20th century Lindsey

[tz5632]

Hi there,

coming in August...

20th century Lindsey (http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=120890&sid=b7f93a08270c97bc4fc94ed2f82d3593)

At least eight rarities from the 20th century :thumbsup:

Tschoe
Tobi

[UnwindedDreams]

Hi there,

coming in August...

20th century Lindsey (http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=120890&sid=b7f93a08270c97bc4fc94ed2f82d3593)

At least eight rarities from the 20th century :thumbsup:

Tschoe
Tobi
Thank you for sharing. This is really disappointing. We had a great Anthology cd package in 2018. I would have loved his "new album" to have been out this August. It's coming up on three years since his last studio album. I doubt this box set will "make money".

[tz5632]

So, after a little digging I found the eight special rarities (as shown on the German amazon music):

Holiday road
Dancin' across the USA
Go insane (Extended Remix)
Slow dancing (Extended Version)
Time bomb town
Soul drifter (Radio Remix)
On the wrong side
Twisted

Slow dancing (Extended) can already be streamed... :cool:

And...it seems this compilation will be released in Germany mid-June

Tschoe
Tobias

[BLY]

So, after a little digging I found the eight special rarities (as shown on the German amazon music):

Holiday road
Dancin' across the USA
Go insane (Extended Remix)
Slow dancing (Extended Version)
Time bomb town
Soul drifter (Radio Remix)
On the wrong side
Twisted

Slow dancing (Extended) can already be streamed... :cool:

And...it seems this compilation will be released in Germany mid-June

Tschoe
Tobias


Nothing new for me here that I don’t already own . At least with Stevie’s box set her rarities cd was worth the purchase. (IMO)

[bwboy]

I’ll be buying this. Before Christine died, I had made the decision to purchase any material that was rereleased, in the hope that more material would be forthcoming, such as a Deluxe Edition of Behind the Mask, or blu-ray editions of concert videos, so I’m happy this is coming out.

[BLY]

I’ll be buying this. Before Christine died, I had made the decision to purchase any material that was rereleased, in the hope that more material would be forthcoming, such as a Deluxe Edition of Behind the Mask, or blu-ray editions of concert videos, so I’m happy this is coming out.

I’m sure I will end up buying it also with your point in mind.

[BigAl84]

I'm hoping this will be released on vinyl!

[BLY]

I'm hoping this will be released on vinyl!

It is going to be released on vinyl in June. First 500 copies signed by Lindsey. Go to rhino.com

[Villavic]

i'm only interested in the rarities, but first I'd like to listen them to know if they are worth it.

[BigAl84]

Rhino has done some vinyl reissues that sound amazing lately. Their most recent campaign of Little Feat reissues have been superb. I'm hoping these vinyl pressings will be just as great.

[Street_Dreamer]

Easy pre-order for me.

[UnwindedDreams]

It is going to be released on vinyl in June. First 500 copies signed by Lindsey. Go to rhino.com
Are they hand signed or does a machine print his signature on the item?

[lbfan]

Are they hand signed or does a machine print his signature on the item?
Hand signed.

[Straightback]

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/lindsey-buckingham-20th-century-lindsey/

[TrueFaith77]

The rarities should have included “I Want You Back”

[BLY]

The rarities should have included “I Want You Back”

Yes and the three tracks from the “This is 40” soundtrack.

[WalkAThinLine.]

I would have liked a few more rarities, including the "soft mix" for "Countdown" and some unreleased material, but this is cool nonetheless

[Andyleo]

At least Trouble should be the full length unedited version, not like on the Anthology remaster. Yay!:]

[lbfan]

Yes and the three tracks from the “This is 40” soundtrack.
These were not released until 2012 (21st Century Lindsey).

[BLY]

These were not released until 2012 (21st Century Lindsey).


Oh my bad, they could have called the rarities cd something else.😕

[bombaysaffires]

The rarities should have included “I Want You Back”

YES :nod:

[Villavic]

I would much rather have an expanded or deluxe edition of OOTC (ala those Mac 70s albums deluxes), not with radio remixes like the Tango deluxe, but with rehearsals, demo and alternative versions, etc.

[tango87]

I'll be buying this, it looks very nicely packaged.

Not a good name for it though. '20th Century Lindsey' would be fine for the title of an article on an online music journal, or even a thread here! But it seems too trivial and throwaway to me.

[bwboy]

Not a good name for it though. '20th Century Lindsey' would be fine for the title of an article on an online music journal, or even a thread here! But it seems too trivial and throwaway to me.

I guess the good thing about the title is it implies a second release at some point, entitled “21st Century Lindsey!”

[tango87]

I guess the good thing about the title is it implies a second release at some point, entitled “21st Century Lindsey!”

That's true! Luckily he's been pretty busy in this century too. I hope it also heralds something new soon.

[Street_Dreamer]

The rarities should have included “I Want You Back”

Mick probably wanted the full cut of the royalties (joking). There are probably rights issues with it since the I'm Not Me CD is now long out of print even though it was released 12 years ago.

[moon]

I think I need to buy it, even when the "rarities" CD is not that rare, and I have Law & Order and Out Of The Cradle on CD too (I have Go Insane only on cassette)

The real "rarities" were those first versions of some 2000s songs, those from the Gift Of Screws "demo" album...Weren't they recorded in the 90s, almost all of them?
Where's Wear You Down?? I need more Law & Order demos and rarities! :confused:

[BLY]

Mick probably wanted the full cut of the royalties (joking). There are probably rights issues with it since the I'm Not Me CD is now long out of print even though it was released 12 years ago.

I love this cd. I’m so glad I have it. I think Mick’s solo albums are all great. He really can put a band good band together.

[Street_Dreamer]

I think I need to buy it, even when the "rarities" CD is not that rare, and I have Law & Order and Out Of The Cradle on CD too (I have Go Insane only on cassette)

The real "rarities" were those first versions of some 2000s songs, those from the Gift Of Screws "demo" album...Weren't they recorded in the 90s, almost all of them?
Where's Wear You Down?? I need more Law & Order demos and rarities! :confused:

My guess is that there's no data for the record company to back up the idea that releasing an album consisting of demos and rare tracks for Lindsey would make any money. I would buy this release regardless but hopefully it does well so that a potential project like that would happen in the future.

[Villavic]

And...it seems this compilation will be released in Germany mid-June


iTunes mentions June 14 too, as release date.

[BLY]

This release makes no sense after the Anthology box set recent release.

[Villavic]

So it's already released as announced in his networks. I was listening it and have a question. Is the Soul Drifter Radio Remix an old one? I read it is a "remaster" so I understand it was released in the past, but I had never heard it before.

And I'm reading comments that the 2018 remasters sound better than these.

https://x.com/LBuckingham/status/1801603334110957923

[WalkAThinLine.]

So it's already released as announced in his networks. I was listening it and have a question. Is the Soul Drifter Radio Remix an old one? I read it is a "remaster" so I understand it was released in the past, but I had never heard it before.

And I'm reading comments that the 2018 remasters sound better than these.

https://x.com/LBuckingham/status/1801603334110957923

Yes, the radio remix was serviced to various adult contemporary radio stations in the US to my understanding. This mix was uploaded to YouTube around 2019, so it was not specifically made for the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d92QOTyWbw

[UnwindedDreams]

This release makes no sense after the Anthology box set recent release.
I agree. And it’s over three years since he released “I Don’t Mind” and announced his new album and tour of 2021. What’s going on?

[sleepless child]

According to Stevies new interview in Mojo magazine, Lindsey isn't in great health.

[HomerMcvie]

According to Stevies new interview in Mojo magazine, Lindsey isn't in great health.

Does she allude to what is the problem?

[sleepless child]

I just saw a snippet of the article on X. I did order it but don't have it yet. She said she doesn't think he can do a tour. Kind of sounds like maybe heart trouble or long Covid maybe. I am only guessing. So it sounds like they have been in touch.

[UnwindedDreams]

I just saw a snippet of the article on X. I did order it but don't have it yet. She said she doesn't think he can do a tour. Kind of sounds like maybe heart trouble or long Covid maybe. I am only guessing. So it sounds like they have been in touch.
Maybe she means what happened in 2019 with his heart.
Not directed at you but I doubt they are in touch. I don’t see Stevie as someone who would let something go. She wants to talk about how she supported him in the 70s but in my opinion, she doesn’t want to talk with him anymore.

[HomerMcvie]

Maybe she means what happened in 2019 with his heart.
Not directed at you but I doubt they are in touch. I don’t see Stevie as someone who would let something go. She wants to talk about how she supported him in the 70s but in my opinion, she doesn’t want to talk with him anymore.

I agree with this. I SERIOUSLY doubt that they're in touch. I think he'd be open to it, but don't think that she would be.

And she's so dumb, she probably thinks his heart episode was 6 months ago.

[sleepless child]

That is possible. She doesn't get dates or timelines right. Lol. This is supposed to be a new interview so I'm looking forward to reading it. Especially her thoughts on Lindsey. Wouldn't it be great if she told her side of the story on what happened with Lindsey. But we won't get that.

[HomerMcvie]

Especially her thoughts on Lindsey. Wouldn't it be great if she told her side of the story on what happened with Lindsey. But we won't get that.

She's the George Costanza of rock and roll.

[jmn3]

She's the George Costanza of rock and roll.

I’ve said she’s the Donald Trump of Fleetwood Mac but this works too. “It’s not a lie, if you believe it.”

[sleepless child]

Someone posted some of the new article including the comments about Lindsey's health in the Rumours forum

[John Run]

I must say that I am really enjoying the remix of Soul Drifter, having not been previously familiar with it. This mix brings to front some different parts of the song that had been buried.

The keyboards get pushed reveal a synth string pad from the late 80's or early 90s. Could be from the Fairlight II, but sounds a little more like a Roland or Yamaha patch from that time.

The bass part which shares some lineage with Hall & Oates' "I Can't Go for That" has been mixed further up and gives the song a more prominent groove.

The layers of percussion tracks get a little more simplified giving more prominence to the programmed snare and then the weaves of live and machine percussion come in an out with less obvious markings.

Some of the plucked sounds from the collection of stringed instrument tracks become less dominant, and the music box twinkling guitar sound gets to stand alone in distinct parts.

I adore the original version of Soul Drifter, but having recently discovered this alternate version, I am getting to hear the song in a new way that is pleasing me greatly.

[David]

I adore the original version of Soul Drifter, but having recently discovered this alternate version, I am getting to hear the song in a new way that is pleasing me greatly.

I listened to the first two albums the other day on Spotify. I was having trouble making out differences in the remastering or some of the different mixes. Everything sounded very faint to me, to begin with. I’ve heard that Spotify tampers with the volume of many albums, but I thought they usually drive it up, not down, toward distortion rather than away. Is it possible that Spotify lowered the volume, or did the engineering lower the volume to maneuver more room to work?

[WalkAThinLine.]

I must say that I am really enjoying the remix of Soul Drifter, having not been previously familiar with it. This mix brings to front some different parts of the song that had been buried.

The keyboards get pushed reveal a synth string pad from the late 80's or early 90s. Could be from the Fairlight II, but sounds a little more like a Roland or Yamaha patch from that time.

The bass part which shares some lineage with Hall & Oates' "I Can't Go for That" has been mixed further up and gives the song a more prominent groove.

The layers of percussion tracks get a little more simplified giving more prominence to the programmed snare and then the weaves of live and machine percussion come in an out with less obvious markings.

Some of the plucked sounds from the collection of stringed instrument tracks become less dominant, and the music box twinkling guitar sound gets to stand alone in distinct parts.

I adore the original version of Soul Drifter, but having recently discovered this alternate version, I am getting to hear the song in a new way that is pleasing me greatly.

The alternate mix of "Soul Drifter" is easily the best addition of the box set. Unlike the original, which has a far peppier percussion track, this one is more conventional. The bed of synth strings is also pleasing.

I wish that the soft mix of "Countdown" was also included in addition to some demos or unreleased material, but I'm glad that we got a few more songs that are now commercially available.

[Villavic]

He included Twisted, a song written by Stevie. I had preferred an alternative version, if any still exist out there, to fit more in the "rarities" qualification.

Would like to know how he decided to include that song.

[bombaysaffires]

He included Twisted, a song written by Stevie. I had preferred an alternative version, if any still exist out there, to fit more in the "rarities" qualification.

Would like to know how he decided to include that song.

Ugh. It feels like one of his "outreach to Stevie" nonsense moves.....Appeal to her ego or whatever. :eek:

[UnwindedDreams]

He included Twisted, a song written by Stevie. I had preferred an alternative version, if any still exist out there, to fit more in the "rarities" qualification.

Would like to know how he decided to include that song.
I think it was chosen because having Stevie's name in his advertisement for this set will help sell more.

And just as a fact, the Twister film soundtrack is not easy to find in stores. I'm guessing one could find it in a collector music store.

Soldier's Angel would have been cool but that's not a duet even though Lindsey's vocals are very much present. In Your Dreams is actually hard to find in stores now too.

[SteveMacD]

He included Twisted, a song written by Stevie. I had preferred an alternative version, if any still exist out there, to fit more in the "rarities" qualification.

Would like to know how he decided to include that song.

It’s the song that effectively pulled his and Mick Fleetwood’s careers out of the gutters?

[BigAl84]

It’s the song that effectively pulled his and Mick Fleetwood’s careers out of the gutters?

As if Stevie was playing arenas in 95/96....

[UnwindedDreams]

As if Stevie was playing arenas in 95/96....
Twisted was an enormous Top 10 hit. So kind of Stevie to call Lindsey to ask him to join her and produce this song. She is committed to charity.

[HomerMcvie]

She is committed to charity.

Well, she should be committed.

[SteveMacD]

As if Stevie was playing arenas in 95/96....

Twisted was an enormous Top 10 hit. So kind of Stevie to call Lindsey to ask him to join her and produce this song. She is committed to charity.

It meant Stevie was open to working with them, making a Fleetwood Mac reunion probable.

All Stevie really needed to do was lose weight, stop smoking, get a makeover, and do a post-Klonopin “Comeback” concert on MTV with celebrity guests (Sheryl, Dave, Eddie, Tom, Don, Courtney, Billy Corgan, etc). I doubt it would have been as durable as the Fleetwood Mac reunion, but she was the only one who could’ve gotten back to relevancy without The Dance.

[UnwindedDreams]

It meant Stevie was open to working with them, making a Fleetwood Mac reunion probable.

All Stevie really needed to do was lose weight, stop smoking, get a makeover, and do a post-Klonopin “Comeback” concert on MTV with celebrity guests (Sheryl, Dave, Eddie, Tom, Don, Courtney, Billy Corgan, etc). I doubt it would have been as durable as the Fleetwood Mac reunion, but she was the only one who could’ve gotten back to relevancy without The Dance.
At The Forum in 1990, Stevie cried next to Lindsey on stage and said she hoped he would work with her again. She called Lindsey in 1996 for help with the song Twisted because she needed help with the song's production, same as the need for help with Soldier's Angel in 2010.

I think Christine could have had a return to relevancy without The Dance.

What's the deal with saying Stevie needed to lose weight and get a makeover?

[SteveMacD]

At The Forum in 1990, Stevie cried next to Lindsey on stage and said she hoped he would work with her again. She called Lindsey in 1996 for help with the song Twisted because she needed help with the song's production, same as the need for help with Soldier's Angel in 2010.
And?

I think Christine could have had a return to relevancy without The Dance.
She would have had to get on a plane, first. Anyway, the vast bulk of Christine’s success was as part of Fleetwood Mac.

What's the deal with saying Stevie needed to lose weight and get a makeover?
It’s a reality of the entertainment industry. She looked horrible at the inauguration and not great in 1994.

[UnwindedDreams]

And?


She would have had to get on a plane, first. Anyway, the vast bulk of Christine’s success was as part of Fleetwood Mac.


It’s a reality of the entertainment industry. She looked horrible at the inauguration and not great in 2014.
I have no words for that last sentence especially 2014. Stevie is always beautiful. That year was the launch of Stevie’s entrance to the young social media generation. Very “get off my lawn” sounding sentence.

You said in 1996 Stevie showed she was open to working with Lindsey and Mick. And? That’s not entirely true. Stevie was open to working with Lindsey 6 years earlier in 1990. It was Mick she was mad at after the BTM tour because she wasn’t permitted to include SS on TS.

[SteveMacD]

I have no words for that last sentence especially 2014. Stevie is always beautiful. That year was the launch of Stevie’s entrance to the young social media generation. Very “get off my lawn” sounding sentence.
I meant 1994 and corrected the post.

You said in 1996 Stevie showed she was open to working with Lindsey and Mick. And? That’s not entirely true. Stevie was open to working with Lindsey 6 years earlier in 1990. It was Mick she was mad at after the BTM tour because she wasn’t permitted to include SS on TS.

Which is why I said “Lindsey and Mick.”

“Twisted” was their way of letting the world (i.e. MTV, Clear Channel, promoters) know Fleetwood Mac -the one people remember- were open for business.

[David]

All Stevie really needed to do was lose weight, stop smoking, get a makeover, and do a post-Klonopin “Comeback” concert on MTV with celebrity guests (Sheryl, Dave, Eddie, Tom, Don, Courtney, Billy Corgan, etc). I doubt it would have been as durable as the Fleetwood Mac reunion, but she was the only one who could’ve gotten back to relevancy without The Dance.

According to Mike Bise in his Mirror Mirror fanzine, this is exactly what Stevie was planning to do — a full-length documentary and concert for Lifetime (or one of the other cable networks in the day) to stage a comeback. The business offices were moving forward with plans, but of course they were canceled as the full-on Mac reunion started revving up.

I was actually looking forward to the plans for the documentary and concert. She was recording with some producer known for his hip-hop credentials, probably hoping to increase her appeal.

In 1995, she had the fateful conversation with Don Was on the airplane. Apparently, he was the guy who convinced her to get going again — start writing, start playing, join the human race again, like Dolly Levi. Her three appearances in 1996 (Ft. Lauderdale, Boston, Columbia) were the result of that conversation.

[bwboy]

Just a reminder that the 20th Century Lindsey Buckingham CD set will be available for purchase August 15, I believe.

And of course, the long awaited full release of the Mirage Concert CD will be released Sept 20.

In November, the Christine McVie biography will come out, and in December, another Fleetwood Mac book will be released.

Kind of a lot of activity at one time.

[HomerMcvie]

Just a reminder that the 20th Century Lindsey Buckingham CD set will be available for purchase August 15, I believe.

And of course, the long awaited full release of the Mirage Concert CD will be released Sept 20.

In November, the Christine McVie biography will come out, and in December, another Fleetwood Mac book will be released.

Kind of a lot of activity at one time.
Mick will be bringing FM back to the forefront, with neutered
Lindsey, and hologram Christine!