What’s the best song post ‘87?

[FuzzyPlum]

I’m sure there’s already a thread or poll about this somewhere….Oh Well…
What’s the best Fleetwood Mac song released after Tango?

[FuzzyPlum]

1. As Long As You Follow
2. Bleed To Love Her
3. Sad Angel

[Villavic]

As Long As You Follow.

Now if I had to choose one song per singer, I'd add Bleed To Love Her, and Sweet Girl. Technically I can't say if they are the "best", but those are the ones I like the most.

[HomerMcvie]

Either As Long As You Follow, or Love Shines.

[aleuzzi]

Most of my contenders are Christine’s:

Love Shines
Heart of Stone
Sooner or Later
Temporary One (sorry, John B)

But then there’s:

Taking to My Heart
Nothing Without You
Got It In for You

[WalkAThinLine.]

I would probably rank "Love Shines", "Everybody Finds Out", and "Red Rover" as their best work post Tango in the Night. Of their three most recent studio albums, Say You Will definitely has their most adventurous music. Outside their material on The Dance, the band's songs beyond 1987 have not been heralded as "classics", but several are worthy of more exposure to casual fans.

[Mr Scarrott]

Smile at you, Say Goodbye and All over again.

No-one else has gone for any of those, which is interesting. I suppose. I suppose Smile at you wasn't exactly a post-Tango song in terms of composition, but I love the atmosphere created by the SYW version of it.

[cbBen]

studio: "Steal Your Heart Away"
live: "Say Goodbye" from LB's Soundstage appearance

[Macfan4life]

Nicks: Everybody Finds Out
McVie: Nights in Estoril
Buckingham/McVie: Too Far Gone

[Villavic]

live: "Say Goodbye" from LB's Soundstage appearance

Oh yes that's a favorite of mine. By far much better than the studio version.

[FuzzyPlum]

By writer:

As Long As You Follow, Love Shines
Bleed to Love Her, Sad Angel
Thrown Down, Everybody Finds Out

Best of the rest….er….In The Back of My Mind

[jbrownsjr]

As Long As You Follow
Love Shine
Heart of Stone
Sweet Girl

[Macfan4life]

As Long As You Follow
Love Shine
Heart of Stone
Sweet Girl
I thought it was Silver Girl over Sweet Girl

[moon]

Impossible to choose one!
After '87? Maybe...

- Hollywood (Another Kind Of Town)
- Love Shines
- Sooner Or Later
- As Long As You Follow
- Bleed To Love Her (The Dance version)

[Andyleo]

Steal Your Heart Away
Destiny Rules
As Long As You Follow

[Villavic]

I thought it was Silver Girl over Sweet Girl

I like more Sweet G. than Silver G. For my taste, if the song had been arranged with a more classic Fleetwood Mac sound, it might have been better. But the SYW touch just doesn't do it for me.

[jbrownsjr]

I thought it was Silver Girl over Sweet Girl

If I was on the toilet, perhaps.

[WalkAThinLine.]

If I was on the toilet, perhaps.

I would probably take "Silver Girl" over "Sweet Girl", both of which I frequently skip. Both songs possess serviceable vocals from Nicks at the expense of bland song structures.

[aleuzzi]

I would probably rank "Love Shines", "Everybody Finds Out", and "Red Rover" as their best work post Tango in the Night. Of their three most recent studio albums, Say You Will definitely has their most adventurous music. Outside their material on The Dance, the band's songs beyond 1987 have not been heralded as "classics", but several are worthy of more exposure to casual fans.

I forgot about the Say You Will album!

The two songs you mention from it, and “Say Goodbye,” are my favorites. “Throw Down” runs a close fourth…and I actually love “Illume.” It captures the paranoia of the time very well.

[aleuzzi]

And if we’re talking legit FM albums since 1987, why not throw “Carnival Begin” in there:)

[Villavic]

I forgot about the Say You Will album!

And do you have any idea why?

[WalkAThinLine.]

And if we’re talking legit FM albums since 1987, why not throw “Carnival Begin” in there:)

Yes, "Carnival Begin" is great. I view it as a hybrid between "I'm So Afraid" and "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave", both of which are also among my favorites.

[Street_Dreamer]

Lindsey - Sad Angel
Stevie - Freedom
Christine - Love Shines

[Macfan4life]

I forgot about the Say You Will album!

The two songs you mention from it, and “Say Goodbye,” are my favorites. “Throw Down” runs a close fourth…and I actually love “Illume.” It captures the paranoia of the time very well.
OMG Yes. Its so rare to find someone else that appreciates Illume. Its all Lindsey. How do turn a poem about a horrific tragedy into music and song. How could you even begin to put it to music? I would use anger instead of paranoia but it has that vibe. It could fit on Law and Order or Tusk. The criticisms of the song on this board over the years make me go insane......"you cant sing to it" "It has no chorus" "It makes no sense"
Not all music is supposed to be fun pop verse, chorus, repeat. Sometimes like album covers music is made to make you think. Stevie was so masterful in describing her personal experience at a NYC hotel during 9/11. Like all poetry there are metaphors and indirect words, phrases, etc. I really appreciate Lindsey's craft of this song. The song puts you at unease and takes you down a path of uncertainty. That's the entire point of the song. I think the unease and uncertainty the song projects turns people off. When the band went on stage in NYC on the SYW tour they should have played it. People really expected a sing along chorus to 9/11 or a get up and dance number? I don't get it.

[Villavic]

OMG Yes. Its so rare to find someone else that appreciates Illume. Its all Lindsey. How do turn a poem about a horrific tragedy into music and song. How could you even begin to put it to music? I would use anger instead of paranoia but it has that vibe. It could fit on Law and Order or Tusk. The criticisms of the song on this board over the years make me go insane......"you cant sing to it" "It has no chorus" "It makes no sense"
Not all music is supposed to be fun pop verse, chorus, repeat. Sometimes like album covers music is made to make you think. Stevie was so masterful in describing her personal experience at a NYC hotel during 9/11. Like all poetry there are metaphors and indirect words, phrases, etc. I really appreciate Lindsey's craft of this song. The song puts you at unease and takes you down a path of uncertainty. That's the entire point of the song. I think the unease and uncertainty the song projects turns people off. When the band went on stage in NYC on the SYW tour they should have played it. People really expected a sing along chorus to 9/11 or a get up and dance number? I don't get it.

Since english is not my native language, sometimes I have a hard time understanding the lyrics. So the music it's the first thing I like in a song. There are singers easy to understand their lyrics. Christine is one of them. Some songs of Lindsey. Of all, Carpenters are the easiest to understand. But MJ and Elton are very difficult to me. Usually soft slow songs are easier but it is not an exact rule.

So as with other songs, the melody was the first thing I paid attention with "Illume (9-11)". It's not of a fave of mine, but yes after learning the lyrics, I liked more. I didn't like it that much probably because Stevie's voice at that time, and too much percussion for the song topic, IMHO. I thought then, what if she had sung it and the arrangements were more like Landslide, I think it would be more emotional. And if she had her 1975 voice, well, much more so.

If they had sung it live, I would have liked it to be more like when Lindsey played Say Goodbye at his Soundstage concert. It is much more moving.

[HomerMcvie]

The Eagle's Hole In The World is about 9/11, and it has a catchy chorus. Just sayin'...

[Macfan4life]

Since english is not my native language, sometimes I have a hard time understanding the lyrics. So the music it's the first thing I like in a song. There are singers easy to understand their lyrics. Christine is one of them. Some songs of Lindsey. Of all, Carpenters are the easiest to understand. But MJ and Elton are very difficult to me. Usually soft slow songs are easier but it is not an exact rule.

So as with other songs, the melody was the first thing I paid attention with "Illume (9-11)". It's not of a fave of mine, but yes after learning the lyrics, I liked more. I didn't like it that much probably because Stevie's voice at that time, and too much percussion for the song topic, IMHO. I thought then, what if she had sung it and the arrangements were more like Landslide, I think it would be more emotional. And if she had her 1975 voice, well, much more so.

If they had sung it live, I would have liked it to be more like when Lindsey played Say Goodbye at his Soundstage concert. It is much more moving.
Yes she definitely to explain some of the lyrics because some of it was so personal to her experience no one would ever know. Her referring to Osma Bin Ladin as a "shadow of a stranger" is brilliant. Just dissecting that phrase is terrifying. I sort of had the same feeling on 9/11 that it was like a river and never ending. The events just kept coming hour by hour and it kept getting worse. Is this the only Stevie song where she reveals being scared? Pretty revealing
I've listened to this album with headphones many times. This song has some great "FOHO" stuff (for headphones only).

[BLY]

I hate trying to narrowing it down because I like many of the post 1987 MAC songs by the 3.

Christine- As Long As You Follow- not even a 2nd thought

Stevie- Everybody Finds Out- however many other songs stand out for me like Thrown Down and Destiny Rules

Lindsey- Steal Your Heart Away and Bleed to Love Her are classic “band” songs

[sue]

Steal your heart away.
Sweet girl.
Bleed to love her.

Bleed to love her…is one of my favourite Fmac songs.

[Storms123]

As Long As You Follow
Sad Angel/Bleed To Love Her (Dance Version)
Everybody Finds Out ( I do like Without You-EP Version/Live Version got drowned out in the stories)

[GypsySorcerer]

LB - Bleed to Love Her (Dance), Steal your Heart Away
CM - As Long as You Follow, Behind the Mask
SN - Thrown Down, No Questions Asked

[FuzzyPlum]

Steal your heart away.
Sweet girl.
Bleed to love her.

Bleed to love her…is one of my favourite Fmac songs.

Yes…. Bleed to Love Her is one of my all time favourites.
Post 87, Lindsey has shown a capability of easily writing mainstream ear candy. I can’t remember what the context was, but I do recall him talking about ‘Fleetwood Maccy’ songs. I think it was around the time of Extended Play when he was trying to entice Stevie to make a FM album. I wonder whether he ever has regrets that he didn’t stay more mainstream in both his FM and solo music in the 70’s and early 80’s. Does he regret not making things more Fleetwood Maccy back in the day when he had the chance?

[Villavic]

I wonder whether he ever has regrets that he didn’t stay more mainstream in both his FM and solo music in the 70’s and early 80’s. Does he regret not making things more Fleetwood Maccy back in the day when he had the chance?

I don't know. It's a possibility. But if he does, what I'm sure is that he would never admit it.

[WalkAThinLine.]

I don't know. It's a possibility. But if he does, what I'm sure is that he would never admit it.

In regards to the previous question about Buckingham potentially having regrets about not doing more "Fleetwood Maccy" songs, he did somewhat touch upon this in an interview with Entertainment Weekly.

"In Fleetwood Mac, [I was] called upon to do more the rock side of things, but not necessarily the mid-tempo pretty stuff. I had that in me, and 'Trouble' was a good representation of that. I was covering a broader landscape musically."

https://ew.com/music/lindsey-buckingham-fleetwood-mac-stories-behind-the-songs/