Fm Fall Tour?!?!?

[ShangriLaTroubl]

a local radio station today, when i was driving to go out to eat with my aunt, said that sources are saying Fleetwood Mac will do a "small scaled down tour, through the fall/winter to promote a greatest hits disc, then a full fledge tour in spring/summer of 2003 after their CD is released in March." I dunno how much this classic rock dj knows...

Also someone on the AOL Newsgroup for FM and the Stevie Nicks message board says that billboard magazine says they will do a fall tour to promote a greatest hits package...so hmm?? interesting....

[Sorcerer386]

LOL ShangriLa, we posted these at almost exactly the same time! But that just means more sources, which means hopefully more truth. Although that wasn't the case with Sheryl Crow replacing CM (wherever THAT rumor came from), hopefully this one IS true, and hopefully the tour is big enough that they come to Pittsburgh. Here's to hoping.

[Skylark]

:wavey: Hi! I have a question...although that sounds great for Fall
to bring the band out for a little quickie tour Iam wondering...
How can they do a Greatest Hits Tour without Christine???:eek:

She had many of the Greatest Hits Songs! We need Christine!!!

I thought Mick was going to stay home and change "nappies"!
This is very confusing!The new album and tour in March makes
more sense!!! Mick seems to be testing the $$$$ F Mac waters!
Just Wondering if any of you thought of this glich? Thanks! Sky:)

[David]

Originally posted by thewhitewingedd
The whole thing is very strange to me as well...I would think that a GH tour would need Chris...I really can't see how they could pull it off...How was it done in 88?...Was there any kind of tour with that album?...If there was I'm guessing that it will be delt with in a similar way?...But still its bizzare huh?....Adam (TWWD)
I guess it's odd. Fleetwood didn't tour in 1988 in support of the greatest hits package, probably because they toured early in the year in Europe in support of "Tango." So the problem didn't really come up before now.

Maybe it will be a big, weird greatest hits package from 1967 to the present, & the four of them will play hits from the whole time. Then maybe they could get by with a song or two by Christine McVie, like "Don't Stop" (which they already did without her in Washington) & "Hold Me" or "Temporary One."

[ShangriLaTroubl]

john over at the nicksfix, emailed me back he said that he has no OFFICIAL word yet, although its being discussed, he says he will keep updated...I HOPE SO!

I can see them touring with just the 4, cuz christine doesnt wanna do it...so they would probably do stevie/lindsey hits, with also dont stop, and maybe a couple of new songs...

[greatdarkwing]

OMG, This could actually be happening!!!

I'm trying not to get excited, but this is incredible. Talk about "Out of the blue"


I'm praying.....


~Alex:eek:

[Johnny Stew]

Maybe the mistake we're making, is assuming that this would be a Greatest Hits Tour... rather than just looking at it as a small little "hey, we're still around and have an album coming out in the spring" tour, that will just so happen to precede (or coincide with) the release of a Greatest Hits album.

Besides, for years Fleetwood Mac's setlists have been hits-heavy, so I doubt they'd alter much with or without a Greatest Hits album on the market... with the exception being that they'll most likely remove the majority of Christine's tunes, with only one or two remaining.
(Just as they did when Lindsey left in 1987, as well as when Stevie left a few years later and Christine stopped touring... the first time!)



Johnny Stew

[Sorcerer386]

Maybe the mistake we're making, is assuming that this would be a Greatest Hits Tour...

That's what I was thinking Johnny Stew. I mean, first of all this tour doesn't mean it's supporting the Greatest Hits album. Second of all, whether it is to support it or not, you know they'll do Rhiannon, Dreams, Landslide, Gypsy, maybe we'd even see the long forgotten Sara and Seven Wonders, plus Silver Springs and Gold Dust Woman, then Lindsey will definitely do Go Your Own Way, Tusk, and Big Love, and probably I'm So Afraid and Not That Funny. So either way, they'd still have a lot of hits in the set. PLUS, I'm guessing the set list will not be as long as the usual Mac concerts because there's just two of them now as opposed to three. I'd imagine about 20 songs instead of the usual how many, 25-30? But, I could be wrong on that.

[EnchantedStorms]

Oh!!! I want SO, SO bad to be able to get excited about this!!! PLEASSSSEEEE let it be true!!! lol!:D :D :D

~~Angela~~:wavey:

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I am assuming a small scaled down tour will NOT come to the UK:(

Pip

[Robert]

Considering the comparative failure of "The Dance' in the UK(just scraped the top 15)and more recently the poor showing of TISL there ,I highly doubt they will be touring in the UK.

[Rumours]

But I don't understand it.....that's why you NEED to go to other countries.....to INCREASE sales.......like Stevie's said: "To MAKE them like you"........it doesn't make sense excluding so many places then expecting to sell a bunch of albums there.

And if this is all true, I'm starting to salivate at the prospects of seeing this band sometime very soon!!!!!!!!!! I almost don't want to believe it........

Stephanie

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

The failure of The Dance and TISL over here was due to lack of promotion. There was none for either...absolutely zilch.

And despite Stevie's best wishes I don't think it was ever intended that she came to the UK for TISL. I can remember the promotion fo The Other Side of the Mirror.....it started way before th release...and for TISL there was nothing.

I am just hoping that somewhere in the depths of Mick Fleetwoods' conscience he will remember his roots and drag Fleetwood Mac over here!!!

Pip

[BellaDonnaGypsy]

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
I am just hoping that somewhere in the depths of Mick Fleetwoods' conscience he will remember his roots and drag Fleetwood Mac over here!!!
Blah... no, I think they've forgotten we exist. :distress:

Laura.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

i do think this tour is a very good idea tho, i hope it goes through....its good to get yourself out there, let everyone know you are still great live, before releasing albums...and Fleetwood Mac never really gets a chance to do smaller venues....so hopefully they will, and hopefully Christine will show up for at least one show....Mick did say in an interview she'll probably do one last show...so that would be cool..and I agree they should hit over there in Europe before the album comes out, because we all know its hard for them to sell big time over there, and that could help...

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I am thinking (hoping) that if Christine does do one last show it will be in the UK (if they get their butts over here!!)

Pip

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
And despite Stevie's best wishes I don't think it was ever intended that she came to the UK for TISL.


I don't know, I really do think that Stevie had every intention to tour the UK, and possibly elsewhere, for 'Trouble In Shangri-La'.

She mentioned in several interviews that she wanted to tour abroad, and even the t-shirt my aunt picked up for me at the concert, bears the notation, "World Tour 2001."

It's my feeling that if it weren't for the tragedies that occured here in the states on September 11th, and the huge feeling of uncertainty that those events left, Stevie would have indeed toured beyond our shores.



Johnny Stew

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I hear what you are saying Johnny but I still think they would have been pushing the promotion if the tour had been intended to come here. Isaw that the T-shirts said world tour but yet they were printed with only tour dates in the USA??? That just doesn't make sense.

My opinion (and this is just my own personal opinion) is that what Stevie wanted to do and what the record company wanted her to do were two different things...

Pip

[Street Angel]

I agree with Pip. Maybe it was not Stevie´s intention to leave out Europe, but the record company really didn´t bother too much about this continent.

I won´t repeat my posts of last year where I had already complained about not even releasing a commercially available single over here (even after the success of POTU in the US), which could´ve been a major support for both airplay and album sales in Europe. Please keep in mind that in Europe the "climate" for singles is different and that our radio formats are built up in a slightly different way. :)

Even "non-Stevie" promotion (i.e. adverts etc.) was basically next to nothing, which says a lot about the main focus of the record company. It´s only a pity considering the fact that albums like Street Angel and Behind The Mask reached relatively better chart positions than in the US - especially in the UK and I remember the same for Germany. :distress: :mad:

[Street Angel]

A little P.S.: The US itself is the biggest record market, of course. So it´s definitely an important focus for FM and/or Reprise. But Europe´s "impact" as a whole shouldn´t be underrated either, when it comes to sales figures that are so important to record companies. :)

[chiliD]

Here's my take...

This upcoming fall tour "coincides" with the release of the Greatest Hits album...it doesn't mean that they're really touring to SUPPORT the album.

I take it to mean that they're saying "ok, this greatest hits package is where we WERE...THIS is where we are now, and you'll have a new album in spring...hope you enjoy the way we ARE as much as you liked the way we WERE". It's probably the best marketing scheme they've come up with in 25 years. They OBVIOUSLY dropped the ball marketing-wise after "The Dance".

They'll probably start out the tour playing more of the "hits" with Lindsey being the obvious choice to sing whatever Christine's tunes they do; and a couple of the songs that'll be on the new album. If the tour lasts through the end of the year, look for them to keep adding new tunes and dropping the older tunes. I think once the album is finally released, the set will have changed considerably from the way it was during the fall leg of the tour.

[BLY]

I do believe IF the MAC starts the tour in fall 2002 the set will change a bit as the new album is released. However,
I hope they don't do any of Christine's tunes. Not even Don't Stop. There is enough "Greatest Hit" material without doing Christine tunes. Buckingham and Nicks will most likely add their solo "hits" to the mix. I know Lindsey likes to shake things up a bit with the live shows."The Dance "was the Greatest Hits show, now is the time to do the Buckingham/ Nicks show!!!

[Mike B]

Wow. I read a glimmer about this earlier in the week, but didn't give it much thought. But now that word is spreading and it might actually happen?

<b>WOW. </b>

I was resigned to not seeing them until next year. But a fall tour followed by another in the spring seems incredibly...<i>daring</i> for this band, doesn't it? :laugh:

This actually looks like a smart plan: do a small (say, 20 city) tour in the fall, which concentrates on the hits, a few rarities, and a couple of new songs. <i>Then</i> launch a world tour next spring that relies heavily on the new material (especially if they have a "double album"' worth of music).

If the tour lasts through the end of the year, look for them to keep adding new tunes and dropping the older tunes. I think once the album is finally released, the set will have changed considerably from the way it was during the fall leg of the tour.

If they do this, they'll have me on board for every possible show I can go to. I just saw a couple of concerts last week, two nights in a row. The setlist changed by 2 or 3 songs the second night, but it felt like an entirely new show. I read that the next night it changed again. If I thought that they might slip in "Twisted" or something equally rare on some random night, I'll drive the extra few hours or whatever to go to more shows. (Guess I better start looking for that second job <i>now</i> to pay for that!)

This is the most exciting thing I've heard about this latest incarnation of the Mac yet! I'm excited...

Mike B.

[nodmod]

Originally posted by Mike B
If they do this, they'll have me on board for every possible show I can go to. I just saw a couple of concerts last week, two nights in a row. The setlist changed by 2 or 3 songs the second night, but it felt like an entirely new show. I read that the next night it changed again. If I thought that they might slip in "Twisted" or something equally rare on some random night, I'll drive the extra few hours or whatever to go to more shows. (Guess I better start looking for that second job <i>now</i> to pay for that!)

This is the most exciting thing I've heard about this latest incarnation of the Mac yet! I'm excited...

Mike B.

Hey Mike, don't forget to take your wonderful toys to these shows, funds will not allow a trip to the USA this fall for me :distress:

Hopefully come the Spring tour, I may be able to come up with the money for a jaunt overseas and also wait for the European dates.

[highpriestess53]

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
The failure of The Dance and TISL over here was due to lack of promotion. There was none for either...absolutely zilch.

And despite Stevie's best wishes I don't think it was ever intended that she came to the UK for TISL. I can remember the promotion fo The Other Side of the Mirror.....it started way before th release...and for TISL there was nothing.

I am just hoping that somewhere in the depths of Mick Fleetwoods' conscience he will remember his roots and drag Fleetwood Mac over here!!!

Pip

We ALL wanted Stevie to tour the UK and Europe and Stevie with all the best will in the world wanted to do the full enchillada but look at it realistically....from the record company and the marketing people......
A tour wouldn't have been that succesful in Europe.....with NO promotion of TISL and a still 'tarnished' reputation...ie comments like oh yes Stevie Nicks she is so totally hooked on coke right?? Or ....I thought she was dead...is another comment that has been made to me personally........compounded with the fact that Stevie hadn't been here for a while...oohhh the better part of twelve years in which a lot of people remember her being strung out on Klonopin.......would not have inspired the record company to part with hundreds of thousands perhaps millions of dollars to do a tour for which they could not be certain of a huge return...in the States, Stevie made a cool $18.000.000 for 36 shows, she is marketable and bankable still..so do the maths...statistically and logisitically Stevie could NOT earn those sorts of dollars from Europe.....and all the record company is interested in is the BOTTOM line on the accounting balance sheets. It is a very sad situation......but as for the Mac touring the UK and Europe like GR I hope that underneath it all Mick remembers that one half of the band is British born and bred......and I will also take the 'I believe it when they post the dates for the tour' attitude...
The only likely way to see the Mac.......is to travel again to the States.........

[Jonathan]

Just a thought...The Rolling Stones are mixing their tour this fall between big arenas and small clubs. Maybe the Mac wants to do some shows in a smaller setting like that. Now wouldn't that be something? Seeing them in club.