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KathyD
02-21-2003, 12:18 AM
I was reading an interview from Guitar Player with a guy from the band The Music. They asked him "who else inspired you to play?" His response was:
This sounds cheesy, but my dad used to listen to a lot of Fleetwood Mac - the Lindsey Buckingham period. My dad loves his playing, and I grew up getting into it myself. I was quite young (laughs)......
Why do most people (not us, obviously) think it's cheesy to like FM? Lindsey's a damn good guitar player, so why does he have to qualify his comment by saying "I was quite young". hrmph :confused:
wondergirl9847
02-21-2003, 12:49 AM
I don't understand the word cheesy anyways...what YOU like is what YOU like and who gives a flying flip WHAT anyone else likes!!?? If you are ashamed to say you like a certain artist, then, you didn't really like them to begin with. :rolleyes: His dad sounds like a swell guy! :nod:
Christy,
Is "Funkytown, TX" by any chance Fort Worth? I have a couple of friends from Fort Worth that refer to it as that and was wondering if that's what everyone from there calls it! Thanks and good night.
Brad
DownOnRodeo
02-21-2003, 02:46 AM
I know what you mean KathyD. It's epidemic! Even i usually end up being apologetic about my appreciation of the Mac.
Reason? Stevie's persona and Christine's songs = both lend themselves to a sort of... shall we say, gaiety!!...whether it's retro or diva-ish or just plain 'girly'. Not that there's anything wrong with that! ;) And hey, I'm talking about x-gen popular impressions, not how it might necessarily work for you or me.
No thanks to Lindsey's humility and lack of 'celebrity ego', if I mention I like FM to someone I know, they will NEVER realise I'm talking 40% about a guitar guy called 'Lindsey Buckingham'.
X-Gen Impressions of FM? Don't Stop, Little Lies etc
In the end it's just as well I couldn't give a damn about anyone else's opinion of what music I like!
Beyond all that, maybe it's nothing more than FM as a pop band, not a rock band, and the guarded attitude people can have towards pop.
ERigby818
02-21-2003, 12:27 PM
The only time I'd ever use "cheesy" in the same sentence as Fleetwood Mac is if I'm talking about the video for Big Love.
Don't get me wrong, I think the video is cool, it was especially cool when it first came out...and I love Lindsey's sexy intensity in the vid, and I can't get enough of the the Stevie dress-waving....I'd probably like the vid even more if Lindsey weren't dancing with some scrawny brunette:rolleyes:....But GREAT as it is, the Big Love video is a bit cheesy.....IMO.
-Sonia
sodascouts
02-21-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by ERigby818
I can't get enough of the the Stevie dress-waving....
You're kidding, right? She looks ridiculous!
But then again I hate the whole video. The only cool shot is the beach. Lindsey floating through space, traveling down a conveyer belt down a hall, and the strange Sesame Street-esque interaction between him andthat funny looking brunette with fried hair are all quite...well....cheesy.
SmthngOfADreamr
02-21-2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by sodascouts
You're kidding, right? She looks ridiculous!
Especially at the end when the video reverses at high speed!!!
ERigby818
02-21-2003, 01:34 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:ROTFLMAO!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Of course it's ridiculous (LMAO I forgot about the high speed backwards part!!), but come on! It's classic!;):lol: Just look at the hairstyles in that video! Classic!:D I feel the same way about most Stevie solo vids...cheesy, but loveable!!
-Sonia
Sorcerer386
02-21-2003, 03:05 PM
Stevie's dress waving I think is great too...and I love in reverse right at the beginning of the reversal how she looks. What else is she supposed to do? Big Love is not a tambourine type of song. The main thing I laugh about in this video is Lindsey's ridiculously high hair. It's insane! I'm so glad it was a little shorter in the other two videos for TITN. I really don't find the videos as cheesy. I just think their very dreamlike -- in the surreal worlds that each member of FM lives in. Now, Everywhere, well, we won't get into that...while it IS yet another venture into an FM world, it just wasn't done well.
Getting back on track with this post, I don't know if maybe this quote would sound better in the full context of the interview. First of all, I don't know the band The Music...so what kind of music do they play? If they are this type of Nu-Metal band or something along those lines, I might see why HE would think of Fleetwood Mac as cheesy -- even though I (and I'm sure many more here) find Fleetwood Mac to be much better musically than any of these types of bands today.
Wayne2
02-21-2003, 05:02 PM
I really like the video, and Stevie's dress waving doesn't bother me. I like how she gets into it during the second "stage" shot.
The beach shot is really cool
seteca
02-21-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by wondergirl9847
If you are ashamed to say you like a certain artist, then, you didn't really like them to begin with. :rolleyes: His dad sounds like a swell guy! :nod:
I totally agree. Whenever I mention an artist or band I like to someone, I don't worry what the person will think of me...I actually get pi**ed off if they haven't heard of them!lol! And then they get worried!lol!
Yea, his dad has good taste!
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:
Grainuaile
02-21-2003, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
X-Gen Impressions of FM? Don't Stop, Little Lies etc
Totally! A few months ago I was on the computer, listening to Tango. My [24 year old] brother comes up behind me and says, "Ah, I see you're listening to AM Gold.". :rolleyes:
wondergirl9847
02-21-2003, 07:36 PM
Well, FM aren't really a video band. Little Lies is my fave FM video...the colors are beautiful and Lindsey looks GREAT in it...heck, they ALL look really sexy in the video!! Big Love bites pretty much but I agree, the beach scene is COOL!!! What is it about that beach scene? We all LOVE it!! That's a RARE thing, us all agreeing on something!! ;) LOL That chick in the video..yeah, she's NOT hot or ANYTHING, at least get Lindsey a HOT chick!! COME ON!! LOL I blame the director for that video idea. :rolleyes:
Brad, yes, I'm from Foat Wuth, Texas!! Cowtown, Funkytown...yup!
seteca, I get mad when people go "Who's she?" when I mention Lindsey!! AAAAHHH!! :mad: Lindsey is a MAN!!!!!
Grain, AM Gold!! Tango??? Good gravy...well give me "AM Gold" over today's TOP 40 CRAP ANYDAY!! :nod:
sara1998
02-22-2003, 12:24 AM
Don't stereotype all gen~X'ers. I'm a gen~X'er, and ALL I ever listen to it the Mac and Stevie. Think I don't get some strange looks???:laugh:
But I don't give a damn!;)
Maria
estranged4life
02-22-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by sara1998
Don't stereotype all gen~X'ers. I'm a gen~X'er, and ALL I ever listen to it the Mac and Stevie. Think I don't get some strange looks???:laugh:
But I don't give a damn!;)
Maria
At least <i>some </i>gen-X'ers have some taste in music...Brian J.
wondergirl9847
02-22-2003, 01:46 AM
:rolleyes: Unfortunately...LOL I wish I had been born a lil bit earlier, but oh well, whaddayagannado?
DownOnRodeo
02-22-2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by sara1998
Don't stereotype all gen~X'ers. I'm a gen~X'er, and ALL I ever listen to it the Mac and Stevie. Think I don't get some strange looks???:laugh:
But I don't give a damn!;)
Maria
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. I'm 19, and dig FM - but I'm afraid our ilk are in the minority (keep in mind Stevie's 'cult following' isn't in Australia like it is in the States).
LindseyRocks
02-23-2003, 06:34 AM
I'm 32, grew up listening to FM, and I've never heard anyone use the word "cheesy" as a even a partial description of FM.
Now, I know I'm not THAT old - hell, some would even call me young (did ya get that you old fogies? - lol - jk). And I've never felt I had to apologize for my appreciatation of the Mac to anyone. I guess many of these Gen-Xers (with the exception of Christy, Maria and other Groovies on this board) have no concept of what REAL music is all about. They have their heads up their butts waiting to develop a glass stomach so they can finish watching MTVs beach party or whatever other flavor of the month MTV decides to cater to.
Am I bitter? Nah - just having a little fun here. But I do think it's interesting to see how some people are so limited in their appreciation for true artistic genius
:distress:
of course, if everyone would just think like me, then everything would be ultra-groovy!!!:cool:
But let's face it, when it comes to music, some people are just idiots - and boy am I glad that I'm not one of those people - rofl:laugh:
david;)
ERigby818
02-23-2003, 10:34 AM
I've heard people born between 1968-1978 are "Gen X-ers" and people born between 1978-1988 are in Gen-Y. I heard that in some stupid corporate seminar I was dragged to at work :rolleyes: I forget where it came from or why that dividing line. It would be like a decade thing but people don't have like a cultural consciousness till they're at least 2....or something.Whatever.
-Sonia
KathyD
02-23-2003, 02:07 PM
hmmm... I'm a Gen X-er then (born 1968). which I guess kinda makes sense... I think I first heard that term around the time that Tabitha Soren was doing the "news" on MTV... I think I'm around her age. Anyway, I'm a proud Gen X lover of FM!
By the way, if Gen X starts in 1968, and baby boomers are 1945 - 1964, what are those poor people born in 1965-67? ;)
Originally posted by Sorcerer386
Getting back on track with this post, I don't know if maybe this quote would sound better in the full context of the interview. First of all, I don't know the band The Music...so what kind of music do they play? If they are this type of Nu-Metal band or something along those lines, I might see why HE would think of Fleetwood Mac as cheesy -- even though I (and I'm sure many more here) find Fleetwood Mac to be much better musically than any of these types of bands today.
I don't know what my husband did with the magazine, but I think one of the other influences was Rage Against the Machine. So you're probably right. I guess it wouldn't be "cool" for him to still like FM... wuss... stand up for the music you like! ;)
Skylark
02-23-2003, 02:44 PM
:wavey: ReallY Cheesey??? I Love FM/Lindsey Cheese!
Agree... they could have found Lindsey a sexier :eek:
"lover-girl." He, however looked just gorgeous to my
eyes!!! I giggled at a tv ad I just saw ...the pretty
girl has that ridiculous baggy slip on!:laugh: Yikes!;)
Re: Hawaii...Kathy D...Have you ever spied The Mac
out there frolicing or performing? Enjoy the weather
as we have 18 degrees with blowing snow!Aloha! Sky:)
KathyD
02-23-2003, 02:58 PM
Never! And I read about FM members in the entertainment section of the newspaper quite often... so-and-so was spotted at this restaurant or that show... but I never see them. I need to get out more. I don't like going to Waikiki though... too crowded. There is one restaurant that we like in Waikiki. One time, exactly a week after we had been there, Jimmy Buffett showed up and played a few songs impromptu... one week... ahh. However, it seems like FM members go to Maui more often. I really like Maui... maybe I should move there.... ;)
I've lived in Hawaii for over 10 years now and definitely don't miss the 18 degree weather! But I do miss out on a lot of concerts... artists don't perform here very often... too expensive to bring everything here, I guess.
ERigby818
02-23-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by KathyD
By the way, if Gen X starts in 1968, and baby boomers are 1945 - 1964, what are those poor people born in 1965-67? ;)
Good question! I don't know :shrug:. I just remember that I was the only Gen-Y person in the room (I was born in '79) and it was kind of embarassing :D.
-Sonia
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