Will we ever open the Gift?

[John]

What would you say are the chances that Gift of Screws will ever be released? And if it does, will it be radically different from what would have been released a year or more ago? How many Gift songs do you think will end up on the new FM album? Thanks for your thoughts.

[seteca]

Hi John, welcome to The Ledge!:cool:

My opinon: Lindsey will never release his solo album "Gift Of Screws".

The Lindsey songs that appear on the new Fleetwood Mac album (if gathered together onto one disc) will be what "Gift Of Screws" would have been if it had been a single (i.e. not double) album.

There is a rumour that the number of tracks on the FM album is 23, so if we say there is 1 co-written (between LB and SN), that gives them 11 tracks each. I'd say 10 of LB's will be GOS tracks that we have already heard.

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[John]

Hi seteca and thank you. I had no idea there might be that many tracks on the new FM album, so you might be right there could be a lot of GOS songs on there. The future is looking good! :)

[chiliD]

I'm assuming that with only one or two exceptions, every "Lindsey" tune on the new album will already be MORE than familiar to us...it is the Stevie tunes that are the question marks.

I've read where "Gift Of Screws" is one of the finalists for the new album's title, so THAT alone should give you some answer as to the status of Lindsey's long-lost solo album.

[CarneVaca]

As for a co-writing credit, we already know one song that qualifies: "Deep Dense." Boy, I'd love to see that song kick off the album; it is one of my favorites off the Gift of Screws batch. Add some Stevie harmonies to the song and I think it would simply kick butt.

[stefan]

Originally posted by seteca

My opinon: Lindsey will never release his solo album "Gift Of Screws".

As often I agree with you Seteca. It`s hard to see how this could happen. In the next 1,5 years FM is the current project for him. And also some of the GOS material will be on the FM album. But
I must admit that I'd be very disappointed if the number of already known songs really was 10 out of 11. Very often there was said that he had so many songs on hold from 10 years of work. So I really hope that there still are some surprises left for us. Let`s wait and see...

[Jessica Leigh]

i'm sure we're all pretty much assuming that lindsey's gos songs that make it to the new fm album will be rerecorded with the other band members... but.... what if they aren't? what if half of this album is just songs that we've all had for almost two years? same exact versions... with maybe a few stevie harmonies added on?

[tuigirl]

what if half of this album is just songs that we've all had for almost two years? same exact versions... with maybe a few stevie harmonies added on
Well Jessica..it wouldn't bother me if that were the case, some of those songs are fab, just the way they are! :) I'm sure whichever GOS songs are on there, he's worked them to his best ability and as I see a few spring bulbs poking their heads up in my garden already... I can't wait! :laugh:

[Skylark]

Peacemaker or whatever its called is not on GOS is it? :D
Surely Lindsey has been working on new tunes between
singing lullabies and building a new home!!!;) Later!Sky:)

[seteca]

Originally posted by Jessica Leigh
.... what if they aren't? what if half of this album is just songs that we've all had for almost two years? same exact versions...

That would be almost....hilarious! Or rather, ridiculous!:eek:

Imagine, a double album:

Disc 1: "Gift Of Screws", written, performed and produced, solely, by Lindsey Buckingham.

Disc 2: "12 new Stevie songs," written by Stevie Nicks, performed by Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie (with additional vocals by Lindsey Buckingham). Produced by Fleetwood Mac, with special thanks from the band to Lindsey Buckingham.

Can you imagine!!:laugh::eek:

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[CarneVaca]

Lindsey is not rerecording GOS songs. I'm not there in the studio with the band, but going by logic, the GOS songs were finished for the most part. They simply had to be mastered. I'm sure some remixing took place to add Stevie vocals, but those songs were done. And they are damn good. If he gives us some new stuff we haven't heard, why, that would just be icing.

[Wldhrt315]

Originally posted by seteca
That would be almost....hilarious! Or rather, ridiculous!:eek:

Imagine, a double album:

Disc 1: "Gift Of Screws", written, performed and produced, solely, by Lindsey Buckingham.

Disc 2: "12 new Stevie songs," written by Stevie Nicks, performed by Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie (with additional vocals by Lindsey Buckingham). Produced by Fleetwood Mac, with special thanks from the band to Lindsey Buckingham.

Can you imagine!!:laugh::eek:

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OH MY WORD!!!! I just had a vision, what if that happens, NAH! Could they do something like this?? FM is a band not one person with support. Weird thought!:eek:

[Jessica Leigh]

Originally posted by Wldhrt315
OH MY WORD!!!! I just had a vision, what if that happens, NAH! Could they do something like this?? FM is a band not one person with support. Weird thought!:eek:

yeah that's exactly what i was thinking... i mean yeah, they are good songs... but you are right... fleetwood mac is a band... i'mnot asking for a whole different version of each of the gos songs... i'm just hoping there is a sufficient amount of the rest of the members on the songs.

[tuigirl]

..we'd STILL be waiting for this album. So far, it's just taken over a year hasn't it ( I can't remember when they started )? Quite quick by Lindsey standards is it not?? :D

[chiliD]

What it seems we're forgetting here is that "GoS" was NOT the "all-Lindsey" affair like "OotC" was. Lindsey had either members of his OotC band on the early demos or Mick & John later on (no rhyme intended) working with him on those tunes.

And, I think from close listening to the songs that got leaked, most of the tracks with bass & drums WERE Mick & John...so there you have 3/4 of the current Fleetwood Mac already having recorded the tunes. So, what's the big deal? As Lindsey said in that article this time last year, it really doesn't matter to him what NAME those songs are released under. :)

But, what I find interesting is, why is there so much flak about how many GOS tunes will be on the new album with them being for all intents LEGITIMATE Fleetwood Mac songs, and yet there's almost NO flak about "Tusk" or "Tango" having songs that were 100% Lindsey with none of the others participating? :shrug:

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by Wldhrt315
FM is a band, not one person with support.Tell that to all the people out there, who think Fleetwood Mac is just Stevie's back-up band! :laugh:



Johnny Stew

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by chiliD
But, what I find interesting is, why is there so much flak about how many GOS tunes will be on the new album with them being for all intents LEGITIMATE Fleetwood Mac songs, and yet there's almost NO flak about "Tusk" or "Tango" having songs that were 100% Lindsey with none of the others participating? :shrug: A friend of mine (who's also a Mac fan) was severely disappointed when it became apparent that Lindsey would use his 'Gift Of Screws' tracks on the new Mac album.
He complained that it would be another album, like 'Tusk,' where the band had little to do on LB's songs.
Which is something I just don't get.

Perhaps people have that perception because it was meant to be a solo project.
But I'd think by now, that folks would realize/accept that Mick & John played (from what we're told) extensively on many of the 'GoS' tracks, so they're not as "solo" as Lindsey's previous albums.
So once Stevie then adds her harmony vocals, they become Fleetwood Mac songs, pure and simple.

Maybe the reason there's so much flak in regards to this particular album, is the fact that we've had our hands on the 'GoS' tunes for so long now, and many of us know them backward and foreward... regarding them as Lindsey solo tunes in the process.

Frankly though, that won't diminish my enjoyment of the Mac album one bit.
I guess I always stay mindful that I should never have heard any of these tunes in the first place (same goes for any "archived" song Stevie may use).



Johnny Stew

[chiliD]

If "Thrown Down" is any clue as to what era demos Stevie gave Lindsey, then I'm surprised that there hasn't been MORE said about the use of Stevie's "TISL" throwaways for the upcoming album.

Likewise with me, I'm looking forward to the new album, even if it IS a combination of GOS & TISL leftovers...at least, the official "seal of approval" will be on it. After all, it IS going to be a Fleetwood Mac album...to my ears, there's never been one that through-and-through has been a stinker...I can count their "stinker" songs on one hand...pretty good percentage of success, I think. :shrug:

[Skylark]

Didn't Stevie say in an interview that...Lindsey and she had enough songs "left over" from GOS & TISL for a double album???

As I read this thread and the lengthy Thrown Down thread I
kept thinking... Maybe they could do the double cd this way...

... Disc one...Lindsey and Stevie with the Fleetwood Mac Band featuring a guest appearance by...Christine McVie!!! :)

Next you will play... Disc Two..Stevie and Lindsey with the Fleetwood Mac Band featuring...Stevie's guest...Sheryl Crowe!
Could Happen!;) Hey, Iam # 8 I hope :cool:!!!:nod: :D :) Bye, Sky :)

[seteca]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Tell that to all the people out there, who think Fleetwood Mac is just Stevie's back-up band! :laugh:



Johnny Stew

lol! That would be a pretty damn solid back-up band to have!!!

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[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by chiliD
If "Thrown Down" is any clue as to what era demos Stevie gave Lindsey, then I'm surprised that there hasn't been MORE said about the use of Stevie's "TISL" throwaways for the upcoming album.True, true... but these tracks really aren't just rejects or cast-offs from 'TISL.'
Granted, they were demo'd within the same time-period, but Stevie has said that she purposely put them aside, with the intention of using them for the next Mac album.

So it seems that they were never in the running for use on 'TISL,' and were always ear-marked as Mac tunes.

I get the feeling that we're gonna have a smattering of music from a few different time-frames on the album.
Some of Lindsey's 'GoS' songs, certainly... and then I bet he's written a couple that will be brand new to us.
Same with Stevie... maybe one or two of those '70s-'80s archived songs... then a couple of the tunes written around the time she was writting for 'TISL'... and then a few more that were written just within the past year, and will be completely new to the fans.



Johnny Stew

[John]

Does anyone know the level of involvement (if any) Christine will have on this album? I know she's said she won't tour any more but has she written or recorded anything for the new album? I'll sure miss her contributions if she's not part of this one.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by John
Does anyone know the level of involvement (if any) Christine will have on this album?So far, the only thing we've heard officially, is that Christine appears (singing & playing keyboards) on one track that remains from the 'Gift Of Screws' sessions.

And, at the moment, we can only make educated guesses as to which song they're referring to (it's presumed to be "Steal Your Heart Away").

Sorry I don't have more info than that.



Johnny Stew

[Wldhrt315]

In addition to what has already been said is this thread I want to add that I would also really like to hear 1 or 2 songs on the album lyrically written by Stevie and Lindsey and recorded as a duet. I read that Stevie was jealous when Lindsey and Chris wrote World Turning because throughout their career Lindsey hadn't written WITH her.

[Mac Fan]

Originally posted by Skylark
Peacemaker or whatever its called is not on GOS is it? Later!Sky:)

Do you mean Peacekeeper?

[seteca]

Originally posted by Wldhrt315
I would also really like to hear 1 or 2 songs on the album lyrically written by Stevie and Lindsey and recorded as a duet.

It should be very interesting indeed...they have such different methods of writing and (evidently) thought processes, it will be like "the mystery cocktail you get served at a bar"...it could taste like sewage, or it could be the nicest drink you've ever had.

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