Actual Tracklist & First single...Predictions?

[BlueGrass]

I think since USA Today mentioned "Bleed To Love Her" as being on the new album, I think the songs that we got will be the ones on the album.

Here is what I think would be a good running order...

01 Bleed to Love Her
02 Say You Will
03 Illume
04 Come
05 Destiny Rules
06 Everybody Finds Out
07 Miranda
08 Smile At You
09 Murrow Turning Over in His Grave
10 Peacekeeper
11 Running Through the Garden
12 Say Goodbye
13 Silver Girl
14 Steal Your Heart Away
15 Thrown Down
16 Red Rover
17 Goodbye Baby
18 What's the World Coming To


I also think "Steal Your Heart Away" will be the first single...if not either "Say You Will" or "Peacekeeper."

[Josh2003]

Although I don't think I'd be able to come up with an order, since we have no idea how some of these songs will sound compared to their demo forms, I do have to agree with what ChiliD has said..."Say Goodbye" must be the last track :cool:

[ERigby818]

Wow, I don't think I come up with a whole tracklist...but I can tell you some of the order I'd like to hear:
Miranda would make a great first track. If it's anything like the demo, the guitar really eases you in, and before you know it you're totally rocking out. The tempo is very Second Hand News-ish, and SHN is the perfect first song.
Say Goodbye would make a great last song. I want Come to be right smack dab in the middle...the climax of the album, if you will. :D

As for singles...I think Say You Will, Smile At You, Peacekeeper and maybe Red Rover will be released...but I hope Thrown Down isn't. I love the song, but I don't think it's got the oomph for single status.
:shrug:
But I guess it is a little soon to speculate there are 5 songs I (and I assume most of us) know absolutely nothing about.
-Sonia

[DownOnRodeo]

I'm just so wrapped that Murrow is on this album!!

Bluegrass I started doing a thread like this but I came to a standstill because - like Sonia says, we dont know what some of these songs are.

I vote Say You Will or Come (the latter probably not 1st single!) as single.

Wasn'tthere an article yonks ago saying Come would be the first single?????

[seteca]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Wasn'tthere an article yonks ago saying Come would be the first single?????

I don't think so.....but we can always pray!!!:)

The fact that it made the album has made my year, knowing that I will most likely see it performed live!:blob2: But having it released as a single, with a video to go along with it;), would just be icing!!!:nod:

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[nightbird28]

Although I don't think I'd be able to come up with an order, since we have no idea how some of these songs will sound compared to their demo forms, I do have to agree with what ChiliD has said..."Say Goodbye" must be the last track

I happen to agree but think that "Goodbye Baby" would make a good last song as well if it is anything like "the tower" demo.

as for singles I would like to add to the list of "Say You Will" and etc.. What about "Bleed to Love her". It was by far a great fm song and definately has enough punch to get a decent amount of airplay. Plus it has that adult contempory radio feel to it. I also think "Thrown Down" has that same appeal and think it could make a good radio single.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by nightbird28
What about "Bleed to Love her". It was by far a great fm song and definately has enough punch to get a decent amount of airplay.I'm totally rooting for "Bleed To Love Her" to be released as a single.
If not in the first wave (as they'll most likely simultaneously release one song to AC/Pop/Top 40, and one to Rock stations, to kick-off the album), then definitely in the second wave.

I was seriously bummed that it wasn't released as a single from 'The Dance,' so now they have a chance to redeem themselves.
The song has "hit" written all over it.

As for other singles... from what I've heard of "Say You Will," it's extremely catchy, so that would be a great choice.
"Thrown Down" is another great pick.
And I dig Lindsey's "Peacekeeper"... so if the finished version is comparable to his solo take, then that'd make a great single too.

The rumour has it that Warner Bros. felt at least 8 of these tracks are single material... so I guess how many of them actually get released to radio, will depend on how well the album does.



Johnny Stew

[shackin'up]

I really hope for Come as a first single. It will get a lot of attention. maybe not for big single sales but to show that FM did not sit still in the past decades. Tusk did draw a lot of attention as a first single, and was not such a typical radiofriendly song. Stevie's got her albumtitle, i hope lindseys going for a "not so careful" first single. ( so murrow or red rover would be welcomed by me, also).

[Phil]

It just occurred to me that one of the unknown tracks to be included on the new album, "Everybody Finds Out", may be known to us after all. I was assuming this to be a new Stevie song but noticed on the sararhiannon.com website that it has been credited to Lindsey. In that case, does anybody think this could be the official title for what we know as "Shuffle Riff" (aka "Hit & Run" aka "Wait For You")? The line "everybody finds out" is featured early on in this song but the correlation between it and the "new" title may be non-existent. Therefore, does anybody know either way?
If this was obvious to everyone but me then I should like to apologise for my ignorance but I thought it was worth putting out there for consideration.
Of course, if "Everybody Finds Out" is indeed a Lindsey song, that upsets the even balance of songwriting credits as previously reported by Mick, giving Lindsey 10 to Stevie's 8 tracks.

[DownOnRodeo]

Phil you GENIUS!! lol I would have NEVER made that connection, and hadn't seen the thing on SaraRhiannon's site either.
I BET that it's Hit n Run!

Who can say what the story behind not including Down On Rodeo is, but leaving out Shuffle Riff in some form would have been equally bizarre in my book.

Now THIS is one I really look forward to hearing Stevie vocal input on!

:blob2: :] :blob1:

[shackin'up]

I'm certainly not as convinced as Downonrodeo is, but i agree on the sheer brilliance of phils question. This is really good wishful thinking and it could be true!!

I've put GOS on minidisk and since the tracklist showed up I've put all the Say You Will-tracks up front after these wonderful tracks, of cause ending with Say goodbye, I was confronted with "the leftovers", in this row: Shuffle riff, Twist of Fate, Given Thing, Gift of screws, Deep dense, steve's riff, and asked myself: why are they leaving out all the rock?

So if Phil is right, it will be the first Real good news since days and days and days

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by Phil
In that case, does anybody think this could be the official title for what we know as "Shuffle Riff" (aka "Hit & Run" aka "Wait For You")? The line "everybody finds out" is featured early on in this song

I would love it if this were true, but where does that line occur in the song?

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally posted by sodascouts
I would love it if this were true, but where does that line occur in the song?

:confused:

I got so caught up in the excitement I got a case of false memory and thought I had heard that line - now that I've checked, I can't find it either! :confused:

Help us out Phil! :distress:

[Johnny Stew]

Like Phil said, up 'til now, the assumption has been that "Everybody Finds Out" is a Stevie song... based solely on the previously announced information that both Stevie and Lindsey would have an equal amount of songs on the album.
Although I guess that, too, should be taken with a grain of salt, given that we were also told this would be a double disc set.

I wonder if Sara Rhiannon was able to get confirmation via some source, or if crediting it to Lindsey was a simple judgement call, or even a misprint of sorts.

Personally, I'm hoping that it's a co-written track, between Stevie & Lindsey... and not something that we've already heard, and know by another title.

I guess we'll see! :D



Johnny Stew

[CarneVaca]

I would be surprised if the songs were divided equally. That's never happened before. Of course, nothing of what is going on with this album has happened before.

If Lindsey has 10 songs, I'm happy.

[Phil]

Apologies all round... I was mistaken with the reference to "Everybody Finds Out". I could have sworn Lindsey sang that line during "Shuffle Riff" but my recollection was quite inaccurate so I'm sorry for misleading people and raising hopes in vain.

As Johnny Stew commented, it's quite possible that sarahrhiannon.com's crediting of "Everybody Finds Out" to Lindsey may have been speculative or even an error, especially considering that it seems more than likely that the songs will be split evenly between Stevie and Lindsey on the new album.

At the end of the day, it doesn't particularly concern me if Lindsey has more tracks than Stevie as long as the music is of a high calibre. I have every reason to believe it will be even though I am still smarting over the omission of "Down On Rodeo" and inclusion of "Miranda". I don't detest "Miranda" (I actually really dig the lyrics - "She sticks the camera right into her arm/Anything to forget what the trouble's about" is inspired and the guitar refrain is gorgeous) but it was definitely my least favourite song from the "Gift Of Screws" sessions. I'm hoping that some improvements have been made to the chorus during the last 18 months and that maybe some vocal interplay between Lindsey and Stevie might offer some respite.

"Down On Rodeo" is one of Lindsey's greatest compositions in my opinion and I am certain it could have been a hit single so it is beyond me why this was relegated to the vaults. There were other "GOS" songs I would have liked on the new album as well (most notably "Shuffle Riff") but none cried out for Stevie's harmonies in the way "Down On Rodeo" does. I would be very surprised if she didn't record a vocal for it during the "Say You Will" sessions and can only assume it was dropped from the final track selection due to most of Lindsey's contributions already being either soft rock or ballads. Whatever the reason, it is an opportunity wasted for everyone concerned.

[DownOnRodeo]

Well who knows - maybe it is Shuffle Riff after all, as the title makes sense and you and I were fooled into thinking it was even in the song.

I guess all we can say for now is, when the CD comes out, Everybody Finds Out!!

[BombaySapphire3]

It is most likely that Lindsey has 10 songs to Stevie's 8.Remember her songs tend to be longer so it may nearly equal out in actual time .

[Les]

Originally posted by Phil
Apologies all round... I was mistaken with the reference to "Everybody Finds Out". I could have sworn Lindsey sang that line during "Shuffle Riff" but my recollection was quite inaccurate so I'm sorry for misleading people and raising hopes in vain.


Don't apologize just yet...at least not for this. ;) I think there is a phrase in what was originally called "Steve's Riff" (Wear You Down) that has the lyric - "but I found out" a few times. So there could a link there if he changed the lyric slightly and retitled the song. It may be a very tenuous link, but a link nonetheless.

[Skylark]

Pause and Play has Say You Will as the first single and
lists Christine McVie and Sheryl Crow as guests! :laugh:
It also lists Lindsey buckingham as Producer/Engineer!

The plot thickens...with all this talk of lists! Why would
they put Murrow on there with Peacekeeper? One terror
song about ppl blowing up is enough for me! :eek:

I love the way someone mentioned putting Come right
in the middle...a Climax Song! hahaha!!! Say Goodbye
is a sweet song about young love!!! It would be great
at the end of the set as would Down on Rodeo!Oh,Well!Sky;)

[nightbird28]

What is Play and Pause?

[macfan 57]

Originally posted by nightbird28
What is Play and Pause?
"Pause and Play" is a website that has information on upcoming releases-both CD's & DVD's. I've found that it's fairly accurate, too.

[jwd]

Pause and Play has Say You Will as the first single and
lists Christine McVie and Sheryl Crow as guests!

Wouldn't that be something IF Chris is actually on this FIRST single from FM? Puts a little more significance and weight on the song "SAY YOU WILL"doesn't it?! I can't wait to here the whole song...I really do think it may be a big hit for them.....and Sheryl is an added bonus..yay!


Joe

[sarahw]

After reading a bunch of posts I am convinced I am the only person who comes to the Ledge who has not heard any songs from the new album. Except for "Bleed To Love Her." Call me crazy but to me there is nothing like getting a new cd and racing home to hear it cover to cover. If you know what is going to be on there already, doesn't that spoil it a bit?

[DownOnRodeo]

Hey Sarahw - This has been debated before but in the end it comes down to the choice the individual fan makes and the balance of what is lost/gained. Most of the Ledgies here, myself included, see the balance fall in favour of keeping to date with any and all of the raw material the band has been producing in consideration for this album/GOS/TISL. I wouldn't have it any other way! As I've said to somebody before, I don't exactly understand your attitude - you say hearing it fresh for the first time is so important - does that mean the album is any less good over time? No way! It gets better! For me, hearing 'Murrow Turning Over In His Grave' will be like meeting a little cousin all grown up! He can now be treated as an adult, but I wouldnt've passed up the childhood years for quids!

On the other hand, I haven't heard basically any of Stevie's songs, so I'm REALLY looking forwrd to that first time surprise factor, so I definitely see where you're coming from.:wavey:

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Anyway, about Say You Will. I assumed, when I looked at Pause and Play, that Christine would feature on keyboards/backing vocal in the chorus etc. And frankly I was a bit unimpressed as, with this being the album title, likely first single, and essentially the spearhead of the new "BN FM" era, shouldn't the band stop living in the past and go BuckinghamNicks full throttle? Especially when I saw Christine's solo album listed on the same page - which I'm really looking forward to.

But now I've had a change of heart. What if Christine features on some solo vocal parts in the verse? Along with Stevie and Lindsey? It would be the ultimate Rumours-FM song!

Also I've come to appreciate the title of the album. It's the first ever Stevie-named album, and the idea is that Lindsey has come back into the fold because he and Stevie have worked out their differences - in many ways I see it as the first Lindsey-FM album to really 'embrace' Stevie's part in the band, now that her role has been freed up and expanded with Christine's departure. No more 'three songs an album'!

[sarahw]

no...I think an album gets better over time.....I guess that I am one of those people who thinks that demos are an unfinished product....sort of like going outside only half dressed.....I would just rather wait for the artist to release the product they meant it to be when they first wrote it...

[Johnny Stew]

9 times out of 10, I prefer the finished product over the demo, but I really do enjoy hearing a song in its infancy.

Kind of like finding the rough draft of a novel that you love. You can see what ideas the writer was exploring... which ones were expanded upon, and which were ultimately thrown out.
Sometimes you even find yourself thinking, "I really wish they had left that part in."

For me, at least, it gives me more of an appreciation for the writing and recording process.

I do, however, understand the mindset of those who prefer a song to be completely finished the first time they hear it.

It's all good. :)



Johnny Stew