IMPORTANT!! Regarding ISP Banning!

[dissention]

According to the stupendous folks over on Mick's board:

"Please note that with each post, your IP address is recorded, in the event that you need to be banned from Mick's Chat or your ISP contacted. This will only happen in the event of a major violation of this agreement."

Well, throw me on the floor and make me write a bad check! Now, because of this BS, people's computers are getting screwed up and they're having to get them fixed. This, in turn, costs money. This must be stopped, folks. Get out your torches and pitch-forks.

Dontcha just love how they added in that "amendment" after people wised up to their extortion scams?

[BuGgZi]

i agree

[Cour]

They need to make up their minds about what causes you to be banned in the first place. I have copied about 6 different versions of their position on why someone is banned and the one thing that is clear is, they are the ones who are violating their own rules every single day.

Let them TRY to start contacting ISP's. It will only add to the laundry list of material they will have to answer for.

MANY MANY people saved ALL of their posts and have PROOF that they did NOT violate any of the site's agreements or rules. They THINK that by trying to erase all of the posts and proof of their own dirty deeds over there that they have nothing to worry about and can keep running that site like NAZI SS officers. The TRUTH always comes out and thanks to computers, nothing is ever gone or forgotten.


There is an abundance of proof that they have changed their own agreements for the fanclub and the site at will, without notification and without making any notation of the changes. They've added and changed a lot of things since 90% of the fan community got wise to what they were about and the way they operate. Unfortunately for them, many people kept records.

[BuGgZi]

we shuld hand out flyers at all the concerts tellin people how horrible micks bored is...im shure one of the will get to the band then they can do something about it...lol...just a thought

[gldstwmn]

Tenacious d- (dissention) this is just one more thing for you to ask Sheryl Louis about tomorrow.

[seeknpeace]

we shuld hand out flyers at all the concerts tellin people how horrible micks bored is

Now Franki for all the things that you change the spelling on, this one I really like. Mick's Bored. That is a gem. Thank you...I will be using that one a lot in the future..hahaha...Jan:wavey: :laugh:

[dissention]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Tenacious d- (dissention) this is just one more thing for you to ask Sheryl Louis about tomorrow.

True that!

Does anyone, by any chance, have the post saved where Knight tells senior members to slap the dissenters? I'd love to read her that one! Post any posts from the admins. over there that are really bad; I'll read 'em to her. I hope Trinity and Knight are reading these posts. Guess what boys, the jig is up!! Start packing your bags.

Franki, I might just pass out some flyers! I'm not standing for this **** and I'm going to let everyone know.

[Josh2003]

I think we should all wear homemade shirts with a slogan on them, something like "DOWN WITH THE KNIGHT" or something along those lines...it would definitely spark curiousity, and someone from the band's camp might take notice if many people go along with it.

[seeknpeace]

I might just pass out some flyers! I'm not standing for this **** and I'm going to let everyone know.

Why, hell yeah. You GO. And, ANYONE out there who can provide a way to prove that these computer issues and problems have come to several of us as a result of banning our ips, I really am interested in pursuing that, as is Glitter. If intent is shown and proven why, I believe that is a white collar crime and hello, could be the end of certain types of businesses. I lost a lot of info that "I RETRIEVED KNIGHT", so if that was the intent, we aren't totally stupid and there is some wonderful software out there and you can also hide your IP and go right back on there if you want, I just disdain them so much. I could spit on them. Keep watering your plants. (Sorry, I love that!!! love love love that.)

[seeknpeace]

I think we should all wear homemade shirts with a slogan on them, something like "DOWN WITH THE KNIGHT" or something along those lines...it would definitely spark curiousity, and someone from the band's camp might take notice if many people go along with it.

OK, great idea. We have two weeks to agree on a slogan or logo for our shirts, then we can all make our shirts. I like that idea.

[dissention]

Originally posted by seeknpeace
OK, great idea. We have two weeks to agree on a slogan or logo for our shirts, then we can all make our shirts. I like that idea.

If we do do something like this, it will have to mention specifically the fan club and Mick's board, not the Knight. As much as I would love to slander that @$$, most folks wouldn't know what we meant and I doubt any of the band's camp would know who the Knight even is.

How about...

"The Feetwood Mac fan club robbed me!"

"I paid $60 to your fan club and got screwed!"

"You guys suck at marketing!"

"Say You Will Respect Your Fans!"

"Mick Fleetwood is a money-hungry bastard!"

"You have no loyalty to your fans!"

"We bought your houses, respect us!"

"Fleetwood Mac Fleeces Fans!"

Just a few suggestions...

[SaraRhiannon]

Originally posted by dissention
True that!

Does anyone, by any chance, have the post saved where Knight tells senior members to slap the dissenters? I'd love to read her that one!


Straight outta the Knazi's mouth. We should start a thread of Knight-isms.


"I can only take it so far guys. We got an offer from a tour operator and the band seemed to feel that if the fans wanted this, they'd take time on a concert nite (just think about that level of loyalty from the artists) to meet those who cared that much that they would book a hotel and tour pack. So I understand differences of opinion and encourage open banter here. But there has to be some level of civility. Too bad the rotten apples really do spoil the barrel.

For the future - Those of you with 3 or 4 stars by your names who have experience here - slap some sense into the offenders. The goal is for this board to encourage participation!

We move on . . .

Hugs to the "Good Guys (and Gals)"

The Knight!"

[BuGgZi]

i had 3 stars and got "slapped"!!! i hate that man! he is so korny!

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by SaraRhiannon
Straight outta the Knazi's mouth. We should start a thread of Knight-isms.


"I can only take it so far guys. We got an offer from a tour operator and the band seemed to feel that if the fans wanted this, they'd take time on a concert nite (just think about that level of loyalty from the artists) to meet those who cared that much that they would book a hotel and tour pack. So I understand differences of opinion and encourage open banter here. But there has to be some level of civility. Too bad the rotten apples really do spoil the barrel.

For the future - Those of you with 3 or 4 stars by your names who have experience here - slap some sense into the offenders. The goal is for this board to encourage participation!

We move on . . .

Hugs to the "Good Guys (and Gals)"

The Knight!"

And that is exactly what happened.:(
I just reread his post and those last two sentences-completely wack. Slap people into participating. It's frightening.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by dissention
True that!

Does anyone, by any chance, have the post saved where Knight tells senior members to slap the dissenters? I'd love to read her that one! Post any posts from the admins. over there that are really bad; I'll read 'em to her. I hope Trinity and Knight are reading these posts. Guess what boys, the jig is up!! Start packing your bags.

Franki, I might just pass out some flyers! I'm not standing for this **** and I'm going to let everyone know.

They might want to also ask why their admins are using different isp addresses during the fan presale to purchase tickets and how they are able to buy tickets over the phone during a club presale. We were told tickets were not available over the phone during a club presale.

[Cour]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
They might want to also ask why their admins are using different isp addresses during the fan presale to purchase tickets and how they are able to buy tickets over the phone during a club presale. We were told tickets were not available over the phone during a club presale.


I have not read or heard about this from anyone, can you give us a little more information about this?

[gldstwmn]

It's in the Oakland Presale thread. I also sent a copy of the page to mickfraudwood.com. I'd be happy to send you a copy as well.

[Rapunzel]

Hi all

I was banned from Mick's bored a couple of days ago. I am not sure why - I did ask for an explanation but (suprise, suprise) no responce!

It was an awful place anyway!

Aine x

[wetcamelfood]

Originally posted by Rapunzel
Hi all

I was banned from Mick's bored a couple of days ago. I am not sure why - I did ask for an explanation but (suprise, suprise) no responce!

It was an awful place anyway!

Aine x

Hi Aine, I'm sorry that happened but eh, don't let it get to ya, it's more fun over here anyways! Welcome! :)

John

[Rapunzel]

Hi John! :wavey:

I completely agree! :D

love

Aine x

[dissention]

I called Sheryl Louis three times today, the firt two times there was no answer, the third time I was told that she had left the office. I guess I'll try again tomorrow, folks. Not to worry, I'm gonna be like a fly to **** with this woman! I printed out alot of Knight's posts, the **** will hit the fan!

[seeknpeace]

I called Sheryl Louis three times today, the firt two times there was no answer, the third time I was told that she had left the office. I guess I'll try again tomorrow, folks. Not to worry, I'm gonna be like a fly to **** with this woman! I printed out alot of Knight's posts, the **** will hit the fan!

Most of my evening will be spent writing to all the management individually. I am so thankful that I saved so much info and have it to reference. I wanted to do this today, but, my business was so busy. I want my letters in the mail tomorrow if possible. I hope that a lot you guys will do the same. I just don't want to feel like I met the school yard bully anymore. I want him accountable for how he made me feel.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally posted by dissention
I called Sheryl Louis three times today, the firt two times there was no answer, the third time I was told that she had left the office. I guess I'll try again tomorrow, folks. Not to worry, I'm gonna be like a fly to **** with this woman! I printed out alot of Knight's posts, the **** will hit the fan!
I hope she doesn't give you the run around. She was an extremely difficult woman to get hold of when Louise was organising the charity painting for Stevie

Pip

[Tango]

Originally posted by seeknpeace
Most of my evening will be spent writing to all the management individually. I am so thankful that I saved so much info and have it to reference. I wanted to do this today, but, my business was so busy. I want my letters in the mail tomorrow if possible. I hope that a lot you guys will do the same. I just don't want to feel like I met the school yard bully anymore. I want him accountable for how he made me feel.

PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS if you don't care about the fan club happenings or you weren't directly/unfortunately affected.

If you happened to have saved your emails, print them out and highlight some of the promised that were made. A few remarks stand out in my head from the first presale:


We're trying to be fair and give you the best choices possible!

The venue has the right to offer their season ticket holders and other VIP's advance sales. THESE DON'T AFFECT CLUB MEMBERS AS THEY CAN NOT ENTER YOUR CLUB RESERVED BLOCK OF TICKETS!

Again, our block of seats begins at the VERY FIRST ROW ON THE FLOOR IN THE BEST SECTION OF EACH HOUSE and continues through the 25-30 row in most venues. THESE ARE GOOD SEATS!!!

You will see other presales out there (some before ours). DO NOT FRET! You're safe! The other presales you see are generally VENUE sales. Some are on sale now but the general public usually can’t get tickets. The venue has the right to offer their season ticket holders and other VIP's advance sales. THESE DO NOT AFFECT CLUB MEMBERS AS THEY CANNOT ENTER YOUR CLUB RESERVED BLOCK OF TICKETS! WRONG.

Fan Club Members can buy in ADVANCE of the public sale on 3/13 & 3/14 – and we've reserved the best 20% of the floor (closest) seating in all cities for you.

Here's how the presale will work in general: You can only purchase presales via the internet. No phone orders. You'll be buying directly from Ticketmaster. The club adds no charges (YAY!) and we earn no income from your ticket purchases.

(um, didn't they already get money up front from us when we paid to join the fan club?!?!)

Didn't they make you think you were special? Then when things didn't work out, and you emailed them, you got no response? And your posts were deleted? And nothing was done to make things right? And the phone lines were jammed, and those that got through got an answering machine? Did you every pay for a service and not have it happen and not get your money back before?

I think you have lots to talk about. And I don't think there is anything wrong with letting the individual band members know about it, as it's all done in the name of Fleetwood Mac. You have the best wishes of others behind you as well. Just stay calm, because the person you are talking to did not do this to you. But I think they care about their name, and the name of the person they represent.

We happen to LOVE the person they represent, and are hoping they will care about what happened to one of their fans. YOU.

[WindingRoad]

I'm a little confused about the ISP thing.

I haven't been able to post here for quite some time. I'm not sure if this started when I joined the Knight's club or shortly before that time.

Since then, I created a new ID for this board. Even so, I can only access The Ledge from my son's computer. (He has a different ISP than my computer.)

Could this whole ISP thing be why I can't post from my computer? I hope so only because then I can stop emailing Marty trying to find out what's wrong. (I'm sure he's sick of me by now...lol)

Anyway, is this the problem? And if so, how do I fix it?

Thanks,
susieq :wavey:
(who knows nothing about computers except for the "on" button!)