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BigAl84
01-16-2024, 09:18 AM
The live at the forum release appears to have been a big success. Is anyone else hoping for a follow up release from the vaults? My hope is for the 1980 Hollywood Bowl shows or the complete Omaha or Kansas City '80 shows that they've already released a few songs from.

jbrownsjr
01-16-2024, 11:10 AM
I would love a Bare Trees Tour (live collection). They were so damn good!

Macfan4life
01-16-2024, 11:36 AM
Shoot me but how about an entire Mirage show with Hold Me and Sara!

bwboy
01-16-2024, 11:56 AM
Shoot me but how about an entire Mirage show with Hold Me and Sara!

Don’t forget Brown Eyes!!

I’m still hoping for a Behind the Mask Deluxe Edition. Or even a retrospective of that brief 1987-1990 era, along with the Patrick Leonard-produced Love Shines and Heart of Stone songs by Christine. They did tape their concert at Red Rocks for the BTM tour, so the video or even just the audio would be wonderful to have. As Long As You Follow, LS, HOS, Do You Know, Save Me, Behind the Mask, heck I even love Skies the Limit- a Deluxe Edition would almost seem like a tribute to Christine.

jbrownsjr
01-16-2024, 11:58 AM
Don’t forget Brown Eyes!!

I’m still hoping for a Behind the Mask Deluxe Edition. Or even a retrospective of that brief 1987-1990 era, along with the Patrick Leonard-produced Love Shines and Heart of Stone songs by Christine. They did tape their concert at Red Rocks for the BTM tour, so the video or even just the audio would be wonderful to have. As Long As You Follow, LS, HOS, Do You Know, Save Me, Behind the Mask, heck I even love Skies the Limit- a Deluxe Edition would almost seem like a tribute to Christine.

I love all of this!!! :blob1:

David
01-16-2024, 03:48 PM
The live at the forum release appears to have been a big success. Is anyone else hoping for a follow up release from the vaults? My hope is for the 1980 Hollywood Bowl shows or the complete Omaha or Kansas City '80 shows that they've already released a few songs from.

Does a bear crap in the woods? Of course I am, Al. Last year’s Forum concert has been in my car deck for four months. In fact, I’m getting a little sick of it. Ready for another one.

If it’s gonna be 1982, I hope it’s one of these, in order of preference:


Irvine Meadows with Don Henley on “Leather and Lace”
Detroit
The Meadowlands
East Troy


Those happen to be my favorite nights, from what I can glean from old recordings. Irvine and Detroit, especially, were very good nights for Nicks, who soared.

If it’s another tour, several make good sense for this reason or that:


Trod Nossel 1975
Forum 1975 with the Trojans
Santa Barbara 1976
Los Angeles 1976 (with sneak peeks at Rumours)

Macfan4life
01-16-2024, 05:39 PM
Don’t forget Brown Eyes!!

I’m still hoping for a Behind the Mask Deluxe Edition. Or even a retrospective of that brief 1987-1990 era, along with the Patrick Leonard-produced Love Shines and Heart of Stone songs by Christine. They did tape their concert at Red Rocks for the BTM tour, so the video or even just the audio would be wonderful to have. As Long As You Follow, LS, HOS, Do You Know, Save Me, Behind the Mask, heck I even love Skies the Limit- a Deluxe Edition would almost seem like a tribute to Christine.
Oh Well and Landslide too!

This would be Lindsey's final Oh Well.

oh well...

UnwindedDreams
01-16-2024, 06:31 PM
I’m still hoping for a Behind the Mask Deluxe Edition. Or even a retrospective of that brief 1987-1990 era, along with the Patrick Leonard-produced Love Shines and Heart of Stone songs by Christine. They did tape their concert at Red Rocks for the BTM tour, so the video or even just the audio would be wonderful to have. As Long As You Follow, LS, HOS, Do You Know, Save Me, Behind the Mask, heck I even love Skies the Limit- a Deluxe Edition would almost seem like a tribute to Christine.
They would release a live album of the 2018-2019 Tour before they released live material of the 1987-1990 lineup. Given they didn't touch any Behind The Mask songs or "new tracks" from the Greatest Hits album on the last tour leads me to believe they've chosen to remove that time period from their memories. That was Klonopin time for Stevie too.

I would like a BTM Deluxe Edition but I don't think it will ever happen.

UnwindedDreams
01-16-2024, 06:32 PM
Oh Well and Landslide too!

This would be Lindsey's final Oh Well.
His final Oh Well with Christine in the band, right?

Hawkeye
01-16-2024, 06:35 PM
Oh Well and Landslide too!

This would be Lindsey's final Oh Well.

oh well...


They played oh well in 2009

aleuzzi
01-16-2024, 09:14 PM
They played oh well in 2009

And it was damn good, too.

aleuzzi
01-16-2024, 09:15 PM
I would love a Bare Trees Tour (live collection). They were so damn good!

Totally. That bootleg audio of "The Ghost" floating around on YouTube is great.

jbrownsjr
01-17-2024, 08:39 AM
Totally. That bootleg audio of "The Ghost" floating around on YouTube is great.

I listen to that one a lot!

Wdm6789
01-17-2024, 11:04 AM
Shoot me but how about an entire Mirage show with Hold Me and Sara!

^ This please. I love 1982 live Sara. I also want to hear 1987 or 1988 live Sara. They played it at a few shows in Europe on the Tango tour. I’ve heard bootlegs of it before and it sounded really cool and different with Rick and Billy on guitar. I got the bootleg from here years ago, but I can’t find it anymore.


Does a bear crap in the woods? Of course I am, Al. Last year’s Forum concert has been in my car deck for four months. In fact, I’m getting a little sick of it. Ready for another one.

If it’s gonna be 1982, I hope it’s one of these, in order of preference:


Irvine Meadows with Don Henley on “Leather and Lace”
Detroit
The Meadowlands
East Troy


Those happen to be my favorite nights, from what I can glean from old recordings. Irvine and Detroit, especially, were very good nights for Nicks, who soared.

I wish there was a video of that Leather and Lace. It would be so cool to see Stevie, Don, Christine, and Lindsey all playing together. I’ve heard the audio and they only had Christine and Lindsey doing keyboard and guitar, right? I don’t remember hearing any drums or bass.

jbrownsjr
01-17-2024, 11:07 AM
^ This please. I love 1982 live Sara.




I wish there was a video of that Leather and Lace. It would be so cool to see Stevie, Don, Christine, and Lindsey all playing together. I’ve heard the audio and they only had Christine and Lindsey doing keyboard and guitar, right? I don’t remember hearing any drums or bass.

Where is the audio?

Wdm6789
01-17-2024, 11:22 AM
Where is the audio?

I either found it on YouTube or it was on a bootleg someone posted on here. I’ll look for it on YouTube and comment a link if I find it.

jbrownsjr
01-17-2024, 11:48 AM
I either found it on YouTube or it was on a bootleg someone posted on here. I’ll look for it on YouTube and comment a link if I find it.

I do think I've heard it recently. But, can't remember which media.

Macfan4life
01-18-2024, 04:49 AM
I either found it on YouTube or it was on a bootleg someone posted on here. I’ll look for it on YouTube and comment a link if I find it.
Yes. It was on youtube and I posted it here several months ago. If it is still there check out the Mirage show in NJ. That version of Sara is just as good as Tusk ones. She hits the highest of high notes during her ooooooooo ooooooooo oooooooo's
Its just an amateur recording and it sounds great. I can only imagine what a professional recording would sound like.
The 1988 Sara is like a Sasquatch in the woods. Often spoken about but never seen or heard.

Edit: I could not find NJY anymore but I found Memphis. Not as good as NJ but still good. I think this is the concert where Stevie finds out Robin died. So her vocals are a bit rough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R51YKmXo0T8

dougl
01-18-2024, 10:24 AM
Totally. That bootleg audio of "The Ghost" floating around on YouTube is great.

https://youtu.be/TBTeuvaQCdk?si=J_BX6HwL5Ta04qJB

So good, another great jam.

jbrownsjr
01-18-2024, 10:29 AM
https://youtu.be/TBTeuvaQCdk?si=J_BX6HwL5Ta04qJB

So good, another great jam.

I've been obsessed with this version. :thumbsup:

BigAl84
01-18-2024, 11:01 AM
https://youtu.be/TBTeuvaQCdk?si=J_BX6HwL5Ta04qJB

So good, another great jam.

This is great, thanks for the link!

jbrownsjr
01-18-2024, 11:12 AM
This is great, thanks for the link!

You can really hear the keys, bass, and drums. Realizing how good this band was at grooving and playing whatever the writer threw at them.

jmn3
01-18-2024, 01:11 PM
Yes. It was on youtube and I posted it here several months ago. If it is still there check out the Mirage show in NJ. That version of Sara is just as good as Tusk ones. She hits the highest of high notes during her ooooooooo ooooooooo oooooooo's
Its just an amateur recording and it sounds great. I can only imagine what a professional recording would sound like.
The 1988 Sara is like a Sasquatch in the woods. Often spoken about but never seen or heard.

Edit: I could not find NJY anymore but I found Memphis. Not as good as NJ but still good. I think this is the concert where Stevie finds out Robin died. So her vocals are a bit rough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R51YKmXo0T8

Oh youve sent me down the memory lane wormhole this morning! Memphis 1982 was one of the first bootlegs I ever owned. I paid someone $10 on eBay and they burned me a CD (my god how old am I?) and mailed it complete with a printed label and artwork for the case. It’s a bit rough and certainly less polished than what had originally pulled me into the 1982 live stuff which was the snippets of the Mirage Video I had been able to see over the years on the net long before YouTube and high speed internet!

Lindsey sounds absolutely sloshed by the end of the show. GYOW is interesting and where he brings the solo to a close and plays the bass riff or whatever you want to call it (the da-da-dada-da-daaa-da—-dadada daaaaaaaaa ….lol don’t any of you musicians come at me for this abomination, you know what I’m talking about!) is a bit of a shambles. He also sounds pretty hammered during Blue Letter “eryvoithyoueverheewwerd” which cracks me up.

I love how every show was different in the “before” times. You play me any song from a 2009 show or a 2014 show and I’d with a few exceptions not know the difference at all.

HomerMcvie
01-18-2024, 01:56 PM
I love how every show was different in the “before” times. You play me any song from a 2009 show or a 2014 show and I’d with a few exceptions not know the difference at all.

That's because of the not so lovely karaoke tracks they play with now. The song always has to be the same length, and the speed can't vary, because the click track can't vary.

I'd pay extra for a NO TRACKS show. Gimme da warts and all!

jmn3
01-18-2024, 02:04 PM
That's because of the not so lovely karaoke tracks they play with now. The song always has to be the same length, and the speed can't vary, because the click track can't vary.

I'd pay extra for a NO TRACKS show. Gimme da warts and all!

Same! It’s too predictable and too boring. Makes events like the night that Mick got sick in Nebraska so interesting. Not that GYOW was THAT much different that night but it had a few warts (Steve had a small misstep at the end of the first solo that he had to work through because the rest of the band was just going on) which just gave it a little semblance of actual life.

BigAl84
01-18-2024, 02:08 PM
I love how every show was different in the “before” times. You play me any song from a 2009 show or a 2014 show and I’d with a few exceptions not know the difference at all.

That's actually my biggest criticism of the band between '97-'15. The Rumours, Tusk, and Mirage tours all had a distinct sound to them which is great. Lindsey's guitar tone has largely been unchanged since '97. It would have been nice if they had spent a bit more time trying to brush the dust off of the same arrangement for Dreams they've been using since '97 etc.

I was listening to Sisters Of The Moon from the 2014 tour and it really stood out to me how diminished Lindsey's guitar parts are. He's just strumming chords for 90% of the song. That amazing guitar solo from '79-'82 was entirely absent. Everyone knew Stevie wasn't going to be able to have the same vocal intensity she did 40 years ago, all the more reason to boost the song with all of the amazing guitar work that used to be there. The 2014 version never made sense to me. IMO, the biggest disappointment of any of their songs that have made a return to the set after decades of absence.

The same thing applies to Rhiannon. It's like they forgot all about that amazing solo that came after the "dreams unwind" segment of the song.

I always wondered if there was some sort of comment made about Lindsey's guitar overshadowing her songs/performances.

Macfan4life
01-18-2024, 03:08 PM
Oh youve sent me down the memory lane wormhole this morning! Memphis 1982 was one of the first bootlegs I ever owned. I paid someone $10 on eBay and they burned me a CD (my god how old am I?) and mailed it complete with a printed label and artwork for the case. It’s a bit rough and certainly less polished than what had originally pulled me into the 1982 live stuff which was the snippets of the Mirage Video I had been able to see over the years on the net long before YouTube and high speed internet!

Lindsey sounds absolutely sloshed by the end of the show. GYOW is interesting and where he brings the solo to a close and plays the bass riff or whatever you want to call it (the da-da-dada-da-daaa-da—-dadada daaaaaaaaa ….lol don’t any of you musicians come at me for this abomination, you know what I’m talking about!) is a bit of a shambles. He also sounds pretty hammered during Blue Letter “eryvoithyoueverheewwerd” which cracks me up.

I love how every show was different in the “before” times. You play me any song from a 2009 show or a 2014 show and I’d with a few exceptions not know the difference at all.
OMG so true. The performances were so much more organic and surprising those days. Mick even alludes to this in his first book but about the Tusk tour. He wrote something like some nights we were messy and off while other nights they were so tight and played the best they ever played. Plus in those days you never knew how Stevie was going to be. Was she going to be so high that her performance was impacted. Her Wild Heart tour and RAL tour were like that. One night was really good and then there were nights that were incoherent and scary. But hey, its rock and roll.
I saw one of the early Tango shows and during the end of Blue Letter, Stevie says into the mic "new ending." I think the band messed up or something but most of the audience did not catch it. There is such a less likely chance of any of that happening today. This is why I love the US Festival performance so much. They went on last and were so drunk and high after partying all day and each song has flubs. I love it! Its a very messy performance and we only have gotten to see like only 5 songs. Can you imagine what the other songs have in store?

Macfan4life
01-18-2024, 03:15 PM
That's actually my biggest criticism of the band between '97-'15. The Rumours, Tusk, and Mirage tours all had a distinct sound to them which is great. Lindsey's guitar tone has largely been unchanged since '97. It would have been nice if they had spent a bit more time trying to brush the dust off of the same arrangement for Dreams they've been using since '97 etc.

I was listening to Sisters Of The Moon from the 2014 tour and it really stood out to me how diminished Lindsey's guitar parts are. He's just strumming chords for 90% of the song. That amazing guitar solo from '79-'82 was entirely absent. Everyone knew Stevie wasn't going to be able to have the same vocal intensity she did 40 years ago, all the more reason to boost the song with all of the amazing guitar work that used to be there. The 2014 version never made sense to me. IMO, the biggest disappointment of any of their songs that have made a return to the set after decades of absence.

The same thing applies to Rhiannon. It's like they forgot all about that amazing solo that came after the "dreams unwind" segment of the song.

I always wondered if there was some sort of comment made about Lindsey's guitar overshadowing her songs/performances.
Yes, the Mac gave up their arena rock in the Dance days forward for a much more "like the record" approach to their live stuff. Personally I love it when they rock out. But I think I am in the minority on this board. Those Lindsey parts at the end of the Chain and Sisters really were something. Although I'm So Afraid and GYOW still have those rock endings. Lindsey's guitar licks on YMLF were insane live. But even those got tamer The Dance and post Dance. When Over My Head finally went back in the set, they went with the album version and abandoned their more upbeat live version.

HomerMcvie
01-18-2024, 07:27 PM
I always wondered if there was some sort of comment made about Lindsey's guitar overshadowing her songs/performances.

I think it's this. He's been the show forever, but even more so as her hip got bad, and she wasn't able to spin around like a drunken sailor. And yet he was rocking out harder than he was 40 years previous! He was out shining her, and how dare he? So they neutered his rocking her songs out.

vivfox
01-18-2024, 10:45 PM
I want a complete Tusk show from May or June 1980. And please make sure the live Rhiannon is just as good or better than the one released from Tuscon from August of 1980.

BigAl84
01-18-2024, 11:03 PM
I was blasting the crap out of the Richfield ‘80 audience recording the other day. I love how that recording sounds, it’s like you’re in the arena. I definitely wouldn’t mind the full soundboard show being released.

BigAl84
01-18-2024, 11:09 PM
I found this online, I’ve seen a lot of tusk tour show advertisements and this is the first one I’ve seen with the illustration of the band.

https://i.postimg.cc/zv4BZFSf/IMG-3970.jpg

jbrownsjr
01-19-2024, 08:41 AM
I think it's this. He's been the show forever, but even more so as her hip got bad, and she wasn't able to spin around like a drunken sailor. And yet he was rocking out harder than he was 40 years previous! He was out shining her, and how dare he? So they neutered his rocking her songs out.

That's exactly why he just sat there and strummed. :(

Villavic
01-19-2024, 09:24 AM
Was it usual that the Tusk tour shows ads contain that phrase "Taking the job to Tusk"?

jbrownsjr
01-19-2024, 09:26 AM
I found this online, I’ve seen a lot of tusk tour show advertisements and this is the first one I’ve seen with the illustration of the band.

https://i.postimg.cc/zv4BZFSf/IMG-3970.jpg

I remember cutting these out of the paper.

aleuzzi
01-19-2024, 10:49 AM
How about rereleasing the Rhino release of the 1974 soundboards. THIS time, without cutting Christine’s excellent piano solo on Bermuda Triangle.

jbrownsjr
01-19-2024, 10:54 AM
How about rereleasing the Rhino release of the 1974 soundboards. THIS time, without cutting Christine’s excellent piano solo on Bermuda Triangle.

Don't get me started!

aleuzzi
01-20-2024, 02:04 AM
Don't get me started!

I honestly don’t think they knew the fuller version existed. It was such a half-assed move!

Wdm6789
01-20-2024, 06:32 AM
Yes. It was on youtube and I posted it here several months ago. If it is still there check out the Mirage show in NJ. That version of Sara is just as good as Tusk ones. She hits the highest of high notes during her ooooooooo ooooooooo oooooooo's
Its just an amateur recording and it sounds great. I can only imagine what a professional recording would sound like.
The 1988 Sara is like a Sasquatch in the woods. Often spoken about but never seen or heard.

Edit: I could not find NJY anymore but I found Memphis. Not as good as NJ but still good. I think this is the concert where Stevie finds out Robin died. So her vocals are a bit rough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R51YKmXo0T8

I know the 1988 Sara exists because I listened to it when someone was posting bootlegs on here. I think it was in 2017 or 2018, when someone was posting the bootlegs on here because I was living in a different city and I remember listening to those bootlegs in my other apartment. I’d just to hear that Sara again, but I can’t find the posts. Or wasn’t there a tumblr that posted bootlegs? Goldduststevie may have been the username, or something similar? Is tumblr still even a thing? I haven’t been on there in years. Or I kind of remember Blue Letter being referenced in a username that may have posted bootlegs?

Sorry for rambling, I’m just trying to remember lol.

Penguin Emeritus
01-20-2024, 09:19 AM
I remember cutting these out of the paper.

oh how i wish we'd been friends as teens. i still have my folder of stuff i cut from magazines and newspapers back in the day, i refuse to trash it. i thought i was the only one who lived in fleetwood mac world !! it was a lonely existence lol

--Lis

HomerMcvie
01-20-2024, 11:44 AM
oh how i wish we'd been friends as teens. i still have my folder of stuff i cut from magazines and newspapers back in the day, i refuse to trash it. i thought i was the only one who lived in fleetwood mac world !! it was a lonely existence lol

--Lis
I too have a folder of all my clippings. When I moved a year ago, I did discover that my Tusk tour book had been ruined by a flood(it's all stuck together). I still couldn't stand to throw it away...

aleuzzi
01-20-2024, 01:17 PM
oh how i wish we'd been friends as teens. i still have my folder of stuff i cut from magazines and newspapers back in the day, i refuse to trash it. i thought i was the only one who lived in fleetwood mac world !! it was a lonely existence lol

--Lis

I desperately sought out others who showed even a fraction of my interest. When I discovered the diehard fans here in 2000, I knew I’d found the tribe I’d been seeking. We argue, we differ, but most of us have heard all the pre-75 albums and that is more than I can say for 99.9999% of the world.

Macfan4life
01-20-2024, 02:20 PM
I know the 1988 Sara exists because I listened to it when someone was posting bootlegs on here. I think it was in 2017 or 2018, when someone was posting the bootlegs on here because I was living in a different city and I remember listening to those bootlegs in my other apartment. I’d just to hear that Sara again, but I can’t find the posts. Or wasn’t there a tumblr that posted bootlegs? Goldduststevie may have been the username, or something similar? Is tumblr still even a thing? I haven’t been on there in years. Or I kind of remember Blue Letter being referenced in a username that may have posted bootlegs?

Sorry for rambling, I’m just trying to remember lol.
I never said the 1988 Sara did not exist. I know it exists because its mentioned in the Greatest Hits album talking about Stevie all dressed in red singing Sara in Europe in 1988. I was in shock when I read that in 1988. I meant that everything else has ended up on YouTube even in the worst form. That is what I meant by "Sasquatch in the woods" Its spoken about but most of us have never heard even a horrible bootleg of it. If my memory is correct, it was not performed the entire European leg only a few nights which makes it even more elusive.

Macfan4life
01-20-2024, 02:26 PM
oh how i wish we'd been friends as teens. i still have my folder of stuff i cut from magazines and newspapers back in the day, i refuse to trash it. i thought i was the only one who lived in fleetwood mac world !! it was a lonely existence lol

--Lis
I trashed all mine but I did the same as you as jbrownsjr. I would clip anything mention of the band and tape it to my wall. My friends would laugh at me for doing so. I can remember the smell of the newspaper on Sunday mornings and I would run to the entertainment section. I would cut out the Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks concert ads. Stevie's Wild Heart show used the album cover but mostly that photo of her smiling pulling her hair at the end. I would also chart all the songs and albums. This is how I can remember trivia about the band because of all those quick drops before each song on the countdown shows.
I hung on to some very vintage posters that were stored at my parents house for decades. I could not throw them away and sold them on Ebay many years ago. I had the ORIGINAL Tusk poster, ORIGINAL 1976 poster and a very rare Stevie Nicks Tusk photo printed in England. I had never seen any like it before. There was a record store in my home town that used to have it on the wall. It was there for years. One day I asked to buy it and they sold it to me.

HomerMcvie
01-20-2024, 02:43 PM
I desperately sought out others who showed even a fraction of my interest. When I discovered the diehard fans here in 2000, I knew I’d found the tribe I’d been seeking. We argue, we differ, but most of us have heard all the pre-75 albums and that is more than I can say for 99.9999% of the world.

Now, let's call a spade a spade. EVERYONE except BWBOI has heard pre 75 stuff.




:D

bwboy
01-20-2024, 03:18 PM
Now, let's call a spade a spade. EVERYONE except BWBOI has heard pre 75 stuff.




:D

Not really, HomoMcvie- when I saw Fleetwood Mac on their last tour, they performed Tell Me All the Things You Do, Black Magic Woman, and Oh Well, plus I saw footage on YouTube where they performed Hypnotized and Man of the World. And I’ve heard Station Man, Why, Sentimental Lady, Spare Me a Little, Albatross, etc.

aleuzzi
01-20-2024, 04:34 PM
Not really, HomoMcvie- when I saw Fleetwood Mac on their last tour, they performed Tell Me All the Things You Do, Black Magic Woman, and Oh Well, plus I saw footage on YouTube where they performed Hypnotized and Man of the World. And I’ve heard Station Man, Why, Sentimental Lady, Spare Me a Little, Albatross, etc.

Well, you've heard some good songs.

But I have to say I'm not cool with the "Homo" comment.

HomerMcvie
01-20-2024, 05:08 PM
Not really, HomoMcvie- when I saw Fleetwood Mac on their last tour, they performed Tell Me All the Things You Do, Black Magic Woman, and Oh Well, plus I saw footage on YouTube where they performed Hypnotized and Man of the World. And I’ve heard Station Man, Why, Sentimental Lady, Spare Me a Little, Albatross, etc.

You heard them so you could see your queen.

HomerMcvie
01-20-2024, 05:10 PM
Well, you've heard some good songs.

But I have to say I'm not cool with the "Homo" comment.

Probably strike worthy, although those don't seem to happen any more.

bwboy
01-20-2024, 05:41 PM
Well, you've heard some good songs.

But I have to say I'm not cool with the "Homo" comment.

Thanks! They are great songs.

He always refers to me as Bwboi, feminizing ny name, hence I return the favor. A lot of folks are sensitive to pronouns, and to not being misgendered. I believe the saying ‘two wrongs don’t make a right,’ but in this case, why not? If I take the high road, he just continues it.

Villavic
01-20-2024, 05:45 PM
I don't own pre-75 albums, except Bare Trees. But I have listened some pre-75 stuff. I also have a Youtube playlist with all pre-75 Christine Mac songs.

HomerMcvie
01-20-2024, 06:24 PM
Thanks! They are great songs.

He always refers to me as Bwboi, feminizing ny name, hence I return the favor. A lot of folks are sensitive to pronouns, and to not being misgendered. I believe the saying ‘two wrongs don’t make a right,’ but in this case, why not? If I take the high road, he just continues it.

Aren't you a 50yo man, going by boy? I'm not sure that a y or an i changes anything.

Feminizing?:lol:

Penguin Emeritus
01-20-2024, 06:46 PM
I trashed all mine but I did the same as you as jbrownsjr. I would clip anything mention of the band and tape it to my wall. My friends would laugh at me for doing so. I can remember the smell of the newspaper on Sunday mornings and I would run to the entertainment section. I would cut out the Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks concert ads. Stevie's Wild Heart show used the album cover but mostly that photo of her smiling pulling her hair at the end. I would also chart all the songs and albums. This is how I can remember trivia about the band because of all those quick drops before each song on the countdown shows.
I hung on to some very vintage posters that were stored at my parents house for decades. I could not throw them away and sold them on Ebay many years ago. I had the ORIGINAL Tusk poster, ORIGINAL 1976 poster and a very rare Stevie Nicks Tusk photo printed in England. I had never seen any like it before. There was a record store in my home town that used to have it on the wall. It was there for years. One day I asked to buy it and they sold it to me.

wow. i have several original posters still hanging up and some are rolled and stored. i used to cut out the tiny HBO concert ads also!! to this day, if anything about FM appears in print, my mother will cut and save for me :D I cannot bring myself to toss anything. the only stuff i trashed were awful b/w photocopies of color pics that i made in the library when I was 13...but other than that i have a cabinet and walk in closet full of FM stuff. it's crazy.

My daughter has said, 'you know, i really don't want all this sh*t when you die' but i told her she could make some $ off it if she sells in the right forums!

--Lis

aleuzzi
01-21-2024, 01:08 AM
Thanks! They are great songs.

He always refers to me as Bwboi, feminizing ny name, hence I return the favor. A lot of folks are sensitive to pronouns, and to not being misgendered. I believe the saying ‘two wrongs don’t make a right,’ but in this case, why not? If I take the high road, he just continues it.

Well, as a gay man, I’m not at all cool with “homo” being banded about on a public message board. Whatever thing you and Homer have going on, I hope you can work that out privately.

HomerMcvie
01-21-2024, 02:48 AM
Well, as a gay man, I’m not at all cool with “homo” being banded about on a public message board. Whatever thing you and Homer have going on, I hope you can work that out privately.

I'll pass. He seems to have regular "misunderstandings" here.

No hate. Just my own warped sense of humor. As usual.

Macfan4life
01-21-2024, 06:05 AM
wow. i have several original posters still hanging up and some are rolled and stored. i used to cut out the tiny HBO concert ads also!! to this day, if anything about FM appears in print, my mother will cut and save for me :D I cannot bring myself to toss anything. the only stuff i trashed were awful b/w photocopies of color pics that i made in the library when I was 13...but other than that i have a cabinet and walk in closet full of FM stuff. it's crazy.

My daughter has said, 'you know, i really don't want all this sh*t when you die' but i told her she could make some $ off it if she sells in the right forums!

--Lis
Ha ha. I also cut out those tiny HBO photos for the concert. Back in the day HBO would have those monthly magazines like TV guides for what was coming on HBO that month. I've told this story before but I actually wrote a 2 page letter to HBO asking them to re-air the Mirage concert. HBO programming executive actually wrote me back. It was a puff letter stating they knew the concert was popular and that it was possible for it to air again someday in the future. It never happened. Gosh it would be hysterical if I had copy of that letter today. But please let me put it in perspective. We had no VCR to tape it nor rent it from the video store. We did not even have MTV. So my letter was more a cry for help :lol:
Me, you and jbrownsjr were all 14 seeing Christine McVie on her solo tour in different cities. How many 14 year olds did that. We were far ahead of our time!

UnwindedDreams
01-21-2024, 08:40 AM
Well, as a gay man, I’m not at all cool with “homo” being banded about on a public message board.
Thank you for standing for us. I never knew Boi was feminine! I always thought it was a phrase by Flavor Flav: "Yeah Boiiiiii!"
Also part of the names for fantastic rappers Playboi Carti and Big Boi!

HomerMcvie
01-21-2024, 11:26 AM
Thank you for standing for us. I never knew Boi was feminine! I always thought it was a phrase by Flavor Flav: "Yeah Boiiiiii!"
Also part of the names for fantastic rappers Playboi Carti and Big Boi!

Even though I'm accused of knowing it, I too never knew the i made it feminine. #themoreyouknow

Penguin Emeritus
01-21-2024, 03:26 PM
Ha ha. I also cut out those tiny HBO photos for the concert. Back in the day HBO would have those monthly magazines like TV guides for what was coming on HBO that month. I've told this story before but I actually wrote a 2 page letter to HBO asking them to re-air the Mirage concert. HBO programming executive actually wrote me back. It was a puff letter stating they knew the concert was popular and that it was possible for it to air again someday in the future. It never happened. Gosh it would be hysterical if I had copy of that letter today. But please let me put it in perspective. We had no VCR to tape it nor rent it from the video store. We did not even have MTV. So my letter was more a cry for help :lol:
Me, you and jbrownsjr were all 14 seeing Christine McVie on her solo tour in different cities. How many 14 year olds did that. We were far ahead of our time!

we were indeed ahead of our time, quite advanced in our musical tastes!

i remember that blasted HBO concert. we did not have HBO in my house but my wealthier friend down the road did. do i had to scrounge up money to buy a Maxell tape and begged them to pleeeeeease record it if they could. my friend said it depended on if her parents were watching something else, because if they were, it was doubtful she'd be able to record anything. and i don't recall she ever could do it lol even though i let her keep the maxell tape for future airings....but like you said, there weren't many...(or any?) I was so upset. I don't think I saw that until it eventually appeared on tape in the videostore. at that point i had rented the Tusk documentary so many times i had it memorized :laugh:

wow how did you survive without MTV or a VCR?? yikes. good for you for writing that letter though. I once wrote to warner brothers in 1982 trying to get FM autographs and they sent me back a shiny white folder with a few bio pages of the group, as well as a black/white 8x10 of the band. i was thrilled.

kids today have no idea of the struggle it was for us...!

--Lis

HomerMcvie
01-21-2024, 03:34 PM
we were indeed ahead of our time, quite advanced in our musical tastes!

i remember that blasted HBO concert. we did not have HBO in my house but my wealthier friend down the road did. do i had to scrounge up money to buy a Maxell tape and begged them to pleeeeeease record it if they could. my friend said it depended on if her parents were watching something else, because if they were, it was doubtful she'd be able to record anything. and i don't recall she ever could do it lol even though i let her keep the maxell tape for future airings....but like you said, there weren't many...(or any?) I was so upset. I don't think I saw that until it eventually appeared on tape in the videostore. at that point i had rented the Tusk documentary so many times i had it memorized :laugh:

wow how did you survive without MTV or a VCR?? yikes. good for you for writing that letter though. I once wrote to warner brothers in 1982 trying to get FM autographs and they sent me back a shiny white folder with a few bio pages of the group, as well as a black/white 8x10 of the band. i was thrilled.

kids today have no idea of the struggle it was for us...!

--Lis

Mirage was the first REAL "movie" I bought. On Betamax! I was quite the visionary! I still have it somewhere. Somebody made me a vhs copy of the Tusk doc.

vivfox
01-21-2024, 04:26 PM
Now, let's call a spade a spade. EVERYONE except BWBOI has heard pre 75 stuff.


Not really, HomoMcvie-


Here's a good trio of Attorney's if either of you need good representation :lol:

HomerMcvie
01-21-2024, 05:02 PM
Here's a good trio of Attorney's if either of you need good representation :lol:

I can win this battle of wits with my goat tied behind my back.

justcrazylove
01-21-2024, 07:24 PM
Aren't you a 50yo man, going by boy? I'm not sure that a y or an i changes anything.

Feminizing?:lol:

Are you actually fuc*ing kidding me... Homer, I am normally pretty easygoing on your constant sh*t posting of everyone and anything. I as a gay man know the nature of your sense of humor but 'boi' is a used term to indicate the feminizing of twinks.

You playing the offended card is laughable when you and your merry band of followers are vicious misogynists on this board.

HomerMcvie
01-21-2024, 07:36 PM
Are you actually fuc*ing kidding me... Homer, I am normally pretty easygoing on your constant sh*t posting of everyone and anything. I as a gay man know the nature of your sense of humor but 'boi' is a used term to indicate the feminizing of twinks.

You playing the offended card is laughable when you and your merry band of followers are vicious misogynists on this board.

I see people use boi all the time, and had no idea of the difference.

And disliking $tevie does not a misogynistic make.

DownOnRodeo
01-21-2024, 08:19 PM
Here's a good trio of Attorney's if either of you need good representation :lol:

They came first place in the baah exam.

HomerMcvie
01-21-2024, 08:27 PM
They came first place in the baah exam.

Don't make me get a goatstraining order against you.

vivfox
01-21-2024, 11:20 PM
They came first place in the baah exam.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::woohoo:
Don't make me get a goatstraining order against you.

:laugh::wavey:

justcrazylove
01-23-2024, 11:05 PM
and just like that... your bullsh*t ruins another thread.

jbrownsjr
01-24-2024, 08:43 AM
and just like that... your bullsh*t ruins another thread.

How about a triple live album from Wild Heart, Go Insane and Christine McVie.

Deluxe packaging.

Wdm6789
01-24-2024, 11:03 AM
I never said the 1988 Sara did not exist. I know it exists because its mentioned in the Greatest Hits album talking about Stevie all dressed in red singing Sara in Europe in 1988. I was in shock when I read that in 1988. I meant that everything else has ended up on YouTube even in the worst form. That is what I meant by "Sasquatch in the woods" Its spoken about but most of us have never heard even a horrible bootleg of it. If my memory is correct, it was not performed the entire European leg only a few nights which makes it even more elusive.

Several years ago, I think 2017ish, someone was posting bootlegs on here from several shows from every tour. That is how I heard live Sara from 1988. I cannot find the posts though.

HomerMcvie
01-24-2024, 11:21 AM
and just like that... your bullsh*t ruins another thread.

What about all the "regulars" here posting goat lyrics? Are you enjoying those? I hope so. :woohoo:

jbrownsjr
01-24-2024, 01:43 PM
What about all the "regulars" here posting goat lyrics? Are you enjoying those? I hope so. :woohoo:

How about a live Bob Weston album? :wavey:

HomerMcvie
01-24-2024, 03:06 PM
How about a live Bob Weston album? :wavey:

It's a little late for that. He's DEAD!

jbrownsjr
01-24-2024, 04:15 PM
It's a little late for that. He's DEAD!

Rhino could bring him back. Deluxe Weston!

jbrownsjr
01-24-2024, 04:37 PM
Several years ago, I think 2017ish, someone was posting bootlegs on here from several shows from every tour. That is how I heard live Sara from 1988. I cannot find the posts though.

They did Sara Live on the Shakin' Tour???? I did not know.

Murrow
01-24-2024, 07:27 PM
I want nothing else from Rhino unless it's post-Tango (or individual releases of the 70-74 remasters).

BLY
01-24-2024, 08:28 PM
I want nothing else from Rhino unless it's post-Tango (or individual releases of the 70-74 remasters).

I agree we have all we need from 1975-1987 Fleetwood Mac.

HomerMcvie
01-24-2024, 09:41 PM
I agree we have all we need from 1975-1987 Fleetwood Mac.

The FULL Mirage tour DVD is all I want. No edits, either. Live soundboard audio, with all the missing songs included.

Villavic
01-25-2024, 07:55 AM
with all the missing songs included.

Specially those!

Wdm6789
01-25-2024, 12:17 PM
The FULL Mirage tour DVD is all I want. No edits, either. Live soundboard audio, with all the missing songs included.

^ Yes! This!

I’d also love the full video of their US Festival concert.

They did Sara Live on the Shakin' Tour???? I did not know.

They only did Sara at a few shows on the European leg of that tour.

Mr Scarrott
01-25-2024, 01:04 PM
Fwiw, I would like a decent recording from the 2014/15 tour as an album, also including Seven Wonders, Sara, Think about me, and Bleed to Love her. Aside from the Isle of Wight festival, it doesn't look as if there was any professionally-shot footage from that tour, which is a shame. I wonder if they recorded the stuff that got shown on the big screens. I so wish they could have taken the lower pay-day on offer from Glastonbury. Fat chance of that!

Yes, I know that they weren't at their peak, but for those of us Ledgies who only ever got to see the five of them on that tour (their previous appearance in the UK was 1980, aside from the Brits mini-set) and had given up all hope of Christine returning, it would be a great memento.

Villavic
01-25-2024, 02:51 PM
Fwiw, I would like a decent recording from the 2014/15 tour as an album

I'd agree if "decent" includes decent voices performance. As I said before, I wasn't so satisfied with the NJ Prudential Center show sound, plus there voices were not that good as in the past. And that was in the beginning of the tour. That's when I thought it would be the last time I'd see them.

But this GYOW performance is really bad. Lindsey's voice didn't sound like that in NJ Oct. 2014. Even his guitar segment sucks here. I've seen some BuckVie videos where he sounded, not so good but better than this 2015 video.

Go Your Own Way (Live 2015) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyGBT75fAY4)

Mr Scarrott
01-25-2024, 04:08 PM
I'd agree if "decent" includes decent voices performance. As I said before, I wasn't so satisfied with the NJ Prudential Center show sound, plus there voices were not that good as in the past. And that was in the beginning of the tour. That's when I thought it would be the last time I'd see them.

But this GYOW performance is really bad. Lindsey's voice didn't sound like that in NJ Oct. 2014. Even his guitar segment sucks here. I've seen some BuckVie videos where he sounded, not so good but better than this 2015 video.

Go Your Own Way (Live 2015) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyGBT75fAY4)

That was after a week or so when a couple of nights were postponed or cancelled, due to illness within the bad. Yes, Lindsey does sound rougher than normal.

HomerMcvie
01-25-2024, 04:15 PM
Yeah, he sounds really rough on that!

BigAl84
01-25-2024, 04:43 PM
Assuming they recorded every night because they could do so easily without piles of tape, I bet they would create a live album or dvd by cherry picking the best performances from the tour and then do some post-production polishing.

It would be cool to see a 2013-2015 box set. Include a full show from both tours (compiled from the tour). It would be cool to have a nice live version of Sad Angel, Without You, and Christine's Don't Stop performance in London.

jmn3
01-25-2024, 06:29 PM
Yeah, he sounds really rough on that!

I assumed they were all sick before that Isle of Wight show. But I think the official recording was always off a bit. It seemed sluggish and they sounded worse than normal. Found this on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo_7oj4wkT4 which claims to have corrected the sound issues on other posts of the 3 songs officially released from that show.