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[FiercestCalmSea]

I just got mine in the mail..it is short so i am just gonna type it here:

Fleetwood Mac are at work inside a rented Bel-Air home recording their next album.Despite the departure of long-standing member Christine McVie,the remaining four,Stevie Nicks,Lindsey Buckingham,John McVie,and Mick FLeetwood seem in good spirits."As much as we miss Christine personally,I don't think there is anything missing musically" says Buckigham.
New tracks for the album include Nick's haunting "Thrown Down" and Buckingham's potent "Peacekeeper".The new set is currently untitled-recent suggestions include Infatuation(Nicks' suggestion after a recent dream) and Gift Of Screws.

[Johnny Stew]

Cool news... thanks for posting that!

I'm psyched to see that Lindsey has at least one new track (beyond the 'Gift Of Screws' tunes that we've all been assuming will be there).

"Peacekeeper," eh?
I doubt this one's autobiographical. ;)

I'm also really pleased that we have official confirmation that "Thrown Down" was recorded. This one has had Fleetwood Mac written all over it, since the first time I heard it.

As for album titles... I hope they abandon 'Gift Of Screws.'
I liked it as the title for Lindsey's solo album, but I'm not sure if I dig it as a Mac title.
Not too sure I'm all that crazy about 'Infatuation' either... but that one might grow on me.

Thanks again for posting that.
:)


Johnny Stew

[BlueGrass]

WOW. This is the best news I've heard bout the album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by FiercestCalmSea
New tracks for the album include Nick's haunting "Thrown Down" and Buckingham's potent "Peacekeeper".The new set is currently untitled-recent suggestions include Infatuation(Nicks' suggestion after a recent dream) and Gift Of Screws.

I guess we know that at least one Buckingham demo is gonna be on there - good old GOS. However, I'm with Johnny - I hope they don't use that for the album title. It seems like they should come up with one that's more representative of the whole group than naming it what Lindsey's solo album would have been called.

Still, "Infatuation" sounds kind of girly-twirly. lol Why doesn't John McVie come up with a good one again?

By the way, I love it when albums aren't titled after songs a la Mirage and Rumours. It's more fun that way.

[wondergirl9847]

YAY: I love the fact that there is a Lindsey song we may not have heard!! :] I just hope it's not an alternate title to a GOS song!! LMAO!! That would SUCK!! I know all Stevie fans are gonna be SO excited about Thrown Down...although it's not my fave demo, maybe Lindsey can turn it into magic like Gypsy!! :nod:

BOO: Infatuation and GOS!! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! GOS is LINDSEY....and Infatuation???? What does that have to do with FM or the songs?? :confused:

**Yes, let's not use a song title, I like using titles like Mirage and Rumours too, it's cool! I'll bet John would come up with a great title!!

[Grainuaile]

Well, put me down as another one who doesn't want it to be called Gift of Screws! :lol: Or Infatuation, for that matter.

I'm so happy about this news! This makes the new album seem tangible, and we know they aren't pulling our leg.

Thanks for posting this! :)

[DownOnRodeo]

I've always likeed GOS as title, but I agree that something (a) more representative (b) non-track and vague like Mirage, would be great.

I don't know why but I just really like Infatuation. Probably becuase that desribes my feelings about the Mac!

Or after reading the first RS post, maybe it's Stevie having a nightmare about the studio-house kitchen, with the weat things and licorice. In-fat-uation! Lol!!

As much as we miss Christine personally,I don't think there is anything missing musically"

Fair enough, as Christine left the bulk of arrangement and production etc to Lindsey. But, I dunno, it kinda stings. But I shouldn;t take t out of context; Lindsey was obviously saying it in response to the interviewer on the defensive about the absence of Christine's Hitmaking golden touch. At least with lyrics and vocals. ("Darghggh get over it Joe!!" I'm out of my mind....)

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
YAY: I love the fact that there is a Lindsey song we may not have heard!! :] I just hope it's not an alternate title to a GOS song!! LMAO!! That would SUCK!!

Yeah i don't know why but I get that impression too hey, Christy. I could see it as a title for 'Shuffle Riff'.:confused:

[seteca]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
.....I know all Stevie fans are gonna be SO excited about Thrown Down...although it's not my fave demo, maybe Lindsey can turn it into magic like Gypsy!!...

I totally agree. "Thrown Down" is very good, but it doesn't (IMHO) have that signature Mac-ness about it........yet.;)

I hope LB Gypsy-fies it.:D

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

p.s. Love your new sig. line Down On Rodeo! Very cool...very cool indeed!:cool:

[DownOnRodeo]

lol! Thanks Seteca. It's obviously a reference to Mac Album fever.;) I have this thing of only having questions from lyrics as my sig. There's actually not that many!:distress:

[Rumours]

Infatuation.....from a dream.......I wonder what the hell kind of a dream SHE was having that night!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!

Nah, I don't like either title really....keep thinkin' folks!!!

So happy to see that "Thrown Down" made it on this album. I'm psyched to hear what they were able to do with it!!!

And who exactly IS the "Peacekeeper"???!!!!???? LOL

Stephanie

[Cristian]

Originally posted by FiercestCalmSea
"As much as we miss Christine personally,I don't think there is anything missing musically" says Buckingham.
OK, am I the only one who thought this sentence was at least a little weird? Perhaps I'm being too paranoid.


Song of the moment - Alice

[FiercestCalmSea]

Eh,i dunno about weird,per se,it just depends on how you see it....I mean sure there is something missing with her gone..but FM certainly ain't gonna crumble without her there.To be honest i think he answered in a very fair way,seeing as she opted out of it,what else can they really do but go on without her.

[EnchantedStorms]

Originally posted by Rumours
And who exactly IS the "Peacekeeper"???!!!!???? LOL

Stephanie


lol!! Ummm....."High priestess...she's the keeper of the peace in this..." hehehehehe! :angel:


Yeah. Um...I don't really care for them, either. Infatuation is better than GOS...but probably just because I've got that cd of Lindsey demos...THAT'S Gift of Screws, to me.


~~Angela~~:wavey:

[BlueGrass]

I think why people are not liking the new record to be called GOS is cause it is so associated with just Lindsey. When you think about it, the meaning relates to everyone in the band...

Gift of screws means enduring troubles, pain, heartache etc to find who your are, and what is important to you. That's what I think, and it fits each memeber of the band if you think about it because everyone now seems to be at peace; after all the drama in the past.

[macfan 57]

Cristian is not the only one to think of Lindsey's quote about Christine as being a little strange. That's the first thing I thought of when I read it.

And, I don't mind the Gift Of Screws title. That way at least there will be an officially released Gift Of Screws album, regardless of what name they put on the album.

[nodmod]

Originally posted by FiercestCalmSea
Fleetwood Mac are at work inside a rented Bel-Air home recording their next album.Despite the departure of long-standing member Christine McVie,the remaining four,Stevie Nicks,Lindsey Buckingham,John McVie,and Mick FLeetwood seem in good spirits."As much as we miss Christine personally,I don't think there is anything missing musically" says Buckigham.
New tracks for the album include Nick's haunting "Thrown Down" and Buckingham's potent "Peacekeeper".The new set is currently untitled-recent suggestions include Infatuation(Nicks' suggestion after a recent dream) and Gift Of Screws.

Interesting news regarding Peacekeeper, I seem to remember the guy who gave us the scoop on TISL saying that Peacekeeper would be the first song released to radio.

This was way over a year ago!!

[DownOnRodeo]

Thanks Neil!

Something unheard would be good, but if it was 'Shuffle Riff' that'd rock so much.

[nodmod]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Something unheard would be good, but if it was 'Shuffle Riff' that'd rock so much.

I've heard Shuffle Riff referred to as "Hit and Run".

The alt fleetwood mac news group has a discussion about Peacekeeper going on, seems this track turned up on a Reprise sampler CD in 2001!!

Why oh why has this track not been seen in the trading community? unless of course it is a re-named GOS song!!

[wetcamelfood]

Originally posted by nodmod
The alt fleetwood mac news group has a discussion about Peacekeeper going on, seems this track turned up on a Reprise sampler CD in 2001

Hmm, I'm not big on lyrics myself so maybe someone could help me here, does LB say the word "peacekeeper" anywhere in "Someone's gotta change your mind"? I would imagine the "Music from the GLAAD awards" deal might be classed as a "sampler" CD and I thought maybe LB has "changed HIS mind" about the title of that song?! Just a thought. :)

John

[Les]

Thanks for posting this bit of news! Nice to hear some little details here and there.

The comment on Christine... well, I don't really think that anything the remaining band members can say is going to really sit wonderfully with those who are predominantly Christine fans. It's sort of unavoidable when a band moves on without someone. I think the fans of all the past members who have gone have felt a certain twinge when reading the comments from the remaining members about moving ahead.

Hi John, nope, no "peacekeeper" in Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind. ;)

[ricohv]

Why is it that I just cannot grasp the meaning of the name Gift Of Screws? (maybe because I really haven't heard those demos all that much) ..but it just puts a weird picture in my mind (like so much about Lindsey does to me) ..but is there some deeper meaning to this name that I don't get?

I agree with everyone who thinks a title that has nothing to do with the songs. Maybe: "Two Sticks and a Drum, and a Bass Guitar and a Guitar and a Tambourine"

[madformac]

Originally posted by Rumours
And who exactly IS the "Peacekeeper"???!!!!???? LOL

Stephanie

Well I don't think it was written about George "W" Bush anyway!

:laugh: :laugh: ;)

I still think Twist Of Fate should be the album title, just seems right to me.

:wavey: :wavey:

[Sorcerer386]

The comment on Christine... well, I don't really think that anything the remaining band members can say is going to really sit wonderfully with those who are predominantly Christine fans. It's sort of unavoidable when a band moves on without someone. I think the fans of all the past members who have gone have felt a certain twinge when reading the comments from the remaining members about moving ahead.

This is a very good point, I just want to add to it. The remaining members of Fleetwood Mac can't very well say "Christine's gone, so we don't sound as good anymore, but buy our album anyway." Whether they believe it or not, they have to say things like "There's nothing missing musically." And maybe with the songs they chose, there isn't. But that's neither here nor there. My point is that they are going to have to say that they are still a great band with or without Christine, just as they did when Lindsey left and Billy and Rick joined. I remember reading a Stevie interview around 1990 saying how excited she was because all the tension was gone and it was just a better creative atmosphere, and that the band is great with or without Lindsey. Now, I hate to compare it to Behind the Mask as that album didn't fare very well under Fleetwood Mac standards as far as selling goes (only went Gold), but that's the only comparison I know to make (I don't know much pre-Buckingham Nicks information). But like Les said, there are gonna be people who get rubbed the wrong way by the comments...I'm sure it happened from Peter Green all the way up until now. These comments are necessary though to promote the album and say the band is still good enough to buy the album.

[golddustwoman77]

I'm personally not crazy about either title for the new album, but at least the Infatuation title is new. It still doesn't hit me right though. It makes me think of that Rod Stewart song from the 80s. :laugh: I really think it needs to be something that is Fleetwood Mac as a group, not from something that is tied only to Lindsey and his solo career. Gift of Screws has already been used in a way. It would be the same thing if they were wanting to call the album-- After the Glitter Fades or something like that. That is tied to Stevie. It needs to be something fresh to show their fresh start without Christine in the group.

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[seteca]

Originally posted by madformac


Well I don't think it was written about George "W" Bush anyway!

I still think Twist Of Fate should be the album title, just seems right to me.



lol!!:laugh: Well said!

I agree that Twist Of Fate is a perfect name for the album. It just makes perfect sense, and it sounds really Mac-ish aswell.

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[jwd]

Well we certainly know it doesn't refer to Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, al-Qaida, or all the other fanatical terrorists out there...including the "sniper" on the loose.

God help us all!!

I for one support my president, George W. Bush, and if he has to use military tactics to preserve peace and freedom in the world...so be it! Maybe he is the "peacekeeper"!

I really hate to get political on these boards but I felt compelled to voice my opinion.


Joe

[wondergirl9847]

When I first read Peacekeeper, like chilid, I thought of Murrow. That song kicks butt, but I don't know how it would sound as FM...I can't imagine it.

[jwys_soapbox]

I don't really care what they call the album. Gift of Screws is nice because it relates to my major in American Lit. In case nobody knows, the phrase (and the chorus of the song) are by Emily Dickinson. The complete poems is...

#675 by Emily Dickinson

Essential Oils--are wrung--
The Attar from the Rose
Be not expressed by Suns--alone--
It is the gift of Screws--

The General Rose--decay--
But this--in Lady's Drawer
Make Summer--When the Lady lie
In Ceaseless Rosemary--


John

[madformac]

Originally posted by jwd


I for one support my president, George W. Bush, and if he has to use military tactics to preserve peace and freedom in the world...so be it! Maybe he is the "peacekeeper"!

I really hate to get political on these boards but I felt compelled to voice my opinion.


Joe

Well, I'm not a political animal usually however the current global situation has changed that to a degree. Do yourself a favour and ignore CNN and all the other channels and newspapers that are lead and fed by the governments of the "civilised" countries and visit www.janes.com

A site more directly connected with the intelligence communities themselves plus it is all factual. Read the articles and you may begin to question if military tactics are the best method, especially in Iraq.

Of course you are entitled to back your president, just be careful what your eyes and ears take in.....

End of rant. :D

:wavey:

[Cristian]

Originally posted by Sorcerer386
[Bthere are gonna be people who get rubbed the wrong way by the comments...I'm sure it happened from Peter Green all the way up until now. These comments are necessary though to promote the album and say the band is still good enough to buy the album. [/B]I was surely not "rubbed the wrong way" by the comment... I saw a (understandable from the commercial point of view) degree of underrating Christine's contributions to the musical sound of the band... kind of implying it. That's why I wanted to hear more interpretations about it from fans of Lindsey or Stevie. Being a Christine fan myself, it was easy for me to just take the comment and think it was a Christine-bashing think or whatever. I now see it as a commercial movement (Sorcerer had a great point of view in this) and, even though I'm still amazed at some point by the comment, I understand it more now.

And of course they need to move on, as they have moved on with all of the previous departures. That's what Fleetwood Mac is about isn't it. :)


Song of the moment - In The Back Of My Mind

[jwd]

Sorry folks.......

Posted by madformac: just be careful what your eyes and ears take in.....

May I suggest the same advice to you.


Hussein is a ruthless, maniacal, delusional dictator who practices Stalinesque tactics, oppresses his own people, and doesn't think twice about using weapons of mass destruction of which he obviously has. He has violated numerous UN conditions of which he agreed to after Iraq was defeated in the Gulf War. The man's mission on this planet is to destroy the state of Israel and anyone/thing/state that gets in his way....the Islamic Savior/Knight. If he doesn't have weapons of mass destruction, then why doesn't he let the inspectors back in to look without conditions.

He invaded Kuwait, he "gassed" the Kurds(Iraqis)......fact? I think so.

Plain and simple...Hussein complies to the UN stipulations or face the consequences...having his weapons of mass destruction removed by force for the safety and peace of the free world.

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I don't like either GOS or Infatuation for the name of the next FM release. I think they should simply entitle it Fleetwood Mac with a black cover and I think in a few years we could all refer to it as "The Black Album". :laugh:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------DOWN WITH HUSSEIN, DOWN WITH AL-QAIDA, DOWN WITH TERRORISM


Joe

[madformac]

Originally posted by jwd
Sorry folks.......



Hussein is a ruthless, maniacal, delusional dictator who practices Stalinesque tactics, oppresses his own people, and doesn't think twice about using weapons of mass destruction of which he obviously has. He has violated numerous UN conditions of which he agreed to after Iraq was defeated in the Gulf War. The man's mission on this planet is to destroy the state of Israel and anyone/thing/state that gets in his way....the Islamic Savior/Knight. If he doesn't have weapons of mass destruction, then why doesn't he let the inspectors back in to look without conditions.

He invaded Kuwait, he "gassed" the Kurds(Iraqis)......fact? I think so.

Joe

I quite agree with you but to eliminate the leader of a country that has faced 40 years of oppression the problem of what to do once the regime has been removed is one that is only now being addressed. It would be unwise in the extreme to proceed with a military campaign before these crucial questions have been resolved. If you remove a nasty, evil but entirely predictable and relatively stable leader, who knows who and what will follow? It is realistically possible to unleash an even more savage beast than Hussein.

It's 2:50am and time for bed. No more politics for me! :laugh:

Goodnight. :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by Cristian
I saw a (understandable from the commercial point of view) degree of underrating Christine's contributions to the musical sound of the band... kind of implying it.
Being a Christine fan myself, it was easy for me to just take the comment and think it was a Christine-bashing think or whatever.Hi Cristian...
I didn't see Lindsey's comments as being disrespectful fo Christine in any way.
For me, the implication was that the band has compensated for the loss musically... even though they still very much miss her as a friend.

They're certainly not going to leave a gaping hole in the Mac sound, where Christine's keyboards & vocals would have been... so it seems like a very honest statement to me.


:)
Johnny Stew

[DownOnRodeo]

Ah, I should've seen Peacekeeper as being Murrow rather than Shuffle Riff. 'Hit and Run' is great!! That makes sense with the lyrics. I just love how apart from the fantastic music of the GOS catalogue it's just all so fresh, edgy, inspired and unique.

But Murrow as the first radio single?? Hmm... Relevant perhaps, but musically - :distress: ;) :wavey:

[Skylark]

Oh, I thought he meant in the studio!;) haha!

ps...I do think Murrow is political as Peacekeeper
may be...anyone hear it yet? Tell us today! Sky:)