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David
12-14-2002, 05:30 PM
Fleetwood is starting an official fan club, which you can read about over on his message board. It will cost U.S. residents up to $90 to join. Apparently, you will get a CD by Mick's band Mojo as well as the opportunity to buy concert tickets in some sort of special section two days in advance of the on-sale date, plus some other stuff like autographed photos & "discounts" on that site's shopping gallery.

I don't think I will be ... er ... joining. But my best wishes to those who do join.

In a thread on the Mick Fleetwood message board about Web sites that were around at the time of the 1997 tour, I posted something about the Penguin, & some self-appointed whip-cracker named jackie blasted me for saying anything about another Web site on Mick's board. Her angle seems to be that the official site will soon inevitably overtake this one as the Internet Central of FM information & entertainment -- I guess because of its direct connection to Mr. Fleetwood himself. (I'm not sure how you logically get from one point to the other, but I'm afraid to broach the subject with jackie.) She holds the recent live chat fiasco with Mick as an example of great things to come.

Here's how I feel about Mick's site: I'm not impressed. I am completely open to being impressed in the future, but that burden to impress is on Mick & his site operators, not me, & they have a long way to go. Quite frankly, I don't hold terribly high hopes, owing to my past experience with things official -- particularly pertaining to Fleetwood Mac.

I'm also a little afraid of posting anything over there again. Self-appointed whip-crackers don't exactly make one feel welcome.

joe
12-14-2002, 05:40 PM
your post is about the funniest thing i've heard/read all day. THANKS!!!

AliP
12-14-2002, 06:03 PM
I agree. I don't give a s**t about many of the topics he has to chat about such as "Golf tips" or whatever it is. I think $90 is a rip-off to pay to join his club. And I wonder what kind of special tickets he will be selling? Probably not any better than I could get anywhere else. Now if there was a Fleetwood Mac fan club I might join. I like Mick, but not enough to only receive information/stuff pertaining to him which is basically all he is promoting on that site.

seteca
12-14-2002, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by David
....Her angle seems to be that the official site will soon inevitably overtake this one as the Internet Central of FM information & entertainment....

Those website moderators, along with Fleetwood Mac's management can continue to live in dream world if they want, but I wish they would just stop being stubborn and accept that THE PENGUIN is for all intents and purposes (at least from The Fan's point of view) the Internet Central of FM information & entertainment. This website should have been made the official one years ago, with Marty left fully in charge and in direct contact with FM's management.

But noooooooooo........they give us an "Official Website" which consists of two links to the Nicks Fix and Mick's Site, and four pretty much (however interesting they may be) random quotes from the members of FM.:rolleyes:

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

estranged4life
12-14-2002, 06:22 PM
$90 for a fan club??? Is he insane or just a "i-fit-iron-dick"??? I would never pay that much for ANY fanclub...EVER!!! And I agree with David, His website isnt that impressive to me...I have seen much BETTER fan sites ("The Penguin") than his quote "Official" website...Brian J.

ps-BTW, "i-fit-iron-dick" is an anagram for "Frickin Idiot" (Which appears courtesy of "Austin Power's Goldmember" DVD!!!!)

BLY
12-14-2002, 06:30 PM
I agree, The Ledge is Fleetwood Mac central. It will always be the place for "whats going on" with Fleetwood Mac. Thanks Marty!

Johnny Stew
12-15-2002, 12:56 AM
Hmm... i'm wondering what kind of goodies he'll offer to those of us who paid 30 bucks to become lifetime members of the official Fleetwood Mac fan club in 1990.

I received a glossy pic of the band, and two newsletters.
I can only assume all of my other newsletters and goodies have been getting lost in the mail for the past twelve years. :rolleyes:



Johnny Stew

estranged4life
12-15-2002, 01:06 AM
I keep receiving someone named Brian's "Fleetwood Mac" fan-club items ALL the time in the mail...LOL!!!!...Wonder "Why"???...Brian J.

sulamith
12-15-2002, 01:21 AM
WTF?
I will just take that extra 90 and give it to my local scalper..(COUGH!) oh, excuse me, broker, when I need those tickets.

I find Mick's site incredibly boring and not very user-friendly.
Those folks over there scared me off in about a day. The Ledge is best for broad information and the coolest spin-off groups.

silversprings8
12-15-2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by thewhitewingedd
90 Bucks US....OH MY GOD...Thats almost 150 in Canada......RIPPPPPPPP OFFFFFFFFFF



Agreed!!!! I can't believe this... and you only get 4 tickets per year per membership! Give me a break!

nodmod
12-15-2002, 06:55 AM
Well the retort on Mick's board to David's post was a very interesting read.

"No arguments on Mick's board, unlike The Ledge", ummmm I think not.

And about the Fan Club, this is ridiculous, how much to join and for what, why is there a $10.00 premium for international members!!
Why has no discussion taken place on the critisium leveled at this Fan Club on Mick's board, seems an open discussion on the merits of Fan Club only suffice if you agree with everything they say.

This whole episode stinks of another way of Mick cranking out more $$$$ or £££££ from his fanbase.

Plus as Johnny Stew pointed out, the 1990 Fan Club was short lived, what happenes after 2003 when Fleetwood Mac and Mick start to wind down, another album straight away!! more like 5 or 6 years of no activity.

Of course I would post this on Mick's BB, but I'll get flamed for criticising!!

Mac Fan
12-15-2002, 11:18 AM
$90 is very expensive to join a fan club. I'd never pay that much.

Gypsy-Rhiannon
12-15-2002, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by nodmod
Well the retort on Mick's board to David's post was a very interesting read.

"No arguments on Mick's board, unlike The Ledge", ummmm I think not.

And about the Fan Club, this is ridiculous, how much to join and for what, why is there a $10.00 premium for international members!!
Why has no discussion taken place on the critisium leveled at this Fan Club on Mick's board, seems an open discussion on the merits of Fan Club only suffice if you agree with everything they say.

This whole episode stinks of another way of Mick cranking out more $$$$ or £££££ from his fanbase.

Plus as Johnny Stew pointed out, the 1990 Fan Club was short lived, what happenes after 2003 when Fleetwood Mac and Mick start to wind down, another album straight away!! more like 5 or 6 years of no activity.

Of course I would post this on Mick's BB, but I'll get flamed for criticising!!
You should post Neil. They should take the good remarks with the bad. I must admit I initially though great but have changed my mind somewhat

Pip

Rainman
12-15-2002, 01:13 PM
No opinion on Mick's site, but one about The Penguin . . .

I've watched this site grow "organically" over the years, which is usually the best way. It's a site by and for the fans. Very responsive, too. It's so well done.

Now, The Ledge is just a gem, IMHO. Yes, we have our fights and our hissy fits and all-out brawls. But isn't that what authentic interaction is all about? And it seems that after all that dies down and everyone goes and has a drink and/or a joint and a good night's sleep, we're all a family again.

And no one's asking us to pay $90 to be FM fans. I thought that's what CD and ticket purchases were for . . .

Mari
12-15-2002, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Rainman
[B

Now, The Ledge is just a gem, IMHO. Yes, we have our fights and our hissy fits and all-out brawls. But isn't that what authentic interaction is all about? And it seems that after all that dies down and everyone goes and has a drink and/or a joint and a good night's sleep, we're all a family again. [/B]

:rolleyes: Umm.. Umm... comments just burning on my lips, here..
never mind, that wasn't the subject of this thread.

about Mick Fleetwood... whatever respect I had left for the guy has now diminished even more. $90?!?! haha! it must be a joke!

sulamith
12-15-2002, 02:21 PM
Well............
This site definitely has subjects that alot of folks consider taboo, and that is too bad, BUT at least we can have discussions on broad FM topics and we are allowed to disagree most of the time. If you do disagree, around here, at least it is pretty easy to still find people to talk to that do agree with you.

Mick's site won't even have the chance to evolve the way this one has if they don't cut it out over there.

If the Mick Board persists in flaming everyone who has a differet opinion than the mods, then I think people will stop going there, "incentives" or not.

We are all smart enough to know how to get tickets without having to put up with that.

Vianna
12-15-2002, 05:57 PM
$90.00? Out of the question...

As for no arguments on that board-all I can say is I know a post was deleted so there must have been some kind of an argument, and after that here was a post asking everyone to behave and not let Mick's board become "like some others" where everybody fights=-) Had to get a kick out of that one.

The Ledge will be going on long after that one has fallen into obscurity because you know after the tour that will be the end of it. They just want to get people revved up for the concert..

estranged4life
12-15-2002, 06:09 PM
find it funny that they talk about "the Ledge" so much over there?? Apparently SOMEONE is watching this "big family gathering" WE have over here...Must be some type of envy IMO, Brian J.

EnchantedStorms
12-15-2002, 07:06 PM
I went to Mick's board a few times after it first came up, but I haven't been back since. It's just too lame, IMO. lol. I can't believe that he is asking 90 bucks to join the fanclub. No thanks. And if there is anything that's even remotely interesting that comes from it, I'm sure you'll more than likely be able to find it on Ebay in a couple of years for a dollar or two. :rolleyes: :laugh: As for tickets...well, I had fourth row for the Dance...just from going to Ticketmaster the day they went on sale. Eleventh row for TISL from Ticketmaster the day before the show. I think I can manage to get decent seats on my own.

~Angela~:wavey:

wetcamelfood
12-15-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by EnchantedStorms
if there is anything that's even remotely interesting that comes from it, I'm sure you'll more than likely be able to find it on Ebay in a couple of years for a dollar or two

Exactly! The only thing of interest to me that is "to only go to members" is the Mojo CD so why should I (in effect) pay $90 (for the membership) + $20 for the CD itself = $110 for a CD that I can get on ebay a little while later (and then Mick doesn't get any of the precious money he wants so bad out of this)? I like to get the music the minute it comes out like the next guy but when it comes to THIS kind of price difference, um, I think I can wait a few months until it comes out officially (or like on ebay as said above)!

I did ask Knight straight out (since he says that "the members will get this CD FIRST (TWICE he used the "first" phrase)" if he is saying that this means that the members will get it first and THEN it will be released (and/or sold at the "gallery") or released in some other form AFTER that initial "givng out to the members" of this CD but as yet, he has not answered it and no doubt if/when he does, he will not give a straight "yes" or "no" when that is all I'm asking for, oh well! :)

Once again, this seems to be another sad example of how Mick thinks he can make money and then fail at getting it (in the amount he seems to think he will get of it anyways). I know the "Mick lovers" who obviously lurk here will take exception to what I say here so I must state my usual disclaimers here again of "I LOVE Mick AS A DRUMMER but..."

I visit his site less and less as each day goes on as well. If fleetwoodmac.com is to be the same way as his site/board (no doubt it will be if it does evolve in to anything at all as it's apparently going to be run by the same folks) then this makes me all the MORE determined (than I already am) to post any news about the band and it members HERE to help keep The Penguin/Ledgeboards the best place on the web for all things FM (whether they like it or not! NA, NA NA, NA NA, NA!) :)

JMHO though. :)

John

Bella Figura
12-16-2002, 11:40 AM
to join or not to join Mick's board, personally I'm still lurking myself. The board is still tooo new so it's a bit like the Wild West over there with lots of posts with very little substance. Besides I'm not crazy about the way it's organized...

$50 - $90 dollars to join his fanclub, Mick does love his money, the twins will need college you know!!! :laugh: I have a feeling that Johnny Stew and nodmod are right, we'll pay a lot for very little, I'm definetely not interested in 3D glasses. :p

...so we fight here...big deal...the Ledge has learned the hard way the fine line between the free exchange of ideas and verbal abuse and overall it's made the Ledge stronger. Even though some really good knowledgeable posters have been "lost" along the way. In the final analysis, The Ledge always has the more interesting topics/opinions and info plus the usual sugary "I love Stevie, I love Lindsey, I love Mick" posts.

WelshWitchPMD
12-16-2002, 06:06 PM
I really think that for $90.00 we should get:

A promo copy of the new Mac cd and/or single.

First 10 rows center seating for every venue.

A Meet & Greet with the band.

A press kit from the new CD.

Thats all I can think of for now. It will never happen, but one can have hope.

silversprings8
12-16-2002, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by WelshWitchPMD
I really think that for $90.00 we should get:

A promo copy of the new Mac cd and/or single.

First 10 rows center seating for every venue.

A Meet & Greet with the band.

A press kit from the new CD.

Thats all I can think of for now. It will never happen, but one can have hope.

Personally I'd be willing to pay more than $90 for all of that!

Wldhrt315
12-17-2002, 12:02 AM
Question about this silly fan club....so you pay the stinkin $90 for membership fees and you get pre-order tickets right? Well, you still have to pay for the tickets right? And full price. I am just going on assumption here. Full price wont be cheap for a Fleetwood Mac concert. No question about that. If this is all true, then what is the benefit? I cant see a one!

Oh and I totally agree with getting:
A promo copy of the new Mac cd and/or single.

First 10 rows center seating for every venue.

A Meet & Greet with the band.

A press kit from the new CD.

Now that would be worth every penny.

Gypsy-Rhiannon
12-17-2002, 04:27 AM
It has now been pointed out that the pre-sale tickets might not be in the first few rows but surely it is more important that we have ok seats with other fans....Um no!!! lol

Pip

kristin
12-18-2002, 09:14 AM
Yeah......guys, $90 is SOOOOOOOO expensive for a fan club.....I have been doing research on fan clubs all sesmter for the record company I am interning for and let me tell you that the average price for fan clubs is about $27.00, so I don't know WHERE they are coming up with this $50-$90 stuff......and yes, we will have to pay for tickets on top of that $90 fee.....I don't think I am going to do it....that kind of price makes me want to go out and use a scalper even more. Micks people need to really rethink that.....the only other artist that charges $90 is PRINCE, but his fans get like 3 cd's a year of original music, VIP passes to soundchecks and after parties, and good tickets. Sorry I'm not all that psyched about the 3D glasses.....lol.

Kristin

seteca
12-18-2002, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by kristin
....Sorry I'm not all that psyched about the 3D glasses.....lol...

I got a pair of 3D glasses in my packet of Kellogs this morning. Maybe I should ask for a 33% discount now that I already have 1/3 of their Fan Club package.

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

kristin
12-19-2002, 10:44 AM
Oh my god.....such a good call!! haha.....

Kristin

iamstevienicks
12-19-2002, 11:30 AM
NO THANX!!!!!