Hold Me Pop Charts

[jbrownsjr]

Hold Me just 5 weeks on the chart was already at #6. The competition was really stiff. I wished this had been a #1 song. I love Hold Me.

[WalkAThinLine.]

And it spent seven weeks at #4. It had a lot of stiff competition at the top of the chart, although "Hold Me" is better than all of those songs in my opinion. "Hurts So Good" and "Abracadabra" are very middle of the road, and I have mixed feelings about "Eye of the Tiger". "Rosanna" and "Don't You Want Me" are pop bangers.

[HomerMcvie]

Hold Me just 5 weeks on the chart was already at #6. The competition was really stiff. I wished this had been a #1 song. I love Hold Me.

At one of my happy hour bars, they have Greatest Hits on the jukebox. Every time I play Hold Me, I always see people looking around,..... who TF played this?

I also play Tusk every time, and people have told me that they know I'm hiding in the bar somewhere, because I'm the ONLY one who plays it.

[Macfan4life]

I have posted this before but for weeks on chart and most weeks in the top 10 (if that is your calculation of a pop hit) then Hold Me is the Mac's biggest hit. Dreams raced to #1 and then fell rather swiftly. It was only in the top 10 for a few weeks. Hold me was at #4 for 7 weeks which is longer than Dreams was in the top 10. It was blocked by the #1 spot by Eye of the Tiger and Abracadabra. Hurts So Good was also locked at #2 and spent 16 weeks in the top 10. So in ways it blocked Hold Me's rise. BTW, Hurts So Good still holds the record for most weeks in the top 10.
Hold Me raced up the chart with a bullet and got locked within the top 5 for 2 months. I think it it was released a month earlier it would have easily been a #1 song.
One last statistic: Hold Me finished 1982 as a bigger hit than Dreams did in 1977 (weeks on the chart).

[WalkAThinLine.]

Hurts So Good was also locked at #2 and spent 16 weeks in the top 10. So in ways it blocked Hold Me's rise. BTW, Hurts So Good still holds the record for most weeks in the top 10.
Hold Me raced up the chart with a bullet and got locked within the top 5 for 2 months. I think it it was released a month earlier it would have easily been a #1 song.
One last statistic: Hold Me finished 1982 as a bigger hit than Dreams did in 1977 (weeks on the chart).

Other songs such as Santana's Smooth have since surpassed Hurts so Good for most weeks in the top 10 (it lodged at least 30), although it's important to keep in mind that Billboard has changed its methodology since 1982 for calculating chart peaks (the introduction of streaming is one prime example of this). In general, songs tend to spend a much longer time on the charts now compared to the 1980s. songs tend to last a lot longer in the top 10 now than the 1980s. For example, Sisters of the Moon peaked at #86 in 1980, notching only three weeks on the Billboard Hot 100. Fast forward to 2003, and Peacekeeper lodged 11 weeks in the Hot 100 despite only peaking 6 positions higher than Sisters of the Moon.

[jbrownsjr]

I have posted this before but for weeks on chart and most weeks in the top 10 (if that is your calculation of a pop hit) then Hold Me is the Mac's biggest hit. Dreams raced to #1 and then fell rather swiftly. It was only in the top 10 for a few weeks. Hold me was at #4 for 7 weeks which is longer than Dreams was in the top 10. It was blocked by the #1 spot by Eye of the Tiger and Abracadabra. Hurts So Good was also locked at #2 and spent 16 weeks in the top 10. So in ways it blocked Hold Me's rise. BTW, Hurts So Good still holds the record for most weeks in the top 10.
Hold Me raced up the chart with a bullet and got locked within the top 5 for 2 months. I think it it was released a month earlier it would have easily been a #1 song.
One last statistic: Hold Me finished 1982 as a bigger hit than Dreams did in 1977 (weeks on the chart).


I do remember you posting this at some point. Someone posted this chart on FB which made me think.. "Whoa! this hit climbed fast."

Hold Me is really a special song. Not just because it's mainly BuckVie, but, because it's Fleetwood Mac. doing Fleetwood Mac.
Anyone know where it entered? At what number?

[WalkAThinLine.]

Anyone know where it entered? At what number?

"Hold Me" debuted within the top 40 at #33, which is unusually high even compared to songs that eventually hit #1.

https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1982-06-19/

[Macfan4life]

Other songs such as Santana's Smooth have since surpassed Hurts so Good for most weeks in the top 10 (it lodged at least 30), although it's important to keep in mind that Billboard has changed its methodology since 1982 for calculating chart peaks (the introduction of streaming is one prime example of this). In general, songs tend to spend a much longer time on the charts now compared to the 1980s. songs tend to last a lot longer in the top 10 now than the 1980s. For example, Sisters of the Moon peaked at #86 in 1980, notching only three weeks on the Billboard Hot 100. Fast forward to 2003, and Peacekeeper lodged 11 weeks in the Hot 100 despite only peaking 6 positions higher than Sisters of the Moon.
You are correct. I misread the line. Hurts so good holds the record for most weeks in the top 10 in the 1980s (NOT OF ALL TIME).
Thank you for the correction :)

There was such a log jam of monster songs during this time.

There is an honest debate even with Foreigner fans. Waiting For A Girl Like you was at #2 for 9 weeks. Its one of the biggest hits of the entire 1980s's decade but it never reached #1. I want to know what love is reached #1 for a couple weeks. Which is the bigger hit? The record holder at #2 or the #1 song?

Speaking of Waiting For a Girl Like you. It peaked in January 1982 when Physical was #1. Both songs locked in place at the top of the charts for months also prevented Leather and Lace and Lindseys' Trouble from moving higher. Other monster hits like Centerfold and Young Turks bogged out just below those 2 making it impossible for Nicks and Buckingham to move higher.

[WatchChain]

I have posted this before but for weeks on chart and most weeks in the top 10 (if that is your calculation of a pop hit) then Hold Me is the Mac's biggest hit. Dreams raced to #1 and then fell rather swiftly. It was only in the top 10 for a few weeks. Hold me was at #4 for 7 weeks which is longer than Dreams was in the top 10. It was blocked by the #1 spot by Eye of the Tiger and Abracadabra. Hurts So Good was also locked at #2 and spent 16 weeks in the top 10. So in ways it blocked Hold Me's rise. BTW, Hurts So Good still holds the record for most weeks in the top 10.
Hold Me raced up the chart with a bullet and got locked within the top 5 for 2 months. I think it it was released a month earlier it would have easily been a #1 song.
One last statistic: Hold Me finished 1982 as a bigger hit than Dreams did in 1977 (weeks on the chart).

This is indeed VERY interesting. Who would have thought that, based on Billboard Chart staying power, "Hold Me" is Fleetwood Mac's biggest hit?

Until recently, "Hold Me" had been an overlooked, forgotten hit - absent from the set list for years. The "Mirage" album is an underrated gem.

[jbrownsjr]

This is indeed VERY interesting. Who would have thought that, based on Billboard Chart staying power, "Hold Me" is Fleetwood Mac's biggest hit?

Until recently, "Hold Me" had been an overlooked, forgotten hit - absent from the set list for years. The "Mirage" album is an underrated gem.

YMLF, ALAYF, and Hold Me Are my favorite singles. Just super good stuff. :woohoo:

[WalkAThinLine.]

There is an honest debate even with Foreigner fans. Waiting For A Girl Like you was at #2 for 9 weeks. Its one of the biggest hits of the entire 1980s's decade but it never reached #1. I want to know what love is reached #1 for a couple weeks. Which is the bigger hit? The record holder at #2 or the #1 song?



I have a book by Fred Bronson titled [Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits][/I] that attempts to quantify the biggest hits of the rock era by assigning a song points based on their chart run. A song earned 500 points for every week they were at the number 1 position, 400 points for every week at the number 2 position, 300 points for the number 3 position, 200 points for the number 4 position, 100 points for the number 5 position, 95 points for the number 6 position, 94 points for the number 7 position, and so on. This methodology rewards songs for both their chart peak and duration on the chart (ex. a song that peaks at #14 but stays on the Hot 100 for 15 weeks could still do better than a song that peaks at #8 but only stays in the Hot 100 for 7 weeks.

According to the book, "Waiting for a Girl Like You" is the 135th most successful song from the years 1955-2007. Meanwhile, "I Want to Know What Loves Is" ranks at #641.

If you're curious, I could also provide you with the top 30 most successful Fleetwood Mac songs on the Billboard Hot 100. The list includes Fleetwood Mac songs in addition to solo material from Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, and Stevie Nicks, but not Bob Welch and Dave Mason, who would have otherwise had songs on the list had they been included.

[bombaysaffires]

This is indeed VERY interesting. Who would have thought that, based on Billboard Chart staying power, "Hold Me" is Fleetwood Mac's biggest hit?

Until recently, "Hold Me" had been an overlooked, forgotten hit - absent from the set list for years. The "Mirage" album is an underrated gem.

It also had a great video in heavy rotation on MTV. Who can forget discombobulated Stevie wandering the desert in her red suede boots :eek:

[Macfan4life]

I have a book by Fred Bronson titled [Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits][/I] that attempts to quantify the biggest hits of the rock era by assigning a song points based on their chart run. A song earned 500 points for every week they were at the number 1 position, 400 points for every week at the number 2 position, 300 points for the number 3 position, 200 points for the number 4 position, 100 points for the number 5 position, 95 points for the number 6 position, 94 points for the number 7 position, and so on. This methodology rewards songs for both their chart peak and duration on the chart (ex. a song that peaks at #14 but stays on the Hot 100 for 15 weeks could still do better than a song that peaks at #8 but only stays in the Hot 100 for 7 weeks.

According to the book, "Waiting for a Girl Like You" is the 135th most successful song from the years 1955-2007. Meanwhile, "I Want to Know What Loves Is" ranks at #641.

If you're curious, I could also provide you with the top 30 most successful Fleetwood Mac songs on the Billboard Hot 100. The list includes Fleetwood Mac songs in addition to solo material from Christine McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, and Stevie Nicks, but not Bob Welch and Dave Mason, who would have otherwise had songs on the list had they been included.
Yes if you take that formula and philosophy Hold Me is Fleetwood Mac's biggest hit. Dreams is their only #1. As I mentioned earlier, Foreigner has this debate too because you will always here that "I Want To Know What Love Is" was their biggest "hit" because it was #1 for a few weeks.
A #1 song gives bragging rights. Most dont care about weeks on charts.
One of the most fascinating chart stories is Paul Davis's, I Go Crazy. It spent over 9 months on the Billboard charts. It peaked only at #7 but slowly rose and then would not drop off the charts. It ended 1978 as the 12th biggest hit that year even though it never came close to the #1 spot. It was released in August 1977 but did not peak until April 1978. That's insane.

"I Go Crazy" is a song written, composed, and recorded by American singer-songwriter Paul Davis. It was the first single released from his 1977 album Singer of Songs: Teller of Tales, and his second-highest peaking pop hit, peaking at #7 on the Billboard chart in 1978. The song entered the Billboard US Hot 100 pop singles chart on 27 August 1977 and began slowly climbing, peaking in March and April 1978, before dropping off the chart the week after 27 May 1978. Overall, it spent 40 weeks (nine months and one week) on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, setting what was then the record for the longest run on that chart, of consecutive weeks or not

[Villavic]

I see the Motels in that chart. I loved their songs.

[jbrownsjr]

I see the Motels in that chart. I loved their songs.

That Motels song is my favorite. I remember the video was in rotation, too.

[WalkAThinLine.]

I see the Motels in that chart. I loved their songs.

That Motels song is my favorite. I remember the video was in rotation, too.

Both of you have great taste. "Only the Lonely" is a great song.

[Macfan4life]

Both of you have great taste. "Only the Lonely" is a great song.
As silly 12 year olds on the verge of being a teenager, we used to say in Jr High that she sings Only The Lonely Get Laid once in the song.
When your hormones are raging you think you hear sex everywhere.

[David]

Who would have thought that, based on Billboard Chart staying power, "Hold Me" is Fleetwood Mac's biggest hit?

“Hold Me” got some love in the rock press, too. It may sound recherché to us now (a little like the Buckingham McVie album), but the public thought it was catchy. I remember that the LA Times’ Robert Hilburn (who always preferred the adventurous and raw) named it one of the ten best radio singles of first half of 1982 (along with “Maid of Orleans” by OMD and “A Town Called Malice” by the Jam), even though he thought the album as a whole was a too-safe retread (he may have been the first actual rock writer to say so).

Rock radio was especially bland in 1982 (the really good stuff from ABC and Grandmaster Flash and Springsteen that year tended not to get airplay). A few people wondered where Tusk had got to. The band settled in to a groove to what? get another no. 1 album? Some of that is unfair — Mirage actually sounds a lot more inventive than much of the junk in 1982. I think we all agree that the album is more craft than heart, but the craft is quite clever.

[jbrownsjr]

Both of you have great taste. "Only the Lonely" is a great song.

It really has a beautiful vocal. And the music is a tad haunting.

[jbrownsjr]

Speak of the Devil!!!

[jbrownsjr]

Look at Hold Me go!! Can she make it to #1??? :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

Hold me still hanging in there!!

[jbrownsjr]

Still Holding at 4. It did lose it's Bullet.

[jbrownsjr]

Aug 14, 1982, -- Still has a bullet!

[Wdm6789]

Only Fleetwood Mac could make a song that’s like 90% chorus, and the chorus only being two words repeated over and over, sound so good and so catchy.

[Villavic]

I never liked Eye of the Tiger that much. Though I won’t say I can’t believe it was number one for several weeks, and #2 in 1982. With all the marketing that went into the movie, is completely believable.

There are songs I read in these charts I had completely forgotten, like You should hear how she talks about you or Wasted on the way. And I still don’t remember Caught up in you.

[jbrownsjr]

August 21! Hold Me still strong at #4

[jbrownsjr]

Hold Me is Holding Steady, fits on that chart like a glove.

[Penguin Emeritus]

I never liked Eye of the Tiger that much. Though I won’t say I can’t believe it was number one for several weeks, and #2 in 1982. With all the marketing that went into the movie, is completely believable.

There are songs I read in these charts I had completely forgotten, like You should hear how she talks about you or Wasted on the way. And I still don’t remember Caught up in you.

Wasted on the Way was crosby stills and nash, right? I loved that song!! and same w Caught Up in You, 38 special, yeesh such great music back then. seeing all these old song titles makes me want to go play all these songs.

--Lis

[Macfan4life]

Wasted on the Way was crosby stills and nash, right? I loved that song!! and same w Caught Up in You, 38 special, yeesh such great music back then. seeing all these old song titles makes me want to go play all these songs.

--Lis
I love old countdown shows. The songs bring me back to exactly where I was at the time. This was the summer of 1982. The songs remind me of camping with my friend's family that summer. That Kenny Rogers song Love will turn you around was from his 1982 summer movie Six Pack. Most of the songs you still hear today except that Kenny Rogers song and that Paul McCartney song Take It Away. Its also sad to see how many people are not around. I believe the old singer of Survivor who sang Eye of the Tiger passed away years ago and so did David Crosby, Donna Summer, and Kenny Rogers. Speaking of Donna Summer, I dont recall that song that is on the chart. I looked it up on youtube and swear I never heard it before.

[jbrownsjr]

I love old countdown shows. The songs bring me back to exactly where I was at the time. This was the summer of 1982. The songs remind me of camping with my friend's family that summer. That Kenny Rogers song Love will turn you around was from his 1982 summer movie Six Pack. Most of the songs you still hear today except that Kenny Rogers song and that Paul McCartney song Take It Away. Its also sad to see how many people are not around. I believe the old singer of Survivor who sang Eye of the Tiger passed away years ago and so did David Crosby, Donna Summer, and Kenny Rogers. Speaking of Donna Summer, I dont recall that song that is on the chart. I looked it up on youtube and swear I never heard it before.

When driving to Joplin, MO from Cleveland, OH: Heard Hold Me, Jack and Diane, Eye in the Sye and Eye in the Sky a million times. Great trip. (I actually had a tape recorder and everyone was sleeping and my dad was driving, so I recorded a bunch of songs.)

[jbrownsjr]

Sept 5 1982 After 12 weeks, it still at #4. Hold Me did lose it's bullet, however.

[Justin Reach]

So what was the main reason that Hold Me bombed in the UK? You'd think it'd at least go Top 40 but it didn't chart. Did it get any airplay in the UK?

[Villavic]

So what was the main reason that Hold Me bombed in the UK? You'd think it'd at least go Top 40 but it didn't chart. Did it get any airplay in the UK?

It's weird. The Hold Me Wikipedia page includes Australia, Belgium, Canada, Nertherlands, New Zealand, US and West Germany, but not UK.

However it does show a UK 1989 chart where it reaches position #94, and looking the source page, it is from the GH album.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19890226/7501/

[WalkAThinLine.]

It's weird. The Hold Me Wikipedia page includes Australia, Belgium, Canada, Nertherlands, New Zealand, US and West Germany, but not UK.

However it does show a UK 1989 chart where it reaches position #94, and looking the source page, it is from the GH album.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19890226/7501/

The Brits just wanted to hear "Oh Diane" 24/7. "Gypsy" also performed rather poorly in the UK, peaking at #46. It's crazy that "Can't Go Back" performed better in the UK than "Hold Me".

[Macfan4life]

The Brits just wanted to hear "Oh Diane" 24/7. "Gypsy" also performed rather poorly in the UK, peaking at #46. It's crazy that "Can't Go Back" performed better in the UK than "Hold Me".
The Brits also loved Stevie's OSOTM. I think her album peaked at #3 there. They also loved BTM.
They are insane over there I tell you.
By the way, can you tell I am 25% bloody insane?

[jbrownsjr]

Hold Me didn't get past #4, and without a bullet falls to #7 on the charts. I'm Casey Kasem and Here's Christine McVie with Hold Me.

[Villavic]

Hold Me didn't get past #4, and without a bullet falls to #7 on the charts. I'm Casey Kasem and Here's Christine McVie with Hold Me.

If I could ask for a long distance dedication to Casey, it would be in 1997 and the song would be Silver Springs (though not sure if during that year he still had that segment). I kind of lived that SS story.

[jbrownsjr]

Look at Hold Me hanging on for dear life, but still in the top 10. On the charts almost 4 months. That's pretty impressive

[jbrownsjr]

Hold Me Fell pretty fast after camping out in the top 10 for nearly 4 months. But, looks who's climbing the ladder after 4 weeks(almost a month on the chart) I think Gypsy made it to #11.

[WalkAThinLine.]

Hold Me Fell pretty fast after camping out in the top 10 for nearly 4 months. But, looks who's climbing the ladder after 4 weeks(almost a month on the chart) I think Gypsy made it to #11.

Wow, that's a massive fall for "Hold Me". "Gypsy" ended up reaching #12, which is surprisingly low. Granted, it held that spot for three consecutive weeks. Looking at what ranked above it, there were some heavy hitters: "Jack and Diane", "Who Can it Be Now", and "Up Where We Belong" traded spots at the summit, "I Keep Forgetting" held strong in the top five for several weeks, and "Eye of the Sky" by The Alan Parsons Project also occupied the region.

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, that's a massive fall for "Hold Me". "Gypsy" ended up reaching #12, which is surprisingly low. Granted, it held that spot for three consecutive weeks. Looking at what ranked above it, there were some heavy hitters: "Jack and Diane", "Who Can it Be Now", and "Up Where We Belong" traded spots at the summit, "I Keep Forgetting" held strong in the top five for several weeks, and "Eye of the Sky" by The Alan Parsons Project also occupied the region.

I think after 4 months, the radio stations and MTV were tired of playing Hold Me. They played the s*** out of it.

Love Eye in the Sky and I Keep Forgetting.

[HomerMcvie]

I think after 4 months, the radio stations and MTV were tired of playing Hold Me. They played the s*** out of it.

Love Eye in the Sky and I Keep Forgetting.

I used to be obsessed with Eye in the Sky.

[Villavic]

I used to be obsessed with Eye in the Sky.

Yes and my obsession included to listen with the previous instrumental piece, Sirius.

[SteveMacD]

Incidentally, Elmer Gantry from the fake Fleetwood Mac sang a song on the Eye In The Sky album.

[jbrownsjr]

Incidentally, Elmer Gantry from the fake Fleetwood Mac sang a song on the Eye In The Sky album.

That is in and of itself, hilarious! Plus, the fact that you have that information in your head... :laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

That is in and of itself, hilarious! Plus, the fact that you have that information in your head... :laugh:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[WalkAThinLine.]

Incidentally, Elmer Gantry from the fake Fleetwood Mac sang a song on the Eye In The Sky album.

Yeah, he sang on "Psychobabble", which fared very modestly on the Billboard Hot 100, peaking at #57. Gantry also appeared on the opening track of their previous album, The Turn of a Friendly Card.

Psychobabble - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDXa4FkAw-4

May Be a Price to Pay - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz1Ih2gBbfU

[jbrownsjr]

I love that Hold Me is played heavily, still, all over Classic Rock and Blend stations on Sirius XM.

[jbrownsjr]

Hold Me after more than 4 months on the charts getting ready to fall out of the top 100 singles.

Gypsy not in top 15 yet. Jack and Diane #1 October 9, 1982.

Nice run for Hold Me!

[jbrownsjr]

Closing out a great song with the artwork of the 45 single.

[Villavic]

Closing out a great song with the artwork of the 45 single.

Their heights are oddly modified. :)

[jbrownsjr]

Their heights are oddly modified. :)

Maybe they were standing on un-even ground. But, yeah I agree.

[Macfan4life]

Maybe they were standing on un-even ground. But, yeah I agree.
But Chris has her glass of wine that she is not putting down for NOBODY!

I LOVE the Mirage show when running back to the stage for the encore Chris is being ushered through the backstage tunnels and hands her glass of wine off to someone like she's done a million times :)

[jbrownsjr]

But Chris has her glass of wine that she is not putting down for NOBODY!

I LOVE the Mirage show when running back to the stage for the encore Chris is being ushered through the backstage tunnels and hands her glass of wine off to someone like she's done a million times :)

I think during the Dance escort for rehearsals, she hands someone her gum. :lol:

[Macfan4life]

I think during the Dance escort for rehearsals, she hands someone her gum. :lol:
During the Dance, the wine glass was replaced by that green cup. I wonder what was in it. During her 1984 solo gig she paused on stage and said "this is thirsty work" and drank from a glass with a straw and said it was lemonade.

[Villavic]

I LOVE the Mirage show when running back to the stage for the encore Chris is being ushered through the backstage tunnels and hands her glass of wine off to someone like she's done a million times :)

Thank for mention it. I had completely forgotten that scene. It's been a while since I have watched the whole show.

[Macfan4life]

Thank for mention it. I had completely forgotten that scene. It's been a while since I have watched the whole show.
Its one of the coolest things I've seen a rocker do. She's almost like royalty. She did not guzzle it down in her dressing room. She kept it in her hand (possibly to get one last sip before the encore)to hand off while she is escorted back on stage. Its done with such finesse that you can tell she's done it hundreds of times.

****I bow to thee royalty***

[Villavic]

What's the picture in Mick's t shirt? I thought it was a penguin but actually no. And it says the artwork is Lindsey's

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/8a/96/288a960eb365046ced653d248f743d69.png

[jbrownsjr]

During the Dance, the wine glass was replaced by that green cup. I wonder what was in it. During her 1984 solo gig she paused on stage and said "this is thirsty work" and drank from a glass with a straw and said it was lemonade.

I think for the gum thing, they were outside the sound stage and she hands it to Mick or someone next to Mick. Cant remember exactly. But, she's walking!!