'Creem Magazine' - FM Return Without Leaving' (Sept. 1987)

[greendaze5]

Uploaded to here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hn8eTrZHOEs1-PVMgziy3yOeYEXW0VNy/view?usp=sharing).

Interesting that when this interview was conducted, Lindsey was willing to tour for 'Tango in the Night' ("I'll do whatever needs to be done") and how 1987 was "gonna be a good year".

But in some other interview (done after he left the band?), he said that making 'Tango' was a horrible experience with everyone at their worst, and he couldn't imagine wanting to go on tour with them.

[HomerMcvie]

Why don't you just post the text here? Is the link monetized for you or something?
Seriously curious...

[greendaze5]

Why don't you just post the text here? Is the link monetized for you or something?
Seriously curious...

Seriously?! :mad:

I don't make a penny doing this. These are uploaded to my personal Google Drive which doesn't monetize. In fact, it's a hassle scanning, editing, and then making a PDF out of these old articles.

I only put them up as these haven't seen the light of day in decades, and I thought it'll be cool to share.

And I can't just 'post the text' as they're scans.

[vermicious knid]

This person is being kind enough to scan physical copies of old magazines and upload the images for people's enjoyment. If you know of a more reader-friendly way of doing that that is just as easy for the poster, is there a way you could suggest that without implying a grift? It is tacky as hell.

Thank you greendaze5! I have been enjoying your uploads.

[greendaze5]

This person is being kind enough to scan physical copies of old magazines and upload the images for people's enjoyment. If you know of a more reader-friendly way of doing that that is just as easy for the poster, is there a way you could suggest that without implying a grift? It is tacky as hell.

Thank you greendaze5! I have been enjoying your uploads.

Well said and appreciated - Thank you! :xoxo:

[dougl]

Such a fascinating time capsule. They really were all over the place. Thank you for posting.:thumbsup:

[Villavic]

I’m not convinced with Lindsey words, about Mirage was an “ambiguous album” and didn’t want to leave the Fleetwood Mac situation with Mirage. He, they, did Tango to help Mick, not for the band legacy. And from all articles I have read he was under strain and lost patience frequently.

I guess he said all that because at the interview moment he was in the mood to promote the album. It’s like when any artist release a new album, they usually say “this our best work ever!”.

[HomerMcvie]

Seriously?! :mad:

I don't make a penny doing this. These are uploaded to my personal Google Drive which doesn't monetize. In fact, it's a hassle scanning, editing, and then making a PDF out of these old articles.

I only put them up as these haven't seen the light of day in decades, and I thought it'll be cool to share.

And I can't just 'post the text' as they're scans.

In this digital age, nearly everything has been monetized. My friend makes nearly 1k/ month, from getting people to watch his instructional videos on YouTube. The news stations even put the details to all their stories in links, because they make money from people clicking on them. I guess I've just become suspicious of people asking to click on their links. I apologize.

[sleepless child]

Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this.

[Nathan]

"I'm not Bob Dylan, but every once in a while I've gotta say something." :laugh:

Thanks R.

[David]

Thanks for the share, greendaze5. These uploads bring back a lot of memories for me, including the photos that ran in the article. I had forgotten that Lindsey talked a little about sitting down with Brian and getting frustrated. AND he mentions “Walking in the Rain,” which I had forgotten about. Everyone, you need to listen to the Ronettes sing “Walking in the Rain,” which is absolutely gorgeous. It is so Lindsey that it’s uncanny. If you don’t think Lindsey was thinking about “Walking in the Rain” when he recorded “D.W. Suite,” you’re crazy!

[bombaysaffires]

Stevie called him and asked him about them doing a second BN album....:eek:

[aleuzzi]

I remember this article coming out. What I noticed is no new band photos and the photo for each member comes from an older shoot or tour.

I remember being shocked at how dismissive Lindsey seemed about the prospect of continuing with FM, and that worried me. By 1987 I’d figured out he was key to the band’s sound and that his energy would buoy them in concert. I also was counting on this album returning the band to a certain momentum, where every two years they put out an album, so I was neither pleased nor surprised when a few months later I heard on the radio that he quit and was replaced. It crushed me.

[BLY]

I remember this article coming out. What I noticed is no new band photos and the photo for each member comes from an older shoot or tour.

I remember being shocked at how dismissive Lindsey seemed about the prospect of continuing with FM, and that worried me. By 1987 I’d figured out he was key to the band’s sound and that his energy would buoy them in concert. I also was counting on this album returning the band to a certain momentum, where every two years they put out an album, so I was neither pleased nor surprised when a few months later I heard on the radio that he quit and was replaced. It crushed me.


Yes, I remember it the same way. There was no internet and we had to rely on “print coverage” for any updates. I remember looking for any information I could possibly find on the status of the band. Stevie’s interviews always stating “ I won’t leave my band” during her solo explosion from 1981-1983 kept the hope up but little did I know it was Lindsey that always had one foot out the door. Thrilled for Mirage….Surprised with Tango because of the pre press… was ..Where is Stevie? …and then Lindsey leave as the band.

[Macfan4life]

I enjoyed this because I never saw this article before. Its so revealing because its right before Lindsey leaves. You can read between the lines that Lindsey is not happy. He says "Stevie had her problems without being judgmental" LMAO
She was hard to pin down. She felt she had to go to Australia for some reason LMAO

[David]

There was no internet and we had to rely on “print coverage” for any updates. I remember looking for any information I could possibly find on the status of the band.

I was thrown for a loop when I saw Lindsey at the Long Beach Sports Arena in August 1986. He plugged the album — said it was the best thing the band had ever done and that it helped to heal the band (that was the word he used).

But then I wondered why Mick, who was there playing his conga drum during Stevie’s set, didn’t appear with Lindsey, too. Even the fact that Stevie and Lindsey did individual sets was weird. They were finishing an album, so why didn’t the three of them decide to do a group set instead of separate sets? And why couldn’t Chris and John come out and play at a Los Angeles benefit, where they both lived? Weird, weird, weird. If I reach back into memory, I recall just how off-kilter everything seemed, even without the internet communication channel. The vibe around the band was of troubled times ahead. The band members felt really disconnected from one another.

[Tusky]

Thanks for posting!
Do we know who the young, hot producer was who originally produced Tango?

[David]

Thanks for posting!
Do we know who the young, hot producer was who originally produced Tango?

Mo Austin and Mick reached out to Jason Corsaro (Power Station and Robert Palmer) and possibly to Nile Rogers (Chic).

That’s why Mick mentions the Power Station in his 1990 book.

[Villavic]

I guess you are missing those quotes from Mick's book, so her you go!

Since Mr. Buckingham was immersed in his own record, we felt it necessary to bring in an outside producer for the first time in years. First we met with Nile Rogers, but it didn't work out. Then Mo Ostin at Warners gave us some money to hire producer Jason Casaro from New York, who had coaxed such an astounding sound from the pickup band Power Station earlier that year. We booked into Studio One and held a week of glorified rehearsals without Stevie, who at the time was touring Australia with fellow Frontline client Tom Petty and Bob Dylan. (She appeared onstage with them a couple of times to sing "Knocking on Heaven's Door" until the authorities discovered she didn't have the right visa and prohibited her from performing.) Nothing came of these sessions; in fact, it took us about a week to realize that any outside producer who tried to harness the old Mac at that point was going to be in way over his head. So Mr. Casaro went home, and for a while in early 1986 it looked as if this record wasn't going to get made. In the end, to salvage the project, Lindsey and Richard decided to continue the now hallowed tradition of producing Fleetwood Mac themselves.

[jbrownsjr]

I guess you are missing those quotes from Mick's book, so her you go!

Since Mr. Buckingham was immersed in his own record, we felt it necessary to bring in an outside producer for the first time in years. First we met with Nile Rogers, but it didn't work out. Then Mo Ostin at Warners gave us some money to hire producer Jason Casaro from New York, who had coaxed such an astounding sound from the pickup band Power Station earlier that year. We booked into Studio One and held a week of glorified rehearsals without Stevie, who at the time was touring Australia with fellow Frontline client Tom Petty and Bob Dylan. (She appeared onstage with them a couple of times to sing "Knocking on Heaven's Door" until the authorities discovered she didn't have the right visa and prohibited her from performing.) Nothing came of these sessions; in fact, it took us about a week to realize that any outside producer who tried to harness the old Mac at that point was going to be in way over his head. So Mr. Casaro went home, and for a while in early 1986 it looked as if this record wasn't going to get made. In the end, to salvage the project, Lindsey and Richard decided to continue the now hallowed tradition of producing Fleetwood Mac themselves.

Which is what he (LB) wanted in the first place. Then realized, he was in over his head with harnessing people to actually work (besides Christine) . Ken at this point was out.

[David]

I guess you are missing those quotes from Mick's book, so her you go! Thank you, Villavic! And in Comic Sans, no less.

Then Mo Ostin at Warners gave us some money to hire producer Jason Casaro from New York, who had coaxed such an astounding sound from the pickup band Power Station earlier that year.I think Mick (or Stephen Davis) has the name wrong. There is a Jason Casaro in music, but I think the guy who started production on Tango was Jason Corsaro.

Nothing came of these sessions. I bet some of the outtake stuff on the Deluxe is from those sessions with Jason. When Lindsey’s producing, outtakes are scant because everything gets put on the tape machine at the last minute and probably gets taped over while he “paints.” “Ooh My Love” sounds unusual for a Lindsey + Richard demo. The instrumental side of it could come from the Power Station producer, with Stevie singing later. The “Mystified” instrumental demo may have come from that week, too, even though it’s just Chris and two DX-7 tracks at most.

[Villavic]

I wonder what Tango would have been like if Ken had also been in the production. At the Penguin Q&A Sessions 2001, he just answered "I stopped working with Fleetwood Mac in 1983 because they didn't ask me to do. I think it was something between me and Lindsey".