50th Anniversary of Buckingham Nicks

[WalkAThinLine.]

50 years ago, Buckingham Nicks was released on September 5, 1973. What are your thoughts on this momentous occasion?

[Macfan4life]

Wow. Thanks for pointing this out. Its crazy how its never been re-released on CD. I never could understand why especially after the success of them with the Mac and solo stuff. I remember interviews Stevie would give interviews in the 1980s and she could not explain it either. She was not aware who owned what. I think even Lindsey hinted in the 1980s that "someday" it will happen.
It's one of the biggest mysteries in rock. When Christine released her solo album in 1984 she was irked that her Christine Perfect album was being re-released to capitalize on her success. I think she even joked and told people not to buy it.
You would have thought with all the money they made one of them would have bought the rights decades ago.

[jbrownsjr]

I love this album. It's really really good.

Crystal (which is possibly my fav FM song) is my least favorite on the album.

Frozen Love is my fav.

[DownOnRodeo]

What are your thoughts on this momentous occasion?

If we could start again
Well, who knows
Have we really changed?
Some say we have
Reflecting our past
Who can say?

Races are run
Some people win
Some people always have to lose

[BigAl84]

I love the album immensely, but the anniversary brings up a bit more bittersweetness than usual. It's a bummer that the album hasn't been given its proper due. Of all things to fall victim to the worst run franchise in rock 'n roll, it's a shame that this album has to be one of them.

Given the recent events that have occurred, I'm pretty sure a release won't happen until they're both gone - if at all. We all know how amazing a proper release and tour/live component could be, it's a shame it will probably never happen. It's probably the biggest missed opportunity of 2013.

[jmn3]

I love the album immensely, but the anniversary brings up a bit more bittersweetness than usual. It's a bummer that the album hasn't been given its proper due. Of all things to fall victim to the worst run franchise in rock 'n roll, it's a shame that this album has to be one of them.

Given the recent events that have occurred, I'm pretty sure a release won't happen until they're both gone - if at all. We all know how amazing a proper release and tour/live component could be, it's a shame it will probably never happen. It's probably the biggest missed opportunity of 2013.

I’ll go to my grave saying they should have morphed the Mac into this in 1998 when Chris refused to sign on for more dates. The hype around them was massive and reissuing on CD (back when people were still buying CDs) for the 25th anniversary would have been amazingly profitable. They could have toured with Mick and John and taken out Chris’s songs to create a Buckingham Nicks mini set during the show.

How it has never been rereleased to CD or on any streaming service is beyond me. They’re so dumb at business. Absolute morons.

[bwboy]

I love this album. It's really really good.

Crystal (which is possibly my fav FM song) is my least favorite on the album.

Frozen Love is my fav.

Wow, I didn’t know you liked Crystal that much. I do, too. It really is a beautiful song.

Races Are Run is probably my favorite song off Buck/Nicks. I really like the lyrics a lot.

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, I didn’t know you liked Crystal that much. I do, too. It really is a beautiful song.

Races Are Run is probably my favorite song off Buck/Nicks. I really like the lyrics a lot.

I adore this album, but not this version of Crystal. And Stevie's solo version is horrible. Having said that, I love the White album version.

[WalkAThinLine.]

I’ll go to my grave saying they should have morphed the Mac into this in 1998 when Chris refused to sign on for more dates. The hype around them was massive and reissuing on CD (back when people were still buying CDs) for the 25th anniversary would have been amazingly profitable. They could have toured with Mick and John and taken out Chris’s songs to create a Buckingham Nicks mini set during the show.

How it has never been rereleased to CD or on any streaming service is beyond me. They’re so dumb at business. Absolute morons.

There were a lot of opportunities to give ''Buckingham Nicks'' a proper release, but none of them were taken. Given the current state of their voices, touring this album seems incredibly unfeasible. The vocal harmonies on that album was one of its biggest draws, and neither of them can really pull them off now. I'll be curious to see if either of them mention the album's 50th anniversary on their social media accounts.

[missundercover]

Currently listening to it - and... Stevie and Lindsey both posted about it. Same post, same time and tagging each other.
That IS bitter sweet. :o

[jbrownsjr]

Currently listening to it - and... Stevie and Lindsey both posted about it. Same post, same time and tagging each other.
That IS bitter sweet. :o

The songs on B/N remind Stevie of Christine McVie. :laugh:

[missundercover]

:lol: - whatever the reason. It is timeless and without it... so many of my favorite songs from Fleetwood Mac wouldn't exist. So... I sure do love it. :woohoo:

[BLY]

I have a couple high quality digital recordings and the vinyl but would love to have an official box set with extras. It’s way too late for a concert to promote it. 2003 would have been the best time. Unfortunately the harmony days are over.😢

[BigAl84]

I’ll go to my grave saying they should have morphed the Mac into this in 1998 when Chris refused to sign on for more dates. The hype around them was massive and reissuing on CD (back when people were still buying CDs) for the 25th anniversary would have been amazingly profitable. They could have toured with Mick and John and taken out Chris’s songs to create a Buckingham Nicks mini set during the show.

How it has never been rereleased to CD or on any streaming service is beyond me. They’re so dumb at business. Absolute morons.

I don't know if anyone else will remember this, but way back sometime between 2000-2001 there was a big rumor going around about a Buckingham Nicks tour. There was even a list of alleged tour dates circulating. I'm pretty sure this was all well before the Say You Will project was even announced. There was a long stretch between the end of the Dance Tour and the release of Trouble In Shangri-La...there wasn't much of anything happening in the FM orbit.

[HomerMcvie]

I always loved Buckingham Shemp.

[Macfan4life]

The songs on B/N remind Stevie of Christine McVie. :laugh:
Yes she has said several times before that Chris came to her in an orange grove and told her to write Crying in the night.


Btw, I do love the 1975 version of Crystal but I also love Stevie's 1998 solo version :eek:
Like Welcome to the room Sara is for you, its my guilty pleasure. :eek:

[Villavic]

Both Stevie & Lindsey have posted about it, in their networks.

Of course at those posts many people are asking for a reissue. But their words... like silent raindrops fell... and echoed... in the wells... of silence

[Street_Dreamer]

I'm sure someone on here could verify but you'd think that the Buckingham Nicks album is one of the most sought after/wanted albums to be re-released period. The fact it's never been released on CD much less digital officially automatically sells the album period, besides who's involved and their history and legacy in music history. It would sell itself easily.

Just another missed opportunity in the realm that is Fleetwood Mac.

[David]

50 years ago, Buckingham Nicks was released on September 5, 1973. What are your thoughts on this momentous occasion?
I played it for my oldest sister once (probably around 1979–80), and she said it was pretty good but it was “drug music from two hippies.” I said, “Pink Floyd was drug music from four hippies.” Her musical fare at the time was America, James Taylor, Three Dog Night, Alice Cooper. More than a few hippies there.

When you listen to the timbre effect they were going for of Lindsey and Stevie singing together, it’s obvious that it wasn’t smooth, tight harmony like CSN&Y, the Birds, the Everly Brothers, the Hollies, or the Motown R&B or doo wop groups. It was more like slightly rough and sloppy roots or country, or some Buffalo Springfield and Moby Grape or even early Grateful Dead, with pedal tones and piercing electric guitar lines. Lindsey and Stevie aren’t really super-tight in the classic harmony sense. They’re both “feel” singers. So . . . Buckingham Nicks is like Ian and Sylvia mixed with Moby Grape.

Did you guys ever hear Tommy Luxem cover “Races Are Run”? Tim ’n’ Jess cover “Long Distance Winner”? They make you appreciate Buckingham and Nicks.

Thoughts about breaking out in Birmingham. Why Birmingham? Just because one DJ decided he liked the album and started playing it a lot? That led to sold-out concerts? What if other DJs across the country had also started playing it a lot? Buckingham Nicks might have been an overnight sensation. Remember that Mick Fleetwood liked what he heard. You just had to hear it first. Imagine what could have been had people heard it in 1973–74. Something would have happened, I have no doubt.

[bombaysaffires]

Someone posted this video of clips of S&L over the years:

What is going on at the :20 mark? Clearly a Tusk photo shoot, but I've never seen that footage (Stevie in rust-colored blouse) before.....:eek:

https://twitter.com/hourlylindseyb/status/1699049455037915217

[WatchChain]

This band and its members hold the record for "missed opportunities".

Also - in the liner notes of the Buckingham Nicks album, I have always wondered about the spelling of Stevie's name. The liner notes spell her name as "Stevi Nicks".

Was this a misprint, or was that the way that Stevie was spelling her name at the time? If so, at what point did "Stevi" decide to become "Stevie"?

By the 1975 Fleetwood Mac album, the spelling is changed.

[UnwindedDreams]

Is there any chance RHINO has control over Stevie and Lindsey's social media?

Weird that they posted the same and tagged each other at the same time on Facebook.

[jbrownsjr]

Is there any chance RHINO has control over Stevie and Lindsey's social media?

Weird that they posted the same and tagged each other at the same time on Facebook.

I'm guessing it was management. Stevie wouldn't even be awake until 2-3pm.

[David]

Also - in the liner notes of the Buckingham Nicks album, I have always wondered about the spelling of Stevie's name. The liner notes spell her name as "Stevi Nicks".

Was this a misprint, or was that the way that Stevie was spelling her name at the time? If so, at what point did "Stevi" decide to become "Stevie"?

By the 1975 Fleetwood Mac album, the spelling is changed.That’s a question for her in the Elevator Game!

[aleuzzi]

My thoughts on this record.

Frozen Love is the standout track. The interplay of the voices, the searing guitar. The song is catchy but not obvious at all. In fact, I have rarely heard anything else like it.

But the rest of B/N underwhelms me. It's the work of two promising, pretty people with good voices who have yet to fully find themselves. Nothing shabby about it, but hardly a classic. Long Distance Winner and Don't Let Me Down Again are worth repeated listens.

[J.Miller]

Jeremy Gloff and the crew including me are going to cover Buckingham Nicks on Jeremy’s Phonogenics 101 next week. I will post the link when it becomes available.

[Street_Dreamer]

I love Billy and would never disrespect him but if he was somehow able to get his two early 80s albums released on CD and digital for the first time recently, there's no excuse why the same couldn't happen for Buckingham Nicks.

This band and its members hold the record for "missed opportunities".

[BigAl84]

I love Billy and would never disrespect him but if he was somehow able to get his two early 80s albums released on CD and digital for the first time recently, there's no excuse why the same couldn't happen for Buckingham Nicks.

For a while it was widely known that there was some kind of joint ownership of the masters between Lindsey and Stevie. However, several years ago there was some sort of allegation that Keith Olsen had some kind of skin in the game and was not negotiable. He has since passed away. I don’t know if it’s ever been disclosed who owns what. It must come down to Lindsey and Stevie, I’m sure Rhino/Warner are well aware of the potential cash from such a release.

[HomerMcvie]

. It must come down to Lindsey and Stevie, I’m sure Rhino/Warner are well aware of the potential cash from such a release.

Come on... how much could it sell? 50k?
The band is 100, and their 75yo fan base isn't exactly known for keeping music alive.

[SteveMacD]

The only thing that could sell is a deluxe box.

Other than that, there’s really no point. The music is available on the internet. It would be nice to have a proper digital version, but they missed there chance.

I think the idea floated of turning The Dance tour into a Buckingham Nicks 25th Anniversary reissue tour would have been the way to go. Swap out Christine with Waddy.

[DownOnRodeo]

Jeremy Gloff and the crew including me are going to cover Buckingham Nicks on Jeremy’s Phonogenics 101 next week. I will post the link when it becomes available.

Thank you Jeremy and friends. Looking forward to it.

[bwboy]

I love Billy and would never disrespect him but if he was somehow able to get his two early 80s albums released on CD and digital for the first time recently, there's no excuse why the same couldn't happen for Buckingham Nicks.

Or Behind the Mask, for that matter!

[bombaysaffires]

The only thing that could sell is a deluxe box.

Other than that, there’s really no point. The music is available on the internet. It would be nice to have a proper digital version, but they missed there chance.

I think the idea floated of turning The Dance tour into a Buckingham Nicks 25th Anniversary reissue tour would have been the way to go. Swap out Christine with Waddy.

It soooo freaks me out that The Dance is now 26 years ago.....

[jmn3]

The only thing that could sell is a deluxe box.

Other than that, there’s really no point. The music is available on the internet. It would be nice to have a proper digital version, but they missed there chance.

I think the idea floated of turning The Dance tour into a Buckingham Nicks 25th Anniversary reissue tour would have been the way to go. Swap out Christine with Waddy.

Everything was in place. The touring “machine” was well oiled and their star power was at its peak. The two of them were basically being featured as the stars of the show throughout 1997 with that Landslide BS and of course, Silver Springs. Seriously, just eliminate all of Chris’s songs sans Don’t Stop from the set, turf The Farmer’s Daughter, drop one of Lindsey’s new songs, add in a mini set of Crying in the Night/Don’t Let Me Down Again/Crystal/Stephanie/Long Distance Winner, and toss in Frozen Love as the first song of the encore before Don’t Stop. Just keep billing it as Fleetwood Mac and pump the rerelease of Buckingham Nicks in tandem. It made all the sense!

I’m with you Steve, I really don’t think there’s a point anymore. It may happen some day but from a business sense, the ship sailed long ago.

[jbrownsjr]

Or Behind the Mask, for that matter!

I would love to see one of these early shows. It was soooo good.

[UnwindedDreams]

I would love to see one of these early shows. It was soooo good.
It was so nice to see Stevie's 30th anniversary post for BTM; we know she's very proud of that album:laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

It was so nice to see Stevie's 30th anniversary post for BTM; we know she's very proud of that album:laugh:

She wasn't even there a bunch of that recording. Did she really have her team post something about it?

[UnwindedDreams]

She wasn't even there a bunch of that recording. Did she really have her team post something about it?
No. I think she was posting about Harry Styles' Fine Line album around that time. Saying it was his Rumours and that he inspired her to write new music... here we are... 3 years later:laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

No. I think she was posting about Harry Styles' Fine Line album around that time. Saying it was his Rumours and that he inspired her to write new music... here we are... 3 years later:laugh:

This whole occurrence reminds me of Christine McVie. :laugh:

[Macfan4life]

It was so nice to see Stevie's 30th anniversary post for BTM; we know she's very proud of that album:laugh:
It was the second time she did that
she never looked back

[UnwindedDreams]

It was the second time she did that
she never looked back
Again that song makes me want to close all my shades, lay in bed with Ben and Jerry's... but I would have loved to have heard that live instead of Storms in 2018 just to have a different song from Stevie's catalogue which she did for every tour from The Dance until 2018 (Sweet Girl/Silver Springs, Beautiful Child/Sara, Storms(2009), Sisters/Without You, and Seven Wonders)

[jmn3]

Again that song makes me want to close all my shades, lay in bed with Ben and Jerry's... but I would have loved to have heard that live instead of Storms in 2018 just to have a different song from Stevie's catalogue which she did for every tour from The Dance until 2018 (Sweet Girl/Silver Springs, Beautiful Child/Sara, Storms(2009), Sisters/Without You, and Seven Wonders)

In 2018 she just created a new catalog! Black Magic Woman. Free Fallin. And her amazing duets on Don’t Dream It’s Over and All Over Again.

[BigAl84]

They've had no issue selling how many reissues of Rumours, I highly doubt an official release of Buckingham Nicks wouldn't sell. That's my two cents!

[Villavic]

They've had no issue selling how many reissues of Rumours, I highly doubt an official release of Buckingham Nicks wouldn't sell. That's my two cents!

I guess Buckingham Nicks wouldn't sell a third of what Rumours reissues sell. But that wouldn't be a reason to not release it. The point is wether it sells enough more than break even. Vinyls and CDs sure mean a considerable cost. Digital would be cheaper I guess.

[UnwindedDreams]

In 2018 she just created a new catalog! Black Magic Woman. Free Fallin. And her amazing duets on Don’t Dream It’s Over and All Over Again.
Jim, please forgive my Hackney Diamonds! I totally forgot she sang all of those songs that she was on the album recordings of. And my favorite song of hers, I Got You, with truly mind blowing footage of Boris Karloff and Elsa Lancaster.
We are so unworthy of the excellent live album of that 2018 tour they gifted to us fans!

[jmn3]

Jim, please forgive my Hackney Diamonds! I totally forgot she sang all of those songs that she was on the album recordings of. And my favorite song of hers, I Got You, with truly mind blowing footage of Boris Karloff and Elsa Lancaster.
We are so unworthy of the excellent live album of that 2018 tour they gifted to us fans!

Aw hell I forgot about I Got You!

[J.Miller]

https://youtu.be/TrxucErObpM?si=yBNsX-05K086lmSy Here is our discussion on the Buckingham Nicks album. I am also going to post the same link in both the Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks forums.

[jbrownsjr]

https://youtu.be/TrxucErObpM?si=yBNsX-05K086lmSy Here is our discussion on the Buckingham Nicks album. I am also going to post the same link in both the Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks forums.

THanks for posting this. Look forward to it.