Fleetwood Mac at 21 (1988)

[Macfan4life]

I never saw this before. It was released in the UK as a Tango tour promotion. Lots of good interviews from the members including Lindsey. I love the footage of Christine playing piano in her Beverly Hills home. It shows her and Eddy's studio they shared together.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvsTNyMjcgI

[Villavic]

Thanks for sharing! I do remember that doc, they aired it in a local tv channel but I couldn't watch it completely. I just vividly remembered that Stevie baton twirling scene from Tusk with the Tango song. I think it was the first Mac doc I ever watched.

[Villavic]

By the way, I won't comment about Stevie's eyes or talk at 13:00, but I say this time I do like her outfit.

[Macfan4life]

By the way, I won't comment about Stevie's eyes or talk at 13:00, but I say this time I do like her outfit.
She looks good there
The Peter Green interview was fascinating and seeing his 2 inch fingernails
The doc does have an error. Tango never came close to #1 in the states but it was #1 in the UK
Christine looks amazing in the late 80s

[Villavic]

OK this doc included what I was looking for! At 15:39, you can hear the original Dreams audio that has been replaced in the official YT channel clip with the audio from Live album (supposedly 6/14/80, Palais de Sport, Paris soundcheck, according to the cd book or vinyl inner sleeve). Is it a different audio? Or is it the same but very well re mastered? I doubt it, at the original I can't hear some harmonies that are present in the Live audio version. But her lips are very well sync, so it doesn't seems the audio from another show.

[bombaysaffires]

OK this doc included what I was looking for! At 15:39, you can hear the original Dreams audio that has been replaced in the official YT channel clip with the audio from Live album (supposedly 6/14/80, Palais de Sport, Paris soundcheck, according to the cd book or vinyl inner sleeve). Is it a different audio? Or is it the same but very well re mastered? I doubt it, at the original I can't hear some harmonies that are present in the Live audio version. But her lips are very well sync, so it doesn't seems the audio from another show.

it just seems like her vocal got pulled more forward in the mix in later iterations of this video.

[Macfan4life]

We get a Ghosts lyric at the end of her discussion of wishing Lindsey well "there is nothing else to say"

"one day they were lovers, one day they were friends, there was nothing else to say"


Ghosts is very autobiographical but I wonder if that line is in reference to Lindsey.

[Villavic]

We get a Ghosts lyric at the end of her discussion of wishing Lindsey well "there is nothing else to say".

And after finally seeing it in its entirety, now I know where Mick's quote comes from.

And, to be honest, there were moments of trial for both Billy and Rick, who knew they were stepping into some pretty heavy boots. Yet never once did anyone ask, where's Lindsey?

Oh yes, the fellow from the BBC did. They did a special on us, and the interviewer broached the subject to Stevie. "I gave Lindsey up," she told him. "He's a thing of my past. I hope he finds what he's searching for, and I hope he's happy, and I wish him well. And there's nothing left to say."

[Macfan4life]

And after finally seeing it in its entirety, now I know where Mick's quote comes from.

And, to be honest, there were moments of trial for both Billy and Rick, who knew they were stepping into some pretty heavy boots. Yet never once did anyone ask, where's Lindsey?

Oh yes, the fellow from the BBC did. They did a special on us, and the interviewer broached the subject to Stevie. "I gave Lindsey up," she told him. "He's a thing of my past. I hope he finds what he's searching for, and I hope he's happy, and I wish him well. And there's nothing left to say."
When Chris sold her Beverly Hills house before moving back to England I always thought how cool it would be to buy it. Not only is it beautiful but the rock history that went along with it. Dennis made the heart shaped flower garden there and Lindsey through Stevie against the side of his car in the driveway shouting "get this psychotic bitch off me." Chris told of her pool parties in the late 70s blasting Steely Dan and it echoing through the canyon.
I appreciated this clip's little glimpse into her Beverly Hills studio.

[Villavic]

and Lindsey through Stevie against the side of his car shouting "get this psychotic bitch off me."

According to Mick it was before he went to his car and didin't say psychotic. :lol:

"Oh sh-*!" Lindsey shouted. "Get this bitch out of my way. And f--k the lot of you!" A great hue and cry now ensued. Lindsey headed out to his car, and Stevie followed him outside to the courtyard, trying to change his mind.

[Macfan4life]

According to Mick it was before he went to his car and didin't say psychotic. :lol:

"Oh sh-*!" Lindsey shouted. "Get this bitch out of my way. And f--k the lot of you!" A great hue and cry now ensued. Lindsey headed out to his car, and Stevie followed him outside to the courtyard, trying to change his mind.
yes and read the next few paragraphs........

[Penguin Emeritus]

According to Mick it was before he went to his car and didin't say psychotic. :lol:

"Oh sh-*!" Lindsey shouted. "Get this bitch out of my way. And f--k the lot of you!" A great hue and cry now ensued. Lindsey headed out to his car, and Stevie followed him outside to the courtyard, trying to change his mind.

'F*** the lot of you!" is totally not something a guy from California would ever say lol... Americans don't say that in general. Mick put his British spin on that. "F*** all of you!" seems far more likely.

--Lis

[Villavic]

yes and read the next few paragraphs........

Oh yes I stop reading cause those were the saddest and most controversial parts, since he wrote it got physical, I didn't want to include it. But now that I read it, yes it was followed by "Get that woman out of my life that schizophrenic bitch!". Well, again, not psychotic. :rolleyes:

[Macfan4life]

Oh yes I stop reading cause those were the saddest and most controversial parts, since he wrote it got physical, I didn't want to include it. But now that I read it, yes it was followed by "Get that woman out of my life that schizophrenic bitch!". Well, again, not psychotic. :rolleyes:
It was in the morning when I wrote this and did not know how to spell the other word. Means sort of the same thing, no?



Don't question me

[HomerMcvie]

Oh yes I stop reading cause those were the saddest and most controversial parts, since he wrote it got physical, I didn't want to include it. But now that I read it, yes it was followed by "Get that woman out of my life that schizophrenic bitch!". Well, again, not psychotic. :rolleyes:

You can't rewrite history to your own liking.

[Villavic]

You can't rewrite history to your own liking.

I know. f I could, there would have been more studio albums, she would still be alive, there would have been more tours including continents they never went to, some brains would not be damaged by the 70s candies.

But nobody is perfect.

[Macfan4life]

In Lindsey's defense he said it did not happen this way. Stevie's version is the most violent where she alleges he threw her against the car and she thought he was going to kill her. She started making threats that her father and brother will find him and kill him.

Who would have thought that this same Stevie that physically attacked Lindsey for him to stay in the band would be the same Stevie 30+ years later that blackmailed the band to fire Lindsey.

[Villavic]

In Lindsey's defense he said it did not happen this way. Stevie's version is the most violent where she alleges he threw her against the car and she thought he was going to kill her. She started making threats that her father and brother will find him and kill him.


And that's why I didn't include those details of the supposedly physical segment. We will never know what is true and what not. I think one of Lindsey's solo song was an answer to Mick about it?

Anyway what I am sure of from that whole episode that Mick wrote is that what John said is true.

There was a silence. And John McVie quietly said to Lindsey Buckingham, "I think you'd better leave now."

Because there's an audio from an interview I heard in some website where John says, "I meant to say leave the house, not leave the band" and he laughs!

[Macfan4life]

And that's why I didn't include those details of the supposedly physical segment. We will never know what is true and what not. I think one of Lindsey's solo song was an answer to Mick about it?

Anyway what I am sure of from that whole episode that Mick wrote is that what John said is true.

There was a silence. And John McVie quietly said to Lindsey Buckingham, "I think you'd better leave now."

Because there's an audio from an interview I heard in some website where John says, "I meant to say leave the house, not leave the band" and he laughs!
The funniest part is Christine yelling at both of them "why don't you guys kill each other on your own property."

[Villavic]

She looks good there
The Peter Green interview was fascinating and seeing his 2 inch fingernails
The doc does have an error. Tango never came close to #1 in the states but it was #1 in the UK
Christine looks amazing in the late 80s

That’s right, Christine looks beautiful.

And yes, Tango was not #1 on both sides of the Atlantic. But I must invoke Dr. Albert. It’s all relative. In the top ten list, position 7 does not come close to #1. But it does in the Billboard 200 chart. :)

Now I’m dismayed Stevie didn’t mention she went the next three days and bought all Fleetwood Mac records and listened to them back to front and that she made the decision to join Fleetwood Mac. That would have been fair and would have exposed Lindsey lying when he says "we made the decision". Why she forgot to tell that? It’s a mystery to me. Or she did and they cut off Stevie's answer. We should sue the BBC. :laugh: Or did she only remember that in 1997? :confused:

From the clips of Peter they took outside his house, I gather he wasn't mentally well in 1988. But I suppose he improved later, like by the time he went to the RRHOF induction, though he didn’t say a word there or so I remember. But there is an interview from 2000 in YT where he seemed to be doing better and there he did speak fluently.