Does anyone one know...

[Christopher]

The Guitar chords for "Thrown Down"

Joe- I noticed you put the "Peacekeeper" ones on another Thread-, and they sound spot on...
I wish I had your ear..., I thought, I had the TD ones figured out from the demo version, but the re-vamped Fleetwood version sounds like it may be in a different key, esp since Stevie is singing it higher than originally in the demo..
Any guitar players out there that can help?

[DownOnRodeo]

Hey Christopher -
Hope I can help again. One thing interesting is that whereas Peacekeeper is in G, TD is in E minor, sort of like the 'Go Your Own Way' and 'Songbird' contrast perhaps. :cool:

Well it's usual Stevie fare as far as chord changes go (but Lindsey/John has made a change from the TISL outtake demo thing by putting more emphasis on the G to C chord change ["That he could be good for her"]and the notes in between, therefore giving the whole thing a more 'major' feel):p

I won't put the lyrics as guides unless you ask for them cause there's nothing really tricky withthe timing or chord changes and you will hopefully be able to understand my half-assed notation.

VERSE

Em D C D (repeat....ad nauseum)

CHORUS

C D Em

G

(repeat...)


Hope it makes sense and that I haven't missed anything!

[Mac Fan]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo


VERSE

Em D C D (repeat....ad nauseum)

CHORUS

C D Em

G

(repeat...)


Hope it makes sense and that I haven't missed anything!

Thanks for posting that. Is Em the same as E?

[CarneVaca]

Lift your index off the first fret from the E chord to get an E minor. The other way to do it is to put your index on the fifth string second fret and middle finder on fourth string second fret.

[Mac Fan]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Lift your index off the first fret from the E chord to get an E minor. The other way to do it is to put your index on the fifth string second fret and middle finder on fourth string second fret.

Thanks. When I posted that, I was thinking of E major.(I think that's what it was anyway)

[Christopher]

Thanks Joe!
Thats it, same key as Edge of Seventeen.....I knew I was close, but you nailed it.

[tuigirl]

..are the chords for Peacekeeper then...it's got to be more than just a G, I detect an Am and a D in there too somewhere or am I listening with different ears????:D

[CarneVaca]

Peacekeeper, as best as I can tell with help from Seteca and DownOnRodeo, goes like this:

Verse:

Em C D (two measures each, repeat)

Chorus:

Em C D G (There's a Gmaj7 passing chord to Em, but you can skip it )
Em Am D Bm

Bridge:

Em C Em (repeat

I think the bridge actually ends on a D, but I'm still working that out.

[DownOnRodeo]

Yes! Sorry about that - I only 'heard' the Am yesterday (then bizarrely could not find where I posted the notes anyway to mention it!). "With our powers combined..." lol

[tuigirl]

Thanks guys.. and I knew there was an Am in there somewhere!

[seteca]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Bridge:

Em C Em (repeat

I think the bridge actually ends on a D, but I'm still working that out.

Hey CV, I just had a listen to it (was away for the weekend so I didn't get a chance till now) and I think ending the bridge by playing the low end of a partial C works quite nicely (e.g. play the standard notes for the E, A and D strings of C then add something yourself for the G and B strings - open strings actually work rather well here I think). I can't hear a D there at all, so I hope we're talking about the same place in the song!:)

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[tuigirl]

..Please can you explain in more simpler terms (for us not so brilliant guitar players) whatever you just said! What the heck are the E, A,and D strings of C? I'm sure the D comes in the chorus just like CV mentioned...It sounds like there should be one there anyway:) it's the stupid Bm, I can't manage on the end... so I just pretend it's not there!

[seteca]

Originally posted by tuigirl
..Please can you explain in more simpler terms (for us not so brilliant guitar players) whatever you just said! What the heck are the E, A,and D strings of C? I'm sure the D comes in the chorus just like CV mentioned...It sounds like there should be one there anyway:) it's the stupid Bm, I can't manage on the end... so I just pretend it's not there!

lol....I'm flattered...:o..but I think it's my total incompetence as a guitar player that has caused your confusion...lol!! Thing is I'm totally self taught: I have been playing for 16 years now totally by ear so although I think (if I may say so) I make a pretty damn good lead guitarist, I would most probably totally fail a Grade 1 music theory test....i.e. naming chords blah blah blah...!
Nothing complicated at all about what I said...there is of course the D in the chorus as CarneVaca said, but I don't think the bridge ends on a D. I think it ends on "C rooted" chord. And to play it, all I meant was instead of playing a C chord as

(x = don't play this string)

E-x
A-3
D-2
G-0
B-1
e-0

play it as

E-x
A-3
D-2
G-choose something that sounds right to you.
B-ditto
e-x

I personally found that playing open G and B strings there sounds quite nice and fits quite well, so that would be

[CHORD ONE]

E-x
A-3
D-2
G-0
B-0
e-x

So that's what...? I guess a partial Cmaj7 or C/B chord.:shrug: But just go through various C rooted chords and mess around with them till it sounds good to you, that's how I do it anyway.

If you're having trouble with Bminor then just play a B5 chord. i.e. the root + 5th combination.

[CHORD TWO]

E-x
A-2
D-4
G-4
B-x
e-x (ok, technically this is meant to be a "2", but nobody ever bothers with it....it defeats the purpose of an "easy chord"!!!)

The B5 works nicely, and besides, you're only playing it for a short while to back-up/replicate the "insane GOS clown laugh" (as I like to call it!) that links back to the Em, so it doesn't really matter that it isn't a full chord.

(Keep working on the Bm...it's a hell of a lot easier than Bmaj anyway!!)

Hope this helped!:)

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by seteca
Hey CV, I just had a listen to it (was away for the weekend so I didn't get a chance till now) and I think ending the bridge by playing the low end of a partial C works quite nicely (e.g. play the standard notes for the E, A and D strings of C then add something yourself for the G and B strings - open strings actually work rather well here I think). I can't hear a D there at all, so I hope we're talking about the same place in the song!:)

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Seteca, my friend, thank you much. I am going to try that. I was thinking D, but wasn't sure at all. So this should clear it up. Sounds like it might be a Cmaj7, which I might add, is a great-sounding chord.

[tuigirl]

....I'm afraid you totally lost me after the words "C rooted"!!!! (she says rolling her eyes!) ........NEVER MIND...I'll figure something out myself, thanks anyway though. :D

[seteca]

Originally posted by tuigirl
....I'm afraid you totally lost me after the words "C rooted"!!!! (she says rolling her eyes!) ........NEVER MIND...I'll figure something out myself, thanks anyway though...

lol..!...I think I was the first musician in the world to use that phrase....! All I meant is a chord which has C as the root...! I was gonna say a "C-type" but that sounds more like a Mercedes Benz than it does a chord...!!:D I've edited my last post to include labels "One" and "Two"...play "Chord One" to end the bridge and play "Chord Two" instead of the Bm that you're having trouble with.

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: