BuckVie: Which songs do you like the most?

[Villavic]

Before finishing these poll threads with Rumours, I wanted to include BuckVie. Cause many of us considering it the kind of last Fleetwood Mac studio album. If Say You Will was included, why not BuckVie?

So if you had to choose one group of songs that you like the most, which will you choose? Lindsey’s songs? Christine's songs?

[elle]

what if you like co-writes the best?

[jbrownsjr]

This is a tough one. I love every song on here. Lay Down and Game are the weakest, however, I still love this entire album. Christine just because he made a return. And looking back, thank the GODS she came back to finish her story and legacy!!

[Villavic]

what if you like co-writes the best?

I thought about it. That's why the title focus more in the lead singer.

And that's why I gave up doing a Behind the Mask poll. Not only there are several co-writes but co-sings too.

Anyway, since these polls are just for fun, it's up to you who do you give the vote to, in the case of co-authors.

[jbrownsjr]

I thought about it. That's why the title focus more in the lead singer.

And that's why I gave up doing a Behind the Mask poll. Not only there are several co-writes but co-sings too.

Anyway, since these polls are just for fun, it's up to you who do you give the vote to, in the case of co-authors.

You should still do a BTM. And then go by singer.

[cbBen]

what if you like co-writes the best?

The co-writes count as Christine songs. She sings them all.

[HomerMcvie]

This is a tough one. I love every song on here. Lay Down and Game are the weakest, however, I still love this entire album. Christine just because he made a return. And looking back, thank the GODS she came back to finish her story and legacy!!

This. And if I did skip any songs, it would be the two you mentioned.

I think this is practically a tie, however, Lindsey had a big hand in Chris's songs, so I'm giving it to him.

[jbrownsjr]

This. And if I did skip any songs, it would be the two you mentioned.

I think this is practically a tie, however, Lindsey had a big hand in Chris's songs, so I'm giving it to him.

They really made each other better. It was a joy to see his band with her. I saw him in 2018 after and it was a tad boring for me. I just missed that duo.

[HomerMcvie]

They really made each other better. It was a joy to see his band with her. I saw him in 2018 after and it was a tad boring for me. I just missed that duo.

The two of them are what made FM, FM.


Not that self absorbed old goat.

[jbrownsjr]

The two of them are what made FM, FM.


Not that self absorbed old goat.

Christine McVie was definitely Fleetwood Mac. I miss her. :distress:

[BLY]

Christine McVie was definitely Fleetwood Mac. I miss her. :distress:

Yes, All of Christine’s lead vocal songs on this album is FLEETWOOD MAC!

[DownOnRodeo]

If only the band was as prolific with its albums as Villavic is with his polls.

[HomerMcvie]

If only the band was as prolific with its albums as Villavic is with his polls.

It's always been this way. One gets done, then it's game on!

[FuzzyPlum]

Well, I like Stevie’s songs the least on this record. That’s one thing I do know for sure!

[HomerMcvie]

Well, I like Stevie’s songs the least on this record. That’s one thing I do know for sure!

No one can argue with that!

She's the reason we didn't get one last full band project.

I wonder what the sales would've been HAD it been marketed as FM? Maybe double, but not much more?

They, and their demographic, are dying off.

[aleuzzi]

No one can argue with that!

She's the reason we didn't get one last full band project.

I wonder what the sales would've been HAD it been marketed as FM? Maybe double, but not much more?

They, and their demographic, are dying off.

I think sales would have reached around 800,000 units.

[jbrownsjr]

I think sales would have reached around 800,000 units.

Imagine if they sold them with the merch, with a free FM shirt.

Lord the sales.

[HomerMcvie]

I think sales would have reached around 800,000 units.

Oh, I doubt that. Not in this day and age. But I'm not sure what the numbers are these days for dinosaur acts. Of course WE ALL would have bought it. But we're a bunch of damned weirdos clinging to a site for 20 some years...;)

[bombaysaffires]

This is a tough one. I love every song on here. Lay Down and Game are the weakest, however, I still love this entire album. Christine just because she made a return. And looking back, thank the GODS she came back to finish her story and legacy!!

Yep, I'm gonna give it to Christine because her return tipped the scales to getting a band album done 2 votes against 1 (with regards to singers). EVERYBODY wanted to work in the studio with Christine again...except Stevie. Now, she would characterize it as not wanting to work with Lindsey, but de facto that meant never recording again with Christine when she had the chance. So bless Chris for returning, WANTING to write and record (as well as tour) because despite all of Lindsey's best intentions or desires, that record would NOT have happened without Chris. (Sure he's had John and Mick play with him on solo stuff, but never a full album).

[jbrownsjr]

Yep, I'm gonna give it to Christine because her return tipped the scales to getting a band album done 2 votes against 1 (with regards to singers). EVERYBODY wanted to work in the studio with Christine again...except Stevie. Now, she would characterize it as not wanting to work with Lindsey, but de facto that meant never recording again with Christine when she had the chance. So bless Chris for returning, WANTING to write and record (as well as tour) because despite all of Lindsey's best intentions or desires, that record would NOT have happened without Chris. (Sure he's had John and Mick play with him on solo stuff, but never a full album).

I honestly shudder to think if she hadn't decided to start writing again and send the material to Lindsey. :distress:

[aleuzzi]

Oh, I doubt that. Not in this day and age. But I'm not sure what the numbers are these days for dinosaur acts. Of course WE ALL would have bought it. But we're a bunch of damned weirdos clinging to a site for 20 some years...;)

You're probably right. But I was thinking just the name--and the momentousness of all five of them together again would lure people to download the entire album. It would have gotten a lot more press and buzz. It would have been accompanied by a world tour. Alas, it ended up being a great little album that we weirdos preferred.

[aleuzzi]

In terms of the poll, I gave it to Christine. But it wasn't easy. "In My World" is a great song, as are "Love is Here to Stay" and "On With the Show." I like "Lay Down for Free" but not as much as the other three. And the only song on the album I DON'T like is the opener. I have never warmed to it.

Chris's songs are just more evocative to me, more emotionally charged, even when her lyrics are occasionally...wanting. I don't think I can ever forgive "freedom in my mouth" and the words to "Too Far Gone" are pretty generic. Still, all of her songs shine. (I had the same reaction to In the Meantime. The "like a blind man who now can see" line from "You Are" always makes me cringe, but the song and vocal are lovely.)

The first time I heard "Game of Pretend" I HATED the chorus. After such a great opening verse (and really moving verses throughout) to get Lindsey doing a creepy Brian Wilson harmony put me off. Now I can live with it, but I still think the song would have been perfect if she sang it alone.

[SteveMacD]

EVERYBODY wanted to work in the studio with Christine again...except Stevie. Now, she would characterize it as not wanting to work with Lindsey, but de facto that meant never recording again with Christine when she had the chance.

She had two chances to record with Christine. Not wanting to work with Lindsey might be understandable, but what was the excuse when Mike and Neil were in the band? She’s washed up as a songwriter. I’m glad she wasn’t on the album.

[HomerMcvie]

She had two chances to record with Christine. Not wanting to work with Lindsey might be understandable, but what was the excuse when Mike and Neil were in the band? She’s washed up as a songwriter. I’m glad she wasn’t on the album.

On this we agree. She's got nothing left, and she knows it.

[sleepless child]

The video of the band doing BuckMcvie was so loving. I still can't get over that they would throw Lindsey out of the band a year later. It's a head scratcher to me. They were that intimidated by Stevie? I'm sure Irving was pushing for him to go also

[WalkAThinLine.]

The video of the band doing BuckMcvie was so loving. I still can't get over that they would throw Lindsey out of the band a year later. It's a head scratcher to me. They were that intimidated by Stevie? I'm sure Irving was pushing for him to go also

The video is very loving, but I'm curious if some of it was performative. Buckingham has a reputation for being very intense in the studio even as recently as 2003. It's very possible that he's mellowed out a bit since then, but I'm approaching it with some light skepticism. After watching back the video, I remembered how I found the production to be rather grating on certain songs. "In My World" has that thin, receptive, and lifeless acoustic guitar during the verses that becomes more grating each time I hear it. In comparison to some of the guitar work he's done elsewhere, it's surprisingly juvenile. The opening track on the album, "Sleeping Around the Corner", also has a hiccup with the shaker that never existed on the original Seeds We Sow recording and the vocals are also a downgrade. For someone who has a reputation for being a perfectionist in the studio, it's surprising that Buckingham approved of some of these final mixes. The album had been in the works for several years, yet it still felt very rushed. There are some great songs on here, mostly from Christine McVie, although Buckingham's "Love His Here to Stay" is also a highlight.

[Macfan4life]

This is tough but I have the edge to Chris. Although Sleeping Around The Corner and In My World are 2 of my favorites from the album. But Chris has some gems like Red Sun, Carnival Begin, and Feel About you.
This is seriously the most underrated album in history. It did not shine as much because they dared not call it Fleetwood Mac.

[BLY]

This is seriously the most underrated album in history. It did not shine as much because they dared not call it Fleetwood Mac.


Yes, yes, yes….This is Classic Fleetwood Mac. To this day it pisses me of it wasn’t titled Fleetwood Mac. Mick should have pulled his “balls” out of the closet and told Stevie that it will be released as a Fleetwood Mac album with or without you.

[Macfan4life]

Yes, yes, yes….This is Classic Fleetwood Mac. To this day it pisses me of it wasn’t titled Fleetwood Mac. Mick should have pulled his “balls” out of the closet and told Stevie that it will be released as a Fleetwood Mac album with or without you.
At that point in their lives and career they still had "it." Chris came out of her shell to prove her powers had not been diminished. Lindsey fed off this energy. Stevie must have heard their recordings prior to the OWTS tour. I think she was jealous right away.

[HomerMcvie]

Yes, yes, yes….This is Classic Fleetwood Mac. To this day it pisses me of it wasn’t titled Fleetwood Mac. Mick should have pulled his “balls” out of the closet and told Stevie that it will be released as a Fleetwood Mac album with or without you.

Stevie Nicks is the worst thing that ever happened to FM- Homer McVie

[BLY]

Stevie Nicks is the worst thing that ever happened to FM- Homer McVie

Sorry Homer McVie..this statement I can’t agree with.

[HomerMcvie]

Sorry Homer McVie..this statement I can’t agree with.

Whew... it's a good thing I'm not searching for approval! :lol:

[Villavic]

Well I don't agree either, but as I remember, chili D said both Stevie and Lindsey were the worst thing that ever happened to Fleetwood Mac. And The Dance kind of confirm it. I don't agree with that either, but I think that being the lovingest fightingest band ended up ruining the legacy.

[UnwindedDreams]

Well I don't agree either, but as I remember, chili D said both Stevie and Lindsey were the worst thing that ever happened to Fleetwood Mac. And The Dance kind of confirm it. I don't agree with that either, but I think that being the lovingest fightingest band ended up ruining the legacy.
But had Rick Vito joined the band in 1975, would there have been albums selling millions in the United States?

[Villavic]

I don't think so. Since the albums would have been completely different. Not only because Lindsey wouldn't be here. Even if just Stevie were in the band (in a hypothetical parallel universe), she wouldn't have written Dreams, Silver Springs, etc.

[HomerMcvie]

Lindsey is what made the difference in their songs becoming hits.

Although idiots were always quite mesmerized by the spinning, drunken sailor(although that didn't make the songs the cream that they are).

[bwboy]

Lindsey is what made the difference in their songs becoming hits.

Although idiots were always quite mesmerized by the spinning, drunken sailor(although that didn't make the songs the cream that they are).

Hey Homer, how about laying off the name calling? This is at least the second time you’ve called people idiots. It is one of the few rules we’re supposed to follow here.

[jbrownsjr]

Hey Homer, how about laying off the name calling? This is at least the second time you’ve called people idiots. It is one of the few rules we’re supposed to follow here.

He's talking about the general masses all buying into the fake relationship, and the spinning, witch personality, super model looks, etc. He's not talking about anyone here.

[HomerMcvie]

Hey Homer, how about laying off the name calling? This is at least the second time you’ve called people idiots. It is one of the few rules we’re supposed to follow here.

I didn't specify anyone, other than the general public. When you start paying my bills, you can start giving me orders. Got it?

[Villavic]

He's talking about the general masses all buying into the fake relationship, and the spinning, witch personality, super model looks, etc. He's not talking about anyone here.

Ok but with all respect I find unfair to call them idiots. Macfan4life has an interesting point about the Billboard best singer list, at my thread in Stevie's forum:

She is not the best singer. But she's got that "thing" that attracts people. I remember Mick describing it in his first book something like he never saw an audience react the way they did when she walked on the stage. I think people are voting for that.

I don't agree to place Stevie at N.2 best singer, but she is, or was, quite an artirst. I don't think the reactions Mick refers to, made them idiots.

[bwboy]

He's talking about the general masses all buying into the fake relationship, and the spinning, witch personality, super model looks, etc. He's not talking about anyone here.

As opposed to the idiots who buy into the fake relationship, Bride of Frankenstein hair, no personality, quitter with super model looks? Not that I’m talking about anyone here.

[jbrownsjr]

As opposed to the idiots who buy into the fake relationship, Bride of Frankenstein hair, no personality, quitter with super model looks? Not that I’m talking about anyone here.

Exactly! :laugh::wavey:

[Macfan4life]

I would not call them idiots. They are cultists. I am a former cultist. I promoted Stevie's world at every turn. Her lyrics made it into my world history thesis presentations in school. I worshipped at the alter with posters all over my room. I spun around the house in shawls. I drank a bottles of tequilla and Jack Daniels and did copious amounts of blow. When she grabbed my hands during an edge walk, I almost fainted and lost my way home driving that night leaving the concert.
Then one day I left the cult.

[jbrownsjr]

I would not call them idiots. They are cultists. I am a former cultist. I promoted Stevie's world at every turn. Her lyrics made it into my world history thesis presentations in school. I worshipped at the alter with posters all over my room. I spun around the house in shawls. I drank a bottles of tequilla and Jack Daniels and did copious amounts of blow. When she grabbed my hands during an edge walk, I almost fainted and lost my way home driving that night leaving the concert.
Then one day I left the cult.

I left the cult, too. I used to get mad when Wild Heart didn't do better on the charts. Especially, Nightbird. I was also mad there wasn't a video for Nightbird. :laugh:

[Macfan4life]

I left the cult, too. I used to get mad when Wild Heart didn't do better on the charts. Especially, Nightbird. I was also mad there wasn't a video for Nightbird. :laugh:
Everything I wrote in that post was true. None of it was made up. And you know what, I feel your pain. I felt the same way, pure anger at her and her record company for releasing Nightbird. We had the same feelings.
I also hid my disgust for RAL because I HAD to like it ;)

[jbrownsjr]

Everything I wrote in that post was true. None of it was made up. And you know what, I feel your pain. I felt the same way, pure anger at her and her record company for releasing Nightbird. We had the same feelings.
I also hid my disgust for RAL because I HAD to like it ;)

Stop it, Lily!

[Macfan4life]

Stop it, Lily!
Another crazy but true story is that I prayed to the Goddess Rhiannon and I won Christine McVie concert tickets twice. Rhiannon was the song to call and I won on the radio.
There was power in the cult. I think I may have even done a cultist dance to seal the deal too. Its either the saddest story or the most brilliant story of my life at that time. But I ended up with 4 concert tickets and 2 more Christine McVie albums ;)

[bwboy]

Exactly! :laugh::wavey:

Now that was awesome! :thumbsup:

Jbrownsjr to the rescue!

[jbrownsjr]

Another crazy but true story is that I prayed to the Goddess Rhiannon and I won Christine McVie concert tickets twice. Rhiannon was the song to call and I won on the radio.
There was power in the cult. I think I may have even done a cultist dance to seal the deal too. Its either the saddest story or the most brilliant story of my life at that time. But I ended up with 4 concert tickets and 2 more Christine McVie albums ;)

Before spirit catcher days!!!

[Villavic]

I left the cult, too. I used to get mad when Wild Heart didn't do better on the charts. Especially, Nightbird. I was also mad there wasn't a video for Nightbird. :laugh:

I only got to sing in the shower with the bath brush. And I still get mad when at the radios they mention the best selling albums of all time and they don´t include Rumours!

[David]

I drank a bottles of tequilla and Jack Daniels and did copious amounts of blow.

Tell, tell!!!!!