The FM Magic gone?

[Janet]

I was thinking about the Dance and how huge that was.
I think what helped it is the single Lindsey and the single Stevie flirting madly on stage and being really romantic. That made alot of people very excited and added this auroa to the show. Plus , of course, on top of that , it was the original Rumours line up. Between the two...Rumours and romance are what made FM so huge in the first place.

Now you don't have all the members. Now Lindsey is married and won't be finishing Stevie's songs or kissing her on the cheek. I wonder if the album won't take off as much because it will be missing the romance and original line up??? What does everyone think?

I mean WE will buy it no matter waht, I just meant the general stupid public.

[tyshiria]

Originally posted by Janet
I was thinking about the Dance and how huge that was.
I think what helped it is the single Lindsey and the single Stevie flirting madly on stage and being really romantic. That made alot of people very excited and added this auroa to the show. Plus , of course, on top of that , it was the original Rumours line up. Between the two...Rumours and romance are what made FM so huge in the first place.

Now you don't have all the members. Now Lindsey is married and won't be finishing Stevie's songs or kissing her on the cheek. I wonder if the album won't take off as much because it will be missing the romance and original line up??? What does everyone think?

I mean WE will buy it no matter waht, I just meant the general stupid public.

now i was wondering how it will sell now that christine is gone. i'm not too sure if it will be great when then TOUR especially. will they even sing, ymlf, everywhere, etc? it's so sad to be without that link.

now i don't know about the romance thing. i mean, i doubt it if ppl won't be excited this tour when it comes to stevie in linds. and i don't think that they'll stop the kisses on the cheek and the hugging just because he's married. they have said theirselves that when they sing those songs, it's like they fall inlove all over again for that second. so that's only natural for them. u know what i mean?

mimi:)

[jmn3]

I doubt they will do any of Chris' songs on the tour. I would seriously doubt them playing either "YMLF," or "Everywhere." The one that I would almost expect they will play will be "Don't Stop."

I would love to hear Lindsey do "Isn't it Midnight." I think the two of them (LB and SN) have too many songs that don't get played live ever....and they should really work on playing them. There is so much material from Tusk alone!

[tommer]

Originally posted by Janet
Rumours and romance are what made FM so huge in the first place.

i strongly believe that it had to do with their great music as well.
i also believe that a big part of how succesful the new album may be will depend simply upon how good will it be.

[Lee]

No, I don't think the magic will ever be gone. Lindsey may be married, but there is still a chemistry between he & Stevie. I agree with Mimi, I don't think Lindsey & Stevie will ever stop hugging or kissing each other. And haven't they played together at different charity events since The Dance? They still hug & kiss each other; I've seen the pictures. It might be a little strange without Christine there, but I'll bet Lindsey & Stevie will still flirt with each other. Might make Lindsey's wife a little upset, but "oh, well". (LOL) And not only is there a chemistry between Lindsey & Stevie, but there is a certain chemistry between all the members of FM. And their music is awesome! Their next tour will sell out, you watch!

Lee :)

[sulamith]

Stevie and Lindsey will always be hot together even when they are bald and toothless and wearing Depends in the ORS Home!

That's Old Rock Star's Home.

Chemistry is chemistry, no matter what, and they have the IT factor chromosome. That certain what-ever-it-is that makes people, even nonfans, look at them and go "Whoa! Those two need to get a room!"

I know, because I have seen just those kinds of comments from people who don't even know who they are.

I know there are those who think it is all put on for the audience, but I really don't buy that. You can't fake this stuff, and plus, why would you? Why would they write songs about stuff that they are faking?

I'm prepared to take a barbs over this opinion, but I think the fact that he is married is going to HEIGHTEN the drama! Will he or won't he? It will add to the drama, and who knows, maybe a few things will hit the fan soon and we'll have more gossip than ever. Touring and performing S&L are different than everyday S&L. They draw energy from the performance, the audience, the expression of inner feelings, and they make each other feel alive when things are going full-throttle during a show.

I really think it is impossible for them to hold back emotion on stage. They never have before, so why should they now? We have always seen it played out right in front of us, all the love, passion, hate, anger, jealousy, animosity, denial, competiveness, PAIN, lust, sadness, impulsiveness - all of it!

I think it will be there, just like always. Their history is so long and complicated that their early bond will never be broken.

Certain animals just can't (and shouldn't) be domesticated!

[sulamith]

Stevie and Lindsey will always be hot together even when they are bald and toothless, wearing Depends, and gumming down oatmeal in the ORS Home!

That's Old Rock Star's Home.

Chemistry is chemistry, no matter what, and they have the IT factor chromosome. That certain what-ever-it-is that makes people, even nonfans, look at them and go "Whoa! Those two need to get a room!"

I know, because I have seen just those kinds of comments from people who don't even know who they are.

I know there are those who think it is all put on for the audience, but I really don't buy that. You can't fake this stuff, and plus, why would you? Why would they write songs about stuff that they are faking?

I'm prepared to take a barbs over this opinion, but I think the fact that he is married is going to HEIGHTEN the drama! Will he or won't he? It will add to the drama, and who knows, maybe a few things will hit the fan soon and we'll have more gossip than ever. Touring and performing S&L are different than everyday S&L. They draw energy from the performance, the audience, the expression of inner feelings, and they make each other feel alive when things are going full-throttle during a show.

I really think it is impossible for them to hold back emotion on stage. They never have before, so why should they now? We have always seen it played out right in front of us, all the love, passion, hate, anger, jealousy, animosity, denial, competiveness, PAIN, lust, sadness, impulsiveness - all of it!

I think it will be there, just like always. Their history is so long and complicated that their early bond will never be broken.

Certain animals just can't (and shouldn't) be domesticated!

[sulamith]

sorry about the double post, the first one didn't go, so I had to redo it!

And anyways,

S&L Forever!

[Carole Ann]

"...who knows, maybe a few things will hit the fan soon and we'll have more gossip than ever."
What do you mean, specifically?

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I thought Lindsey was with Kristin during The Dance??

Pip

[tyshiria]

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
I thought Lindsey was with Kristin during The Dance??

Pip

kristin who? :confused:

mimi:)

[EnchantedStorms]

LOL....Mimi, you're crackin' me up.:laugh:


As far as the chemistry between SnL on the new tour...I'm sure it will still be there...Kristen, afterall, knows all about the "spectre of Stevie" (AAHHH--LOVE THAT QUOTE!!;) :laugh: ) But even if she didn't...I agree with Sulamith...you CANNOT fake that kind of connection. It's there...it's ALWAYS been there...and it's not going anywhere. I think that maybe...just maybe, there will be even MORE of the interaction on stage just for the simple fact that this tour is, to them, kind of like Buckingham/Nicks II...and that HAS to make it nostalgic...and special. LOL...I hope like hell Try For The Sun makes it on the record, and that they perform it on tour...probably wishful thinking on my part...but can't you just SEE that??? I think that that song right there just proves that Lindsey is still feeling kinda um....sentimental? lol...where Stevie is concerned. Oh, well...JMO.

~~Angela~~:wavey:

[Janet]

Lindsey was with Kristen obviously around Dance time because the baby had to be conceived.

But for a bit they broke up I heard...near the beginning of the tour...then they got back together either with baby news or just because they really wanted to get back together.

But I won't get into THAT.

Lindsey didn't have a ring so , everyone, me included , could speculate on him and Stevie. On stage sometimes it looked like they were just f'in like rabbits offstage really. They just had SUCH a wonderful chemistry.

NOW with the ring...he has to be good. With the ring...Stevie can't hang onto him.

To me, it will just bother me a bit...

Without Christine, its not the same either. We need to get a petition started to show her shes really wanted for real!!

[chiliD]

I hope like hell Try For The Sun makes it on the record, and that they perform it on tour...probably wishful thinking on my part...but can't you just SEE that??? I think that that song right there just proves that Lindsey is still feeling kinda um....sentimental? lol...where Stevie is concerned.


Angela,

Lindsey didn't write "Try For The Sun". It was written by Donovan Leitch, Sr.; aka "Donovan". Same guy who wrote "Season Of The Witch", "Catch The Wind", "Mellow Yellow", "Cosmic Wheels", "Intergalactic Laxative", and "Jennifer Juniper" for Jenny Boyd (Fleetwood), back in the late '60's/early '70's. I SERIOUSLY doubt Donovan had Stevie in mind when he wrote "Try For The Sun", nor even knew of her existence. Lindsey just covered it somewhere along the lines during the "Gift Of Screws" sessions, along with covering four relatively obscure Rolling Stones tunes ("She Smiled Sweetly", "Blue Turns To Grey", "Gotta Get Away" & "The Singer Not The Song"). I also seriously doubt that EVERYTHING Lindsey writes is about Stevie and vice versa...no matter HOW it may seem like it in our fantasies. :nod:

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by chiliD
I SERIOUSLY doubt Donovan had Stevie in mind when he wrote "Try For The Sun", nor even knew of her existence. Lindsey just covered it somewhere along the lines during the "Gift Of Screws" sessions, along with covering four relatively obscure Rolling Stones tunes ("She Smiled Sweetly", "Blue Turns To Grey", "Gotta Get Away" & "The Singer Not The Song"). I also seriously doubt that EVERYTHING Lindsey writes is about Stevie and vice versa...no matter HOW it may seem like it in our fantasies. :nod:

Lindsey must've known, even as he covered it, what a lot of us fans would think when he covered a song about a guy running off with a gypsy and made it into a love song. He's not that clueless!

Perhaps he was like, "Oh, well, who cares if everybody thinks I chose to sing this because of my former relationship with Stevie, I'll cover it anyway - and I'd better change 'gypsy boy' to 'gypsy girl' so people don't think I'm gay." However, surely no one is surprised that many folks would come to a different conclusion, considering the context of the song?

It's all just speculation anyway.

[EnchantedStorms]

Originally posted by chiliD



Angela,

Lindsey didn't write "Try For The Sun". It was written by Donovan Leitch, Sr.; aka "Donovan". Same guy who wrote "Season Of The Witch", "Catch The Wind", "Mellow Yellow", "Cosmic Wheels", "Intergalactic Laxative", and "Jennifer Juniper" for Jenny Boyd (Fleetwood), back in the late '60's/early '70's. I SERIOUSLY doubt Donovan had Stevie in mind when he wrote "Try For The Sun", nor even knew of her existence. Lindsey just covered it somewhere along the lines during the "Gift Of Screws" sessions, along with covering four relatively obscure Rolling Stones tunes ("She Smiled Sweetly", "Blue Turns To Grey", "Gotta Get Away" & "The Singer Not The Song"). I also seriously doubt that EVERYTHING Lindsey writes is about Stevie and vice versa...no matter HOW it may seem like it in our fantasies. :nod:


LOL....I know he didn't write it...but, he did change some of the words...and like Nancy said...lol...he HAD to have known what ppl would think. I mean, "his gypsy girl"??? The song just has Buckingham/Nicks written all over it. He HAD to have been thinking of himself and Stevie when he heard/decided to cover this song. No, I don't think Donovan had Stevie in mind...but Lindsey sure as heck did...LOL.

And, you're right...as much as I would love for ALL of their songs to be about each other...I know that that is not so...but, lol...this one is...I'm just sure.:D :D :D

~~Angela~~:wavey:

[bjk3047]

Originally posted by chiliD
I also seriously doubt that EVERYTHING Lindsey writes is about Stevie and vice versa...no matter HOW it may seem like it in our fantasies. :nod:
I tried to bring this up a while, glad you share the same sentiment. I just find it quite hard to believe stuff from Tango and Behind The Mask is written for Lindsey from Stevie or vice versa. I mean c'mon, 10+ years after the fact, people get on with their lives. It's just a little outlandish to keep the dream alive.
-Brian

[wondergirl9847]

We all know that some of her songs are NOT about Lindsey, but some people "wish" they were. I don't care who the songs are about as long as they ROCK! :nod::thumbsup: Isn't "Rooms on Fire" about Rupert Hine? There is MUCH speculation like, this song is about so and so, and this one is about so and so, and we inject our own thoughts and stuff into that, and with Stevie (HOORAY for Storytellers!!), Christine and especially Lindsey not saying much about their respective songs, it's easy to put your own spin on them. :nod: I DO like taking songs and applying them to MY life tho. :D

[sulamith]

..........but things weren't completely over for them in 77. They have both as much as admitted that. They drifted together and apart for years, pushing and pulling, giving in to many temptations on the road, including each other. They were circling each other, but never quite able to resolve anything. Too many other commitments and problems got in the way, and they were never wanting the same thing at the same time. There were so many issues of power, control, and competition.

It's not as easy as "10+ years being over". Lindsey wouldn't have been haunted by a spectre that wasn't real from time to time. Something kept it alive.
They were still incredibly attracted to each other after they "broke up". Their chemistry, their sexual energy, is so real you can touch it. One thing leads to another. Stuff happened, and they just couldn't seem to get on the same page at the same time. Stevie's drug problems complicated things greatly. It all got so bad Lindsey had to leave in order to break the destructive cycle they kept getting sucked into on the road. Who could blame him? I'm sure it was all very mentally draining, which in turn affects creativity.

Sure, all their songs aren't about each other, but alot of them are.
Even their old friends say things like, "They write songs to each other like most people write letters."
And the unreleased stuff of Stevie's? Well, that mostly always points directly to Lindsey.

Their relationship is very complicated, and the great majority of the rest of us will never experience anything like that.
I just don't think you can apply standard rules to it because it is so unique.
That's what makes it a beautiful thing to watch, even to this day.
I, for one, am going to be there, no matter what!

[Julie2920]

i'm not nearly as astute as most of you in interpreting stevie's lyrics, but its not all that hard to figure out when a song, or even just a verse, is about lindsey. there seems to be something consistent about the tone, and the words she chooses, when she writes about him.
and just because a song was on tango or BTM doesnt mean it was written at that time. stevie keeps her songs forever, until the right vehicle presents itself - such as what happened with TISL.
yes, people get on with their lives, as they definitely should, and i hope they each are completely happy in their respective worlds, but you cant tell me that a "certain something" doesnt remain for stevie and lindsey, that the pulse doesnt quicken a little when they get together. they know it, and they know we know it. you wait and see, they will play off each other in concert, because they still need to air it out, but now they can do it in the safe confines of a concert hall.
i cant wait..............

[BellaDonnaGypsy]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I DO like taking songs and applying them to MY life tho. :D
I agree with you there... I have lots of little theme tunes... :laugh:

BTW... I don't think anyone here is going to claim that every song Stevie wrote is about Lindsey... she's had an exciting life with a lot of different experiences, and that's some understatement. But what's the problem with saying that some of them were, and still are being written about him? She has said they're friends now, so why shouldn't she write songs about him? Would you rather they didn't speak at all?

Laura.

[tyshiria]

Originally posted by BellaDonnaGypsy
Would you rather they didn't speak at all?

Laura.

that's the vibe i always get when i see ppl post statements like that. i don't know y some ppl have such a problem with these two together as friend and/or lovers. these two have known eachother just about all their lives. i would think that some songs would still come out about their relationship. besides, the songs that do are EXCELLENT! and we all rock out to them so i don't see what the problem is!

mimi:)

[Les]

Originally posted by tyshiria
that's the vibe i always get when i see ppl post statements like that. i don't know y some ppl have such a problem with these two together as friend and/or lovers. these two have known eachother just about all their lives. i would think that some songs would still come out about their relationship. besides, the songs that do are EXCELLENT! and we all rock out to them so i don't see what the problem is!

Nobody here has suggested that none of their songs are about each other.

I don't think there is any sort of vibe or problem -- it's just a difference of opinion. Some of us don't look at Stevie's and Lindsey's history together or read their interviews and interpret all of it in a way that leads us to the sorts of conclusions that Sulamith described above. That's all. It's nothing personal. It's nothing that means that I think Lindsey and Stevie shouldn't talk or shouldn't be friends now. I haven't read anything here that makes me think anyone does think that.

The alternatives to being in love are many and varied and because I don't think they're still in love does not mean that I think they hate each other. In fact, I take them at their word that they are now able to be better friends than they ever were before. I think they do have an alliance of sorts that doesn't go away that translates to chemistry on stage. That alliance is something special in performances, but it isn't something that makes me think Lindsey and Stevie weren't or aren't still madly in love with other people in their lives.

Certainly they continued to have issues with each other for years after their breakup. But probably like Chili and like Brian, because I don't believe that they've continued to be "in love" during the 26 long years since they broke up, I see a lot of other events and people from their lives in a lot of their songs.


PS - Lindsey was with Kristen during the Dance tour. There were several sightings of her throughout - beginning, middle and end.

[EnchantedStorms]

Ahhh....lol, but weren't there several Lindsey "sightings" on Stevie's Enchanted tour? Seems like I remember hearing of a few...:shrug: :D :shrug:

~~Angela~~:wavey:

[Skylark]

:wavey: Hi Mac Fans! Let us not forget Lindsey's sweet eye
contact and loving smiles for Christine!!! They were
ALL happy they mended the past and could now move
on! Stevie went over and nuzzled up to Lindsey...>>>
not the other way around! Lindsey being a gentleman
responded accordingly! LINDSEY RULES!!! Cheers! Sky :)

ps... Lindsey said they are FRIENDS once again !!! :cool:
Kristen mentioned Stevie very kindly on his BTM!:blob1::blob2:

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by Skylark
Hi Mac Fans! Let us not forget Lindsey's sweet eye
contact and loving smiles for Christine!!!

Do you know something we don't? ;-)

[sulamith]

Yes, Angela, I wasn't going to bring that up, but yes, he was spotted at least three times backstage and on the bus during the Enchanted Tour,
and,
Wasn't it Lindsey who clotheslined Stevie at the last show on the Dance tour with a kiss right in the mouth that seemed to just about snap her head off? She looked real angry about it...
I wouldn't call that merely gentlemanly reciprocation. He went into her space on that one.

Look, we could argue this all day. We'll never get anywhere because for every "sighting" or event there is another to show somethig else. My earlier post was referring to the time before Lindsey left the Band in the 80's. Nobody really knows, that was just my opinion.
There is strong evidence for both extremes of opinion, so like I said neither side will ever prove anything.

I'm still intrigued, still watching!
-Sharon

[Lisa44]

Hi guys! What are your thoughts about them being able to repeat the success of The Dance? I hope they will but the industry has changed so much since then (for the worse, IMO)and the fact that it might be six years between albums can't help either.