any hope for "try for the sun" ?

[BigAl84]

I reaaaaaaaally have always loved this song. Lindsey's guitar arrangement is awesome. I know the lyrics are hard to hear...but they could clean that up. To me, this song always seemed to be more of a "peacekeeper" type song...any thoughts??

Alex

[BlueGrass]

Yeah, I agree. Maybe this is "Peacekeeper" because the lyrics do seem to relate to 9/11.

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by BlueGrass
Yeah, I agree. Maybe this is "Peacekeeper" because the lyrics do seem to relate to 9/11.

Despite its non-Peacekeeperness, I really hope Try for the Sun makes it. However, my true favorite is Deep Dense. Awesome song.

[seteca]

I'm very sure Try For The Sun will make it.....if you remember Mick's description of LB's songs on the new album...he said something like "Lindsey's working with a lot acoustic guitar layers on his songs"....."Try For The Sun" fits perfectly into that description, as does "Say Goodbye", which I absolutely love, and hope makes the album aswell.

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[stefan]

I don't understand you. You really like to get songs on the new album that you already know instead of new material???
If I had the choice the entire stuff would be totally new. Any different thougts on that? Bye, S

[seteca]

Originally posted by stefan
I don't understand you. You really like to get songs on the new album that you already know instead of new material???
If I had the choice the entire stuff would be totally new. Any different thougts on that? Bye, S

I think the general feeling is that GOS will most likely never see the light of day as an LB solo album, so, assuming that that is indeed the case, we're saying which songs we hope will be released as proper (i.e. non-demo) versions, which the rest of the world outside of FM-fandom can also get to enjoy.

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[BigAl84]

There are some GREAT songs from the gift of screws sessions that if stevie were to put her voice on...it would be a knock out. Yeh so we've "heard" the song before...but to hear the final version with the entire mac...is a much different thing. Its obvious that there will be songs that we havnt heard before and it would be dumb as hell for lindsey to ditch any of the gift of screw tracks, its some of his best work-imo.

Alex

[BigAl84]

Technicly speaking, none of us are even suppose to have heard any GOS tracks...the only reason most of us were able to hear them is because they leaked out. I don't expect lindsey to just let those GOS tracks just sit and rot, i think they deffinitely have a place on the record. I just hope for good balance between the GOS tracks, new tracks, etc. It's a double album, so hopefully were talking about 15-18 songs per disc, so there is allot of room.

[wondergirl9847]

I'm gonna get flogged by Matt (and many others apprarently) for saying this, but I've never loved TFTS much...don't get me wrong, the GUITAR PLAYING is AMAZING....I just kinda tend to skip it sometimes when playing GOS. If it DOES show up on the new album, I hope it's cleaned up and tweaked...maybe I will grow to love it. :shrug:

** Before you ask....NO, I WILL NOT turn in my Lindsey RULES card for saying this!! :laugh:

I DO love Family Man and not many do...so there. LOL

[Jessica Leigh]

hey guys... Try For The Sun is NOT Peacekeeper... it is Try For The Sun! remember? by Donovan? this is a cover guys!!

[chiliD]

Thank you for beating me to it...now *I* don't have to be the "heavy" yet again! ;)

And, yes "Try For The Sun" DOES fit Mick's description, but so does "Red Rover", too. :nod:

[Street_Dreamer]

Nah, not going to get you Christy. But I will say that the instrumental version of Try For The Sun is awesome. It worked perfectly in a "documentary" I did for a class last year. :)

Matt


Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I'm gonna get flogged by Matt (and many others apprarently) for saying this, but I've never loved TFTS much...don't get me wrong, the GUITAR PLAYING is AMAZING....I just kinda tend to skip it sometimes when playing GOS. If it DOES show up on the new album, I hope it's cleaned up and tweaked...maybe I will grow to love it. :shrug:

** Before you ask....NO, I WILL NOT turn in my Lindsey RULES card for saying this!! :laugh:

I DO love Family Man and not many do...so there. LOL

[Jessica Leigh]

Originally posted by chiliD
Thank you for beating me to it...now *I* don't have to be the "heavy" yet again! ;)

And, yes "Try For The Sun" DOES fit Mick's description, but so does "Red Rover", too. :nod:

lol np...

honestly guys i think peacekeeper is a song that is new... NOT a gos demo... i don't think lindsey would go for the "lets turn lindsey's solo album into the new fm album" again... i think he really really wants to do his solo album too...

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally posted by Jessica Leigh


lol np...

honestly guys i think peacekeeper is a song that is new... NOT a gos demo...


Yeah or another person's song as you reminded ppl. But the fact Donovan never released it (?correct?) might help, as it is so awesome the way Lindsey does it I'd hate not to hear it done all nice-like for the album.


Originally posted by Jessica Leigh


i don't think lindsey would go for the "lets turn lindsey's solo album into the new fm album" again... i think he really really wants to do his solo album too...


Now that's thin ice I think! 'Don't see it happening'!!:confused: :wavey: My point is that new FM Lindsey has fashioned, there is no need (or time) for concerted solo efforts. I'm not discounting Lindsey Going Solo, I'm saying that at this time the best of Lindsey is this amazing setup. The facst that Gift of Screws, Come, god knows what else will be in the record ... there will be no artistic comprimise in the material.

[Jessica Leigh]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo


Yeah or another person's song as you reminded ppl. But the fact Donovan never released it (?correct?) might help, as it is so awesome the way Lindsey does it I'd hate not to hear it done all nice-like for the album.

from what i know he did release it...



Now that's thin ice I think! 'Don't see it happening'!!:confused: :wavey: My point is that new FM Lindsey has fashioned, there is no need (or time) for concerted solo efforts. I'm not discounting Lindsey Going Solo, I'm saying that at this time the best of Lindsey is this amazing setup. The facst that Gift of Screws, Come, god knows what else will be in the record ... there will be no artistic comprimise in the material.

okay sure

[John Run]

I really doubt that you will see the cover songs that Lindsey did over the last 7 years on the album. I may be wrong but, I would imagine that the band feels that after such a long hiatus from releasing original material to release an album with multiple tunes penned by other artists and previously released is not the direction they want to go in. I do expect a number of the songs we have heard will be on the album. Some might not be different at all, some may be drastically different, and some may not sound all that different but have been reworked. (Think Steal your Heart Away circa 1997 to the version we heard in 2002). Remember many of the GOS songs had Mick and John on them when they were recording the material for the solo project. I doubt all these songs got redone just because it was now a Fleetwood Mac project. The GOS songs are much more complete than demos, as they are so often referred to here. Many sound like mixed tracks, that have not been mastered. Mastering is the final step of the creative process and the lack of mastering is what accounts for many of the volume irregularities you hear on the tracks. The fingerpicking acoustic stuff is covered without cover tunes, listen to Red Rover, Say Goodbye, Murrow, and Miranda. With all that said I fully expect there are Lindsey tunes we have never heard on the album.

[DownOnRodeo]

I agree with everything you said John Run. But it would be good to hope for some sort of Stevie vocal input on Lindsey's songs so as not to have the striking division of talent Tusk was (perhaps unjustly) decried for. In that case we, as ppl who have gotten familiar with the GOS suite, might hope for at least some of those songs to resurface but augmented into something a cut above.

[BigAl84]

I've really been hoping stevie gets a chance to put her vocals on lindsey's songs, especially some of the GOS tracks that will make it on the album. If they don't i fear the album could be very divided ...like tusk in that sense.

Alex

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by Jessica Leigh
don't think lindsey would go for the "lets turn lindsey's solo album into the new fm album" again... i think he really really wants to do his solo album too...

I wish, but I've reconciled myself to the fact that this is never gonna happen. If he was going to do it, he would have done it already. He had golden opportunities in 1997, 1998 or even as late as this past year, but no dice. It's been TEN YEARS since OOTC, only one of which was spent with FM (so much for the "he gave up his solo career for FM"). Look at Stevie, she dedicated more time to FM and still whipped out the solo albums right and left. Apparently many of those GOS demos were from 1995, which means he'd had enough material for 7 years minimum..still, nada, for all this time, despite a ridiculous amount of "it's comings". I for one have stopped getting my hopes up.

Like I said, it just ain't gonna happen.

But, hey, I hope I'm wrong. Just don't hold your breath.

[Jessica Leigh]

Originally posted by sodascouts


I wish, but I've reconciled myself to the fact that this is never gonna happen. If he was going to do it, he would have done it already. He had golden opportunities in 1997, 1998 or even as late as this past year, but no dice. It's been TEN YEARS since OOTC, only one of which was spent with FM (so much for the "he gave up his solo career for FM"). Look at Stevie, she dedicated more time to FM and still whipped out the solo albums right and left. Apparently many of those GOS demos were from 1995, which means he'd had enough material for 7 years minimum..still, nada, for all this time, despite a ridiculous amount of "it's comings". I for one have stopped getting my hopes up.

Like I said, it just ain't gonna happen.

But, hey, I hope I'm wrong. Just don't hold your breath.

but also in those years as you said... stevie was doing HER solo stuff...so they didn't have time to do fm stuff... so what if it takes lindsey longer than her to put out a solo album... all i am saying is that i AM holding my breath.. and even though im begining to turn blue.. i'm still holding my breath... i have more faith in lindsey than i think most of us are allowing the record companies to give him. (crossing my fingers)

[DownOnRodeo]

I maintain my theory that Lindsey is not the kind of person who needs to put out a solo album for some sort of personal, career or financial satisfaction - let me hasten to add, in the context of these days anyway. And furthermore, I know I won't need to look beyond the new album for the very best Lindsey is gonna give us. I don't see a holds barred approach in production that should make a solo album at all wanting. I'm still thinking of the album as a largely half Stevie/half Lindsey double album btw.