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jbrownsjr
10-05-2023, 01:30 PM
I didn't know it was ever on the charts. But, it is "Forbes"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2023/10/05/fleetwood-mac-returns-to-the-billboard-charts-as-songbird-flies-again/?fbclid=IwAR10OFGhRcW0-Sy2rXb-6JPqpysoBZCV8FKNFzLTxpK6_OXfJ2UonJB-yTA&sh=5aa7dc964e5b
Villavic
10-05-2023, 02:14 PM
Why is there a recent increase in sales this week?
jbrownsjr
10-05-2023, 02:35 PM
Why is there a recent increase in sales this week?
Because Homer and Bwboy were fighting about it. And everyone listens to them. :laugh::wavey:
HomerMcvie
10-05-2023, 02:39 PM
Because Homer and Bwboy were fighting about it. And everyone listens to them. :laugh::wavey:
When Homer speaks, people listen....
:lol::lol::lol:
jbrownsjr
10-05-2023, 02:42 PM
When Homer speaks, people listen....
:lol::lol::lol:
Actually, only bwboy listens to you. The rest of us???? ehhhh.. :xoxo::wavey:
I love ya Homie.
In Your Dreams
10-05-2023, 02:48 PM
I didn't know it was ever on the charts. But, it is "Forbes"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2023/10/05/fleetwood-mac-returns-to-the-billboard-charts-as-songbird-flies-again/?fbclid=IwAR10OFGhRcW0-Sy2rXb-6JPqpysoBZCV8FKNFzLTxpK6_OXfJ2UonJB-yTA&sh=5aa7dc964e5b
I’ve noticed it recently on the iTunes chart (All Genres not just the Rock chart) and I wasn’t sure why it appeared there all of the sudden. I didn’t see anything with the Rumours Live release that’s used Songbird to promote it.
aleuzzi
10-05-2023, 02:54 PM
I didn't know it was ever on the charts. But, it is "Forbes"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2023/10/05/fleetwood-mac-returns-to-the-billboard-charts-as-songbird-flies-again/?fbclid=IwAR10OFGhRcW0-Sy2rXb-6JPqpysoBZCV8FKNFzLTxpK6_OXfJ2UonJB-yTA&sh=5aa7dc964e5b
This news makes me so happy and sad at the same time. I’m feeling a sweet sadness. The very feeling Christine’s voice often evokes….
HomerMcvie
10-05-2023, 04:24 PM
Actually, only bwboy listens to you. The rest of us???? ehhhh.. :xoxo::wavey:
I love ya Homie.
And that John guy who pops in here like once a year, and has his MASSIVE TANTRUM, then storms off.:D
I love you too, John Boy.:xoxo:
jbrownsjr
10-05-2023, 04:34 PM
And that John guy who pops in here like once a year, and has his MASSIVE TANTRUM, then storms off.:D
I love you too, John Boy.:xoxo:
C'mon now. bwboy is a true FM fan. He buy a Stevie Barbie, but that other guy makes love to his Barbie doll.
Tony makes love to his Bob Welch doll.
HomerMcvie
10-05-2023, 04:38 PM
C'mon now. bwboy is a true FM fan. He buy a Stevie Barbie, but that other guy makes love to his Barbie doll.
Tony makes love to his Bob Welch doll.
BW boi is probably the reason The Old Goat Barbie is sold out. He probably invested his life savings into buying up as many dolls as he could.
Does Tony's Bob Welch doll have the toupee or not?
jbrownsjr
10-05-2023, 04:42 PM
BW boi is probably the reason The Old Goat Barbie is sold out. He probably invested his life savings into buying up as many dolls as he could.
Does Tony's Bob Welch doll have the toupee or not?
Leave bwboy alone! He's my BTM buddy.
Tony's Bob Welch doll has a book in his hand and a drink in the other.
WalkAThinLine.
10-05-2023, 06:23 PM
Looking at the page views for Songbird on Wikipedia, it experienced a massive spike in views on September 26th. From September 14th-25th, the daily page views for "Songbird" ranged from 231-416. On the September 26th, the page experienced 2,518 views.
I'm unaware of how this occurred, although other songs in their discography have also experienced unexplained brief spikes in popularity. During the week of 21 October 2021 - 27 October 2021, "Tango in the Night" (the song, not the album) entered the UK Singles Download chart at #26. "The Edge of Seventeen" also happened to be at #11 on the same chart that week.
https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-downloads-chart/20211022/7000/
DownOnRodeo
10-05-2023, 09:02 PM
Looking at the page views for Songbird on Wikipedia, it experienced a massive spike in views on September 26th. From September 14th-25th, the daily page views for "Songbird" ranged from 231-416. On the September 26th, the page experienced 2,518 views.
I'm unaware of how this occurred, although other songs in their discography have also experienced unexplained brief spikes in popularity. During the week of 21 October 2021 - 27 October 2021, "Tango in the Night" (the song, not the album) entered the UK Singles Download chart at #26. "The Edge of Seventeen" also happened to be at #11 on the same chart that week.
https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-downloads-chart/20211022/7000/
The unexplained surge of Tango (the song) is probably from this:
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WalkAThinLine.
10-05-2023, 09:37 PM
The unexplained surge of Tango (the song) is probably from this:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PQbWPLW5tqY?si=MsgJOMfP1GiMiBIb" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I did not know that. Thank you.
Speaking of which, it appears that "Songbird" was performed on The Voice in late September, so we found our answer. https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/alexa-wildish-s-fleetwood-mac-blind-audition-on-the-voice-gets-to-niall-horan/ar-AA1hi4oe
SteveMacD
10-05-2023, 09:50 PM
Does Tony's Bob Welch doll have the toupee or not?
Toupee? That thing was a wig.
Bob Welch’s career was destroyed by corporate. They tried making him be more like Rick Springfield and made his music crippling bland.
HomerMcvie
10-05-2023, 09:52 PM
Toupee? That thing was a wig.
Bob Welch’s career was destroyed by corporate. They tried making him be more like Rick Springfield and made his music crippling bland.
Tomato tomahto. Looked like a raccoon passed away on his noggin.
SteveMacD
10-05-2023, 11:57 PM
Tomato tomahto. Looked like a raccoon passed away on his noggin.
If you look closely, four eyes are staring at you on the back cover of his 1983 album.
1983…Twelve years after Future Games. He went from completely unknown to respected musician to up and comer to getting his due respect to becoming a hard to watch has been.
HomerMcvie
10-06-2023, 12:17 AM
If you look closely, four eyes are staring at you on the back cover of his 1983 album.
1983…Twelve years after Future Games. He went from completely unknown to respected musician to up and comer to getting his due respect to becoming a hard to watch has been.
People love to prey to the commercial gods. When he saw FM EXPLODE, I'm sure he wondered if he'd held them back, or what. Now it was his turn to try for the big deal. Rug and all. He didn't have the it factor to make it happen. Life's tough...
BrownEyedGirl26
10-06-2023, 01:16 AM
Actually, only bwboy listens to you. The rest of us???? ehhhh.. :xoxo::wavey:
I love ya Homie.
Hi jbrownsjr, I must agree with you here! :lol::laugh::wavey::xoxo:
dougl
10-06-2023, 07:56 AM
Why is there a recent increase in sales this week?
I think this had something to do with it.
https://youtu.be/6lb6rKskJKA
jbrownsjr
10-06-2023, 08:20 AM
People love to prey to the commercial gods. When he saw FM EXPLODE, I'm sure he wondered if he'd held them back, or what. Now it was his turn to try for the big deal. Rug and all. He didn't have the it factor to make it happen. Life's tough...
He did, if he would have stuck to French Kiss like material. He just kept getting bland or really left of Welch center.
She's Changing Me could have been a hit under later 70's circumstances.
jbrownsjr
10-06-2023, 08:22 AM
I think this had something to do with it.
https://youtu.be/6lb6rKskJKA
Wow, the crowd knows the song. Amazing.
DownOnRodeo
10-06-2023, 08:40 AM
I think this had something to do with it.
https://youtu.be/6lb6rKskJKA
Seems to be more a rendition of the Eva Cassidy interpretation. Still Christine's song of course.
jbrownsjr
10-06-2023, 10:10 AM
Seems to be more a rendition of the Eva Cassidy interpretation. Still Christine's song of course.
The judge actually said the name "Christine McVie" which thrilled me.
DownOnRodeo
10-06-2023, 10:59 PM
The judge actually said the name "Christine McVie" which thrilled me.
Doesn't take much to woo you.:xoxo:
bwboy
10-08-2023, 02:10 AM
BW boi is probably the reason The Old Goat Barbie is sold out.
Ah, it’s been awhile since I’ve been made fun of for being gay LOL. Kind of like when someone called Ellen DeGeneres “Ellen Degenerate!”
I know Jbrownsjr, I know, Homer was kidding, I’m sensitive, and he doesn’t name call people here, etc. Not a problem for me, I just thought I’d acknowledge to Homer I saw his comment, I took it for exactly what it was, and moved on.
HomerMcvie
10-08-2023, 08:06 AM
Ah, it’s been awhile since I’ve been made fun of for being gay LOL. Kind of like when someone called Ellen DeGeneres “Ellen Degenerate!”
I know Jbrownsjr, I know, Homer was kidding, I’m sensitive, and he doesn’t name call people here, etc. Not a problem for me, I just thought I’d acknowledge to Homer I saw his comment, I took it for exactly what it was, and moved on.
I'm not making fun of you for being gay. I'm making fun of you for your "$tevie blinders". $he could murder your family, and you'd still defend her...:woohoo::):wavey:
Villavic
10-08-2023, 08:10 AM
$he could murder your family,
I wonder if you put her at Lucrezia Borgia's or Livia Drusilla's level.
jbrownsjr
10-08-2023, 02:29 PM
Ah, it’s been awhile since I’ve been made fun of for being gay LOL. Kind of like when someone called Ellen DeGeneres “Ellen Degenerate!”
I know Jbrownsjr, I know, Homer was kidding, I’m sensitive, and he doesn’t name call people here, etc. Not a problem for me, I just thought I’d acknowledge to Homer I saw his comment, I took it for exactly what it was, and moved on.
I'm truly joking around. I know you are sensitive, but was hoping you'd laugh at the chiffon jokes. Not my intent to hurt anyone's feelings.
aleuzzi
10-08-2023, 05:26 PM
People love to prey to the commercial gods. When he saw FM EXPLODE, I'm sure he wondered if he'd held them back, or what. Now it was his turn to try for the big deal. Rug and all. He didn't have the it factor to make it happen. Life's tough...
This is a very accurate summation of his post FM career. He had talent, was creative, original, capable, but he lacked visual charisma and his whole image was, well, more cerebral than anything else. I like the first three solo albums a lot, especially the second one. But even they are an acquired taste. He was best at being himself, and his music, no matter how he tried, could never sustain immense popularity. I prefer him when he indulges in the tastefully weird.
For what it’s worth, mainstream success is a hard mistress. Even the handsome and wildly-talented Lindsey has struggled for recognition outside of FM.
Macfan4life
10-08-2023, 05:56 PM
Ah, it’s been awhile since I’ve been made fun of for being gay LOL. Kind of like when someone called Ellen DeGeneres “Ellen Degenerate!”
I know Jbrownsjr, I know, Homer was kidding, I’m sensitive, and he doesn’t name call people here, etc. Not a problem for me, I just thought I’d acknowledge to Homer I saw his comment, I took it for exactly what it was, and moved on.
Some can dish it out but they cant take it. They melt faster than a snowflake.
bwboy
10-08-2023, 06:29 PM
I'm truly joking around. I know you are sensitive, but was hoping you'd laugh at the chiffon jokes. Not my intent to hurt anyone's feelings.
I do laugh at the chiffon jokes. You don’t call people names, jbrownsjr. I take issue with the BW boi crack, or when Homer calls people idiots. I don’t complain to the mods behind his back, I just acknowledge to him I saw his post.
Macfan4life, I don’t mind being compared to a snowflake, since that seems to be the motto of MAGA believers, so I consider that a compliment.
I can dish it out and take it; what I don’t do is name calling
jbrownsjr
10-09-2023, 12:26 PM
I do laugh at the chiffon jokes. You don’t call people names, jbrownsjr. I take issue with the BW boi crack, or when Homer calls people idiots. I don’t complain to the mods behind his back, I just acknowledge to him I saw his post.
Macfan4life, I don’t mind being compared to a snowflake, since that seems to be the motto of MAGA believers, so I consider that a compliment.
I can dish it out and take it; what I don’t do is name calling
I'm 99% sure Macfan was not referring to you, BWBOY.
Now, how about Christine McVie, our Songbird.
bwboy
10-09-2023, 01:57 PM
I'm 99% sure Macfan was not referring to you, BWBOY.
Now, how about Christine McVie, our Songbird.
Geez, I really feel like a jerk now. When I first read your comment that you were 99% sure Macfan4life wasn’t referring to me, I thought you were crazy. But I know you’re not a BSer, jbrownsjr, so I know you wouldn’t just say that unless you meant it. And frankly, I was so irritated at the situation, I must have read the comment all wrong. So I apologize to you Macfan4life, for taking my frustration out on you. Even though we disagree a lot about FM and SN (Talk to Me is a good song!) I enjoy reading your take on things and the way you bring up thoughtful subjects and topics. I hate that I got defensive and sincerely hope you accept my apology. I would have sent you a message but I really wanted to accept responsibility in front of everyone.
Christine McVie was wonderful. I saw her with FM three times- BTM in 1990, the Dance in 1996, and the last FM tour in 2019 (or 2018, whenever it was). The last tour I saw her with FM, she was the highlight of the concert. I pointed out out at the time that her stage presence had strengthened so much since 1996, and the only reason I could think of was because of her tour with Lindsey the year before. Seeing her come out from behind the keyboard and take center stage for some songs was a new thing to see, and she seemed to love it.
IÂ’m very excited to buy the rerelease of her 1984 album in November. Preorders are available now, and hopefully there will be more stuff from the archives released soon.
Villavic
10-09-2023, 04:26 PM
Not my video cause my old little camera wasn't good enough to record (though great pics I did get!), but it's so emotional to watch again the last time I saw her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTuE1LLx5MU
SteveMacD
10-09-2023, 06:52 PM
Geez, I really feel like a jerk now. When I first read your comment that you were 99% sure Macfan4life wasn’t referring to me, I thought you were crazy.
I’m staying out of this other than to say I read it the same way and was confused.
jbrownsjr
10-10-2023, 07:55 AM
Geez, I really feel like a jerk now. When I first read your comment that you were 99% sure Macfan4life wasn’t referring to me, I thought you were crazy. But I know you’re not a BSer, jbrownsjr, so I know you wouldn’t just say that unless you meant it. And frankly, I was so irritated at the situation, I must have read the comment all wrong. So I apologize to you Macfan4life, for taking my frustration out on you. Even though we disagree a lot about FM and SN (Talk to Me is a good song!) I enjoy reading your take on things and the way you bring up thoughtful subjects and topics. I hate that I got defensive and sincerely hope you accept my apology. I would have sent you a message but I really wanted to accept responsibility in front of everyone.
Christine McVie was wonderful. I saw her with FM three times- BTM in 1990, the Dance in 1996, and the last FM tour in 2019 (or 2018, whenever it was). The last tour I saw her with FM, she was the highlight of the concert. I pointed out out at the time that her stage presence had strengthened so much since 1996, and the only reason I could think of was because of her tour with Lindsey the year before. Seeing her come out from behind the keyboard and take center stage for some songs was a new thing to see, and she seemed to love it.
IÂ’m very excited to buy the rerelease of her 1984 album in November. Preorders are available now, and hopefully there will be more stuff from the archives released soon.
You don't need to apologize for anything. We were teasing you and it didn't come off correctly.
And, anyone would read Macfan's as referring to you. But, my gut tells me that macfan was referring to someone else. I could be wrong. But it's over now and we can continue our points of view, hold hands and run through the crystaline hills. :lol::thumbsup:
DownOnRodeo
10-10-2023, 09:12 AM
Not my video cause my old little camera wasn't good enough to record (though great pics I did get!), but it's so emotional to watch again the last time I saw her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTuE1LLx5MU
Thanks for sharing, that is bittersweet.
Had my crystal ball been working better, I would have somehow tried to see them on that tour.
aleuzzi
10-10-2023, 09:22 AM
Thanks for sharing, that is bittersweet.
Had my crystal ball been working better, I would have somehow tried to see them on that tour.
In 2014, she still sang very well for her age. There is a lot of warmth in that vocal—and she pitched nicely.
By 2018, she seemed exhausted and much frailer.
jbrownsjr
10-10-2023, 10:33 AM
In 2014, she still sang very well for her age. There is a lot of warmth in that vocal—and she pitched nicely.
By 2018, she seemed exhausted and much frailer.
I wonder if she was getting treatments. That would definitely hinder voice.
Macfan4life
10-10-2023, 11:36 AM
I’m staying out of this other than to say I read it the same way and was confused.
Steve
You misinterpret everything I say around here. Bwboy is no snowflake but someone else is.
Macfan4life
10-10-2023, 11:40 AM
I do laugh at the chiffon jokes. You don’t call people names, jbrownsjr. I take issue with the BW boi crack, or when Homer calls people idiots. I don’t complain to the mods behind his back, I just acknowledge to him I saw his post.
Macfan4life, I don’t mind being compared to a snowflake, since that seems to be the motto of MAGA believers, so I consider that a compliment.
I can dish it out and take it; what I don’t do is name calling
I am not referring to you. You have grit and not a snowflake.
Some of you need a program book or reference guide to keep up around here.
Although the strangest thing that happened to me once here is I was threatened to not engage someone around here because I had not been around long enough. There is more jealousy on this board than a Buck/Vie concert with Stevie in the audience. But I am never jealous. I am the warm, lovable one with a sense of humor that no one gets.
aleuzzi
10-10-2023, 11:55 AM
I wonder if she was getting treatments. That would definitely hinder voice.
I think that was part of it. Also, that 2014-15 tour was huge. While I know Mick wanted to reconquer the planet, and make (to lose) more millions, that tour took its toll on all of them.
More recording, less touring—that’s my motto for older artists.
jbrownsjr
10-10-2023, 12:42 PM
I think that was part of it. Also, that 2014-15 tour was huge. While I know Mick wanted to reconquer the planet, and make (to lose) more millions, that tour took its toll on all of them.
More recording, less touring—that’s my motto for older artists.
And then she went right into BuckVie (finish) then tour, Classics: East West, then Lindsey firing, then 2018 tour.
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