if you guys have already seen this link on MSNBC:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/900077.asp?0dm=B18MB

Check out what MR. Todd has to say about his fan club lies........more lies of course!! OK-LANDSLIDE

[OK-LANDSLIDE]

I am on the front row at Ford Center July 1st and you better believe if we don't have a shirt my daughter already has a sign made to hold up to band. FIRE TODD FIRE TODD and below it says TODAY!!! OK-LANDSLIDE

[seeknpeace]

MORE FAN CLUB LIES

Yep...I just wish that the msnbc article had of been more of an expose, but, that is coming...I feel it in the air.

[Josh2003]

I definitely think you all should wear shirts, too. I noticed a LOT of people reading mine in Cleveland. Chris Nicks even walked right past us. I don't know whether he saw the shirt or not, and by the time the idea hit me to go out of my way to show it to him, he was already past.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by Josh2003
I mentioned this in another thread, but I thought I'd start a new one just so more people will see it.

I think I'm going to make a shirt for the concert next week that says "Fire Jonathan Todd". Just a plain white t-shirt, written in black Sharpie. If anyone else wants to do this, it might raise some eyebrows.

Sure, Fleetwood Mac themselves may never see the shirts...but a lot of times people in from the band's camp walk around before the show (we met Chris Nicks at a TISL show when he was just walking around beforehand), so hopefully they might take notice. Signs usually aren't permitted in concerts anymore, so this might be the next best "method of protest".

Let's just hope they don't run these concerts like they run that message board...or we'll all get thrown out for voicing our opinions :laugh:

Or how about FREE THE FAN CLUB just like the FREE WYNONA shirts that were so popular a while back?:laugh:

[OK-LANDSLIDE]

I LOVE THAT IDEA THE BEST!!!!!;) ;)


FREE FAN CLUB OF JT!!! I love it!! Something along those line that can fit on front or back of shirt!! What do you all think??

OK-LANDSLIDE :wavey:

[seeknpeace]

Or, how about,

Save the Fanclub, Fired JT

[ERigby818]

I had an interesting experience with the t-shirt and the concert...you can read about it in my review, but I should warn you it's a spolier :D:
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=97223
-Sonia

[wetcamelfood]

Originally said by Sonia: I went with my 18-year old brother (a huge Lindsey fan) who wore a FIRE JONATHAN TODD t-shirt. Lots of people looked at him and smiled, and a few actually gave a thumbs up or were like "Yeah, right on!" That was awesome. But here's the weird part (Get ready for this!). As the band is leaving the stage after the first encore, my brother runs down the aisle toward the stage (we were on the side) to get a closer look at them as they exit and he is promptly stopped by one of their staffers. The man lets my brother get a little closer to get a glimpse, but says that's it unless he has a pass. The man looks at the t-shirt and smiles and says "You know, Jonathan Todd really isn't that bad a guy. I've been working with this band for years (he claimed to be some sort of "manager") and I know, he's really not bad. He really cares about the music," something to that effect. My brother looks at the guy and says, "Well, a lot of people think he really did some wrong things to a lot of the fans." And the guy says, "It's not his fault" though he didn't say exactly what "it" was. My brother tells him politely, "We'll see," and that was that.
Interesting, EH?
Now this guy might not be anyone, and may have just been pulling my brother's leg about who he was, etc.
But if he IS who he SAYS he is (some type of "manager" for the band) than this would be a pretty good indication they have a clue as to the fact that many people are pissed at JT! My brother did manage to get close enough to the stage that any of the band members would have seen the shirt if they looked in his direction.

Did that guy honestly think after he said he "he's not a bad guy & it's not his fault" speech you guys were gonna just go "Oh, JT is a nice guy? Oh well, in that case..." He's probably hoping it'll die down if he gets to "all the gullible fans" but hopefully he'll continue to see many of those shirts throughout the tour so he'll know "it" isn't "just gonna go away", without a fight anyways. :)

John

[ERigby818]

Originally posted by wetcamelfood


Did that guy honestly think after he said he "he's not a bad guy & it's not his fault" speech you guys were gonna just go "Oh, JT is a nice guy? Oh well, in that case..." He's probably hoping it'll die down if he gets to "all the gullible fans" but hopefully he'll continue to see many of those shirts throughout the tour so he'll know "it" isn't "just gonna go away", without a fight anyways. :)

John
I doubt this guy thought he'd change anyone's mind. His tone was very polite and pleasant, not accusatory or defensive. He didn't seem like he was trying to convince anyone of anything. And he didn't seem shocked at seeing the t-shirt, either. But those are just our observations, and like I said, this guy could be a totally inconsequential nobody and have been playing a prank for all we know. I tend to be a bit skeptical, so I don't want to assume anything this man said is or isn't true.
:)

-Sonia