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DownOnRodeo
03-06-2003, 12:15 AM
Yet another thread idea I've ripped from the good people at Stevie's forum;) :laugh:

Which song from Lindsey are you most anticipating on the new album? I'm not including 'What's the World Coming To' because we're all very curious about that one.

Did I mention... verrrry curious... :lol:

:wavey:

P.S. ... we allll know what Christy wants and what ChilliD doesn't!!

wondergirl9847
03-06-2003, 12:55 AM
Actually, I voted for Red Rover...not Come...because RR has my heart like a smidge more over Come. I'm DYING to hear what is different or the same on RR!!!!! Although Come is my SECOND pick for most anticipated!! :nod: Heck, I am curious about ALL of them, even SYHA and BTLH just to hear any differences and stuff. :)

chiliD
03-06-2003, 01:25 AM
If "Peacekeeper" was changed that much from Lindsey's own version to a Fleetwood Mac version (including the climatic lyric), despite my SEVERE loathing of the song, I'm now curious as to how "Come" WILL sound in its final form.

Surprised y'all, didn't I?

:blob2:

Johnny Stew
03-06-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by chiliD
Despite my SEVERE loathing of the song, I'm now curious as to how "Come" WILL sound in its final form.Dude, you have to pass around some smelling-salts if you're gonna make a statement like that! :eek: :laugh:



Johnny Stew

DownOnRodeo
03-06-2003, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by wondergirl9847
Actually, I voted for Red Rover...not Come...because RR has my heart like a smidge more over Come. I'm DYING to hear what is different or the same on RR!!!!! Although Come is my SECOND pick for most anticipated!! :nod: Heck, I am curious about ALL of them, even SYHA and BTLH just to hear any differences and stuff. :)
Actually no I meant you'd vote Red Rover! You've mentioned before how it's your favourite song. That's one I really can't wait to hear done in final form so I voted it too. To me it always stood out among the GOS bunch as the most innovative and engaging.:nod:

And hey Christy nice new avatar - it must have been a big decision to finally change from that old Little Lies one!

BlueGrass
03-06-2003, 11:54 AM
Red Rover - but you forgot to put the only song we haven't heard of..."What's The World Coming To." Tis is what I'm most looking forward too just because I haven't heard it.

strandinthewind
03-06-2003, 02:01 PM
Well, I was greatly anticipating Stevie's vocal on Peacekeeper and was not disappointed in my expectation.

Now that Peacekeeper is out of the way, I must say, I cannot wait to see what ole Stevie "did" ( ;) ) to "Come." I mean I always thought Come was interesting and good, if not great, from a very experimental/eclectic point of view. For example, when was the last time you heard anything quite like it? It just did not leave alot of room for extended and lush harmonies a la Peacekeeper and Thrown Down (in whatever version). So, I must vote for Come. In fact, can't you Stevie hearing it for the first time and saying something to the effect of "are you nuts - where am I coming in on that" :D :D

seteca
03-06-2003, 05:51 PM
Cuz noooooooooobody else is doin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!;) :D :]:blob1:

Gimme a 74 minute version of the song as the only track on the entire album...!!!:blob2: Answer your question???:D

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

tuigirl
03-06-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by seteca
Cuz noooooooooobody else is doin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!;) :D :]:blob1:

Gimme a 74 minute version of the song as the only track on the entire album...!!!:blob2: Answer your question???:D

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Hahhaaa...wow, thats 1/2 a concerts worth (74 mins of Linds doing that and another 74 mins of Stevie stuff!) :laugh:

ryan8472
03-06-2003, 07:48 PM
I voted for Bleed to Love Her. I'm curious to hear the studio version of it...

strandinthewind
03-06-2003, 08:21 PM
HA HA HA Seteca!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and hello)

Can't you see the concert, Stevie could just show up an hour or so into it after LB ripped through an I'm So Afraid esq. version of Come - thereby exhausting the audience before Stevie even has a chance to get a twirl in. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

wondergirl9847
03-06-2003, 08:22 PM
Lindsey singing COME for 74 minutes...

I'M SO IN!!!!!!! ;);):D

DOR, I'm sorry, the way you worded that sentence sounded like Come applied to both my choice and chilid!! LOL DUR ME!!

HA!! Yep, it took going through quite a few avatars till I settled on that one, but it's too "dirty", I need a clear version of it. I messed with the picture last night, but couldn't get it any clearer. I have made quite a few avatars...hehe. Little Lies is my fave FM video, btw.

I am in DIRE NEED of some heart medication, first this stuff about Lindsey saying he would like to do THREE (COUNT EM...THREE!!) MORE FM albums and now chilid makes that statement about COME!!!

WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO!??!!?!?! LMAO!!

Skylark
03-06-2003, 10:18 PM
:cool: WHAT IS THE WORLD... COMING... TO???
Curious about that one...but I adore Come:eek:
and Red Rover...which is a Lindsey Favorite!

Aren't any of the songs just solo LB or SN?
Must they always be singing together or is
this the new trend for The F.Mac Band!:confused:Sky;)

Gazza
03-07-2003, 02:18 PM
First post, just to say I'm waiting to hear what Come sounds like. I figure the others will sound not too different to what they would have sounded like on Gift Of Screws, except with Stevie on vocals as well... "Come" interests me, because I found it on Kazaa - one of those blank files, but it's running time was only 4:19, as opposed to the 6 minute version we've all heard. I'm hoping that if that is it's official running time, it's the verses that have been cut down as opposed to the guitar solo, which is just phenomenal.

I've read/heard Lindsey talk about how he would sacrifice his playing for the good of the band, and I just hope he hasn't sacrificed that solo.

It's a shame he's done that, because having recently seen the Mirage concert, and obviously The Dance, the guy deserves his place up there with other finger picking gods like Knopfler and Jeff Beck (Lindseys playing has far more bite than Knopflers), on those guitarist lists. I could watch him play all day.

seteca
03-07-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Gazza
First post, just to say I'm waiting to hear what Come sounds like. I figure the others will sound not too different to what they would have sounded like on Gift Of Screws, except with Stevie on vocals as well... "Come" interests me, because I found it on Kazaa - one of those blank files, but it's running time was only 4:19, as opposed to the 6 minute version we've all heard. I'm hoping that if that is it's official running time, it's the verses that have been cut down as opposed to the guitar solo, which is just phenomenal.

I've read/heard Lindsey talk about how he would sacrifice his playing for the good of the band, and I just hope he hasn't sacrificed that solo.

It's a shame he's done that, because having recently seen the Mirage concert, and obviously The Dance, the guy deserves his place up there with other finger picking gods like Knopfler and Jeff Beck (Lindseys playing has far more bite than Knopflers), on those guitarist lists. I could watch him play all day.

I totally agree with everything you've said...unfortunately, it seems that the song has been massively altered. Given that this is one of my fav. LB songs ever, and definitely my fav. from the GOS album, it won't surprise you that I've done some "number work".:D

There seems to be three possibilities:

1) On the original version, the solo starts at around 4:14. So there is a possibility that there is NO guitar solo AT ALL, and after the second chorus the song immediately ends with "think of me, sweet darlin', every time you don't come."

2) Second possibility is that the verses have been made half sized so that they are only one stanza each, instead of two. Each of these are 34 seconds long. Furthermore, the repeat of the chorus the second time round is removed, which is about 32 seconds long. That's a total of 34+34+33 seconds = 1 minute 41 seconds removed. Take that away from the original track time of 6:02 and you have a track time of 4:21....which is very close to the apparent length of the new version.

or..haha....

3) The entire song has been re-arranged and the only thing about the new one that resembles the old one are its lyrics.

:eek::eek::eek:

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

stefan
03-07-2003, 03:47 PM
Well after listening to Peacekeeper and reading the LB Acoustic guitar interview posted here yesterday, where LB said:

"When we do this again—and I hope we do, in a year or so—and we write from the ground up, I hope we do them as two-part harmony songs. "

...so regarding this it seems likely that the GOS stuff is changed to a certain extent and Stevie is contributing a big part. So I guess Come also didn`t remain the same imo. But let`s take a look at what happened to Peacekeeper: The dummy/empty files on the net were like 3:37min. And the real song still is 4:10 unless you take a fading version, which I didn't hear up to now.

And so Seteca here is Number 4) the empty files then obviously needn't to be an indicator for the real length of the tracks on the album. Stevie is on but the length is the same and the solo is still there...
We`ll see...
:wavey:

seteca
03-07-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by stefan
And so Seteca here is Number 4) the empty files then obviously needn't to be an indicator for the real length of the tracks on the album. Stevie is on but the length is the same and the solo is still there...

:blob2: :blob1::]:blob1: :blob2:

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

ERigby818
03-09-2003, 03:23 PM
I'm not really looking forward to the SYW version of it because I'm scared it won't be exactly like the GOS version :eek:! I Don't want Lindsey to change a THING and I don't think Stevie has anything to add to RR.
I feel the same way about Come, BTW...It just doesn't need Stevie vocals. The only thing it might need is a little re-mastering to get rid of the blast factor when the chorus kicks in. But THAT'S IT!

That said, I voted for Miranda. I LOVE that song and when I first heard it I thought it was begging for a Stevie harmony, but just in the chorus. So I am looking forward to hearing that one :D.
-Sonia

Skylark
03-09-2003, 10:09 PM
:mad: Let me tell you...that LOUD CRASH DRUM
hurts my ears! Iam always turning it down!!!:rolleyes:
The Blast Factor is a good discription!:eek: I really
appreciate good drums & admire Lindsey's lyrics
and his wonderful voicings of them! Miranda is
a strange tune :confused: with provocative words!!!Sky:)

BlueGrass
03-10-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by ERigby818
I'm not really looking forward to the SYW version of it because I'm scared it won't be exactly like the GOS version :eek:! I Don't want Lindsey to change a THING and I don't think Stevie has anything to add to RR.
I feel the same way about Come, BTW...It just doesn't need Stevie vocals. The only thing it might need is a little re-mastering to get rid of the blast factor when the chorus kicks in. But THAT'S IT!

That said, I voted for Miranda. I LOVE that song and when I first heard it I thought it was begging for a Stevie harmony, but just in the chorus. So I am looking forward to hearing that one :D.
-Sonia

I AGREE! I don't see how RR could become any better, and right now I hope the GOS version ends up the on it just in better quality.

Wayne2
03-14-2003, 12:02 PM
Gotta vote for Murrow.

Only because the song title kicks ass.

LindseyRocks
03-15-2003, 01:56 PM
Actually, I'd have to go with Miranda. IMO, that was one that showed so much promise on GOS, and I think it has the potential to be a production GIANT. And production is what it's all about - imagine how that will sound with Lindsey refining it and adding his "polish" to it.

david

PenguinHead
03-15-2003, 02:01 PM
Not to offend anyone...but for some reason I get frustrated when reading posts from fans making lots of assumptions and having unreasonable expectations about Fleetwood Mac's music....most recently this thread about Lindsey's solo versions of the new songs verses the Fleetwood Mac-ified versions.

As I see it, of course we want the band and their songs to be presented in the most favorable way...but we have no control over their creative process! It's just a matter of accepting what they choose to release. To say they should to this or that, seems like a brain-numbing exercise of futility!!

Perhaps it's my age, but I remember the caveman days when there was no internet. Are we so jaded now as to forget that Lindsey Buckingham's Gift of Screws song were not officially released? He didn't mean for any of us to hear them!!! As such, it doesn't seem fair to compare them with the official versions and make suggestions what they should do with them! To get upset or worried that those songs are not going to live up to an expectation...again a useless numbing of the brain.

Some think they know what is best for the songs...but really, we have no idea about what goes on in their studio sessions, what the politics are, what the intricacies of their creative process are, what kind of pressure the record company puts on them...lots of variables to consider.

I rather just respect and accept their creative process, for better or worse. (It certainly reduces stress!) If you really look at it objectively...we have the best of both worlds...we're fortunate enough, thanks to communication technology and studio thieves, to have unreleased Lindsey solo versions and the official Fleetwood Mac versions.

Would love to here comments on this perspective. Again, I know there are very sensitive members here, and I post this with the utter most respect for your opinions. Just a little harmless intellectual discourse.

LindseyRocks
03-15-2003, 04:08 PM
I totally agree PenguinHead. Ultimately, Lindsey will have his own artistic vision of what should happen with the material. And I can't believe that he would go back into the Fleetwood Mac thing if he felt he was sacrificing any aspects of that vision. But I think many of us speculate simply in anticipation of the latest offering, based on a track record of what has been done before. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. We're excited, and the bottom line is that it's fun to talk about.

good thoughts on this subject

david

ERigby818
03-15-2003, 09:51 PM
Not offended at all, PenguinHead, and your point is well taken. I appreciate your choice of words. But I can't resist pointing out that there are a lot of brain-numbing exercises of futility on these boards (I am so guilty of this :D) and speculation and fantasy like it's going out of style;).
Personally, I love to hear about (and subsequently imagine) other fans visions of songs, especially you musicians who recognize Lindsey's musical genius. To me it's fascinating to hear people pick up on the subtle and not so subtle differences in Mac and solo versions of songs and why they love and hate the changes...most recently Peacekeeper has generated a whole enourmous range of feedback.
I think it's safe to say we are all thrilled that Lindsey is very much creatively in charge of this album. Obviously, we trust his decisions. But we can do that and still question them.
We have speculated (:D) that there probably won't be major changes between GOS versions and SYW versions, and so far we haven't heard anything to suggest otherwise. I don't think keeping fingers crossed for minimal change on particular songs (or for lots of Stevie contribution to others) is creating any wild expectations.

Also, you may think I'm living in fantasy-land, but I subscribe to the theory discussed a while back that Lindsey secretly wanted his biggest fans to hear those GOS songs (which after all are not that raw and demo-ish, really they are quite polished) because we were Going Insane waiting...The theory, that he either allowed or did not stop the songs from being leaked (or at the very least, didn't mind that they were) because he knew it would make a lot of his big fans extremely happy without having a negative impact on record sales of the material (if anything having positive one cuz the songs are so darn good!). Then again, like I said, you may think I'm nuts.
-Sonia

PenguinHead
03-15-2003, 10:51 PM
Two things: Thanks LindseyRocks for responding to my rambling! I thought that maybe I was putting my head on a chopping block! If nothing else, we fans of the Mac are a passionate and opinionated bunch. And Sonia....YES, I think you're crazy! Welcome to the club! lol

wondergirl9847
03-15-2003, 11:10 PM
No offense taken!! We love to discuss stuff....and I am the FIRST to admit, I go off on tangents sometimes and Peacekeeper is the PRIME example of my "going off". LOL I LOVE the song (Lindsey's version the most, but I love the FM version too now!!)!! Even tho some people don't like to discuss speculation and expectations, this IS a discussion board, but it's just for kicks and giggles. :nod: We are like a real (i.e. SICK!! LOL) family in that we argue and discuss stuff ad nauseum!! :rolleyes::laugh:

Anyways, I love reading EVERYONE's posts, whether I agree with them or not. If we all agreed, this board would be lame.