The # Of NEW Lindsey Songs On The New FM Record?

[BlueGrass]

Many people have been guessing which songs from his GOS sessions will make the new album. I would guess these would be on the new album...

Come
Down On Rodeo
Miranda
Murrow
Red Rover
Say Goodbye
Twist Of Fate


At the same time I hope we get NEW Lindsey songs, and not just his GOS ones redone. What do youy think? How many NEW, NEW LB songs will we get?

[seteca]

Twist Of Fate
Murrow
Miranda
Shuffle Riff
Come
Deep Dense
Gift Of Screws
Try For The Sun
Steal Your Heart Away
Down On Rodeo
Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind
Red Rover
Say Goodbye

+ 3 "new" ones (at the most!)...

....remove the Stones covers and the three Dance songs (GI, BTLH, MLD)....and there ya have it...!

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[BlueGrass]

You really think only three?

Some of these songs date BEFORE "The Dance," so wouldn't Lindsey wanna record mnay new ones for the record? Instead of using songs that are over 5 years old.

[seteca]

Originally posted by BlueGrass
You really think only three?

Some of these songs date BEFORE "The Dance," so wouldn't Lindsey wanna record mnay new ones for the record? Instead of using songs that are over 5 years old.

I really do think this "double album" is going to be "Gift Of Screws Album" + "Stevie's New FM Songs".....IMO all of the "original" songs from Gift Of Screws are too good for Lindsey to let go, so I think we will see them on the new album. I think the songs I've mentioned above come to about 50 mins, so I really don't think we're going to see that many more "new" LB songs. Maybe a couple of co-written LB/SN songs, which would be awesome.

Mick's description of LB's songs on the album ("lots of fingerpicking" and "hard rock" and "guitar layering") clearly suggests he's made heavy use of the GOS material......

In an interview ages ago I seem to remember Lindsey said that he has more than an album's worth of material finished, he just has to make the decision about whether to "let it out there" under the name "Lindsey Buckingham" (and possibly commit commercial suicide as a "50 year old up against people like Britney Spears") or to make use of the name "Fleetwood Mac" to ensure that it gets proper attention.

Well, I think it's safe to say he's made his choice! And IMO it was the totally right one!

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[BlueGrass]

Why doesn't anyone ever mention "Given Thing" or "Deep Dense"? IS this not considered a part of GOS?

[chiliD]

Seteca listed "Deep Dense"...you just must've missed it. ;)

I think when the new album comes out, we're going to be a bit dissapointed...for the simple reason that ALL of Lindsey's songs will be MORE than familar to us...after hearing the slight differences in arrangement between what we've got on the GoS tunes and what Lindsey deems is the final version* will all we'll have to look forward to.

*= as in the differences between the Best Buy CD version of "Steal Your Heart Away" and the GoS version of "Steal Your Heart Away"...they're much different, but only if you listen VERY carefully.

[BlueGrass]

Yeah, your right about SYHA. The vocals and guitar are slightly different.

[BigAl84]

Im really hoping that when they put lindsey's GOS songs on the record that they add stevies harmony to atleast some of them. I think that if they didnt do that...it could dangeriously divide the album into not sounding like a mac album...but instead 15 lindsey songs and 15 stevie songs...and no colaboration. I've always like the collaboration between stevie and lindsey on each others songs. I've always liked the fact that on rumours and tusk...even mirage...that you can hear stevie or chris even on lindsey's songs or vise versa. What does everyone think?

Alex

[chiliD]

Since Lindsey usually uses the VCO to speed up his voice to where he seems to get a "Stevie-like" tone to his background vocals ANYWAY, for Stevie to go in an overdub her voice singing those parts on Lindsey's tunes should be a slam-dunk.

You can rest assured that Lindsey's presence will be well-felt on Stevie's tunes. :)

Just HOW much Stevie's voice will show up on Lindsey's tunes will probably depend on which tunes of Lindsey's make the album. If he knocks us off our stools and has a number of songs that are post-GoS, the chances of Stevie's contributions will increase dramatically, I would think.

I don't think we have anything to worry about with it "sounding like Fleetwood Mac" :nod:

[BigAl84]

good point chiliD. .

I have never liked the tango in the night album for the exact reason that the album is so divided. The tracks that were originally lindsey solo tracks are so obvious. There is hardly any callaboration (i cant spell today..i think i've spelled that a dozen different ways so far) on tango besides seven wonders etc etc. I hope they go back to the true buckingham nicks harmonies that they have been talking about. It will be different and intresting to hear how their voices sound overlapped on a studio track currently. We've heard them sing together live in 97, but a nice studio mix should be intresting since its different than a live recording.

Just my two cents

Alex

[chiliD]

Don't be so sure that "The Dance" is strictly live performances...there was an awful lot of studio sweetening done to the basic tracks. ;)

[Street_Dreamer]

Originally posted by BigAl84
good point chiliD. .

I have never liked the tango in the night album for the exact reason that the album is so divided. The tracks that were originally lindsey solo tracks are so obvious.

That's why I love the album so much! ;) :)



Matt

[BigAl84]

Oh gosh i know the dance was touched up. I've always wanted to hear what it sounded like in person, like a bootleg tape from the audience. That would be intresting!!

Didn't stevie say in an interview that the first night they didn't have it at all...and then the second night they hit the nail on the head and it was like magic??

Alex

[chiliD]

Kind of like any tour...some nights are good, some nights are atrocious.

When I saw 'em on "The Dance" tour on consecutive nights, first night, they were flawless...next night, couldn't hit harmonies to save their asses.

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by chiliD
Don't be so sure that "The Dance" is strictly live performances...there was an awful lot of studio sweetening done to the basic tracks. ;)

No question, ChiliD. That is quite obvious.

Frankly, I think this will essentially be a solo Lindsey record anyway. The only difference being that Mick and John are providing the backbeat, which of course is wonderful, and, oh yes, they got Stevie to make the pictures look good.

[seteca]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Don't be so sure that "The Dance" is strictly live performances...there was an awful lot of studio sweetening done to the basic tracks.



and

Originally posted by CarneVaca


No question, ChiliD. That is quite obvious.

I think "awful lot" is an understatement....."The Dance" is a brilliant album but to think that it is a real "live" album would be totally naive....

Big Al84 made a very good point...it would be really interesting to hear those songs the way they sounded on the night(s) itself....I think the songs would sound totally different....

The most ridiculous example IMO is LB's solo at the end of GYOW.....from about 3:25 till 4:00 (on the edited CD version, not the video) he's playing the same bend over and over and over and over when you watch the video......but you hear (both on the CD and the video) something completely different i.e. what you're seeing doesn't correspond to what you're hearing.....and it's been done in such an obvious way that even someone who's never even picked up a guitar will realise it! You'd think they'd have the sense to not have such a close-up shot of that bit if they were going to so heavily alter it.........

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[David]

Originally posted by seteca
Big Al84 made a very good point...it would be really interesting to hear those songs the way they sounded on the night(s) itself....I think the songs would sound totally different....
Virtually the entire tour was taped by fans. You can hear exactly what they sounded like without the postproduction, & much of it is not all that different to these old ears. "The Dance" sounds smoother, more compressed, more perfectly mixed, doctored here & there. But the arrangements themselves sound pretty much the same.

[seteca]

Originally posted by David

Virtually the entire tour was taped by fans. You can hear exactly what they sounded like without the postproduction, & much of it is not all that different to these old ears. "The Dance" sounds smoother, more compressed, more perfectly mixed, doctored here & there. But the arrangements themselves sound pretty much the same.

Sure, but does anybody have an audience recording of the 2 shows they used for the Dance CD and video....?

I believe the best quality recording (apart from the Dance CD) of that tour is the Irvine Meadows show and if you take my example...listen to GYOW from that show and compare it to the Dance........they're not even comparable..! IMHO..!! Lindsey sounds like he's about to fall asleep...and even his guitar playing sounds tired........sliding up and down the neck over and over again towards the end, like he's run out of ideas or something....I didn't mean that the "arrangements" would be very different...I meant I reckon the quality (in all meanings of the word, e.g. vocals, guitar playing, drumming etc etc etc) of those first two performances would surprisingly different if you heard them "raw".

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[chiliD]

(originally posted by Carne Vaca)
No question, ChiliD. That is quite obvious.




"Obvious" to you & me and the "trained ear", but you'd be surprised how many people there are who DON'T know that "live" albums (of the "officially released" variety) aren't really an authentic representation of how a band/artist REALLY sounds in a live setting. I've had many a heated debate regarding some artists' Live albums...with the other persons raving over how "good a band sounds live", basing their argument solely on how their live album sounds.


(originally posted by seteca)
I believe the best quality recording (apart from the Dance CD) of that tour is the Irvine Meadows show



Being that the Irvine Meadows show was recorded for a radio show broadcast, there was some studio work cleaning up that performance, as well...not as MUCH as if it were for a Live Album, but, there WAS work done, all the same.

[Skylark]

:wavey: Hi Guys! {This comment is from an amateur musician!:)}

You know what!!!I just love everything from The Dance Years!:D
The perfectly produced studio cd to the video from the two nights!
Also 7 concert videos and 17 cd's and cassetts a fanatic fan sent me!
I play them in rotation and find something to admire in each and
every wonderfull performance! Iam glad I can't see all the flaws!;)

:woohoo::blob2:MUSIC is to be ENJOYED!:blob1: :woohoo:Luv, Sky:)