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mike_nh
12-11-2002, 10:59 PM
I thought this might get some fans thinking. my choice is..
''and not all the prayers in the world could save us''

EnchantedStorms
12-11-2002, 11:28 PM
From the demo, The Tower...

"Don't take me to the tower, and take my child away..."


Oh, man...that's sad.:(

~Angela~:wavey:

Janet
12-12-2002, 12:25 AM
I have to agree, the Tower has the saddest lyrics...what a devastatingly sad song!

golddustchic
12-12-2002, 12:44 AM
I definitely agree with the Tower....truly sad.

Also the lyric from "Ghosts":

"To feel the empty spaces she's feeling
She depends on her music like a husband
And she knows it's no good to fall in love again"

This kills me every time I hear it.

sisterofthemoon
12-12-2002, 08:43 AM
al of Storms...
and the part in Beautiful Child (closer to the end) when she sing "I wish that you were mine." It's not so much the words, but the way she sings them.... :(

Jen77
12-12-2002, 02:13 PM
:wavey:

Can someone please write out the lyrics to the Tower??

thanks
Jen:cool:

ricohv
12-12-2002, 06:51 PM
i COPIES THIS FROM sARArHIANNONS SITE (many sites have demo and outtake lyrics):
Stevie Nicks
Demo

Don't take me to the tower...
And take my child away...
Twas I who was the hourglass
And sands of time like shattering glass
Went past me...
Like a tunnel to the sea...

And I who went to sleep in tears
Woke up in tears for all of the years...
And I had said goodbye before and then...
I said goodbye again...

And when you hold yourself and know that
There were two...
Now only you remain...
You'll close your eyes and travel back...
Through the time when the light went fading fast...
And the words you'll never, never forget....
As I slipped away...

Goodbye, baby...
Goodbye, baby...
Goodbye, baby...

ejof17
12-12-2002, 09:49 PM
"She is dancing away from you now...she was just a wish, she was just a wish. And her memory is all that is left for you now."

-OR-

"Now I know
Well, I was wrong
To live for a dream
If I had my life to live over
I would never dream, no
I still wish you gone
And I will live alone
Yes, I will live alone"

-OR-

"No one knows how I feel
What I say unless you read between my lines
One man walked away from me
First he took my hand" --- Oh Linds, why'd you let her marry Kim?

-OR-

"And now you're gone and I'm alone, and I'm so lonely
Nothing seems to be the same
One day I turned around and you no longer loved me"

-OR-

"Sits across the table...same glass table
And she cries to her friend, "Why am I so alone?"
He says, "Woah, woah, baby...oh, my baby
You have to know...you have to know"

Sorcerer386
12-12-2002, 09:55 PM
The Tower definitely ranks up there. I don't know if I could pick a "saddest" lyric, but here's a few that come to mind:

"He watched from the corridor, watched from the corner of his eye seemingly waiting for the time when her castle walls would all fall down..."
Like someone that you once loved is now waiting for you to screw up and will be happy about it. Not so much sad as it is just upsetting when put into context.

"She is dancing away from you now, she was just a wish...and a memory's all that is left for you now."
Someone died, you only have their memory left.

"The people, they love her, but still they're the most cruel."
Again, more upsetting than sad...the people who love you most are the most critical of what you do.

"So I ended it all for the both of us, I fell down the stairs, a broken rag doll."
Someone committing suicide is never a nice thought...

Nightbird_Brett
12-12-2002, 10:08 PM
"So I ended it all for the both of us, I fell down the stairs, a broken rag doll."


Sorcerer,
Which song is that verse from?
Thanks,
Brett

blackwidower
12-12-2002, 10:51 PM
oh every thing on space needle. most stevie songs have some feeling of hope on them but this one doesnt i cried the forst time i heard it. ive heard its about kurt cobain (RIP) and all that. oh god its depressing tear...

Sorcerer386
12-13-2002, 02:39 PM
Brett, that line is from Street Angel. I really REALLY used to hate this song, and I still think it's not nearly the best musically, but I just liked the story of the song.

And yes, I completely forgot about Space Needle...
We've got to get out of this place
If it's the last thing we ever do
A haunting song from the rock and roll past
Ooh, they said that too
Now we are dying just like them
It's a stranger deja vu...

And of course:
Beautiful faces not so beautiful anymore

Getting older is something that really freaks me out, as I'm sure it does to mostly anyone (unless you're a teen).

By the way, I'd really like to know what "the tarp people" is all about...anyone know or have an idea?

golddustchic
12-13-2002, 04:17 PM
By the way, I'd really like to know what "the tarp people" is all about...anyone know or have an idea?

You know...I've always wondered that too. I really have no idea, but if someone does let us know. It seems to come out of nowhere to me.

Sorcerer386
12-14-2002, 01:09 AM
Even still Adam, what the Hell are the "tar" people?

EnchantedStorms
12-14-2002, 09:59 AM
The "tar" people?? lol, wth?

I always thought she was saying the "dark" people....? As in depressed. I'm gonna have to go listen again, lol.

~Angela~:wavey:

studyinscarlet
12-15-2002, 03:16 AM
"Rock on gold dust woman, take your silver spoon, dig your grave..."
That whole song now that I know what it was all about.

'Love Is'. The entire song.
'Sara' makes me sad. But I love it.

EnchantedSLN
12-15-2002, 03:59 AM
>"The TAR People Are Back Again".....
>I guess no one really knows?

Tar is another name for heroin... as the song sounds to me like it's about her experience in rehab, "tar people" could refer to heroin users who were unable to stay clean. (I'm thinking of an interview quote from EW mag in which Stevie says that her Klonopin detox was 45 days, and she saw generations of other drug users who underwent much shorter treatment periods come & go)

(btw, I think I chose a weird post to introduce myself with, but for the record, I've been a long-time lurker here & post on some other forums around the net. some faces here are familiar, others aren't... hope to chat with you guys often & get to know those I haven't had the pleasure of meeting yet :))

saradorna
12-15-2002, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by EnchantedSLN
Tar is another name for heroin... as the song sounds to me like it's about her experience in rehab, "tar people" could refer to heroin users who were unable to stay clean. (I'm thinking of an interview quote from EW mag in which Stevie says that her Klonopin detox was 45 days, and she saw generations of other drug users who underwent much shorter treatment periods come & go)

(btw, I think I chose a weird post to introduce myself with, but for the record, I've been a long-time lurker here & post on some other forums around the net. some faces here are familiar, others aren't... hope to chat with you guys often & get to know those I haven't had the pleasure of meeting yet :))

Welcome Tiffany, you'll have fun here.

Isabel:wavey:

PenguinHead
12-15-2002, 10:31 PM
Hi Tifanny, You beat me to it, but I also was going to clarify that "tar" is sometimes used as drug jargon, referring to heroin. I wasn't aware until now that Space Needle was inspired by Kurt Cobian, but it all makes sense now!

EnchantedSLN
12-15-2002, 11:28 PM
Thanks for the welcome Isabel :).

And PenguinHead... that never occured to me about Space Needle having to do with Cobain. I understood the drug/rehab references, but always wondered why the space needle was mentioned in the song, as neither Betty Ford or Exodus are anywhere near Seattle. Lol. That sounds a probable theory!

Sorcerer386
12-15-2002, 11:42 PM
I still hold Space Needle up for interpretation. I think the whole Space Needle thing might have to do with the Seattle grunge movement as a whole, which of course was pretty much led by Cobain. Mostly the whole music industry was filled with dark, angry lyrics, and around this time WAS when she was at her Klonopin height and then biggest weight after rehab. Plus, that's just part of the song. The other part is just about getting older and realizing it...they're "dying just like them," the older rock and rollers. But with Stevie, who really knows? The Space Needle in Seattle might have nothing to do with HER Space Needle. I just really want this song on the new album and hope she talks about it.

Also, thank you for clarifying what "tar people" are. :wavey:

kristin
12-16-2002, 09:01 AM
From Storms:

"Every night that goes between, I feel a little less
As you slowly go away from me, this is only another test..."

"So I try to say goodbye my friend, I'd like to leave you with something warm
For never have I been a blue-calm sea, I have always been a storm..."

"Everynight he will break your heart, I should have known from the first, I'd be the broken hearted,
But I loved you from the start..."

This song kills me.

Kristin

golddustwoman77
12-16-2002, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by kristin
From Storms:

"Every night that goes between, I feel a little less
As you slowly go away from me, this is only another test..."

"So I try to say goodbye my friend, I'd like to leave you with something warm
For never have I been a blue-calm sea, I have always been a storm..."

"Everynight he will break your heart, I should have known from the first, I'd be the broken hearted,
But I loved you from the start..."

This song kills me.

Kristin

I have to agree! This is the saddest song of Stevie's. I agree with the original poster. The saddest lyrics in Storms is the last line in the song: "And not all the prayers in the world could save us." SOOOOO Sad!!!!!!!!!!! :(


:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

anghave
12-18-2002, 12:14 AM
I agree with whoever mentioned the lyric in *Beautiful Child* at the end, where Stevie sings "I wish that you were mine" over and over. There's a heartache in her voice that beats any vocal I've ever heard in any song, ever. *Beautiful Child* is one of my all-time faves of Stevie's songs anyway, but hardly anyone ever mentions it. Isn't there any other big fans of that song here? I used to play the keyboard part over and over, for hours. It's just exquisite.

Oh, and there's some sort-of sad lines in "Sara" (which is one of my other Stevie faves). "Drowning...in the sea of love...where everyone would love to drown" has a magically somber ring to me. And the line "All I ever wanted...was to know that you were dreaming" is sweetly sad.

"Poets...priests of nothing" in HAEWAFY seems not only sad, but kind of nihilistic...but I notice Stevie manages to convey a quite dark view without seeming totally anti-love or life. That seems to be a very special talent of hers.

kristin
12-18-2002, 07:44 PM
Yes, I am a HUGE Beautiful Child fan as well. Her vocal is so well done and sounds so fragile, it's perfect for the song.

Kristin

Greta
12-19-2002, 12:16 AM
i LOVE beautiful child! it's one of my favorite Stevie songs.....and that part is so sad.....when her voice cracks "i wish that you were mine..." and she just sounds so sad.

also, one of the saddest lines ever written "and not all the prayers in the world could save us"........that line just gets me every time. it's my favorite part in storms....

oh, and also, in HAEWAFY, she only does this during live versions, and the best one is during Storytellers....but it just kills me at the end when she sings "Priests of.....*looks behind her dramatically and pauses* nothing" i LOVE that pause in between! it's just so....wow,lol. i can't describe it.

LilyRhiannon
12-20-2002, 02:24 AM
Sara - "And there's a heart beat and it never really died"
Beautiful Child - the whole darned song makes me cry
Fire Burning - "there is no fire burning, just a soul crying"
Rose Garden - "I've got all these things, all these things but a small gold band, on my finger, on my left hand"

joe
12-20-2002, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Sorcerer386
I just really want this song on the new album and hope she talks about it.

I liked this song when i first heard it....I haven't played again til now...i think i could go for this on the FM album. I think it could be a real heavy rocker type....almost in the vein of "Sisters of the Moon" but yet it sort of reminds me of "Trouble in Shangri-La" (the song) and believe it or not it's got a B/N feel to me...almost like "Frozen Love"....it's got that epic feel to it. This song definately is more interesting to me than "Thrown Down" at least lyrically...i kind of like it when things aren't so literal lyrically.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off the main topic...just thought i'd add my thoughts on this song since there seemed to be a subthread going on...

joe
12-20-2002, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by joe
I liked this song when i first heard it....I haven't played again til now...i think i could go for this on the FM album. I think it could be a real heavy rocker type....almost in the vein of "Sisters of the Moon" but yet it sort of reminds me of "Trouble in Shangri-La" (the song) and believe it or not it's got a B/N feel to me...almost like "Frozen Love"....it's got that epic feel to it. This song definately is more interesting to me than "Thrown Down" at least lyrically...i kind of like it when things aren't so literal lyrically.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off the main topic...just thought i'd add my thoughts on this song since there seemed to be a subthread going on...


duh! it would have been nice if i made reference to what song i was talking about huh? "Space Needle".

BombaySapphire3
12-21-2002, 05:04 AM
I really hope"Space Needle' turns up on the new album.I thought from the first some of it is about Kobain's death.Would love to hear Lindsey's work on it.

Rhiannon
01-04-2003, 04:33 PM
"It's only me who wants to wrap around your dreams."

-She sounds so resigned and dejected. I first payed attention to the lyrics one night driving along near the coast under the light a bright moon.

ricohv
01-06-2003, 02:21 AM
Space Needle is far more interesting to me lyrically than Thrown Down but it puts me in the mind of Joan of Arc- interesting but WEIRD. Ican'timagine it ever being on a FM album.
Hmm, what was this thread about again?:)

Steve
01-06-2003, 02:46 AM
Boo hoo:laugh:

LngPrmsdRd
01-07-2003, 01:57 AM
I agree with Storms and Beautiful Child for sure...especially from Storms...the chorus...

Every hour of
Fear I spend
My body tries to cry
Living through each
Empty night
A deadly call inside...

That just gives me the chills. I always listen to this when I feel like I need a good cry...'cause it never fails to get me going!! I've felt like that too many times not to be affected by it. The whole darn song though. Beautiful Child...the ending...

I'm not a child, I know
I will do as I'm told
Even if I never hold you...again...

Ever had to say goodbye when all you wanted was to stay? That's it, right there.

~Bree

bookie29
01-07-2003, 01:58 PM
The saddest lyric for me is on If You Ever Did Believe.

You've left me now
and it's seasoned my soul
And with every step you take,
I watch another part of you go...

I continue to build a wall...
You were so strong,
I fell to my knees...
And I don't think I can handle this at all

Also the part at the end where she repeats "baby don't leave me, I'm down on my knees".

This just kills me because I have been there before.

Sean

crystal_nicks
01-07-2003, 11:26 PM
- "the timeless face of a rock and roll woman while her heart breaks... the dream keeps coming even when you forget to feel"

- "I would be your only dream - your shining over oceans crashing"

it just sounds like she so desperately wants to be EVERYTHING to someone, and damn, don't we all know how she feels...

- basically all of storms (that song gets me ALWAYS) but particularly: "I should have known from the first - I'd be the broken hearted - but I loved you from the start - save us...
and not all the prayers in the world could save us"

- and also Beautiful Child in itself...

Ashley :woohoo:

Musicman408
01-19-2007, 07:42 PM
I definitely agree with the Tower....truly sad.

Also the lyric from "Ghosts":

"To feel the empty spaces she's feeling
She depends on her music like a husband
And she knows it's no good to fall in love again"

This kills me every time I hear it.

Me too.... To me OSOTM lyrics are absolutely AMAZING!!!

BlackWidow
01-19-2007, 09:40 PM
From Storms:

"Every night that goes between, I feel a little less
As you slowly go away from me, this is only another test..."

"So I try to say goodbye my friend, I'd like to leave you with something warm
For never have I been a blue-calm sea, I have always been a storm..."

"Everynight he will break your heart, I should have known from the first, I'd be the broken hearted,
But I loved you from the start..."

This song kills me.

Kristin

I agree......

BlackWidow
01-19-2007, 10:14 PM
oh every thing on space needle. most stevie songs have some feeling of hope on them but this one doesnt i cried the forst time i heard it. ive heard its about kurt cobain (RIP) and all that. oh god its depressing tear...

omg!!! blackwidower???? :distress: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

TpaDavid
01-19-2007, 10:39 PM
Life gave me you : the change was made ...
and there is no beginning over ...
You are not happy ...but what is love ?
Hate gave you me for a lover .....

Nicks Fan
01-19-2007, 11:13 PM
I thik Storms is a reall tear jerker. But I laso find It's only love to be pretty sad.

You were master of so many
But savior to none
I waged all of my hopes so plenty
On you, now look what I've become

Someday's lonely is not only
A word, but faces I have known
And if you see me, could you free me
With a smile, so I can let go

Matt

NicksforLife
01-20-2007, 05:46 AM
Some of my favorite tear jerkers:

"Goodbye baby
I hope your heart's not broken
Don't forget me
Yes I was outspoken
You were with me all the time
I'll be with you one day"

This came out on SYW right at the time when my Grandmother passed away.
We were very close, and I always think of her when I hear it.
God's Garden also reminds me of her:nod:
------------
"Oh who is the beauty...who the beast
Would you die of grieving when I leave
Two children too blind to see
I would fall in your shadow...I believe"

My all time favorite tear jerker.
----------------
"I'm tall enough
To reach the stars
I'm old enough
To love you from afar....I wish that you were mine"

Been there.
-----------
"In my distress...well I wanted someone to blame me
In my devastation...I wanted so to change
In my way...disaster was the only thing that I could depend on..."

Been there too!
-------------
"In your darkest sorrow
Did you ever hear me sing?"

Yes, yes I have!
-------
Jane, also has special, personal meaning for me that always chokes me up too.
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"And now the tears...dry my face...
And leave behind them only ashes
And the beauty of you was just a dream...
Memories, earthquakes, and flashes..."

Is that just beautifully sad or what? :shrug:

Well I could go on, and on, but better stop now!

BlackWidow
01-20-2007, 09:52 AM
- "the timeless face of a rock and roll woman while her heart breaks... the dream keeps coming even when you forget to feel"

- "I would be your only dream - your shining over oceans crashing"

it just sounds like she so desperately wants to be EVERYTHING to someone, and damn, don't we all know how she feels...

- basically all of storms (that song gets me ALWAYS) but particularly: "I should have known from the first - I'd be the broken hearted - but I loved you from the start - save us...
and not all the prayers in the world could save us"

- and also Beautiful Child in itself...

Ashley :woohoo:

The lyrics are "Your shining autumn, Oceans crashing..."

catinthedark
01-20-2007, 12:42 PM
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"And now the tears...drown my face...
And leave behind them only ashes
And the beauty of you was just a dream...
Memories, earthquakes, and flashes..."

Is that just beautifully sad or what?



i was going to say "mistaken love" as well. it's always been my favourite tear-jerker. mostly just for the fragility of her voice on it, too. sniff.

i think the line is:

And now the tears dry on my face
And leave behind them only ashes...

TheWILDheart
01-20-2007, 02:23 PM
Could someone please send me Space Needle. I've never heard it:(. The Tower I've never even heard OF! Damn SSSOOO many demo's...so little time :laugh:

ryan8472
01-20-2007, 02:37 PM
Whoa bump! :eek: :laugh: This threads from even before my time. :laugh:

I would deff. say Storms is her saddest song.

NicksforLife
01-20-2007, 04:33 PM
i was going to say "mistaken love" as well. it's always been my favourite tear-jerker. mostly just for the fragility of her voice on it, too. sniff.

i think the line is:

And now the tears dry on my face
And leave behind them only ashes...


Right you are! I was being a bit lazy and copy/pasted the lyrics. Guess I didn't proof read as well as I thought.
I fixed my post, couldn't let that error go uncorrected, it's too beautiful of a line to be messing up :nod:

elie
01-20-2007, 06:58 PM
Beautiful child:
'Your eyes say yes but you don't say yes
I wish that you were mine"

Storms:
"But never have I been a blue calm sea
I've always been a storm"

Sara:
"Where everyone would love to drown
But now it's gone
It doesn't matter anymore".

BlackWidow
01-20-2007, 09:14 PM
Whoa bump! :eek: :laugh: This threads from even before my time. :laugh:

I would deff. say Storms is her saddest song.

yep..STORMS..hands down.:nod:

UndoingTheLaces
01-21-2007, 05:59 AM
I think the absolute saddest lyric that Stevie has is from Beautiful Child...

"You say it will be harder in the morning... I wait for you to say just go... your hands held mine so few hours..."

I also love Rose Garden where she sings about having men, money and acres of land... "all these things but a small gold band... on my finger... on my left hand". That song always makes me cry because of the lost love and also because being a gay man I am not allowed to get married here in the US and the idea that I can have almost anything I want as long as I work hard enough for it but cannot marry really makes me sad.

Also, there's a version of Sara from the Tusk tour from Cleveland that always gets me. It's actually a pretty bad version of the song, Stevie is off in a bunch of places, missed cues, flat vocals, it's a bit of a mess until the end where she sings "it never really died.. no it never really died... oh it was such a heartbeat". I had a friend pass on last year and as I was driving to his memorial I just happened to be listening to that version and when that part came on I had to pull over because I couldn't stop crying. There's just something so sorrowful in the way she sings that one line and it just gets me every time.

catinthedark
01-21-2007, 11:28 AM
I also love Rose Garden where she sings about having men, money and acres of land... "all these things but a small gold band... on my finger... on my left hand". That song always makes me cry because of the lost love and also because being a gay man I am not allowed to get married here in the US and the idea that I can have almost anything I want as long as I work hard enough for it but cannot marry really makes me sad.



come north, young man! :)

seriously, if you come to canada and get married, is your marriage recognized in the US? in california?

UndoingTheLaces
01-21-2007, 02:14 PM
come north, young man! :)

seriously, if you come to canada and get married, is your marriage recognized in the US? in california?

Oh, I'm single but I'm talking about wanting to get married someday. But I do have a friend who had been married for several years in Canada but recently moved to the US and now his marriage doesn't count here. Can you imagine being with someone for years and then to be told by the government that your marriage doesn't exist?