Bonus CD/"Not Make Believe": Worth it?

[MacFan03]

I'm hearing a lot of talk about the song "Not Make Believe." Is it worth picking up the limited edition to have this song? Some are saying it should have been included on the album.

Interested in hearing a response and overall views of the quality of the bonus disc/limited edition pressing.

Thanks.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by MacFan03
I'm hearing a lot of talk about the song "Not Make Believe." Is it worth picking up the limited edition to have this song? Some are saying it should have been included on the album.

Interested in hearing a response and overall views of the quality of the bonus disc/limited edition pressing.

Thanks.

I think so because although I am not crazy for Not Make Believe - I like LB's cover of Dylan's song and the live version of Say You Will.

[dissention]

It's worth buying the limited edition for the packaging, the poster, and the Dylan cover. I most certainly wouldn't buy it for Not Make Believe. It's quite possibly the worst song I've ever heard. "I Like Big Butts" is a better song, IMO. It sounds like it isn't even finished, like they knocked it out in demo form. Plus, the lyrics are AWFUL. But it has okay vocals.

[SeventhWonder]

Originally posted by dissention
I most certainly wouldn't buy it for Not Make Believe. It's quite possibly the worst song I've ever heard. "I Like Big Butts" is a better song, IMO. It sounds like it isn't even finished, like they knocked it out in demo form. Plus, the lyrics are AWFUL. But it has okay vocals.

LMAO!!!

Interesting point of view there, I happened to like Not Make Believe and it sounds finished to me:laugh: Some of the lyrics are so-so, but I think overall it is a good song.
The live versions of Peacekeeper and Say you will are nice to have plus the packaging is very nice so I would say that yes, it is worth it if you have a few extra bucks to spare. However, the poster is crap...

Dan

[estranged4life]

wished it just had more to the packaging is all...Still recommended IMO, Brian J.

[gldstwmn]

Mine arrived from amazon.com missing the bonus disc! So when I get the new one, I'll let you know.

[darklinensuit]

I didn't care for it much when I first heard it (too contemporary sounding), though thevocals are great. I got the urge to listen to it again a couple of times in the car today. I like the chorus. It's one of those songs like "Straight Back" that sound a little off on 1st hearing, but it stays in your mind & grows on you until you can appreciate its funkiness.
Like I said, the magic is in the vcals, not the lyrics.

- Jake

[diamondsnake]

I love Not Make Believe! But I can not believe that people like the packaging on the SYW limited edition. I hated it! I spilt a drop of water on it and the entire thing turned into this wet cardboard mess, so I went out and got the regular version. Then I just put the album artowrk in a 2 cd case and viola!

But about Not Make Believe, I think you either love it or you hate it. My mom, and she never says anything about my music, said "I've got to tell you- I really don't care for this song!" I was like :sorry:

[wondergirl9847]

Originally posted by dissention
"I Like Big Butts" is a better song, IMO.

Baby Got Back!! I frickin LOVE that song!! LMAO!!

"you can do side bends or situps, but please don't lose that butt..."

:lol:

[dissention]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
Baby Got Back!! I frickin LOVE that song!! LMAO!!

"you can do side bends or situps, but please don't lose that butt..."

:lol:

:]

I know, that song rocks. :laugh:

Not Make Believe on the other hand? Uggggggggggh. The sounds of a public restroom are more pleasing to these ears. :laugh:

C'mon, Joe, bring it on! ;) :laugh:

[chiliD]

I would've rather have heard "Not Make Believe" on the Say You Will album itself...in place of "Silver Girl", that's for SURE!! :nod:


Plus, I think they just should've released the original 2-disc Say You Will as it was initially intended, instead of only a 4 bonus song thing...a waste of a second disc, I think.

But, anyway, it all comes down to if you think the risk of liking "Not Make Believe" & "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" are worth the extra $10...I don't count the two extra versions of "Peacekeeper" & "Say You Will" as "bonus tracks"...just seems redundant to me.

[dissention]

Originally posted by chiliD
I would've rather have heard "Not Make Believe" on the Say You Will album itself...in place of "Silver Girl", that's for SURE!! :nod:


Plus, I think they just should've released the original 2-disc Say You Will as it was initially intended, instead of only a 4 bonus song thing...a waste of a second disc, I think.

But, anyway, it all comes down to if you think the risk of liking "Not Make Believe" & "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" are worth the extra $10...I don't count the two extra versions of "Peacekeeper" & "Say You Will" as "bonus tracks"...just seems redundant to me.

Agreed on all points, except for Silver Girl. :laugh:

It's grown on me...like a fungus.

[stevierocks87]

I for one would not recommend shelling out the extra money for the bonus disc. The packaging seems nice at first but it is really VERY cheap. I hardly ever listen to the bonus discs....the live versions are bland, and I really don't like the two bonus tracks. I agree with ChiliD....A waste of a bonus disc, and NOT worth the money!

:wavey: adam :wavey:

[snwriter]

I think the packaging is pretty poor, considering you're supposed to get something more with a limited edition and all you get is a brown wrapper-type thing and a poster with very small uninteresting clips of the band in the recording studio. I like the regular cover (which is inside the limited edition) better.

As far as the songs, the live covers are uninspiring, but Lindsey doing Dylan is definitely worth owning. "Not Make Believe" is not great, not even as good as "Silver Girl" (which except for a few silly lyrics, I can't fathom why so many posters on e-boards hate). But "NMB" is definitely not as bad as dissention says (rest room noises!!) This is NOT to start a fight, but to dissention: I wonder why you use a photo of Stevie in your posts when you seem to strongly dislike a lot of her songs. Just wondering, why not use a Lindsey photo or something else?

[MacMan]

This is NOT to start a fight, but to dissention: I wonder why you use a photo of Stevie in your posts when you seem to strongly dislike a lot of her songs. Just wondering, why not use a Lindsey photo or something else?

:nod:

[dissention]

Originally posted by snwriter
This is NOT to start a fight, but to dissention: I wonder why you use a photo of Stevie in your posts when you seem to strongly dislike a lot of her songs. Just wondering, why not use a Lindsey photo or something else?

Besides for some select songs and two albums, I love Stevie, that's why.

[dissention]

Originally posted by MacMan
:nod:

Such a wonderful contributor to this forum. Kudos to you!

[DownOnRodeo]

Not Make Believe is excellent.

Dissention has come to realise that over time but cannot acknoweldge defeat. :laugh: Don't worry - we know you love it. :D

[dissention]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Not Make Believe is excellent.

Dissention has come to realise that over time but cannot acknoweldge defeat. :laugh: Don't worry - we know you love it. :D

:laugh:

Alright, I'll admit that when I play the bonus disc, I don't always skip it...but that's all I'm admitting to, dammit!

:wavey:

[paleshadow]

I think the limited eddition is worth having from a collectors point of view, but it was dissapointing. I thought the packaging was terrible. The cover of the regular version is so much nicer. It was also very poorly constructed. The first time I opened the booklet the binding started to come apart. They didn't even include any different inserts from the regular cd release. The bonus disc graphics stink. It would have been nice if it was a picture disc or something. As far as the material on the bonus disc, I actually could have done without the live versions of Peacekeeper and Say you Will in place of other unreleased things. I do really enjoy Love minus zero. I never really cared for the demo of Not Make Believe, and although not much has been changed, the vocals are much better. I would have much rather had All the Beautiful Worlds released. Wasn't that rumored to have been recorded for this album?

Doug

[goldie]

I think it's worth it for Lindsey's cover of the Dylan song and for Not Make Believe. I am one of those who thinks NMB should have replaced Silver Girl... NMB has good vocals (lacking in lyrics, however) and good guitar work, IMHO.

[golden braid]

I agree that the limited edition packaging sucks. Mine is starting to fall apart. I also really like the cover of the regular cd and I wish they had put that on the cover of the limited edition also. As for the material on the cd, I like Love Minus Zero and Not Make Believe gets a little better each time I hear it. But the AOL sessions of Peacekeeper and Say You Will are a waste. I wish they had put a few other new songs on there instead to make the bonus cd more worth it. Hopefully they are saving their new songs for a new cd.

[Ghosty]

I love Not Make Believe. And the Lindsey cover tune. Both are excellent, I think. I like the lyrics to Not Make Believe - makes me think about Stevie singing about Fleetwood Mac. "...then there are the things, that cast the doubt away, the things that made me stay for so long...." It's simple, but I love, don't know why.

The poster - that fold out thing with all the itty-bitty worthless pics of the band in the studio? Is that what the "poster" is? I think that was a waste. I would have rather had one larger pic of each one of them so we could atleast see it. That seemed a waste of paper, waste of expense. Why bother. This is when I miss albums, because you;d get a bigger pic on the front and back cover, and posters were folded less, and usually were better. Or even the inserts were usually better. Oh well....Progress....

[jwd]

Aside from thinking "Not Make Believe" is a good song, and Lindsey's cover of "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" is superb, the cd is a LIMITED EDITION. You've got to get it if you're an avid Fleetwood Mac fan. :)


Joe

[Cammie]

:wavey:My dearest friend :) bought me...The Limited
Edition SYW and I was soooo excited! A Poster!!!:]
My excitement faded as the stupid poster was all
folded up with tiny pix like ones off the Fan Club
Video in the studio!:mad: Bonus multi-media...NOT!
The center-fold pix we got long ago! Great of :cool: !
The Jewel case SYW is all one needs!LB's AHI tune
Love Minus Zero / a Dylan cover has been in our
possession for a year!Seems we agree with Chilli!
Redundant! Better LOVE IT...Costs $24.99+:eek:Sky;)