Article: “ Stevie Nicks Sees ‘No Reason’ to Continue Fleetwood Mac”

[deluge]

Brand new article: “Stevie Nicks Sees ‘No Reason’ to Continue Fleetwood Mac”

From the article:

When asked if she could envision the group touring again after the death of Christine McVie, her longtime friend and bandmate, the "Edge of Seventeen" singer, 75, told Vulture, "There's no reason to.”

"When Christine died, I felt like you can't replace her. You just can't. Without her, what is it? You know what I mean?" Nicks said.


https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/stevie-nicks-sees-reason-continue-fleetwood-mac-after-103669033

I can understand how she feels. But have to say: Fleetwood Mac toured without Christine in in 2003, 2009 and 2013. Stevie and the rest of the band was totally okay with touring without Christine then. They didn’t need to “replace” her. Stevie didn’t say “what’s the point?” then. I saw all three of those tours and they were spectacular. Of course, I was thrilled when Christine announced she was rejoining the band in 2014 and loved seeing her with the “original 5” lineup on the 2014 tour. I can understand Stevie sad about losing her friend. But I’m not buying into this “what’s the point” from Stevie now. I feel like she’s just continuing to be difficult, after many years of being difficult and stubborn about new FM music and about everything that went down with firing Lindsey.

I used to be a big fan of Stevie. Not these days.

[HomerMcvie]

While I generally loathe her now, she finally made a classy decision. And she's right. There is no reason to continue. Christine is dead. Lindsey was fired. John is done...

JESUS CHRIST, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO SEE, TO SEE THAT IT'S OVER? There's no reason to continue with just Mick and Stevie. And bringing Lindsey back would be ridiculous, after the humiliating manner in which he was fired.

Let it go. It's okay. All good things come to an end. Accept it.

[aleuzzi]

And there’s nothing to revive anyway. Even if all five of them were alive and rearing to go, what would be the point?

I’ll still listen to and purchase Lindsey albums, should he continue to make them. That’s about it…

[sleepless child]

I totally agree. Her final years are going to be all about her. She's finally used up Fleetwood mac and ready to throw them away.

[jbrownsjr]

I totally agree. Her final years are going to be all about her. She's finally used up Fleetwood mac and ready to throw them away.

Seems like it was the plan all along.

[HomerMcvie]

Seems like it was the plan all along.

Growing up, when Stevie heard other singers singing "me, me, me", she didn't realize they were just warming up...

[jbrownsjr]

Growing up, when Stevie heard other singers singing "me, me, me", she didn't realize they were just warming up...

Please capitalize STEVIE going forward. You've been warned. :mad:

[BigAl84]

As I'm thinking about all of this further...it just reeks of her using Christine as an excuse. Instead of speaking to the elephant in the room, she's choosing to use Christine as her primary talking point and reasoning.

[jbrownsjr]

As I'm thinking about all of this further...it just reeks of her using Christine as an excuse. Instead of speaking to the elephant in the room, she's choosing to use Christine as her primary talking point and reasoning.

Took you long enough... :wavey:

[BigAl84]

I just cant get the thought out of my head that between 2003-early 2013 did we EVER hear Christine's name voluntarily mentioned EVEN ONCE from Stevie without being prompted with a question about her absence? Not to mention "my best friend in the whole world" ?

She's hopped on the plan to vacation in Italy multiple times, I'm sure she took a trip to England to visit her best friend, we just haven't heard about it yet :lol:

[BigAl84]

Took you long enough... :wavey:

It's just beyond infuriating to see Christine added to this growing list of people Stevie has worked with, that she now chooses to exaggerate and exploit for her own benefit or narrative.

This week marked the 6th anniversary of Tom Petty's passing and Free Fallin is still being used as her own feel good showstopper moment.

[Villavic]

This week marked the 6th anniversary of Tom Petty's passing .

OMG, how quickly time passed. If someone had asked me, I would have answered 2 or 3 years.

Weird, cause there's only one year difference with Bowie, Frey and Prince deaths and those does seems long ago to me.

[HomerMcvie]

Please capitalize STEVIE going forward. You've been warned. :mad:

I've got your moderator hanging...:p

$TEVIE!

[aleuzzi]

It's just beyond infuriating to see Christine added to this growing list of people Stevie has worked with, that she now chooses to exaggerate and exploit for her own benefit or narrative.

Few people know that Christine, Tom Petty, Prince, John Lewis, and the spirits of John Lennon and MLK used to hang out at Stevie's house in Phoenix discussing Rock-a-Little Barbie as a viable product.

[BigAl84]

Few people know that Christine, Tom Petty, Prince, John Lewis, and the spirits of John Lennon and MLK used to hang out at Stevie's house in Phoenix discussing Rock-a-Little Barbie as a viable product.

That Rock-a-Little Barbie comes with a razor and mirror, right?

[Macfan4life]

I totally agree. Her final years are going to be all about her. She's finally used up Fleetwood mac and ready to throw them away.
I agree in part. What she said is what I would expect her to say especially being on her successful solo tour going into early next year. However, she has not been asked by Mick to do anything yet. I fully expect at some point next summer or fall for Mick to make the call and beg her for one short Fleetwood Mac stint. As I said before, it is not my hope that it happens. History just tells me it will happen. Mick always needs money and he has all but welcomed Lindsey back after initially saying Fleetwood Mac was "done." He just needs to work on Stevie which he will do after her tour.

[UnwindedDreams]

Few people know that Christine, Tom Petty, Prince, John Lewis, and the spirits of John Lennon and MLK used to hang out at Stevie's house in Phoenix discussing Rock-a-Little Barbie as a viable product.
And Stevie sang the words I Have A Dream & Whatever it takes, Whatever it takes to be free. She is such a prophet!

[UnwindedDreams]

It's just beyond infuriating to see Christine added to this growing list of people Stevie has worked with, that she now chooses to exaggerate and exploit for her own benefit or narrative.

This week marked the 6th anniversary of Tom Petty's passing and Free Fallin is still being used as her own feel good showstopper moment.
Malignant Narcissism.

[SteveMacD]

I just cant get the thought out of my head that between 2003-early 2013 did we EVER hear Christine's name voluntarily mentioned EVEN ONCE from Stevie without being prompted with a question about her absence? Not to mention "my best friend in the whole world" ?


There was the time she offered Christine $5 million to come back.

[jmn3]

There was the time she offered Christine $5 million to come back.

It would only be right if Chris was like “where’s my check Stephanie?” When she did come back.

[jbrownsjr]

There was the time she offered Christine $5 million to come back.

Some time after SYW, she was itching for Christine to come back. Whether it was to avoid LB, or she really wanted her back is another story.

[David]

I wonder how she’d feel if whatever remains of Fleetwood Mac decided to forge ahead as Fleetwood Mac. Instinct tells me she’d be catty about it, but the others certainly have a right to do whatever they want now.

You can’t go off on a fabulous vacation on your own for two years and then object to the people you left behind planning their own good time.

At this stage, if I were a former member, I’d give all these people a wide buffer because they’re really a clown act now. Nobody has any heart in any of this. It’s either a financial thing for everyone or a grievance being acted out. It’s like watching cable news.

[UnwindedDreams]

Some time after SYW, she was itching for Christine to come back. Whether it was to avoid LB, or she really wanted her back is another story.
I’m pretty sure she offered her $5 million when Chris was making calls to ask how band mates would feel if she rejoined. Mick mentions this in his 2014 book… as well as Stevie would be participating in the next Fleetwood Mac album.

[Villavic]

I just cant get the thought out of my head that between 2003-early 2013 did we EVER hear Christine's name voluntarily mentioned EVEN ONCE from Stevie without being prompted with a question about her absence?

No. However, Mick said something in 2014 at the On with the Show meet & greets. While showing instruments at the stage, he said that Christine's keyboard was the same since the 90s, but after finishing the '97 tour she planned to get rid of it. But Stevie said no. She didn't convinced Chris to keep it, so she kept the keyboard (hoping Chris would come back some day, according to Mick).

So in 2014 when the tour began, Christine used the keyboard Stevie kept for her. I think that, if that story is true (you never know), I'm not saying that's a proof of a "best" friendship but it meant something.

[HomerMcvie]

No. However, Mick said something in 2014 at the On with the Show meet & greets. While showing instruments at the stage, he said that Christine's keyboard was the same since the 90s, but after finishing the '97 tour she planned to get rid of it. But Stevie said no. She didn't convinced Chris to keep it, so she kept the keyboard (hoping Chris would come back some day, according to Mick).

So in 2014 when the tour began, Christine used the keyboard Stevie kept for her. I think that, if that story is true (you never know), I'm not saying that's a proof of a "best" friendship but it meant something.

She's such an idiot.

The Hammond organ is timeless, but the electric piano technology has changed so much over the years. Her Yamaha CP-4 wasn't made before 2014, so that Stevie really must be a witch, bringing technology from various decades together whenever she wants.

[jbrownsjr]

I’m pretty sure she offered her $5 million when Chris was making calls to ask how band mates would feel if she rejoined. Mick mentions this in his 2014 book… as well as Stevie would be participating in the next Fleetwood Mac album.

Didn't she offer it around 2008 ish ? And Christine turned it down?

[Penguin Emeritus]

I just cant get the thought out of my head that between 2003-early 2013 did we EVER hear Christine's name voluntarily mentioned EVEN ONCE from Stevie without being prompted with a question about her absence? Not to mention "my best friend in the whole world" ?

She's hopped on the plan to vacation in Italy multiple times, I'm sure she took a trip to England to visit her best friend, we just haven't heard about it yet :lol:


very true. the best friend thing seems quite fabricated at this point.

There is one band member that Chris mentioned several times unsolicited in some of her later interviews. and I'll give you a hint...it wasn't Stevie.

--Lis

[jbrownsjr]

very true. the best friend thing seems quite fabricated at this point.

There is one band member that Chris mentioned several times unsolicited in some of her later interviews. and I'll give you a hint...it wasn't Stevie.

--Lis

Bob Welch? :laugh::wavey:

[cascade13]

I could easily see this scenario if Mick, John, Stevie, and Lindsey could agree on a purpose (to Stevie's point that there's "no reason" to continue right now) and probably a very limited commitment (a Las Vegas residency or something). A tribute to Christine with special guests, a fundraiser for Lahaina, etc. Any future FM project obviously won't be about new music or Stevie just wanting more bonding time with Lindsey... ;)

I agree in part. What she said is what I would expect her to say especially being on her successful solo tour going into early next year. However, she has not been asked by Mick to do anything yet. I fully expect at some point next summer or fall for Mick to make the call and beg her for one short Fleetwood Mac stint. As I said before, it is not my hope that it happens. History just tells me it will happen. Mick always needs money and he has all but welcomed Lindsey back after initially saying Fleetwood Mac was "done." He just needs to work on Stevie which he will do after her tour.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Bob Welch? :laugh::wavey:

omg stop! :laugh: and you know damn well who!

--Lis

[jbrownsjr]

omg stop! :laugh: and you know damn well who!

--Lis

Sara Recor? :xoxo:

[Nicks Fan]

omg stop! :laugh: and you know damn well who!

--Lis

Dave Mason !!!! lol

[Mr Scarrott]

It's weird reading the plethora of articles that have repeated lines from Stevie's recent interview, for example:

https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/stevie-nicks-fleetwood-mac-over/

None of the journalists who rehash all this seem to consider any of the following:

1. The implicit unlikelihood of a Stevie-Lindsey reconciliation to provide a marketable version of the Rumours band.

2. The viability of a Stevie-Neil-Mike-John-Mick Fleetwood Mac being anything that would tempt Stevie away from her solo career.

3. That Mick and John own the name of the band and could, in theory regroup with someone else.

4. That John, however, in all probability has had enough (and who could blame him?).

[SteveMacD]

This week marked the 6th anniversary of Tom Petty's passing and Free Fallin is still being used as her own feel good showstopper moment.

The ironic thing about her doing “Free Fallin’” is that Irving Azoff rejected “Full Moon Fever” when he was president of MCA records.

[UnwindedDreams]

Didn't she offer it around 2008 ish ? And Christine turned it down?
Sorry I missed this jb's. I didn't hear that. Though she could have done that when Chris came to the London shows in 2003 and 2009 (which I think Peter Green also went to?). She did say before the 2013 Tour in the press that she would scrape $5 million together for Chris to come back but didn't actually call her, she just said it in the press.

In Mick's 2014 book, he mentioned Stevie offering Chris $5 million to come back when Christine was making phone calls as well as Stevie saying "Is this some fantasy she has?"

[Macfan4life]

I am always surprised at the "surprise" of Stevie's statements. They are always so predictable. There are no Fleetwood Mac projects on the table. Chris just passed so it would be odd for her to say anything else what she has stated. Even Mick once said that Fleetwood Mac was done after Chris's passing. Everyone hold their breath and discuss this in one year when Mick is looking for his swan song and last big pay day.

[jbrownsjr]

I am always surprised at the "surprise" of Stevie's statements. They are always so predictable. There are no Fleetwood Mac projects on the table. Chris just passed so it would be odd for her to say anything else what she has stated. Even Mick once said that Fleetwood Mac was done after Chris's passing. Everyone hold their breath and discuss this in one year when Mick is looking for his swan song and last big pay day.

Maybe if she up's it to $20 million, Christine will resurrect. :nod:

[HomerMcvie]

Maybe if she up's it to $20 million, Christine will resurrect. :nod:

Now that's a ticket I'd gladly purchase.

[Macfan4life]

Maybe if she up's it to $20 million, Christine will resurrect. :nod:
We're gonna need a bigger dream catcher

[jbrownsjr]

We're gonna need a bigger dream catcher

Get out the cross that Lindsey nailed $tevie to. :laugh:

[Macfan4life]

Get out the cross that Lindsey nailed $tevie to. :laugh:
Nah
Stevie's giant crucifix from the Save Me video will do.

[jbrownsjr]

Nah
Stevie's giant crucifix from the Save Me video will do.

resurrect into the velvet of the morning...

[Villavic]

Maybe if she up's it to $20 million, Christine will resurrect. :nod:

They don't need to resurrect her. But God I hope it doesn't occur to them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qtUVeVuex6c/mqdefault.jpg

[Macfan4life]

They don't need to resurrect her. But God I hope it doesn't occur to them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qtUVeVuex6c/mqdefault.jpg
Sheryl almost replaced her once maybe twice

[jbrownsjr]

Sheryl almost replaced her once maybe twice


Do you think Robin is up there laughing when she said Christine was her best friend in the whole world?

[HomerMcvie]

Do you think Robin is up there laughing when she said Christine was her best friend in the whole world?

I'm not certain $he grasps the concept of there can only be one thing that's best.

I'd like to send her a dictionary. Via Air Mail. WHACK!!!!:woohoo:

[jmn3]

I'm not certain $he grasps the concept of there can only be one thing that's best.

I'd like to send her a dictionary. Via Air Mail. WHACK!!!!:woohoo:

She’s had more best friends than I have friends. As obscene as the Christine crap is with her - nothing is more baffling or downright f’n weird as the Prince nonsense. What she made out of their “relationship” after his death is truly beyond me. She is insane.

[anusha]

Of course there's no point in resurrecting Fleetwood Mac for Stevie. She probably makes the same or more money on her solo tours now, and she doesn't have to deal with the band at all for any decisions. And it's her name on the marquee alone. She would have ditched them all in the 80s if the economics were what they are now -- back then, there was more value in selling albums than touring, so she stuck with them for that. Now, there really isn't any point in touring with FM.

[BaronVonBielski]

Brand new article: “Stevie Nicks Sees ‘No Reason’ to Continue Fleetwood Mac”

From the article:



https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/stevie-nicks-sees-reason-continue-fleetwood-mac-after-103669033

I can understand how she feels. But have to say: Fleetwood Mac toured without Christine in in 2003, 2009 and 2013. Stevie and the rest of the band was totally okay with touring without Christine then. They didn’t need to “replace” her. Stevie didn’t say “what’s the point?” then. I saw all three of those tours and they were spectacular. Of course, I was thrilled when Christine announced she was rejoining the band in 2014 and loved seeing her with the “original 5” lineup on the 2014 tour. I can understand Stevie sad about losing her friend. But I’m not buying into this “what’s the point” from Stevie now. I feel like she’s just continuing to be difficult, after many years of being difficult and stubborn about new FM music and about everything that went down with firing Lindsey.

I used to be a big fan of Stevie. Not these days.

Without the eponymous Fleetwood Mac lineup, there’s no reason to continue. Let it end. It’s over.

[moon]

After all what happened with Lindsey, I can use the same words from those moments about him, now with her:
SN is not Fleetwood Mac.
If Fleetwood wants to continue, he can.

[sleepless child]

I don't see it happening. If Lindsey is working on a solo album, that will take several years of his time. Mick is working on rebuilding in Hawaii after the fires, I think John is done. I'm just sad it ended the way it did

[jbrownsjr]

This is what happens when you make **** up, Stevie... this photo cracked me up.