Kansas City 1984

[jbrownsjr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE-4oDVrr50

Wow, this is so good! Just so damn good! :nod:

[BigAl84]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE-4oDVrr50

Wow, this is so good! Just so damn good! :nod:

Her version of YMLF sounds more like Fleetwood Mac than Fleetwood Mac did in 2018!

What a great show. She could have had a massive solo career, so underrated.

[jbrownsjr]

Her version of YMLF sounds more like Fleetwood Mac than Fleetwood Mac did in 2018!

What a great show. She could have had a massive solo career, so underrated.

They jam!!! It's a lil blues/jazzy and improv. More than you know who (s)...

I wished she'd explored this more.

[BLY]

I’m so glad I saw her on that tour. The set list was amazing and her band rocked!

[Macfan4life]

Was the other Kansas City deleted from youtube? Its odd that both Kansas City shows were uploaded. Maybe it was professionally recorded?
Her band was so good. I am glad I got to see it but I cherish my live in Jackson, NJ show on CD. It was a very common sold bootleg on Ebay on CD back in the day.

[BLY]

[QUOTE=Macfan4life;

Her band was so good. I am glad I got to see it but I cherish my live in Jackson, NJ show on CD. It was a very common sold bootleg on Ebay on CD back in the day.[/QUOTE]


I have two decent live CDs from the tour. A 1983 show from a California country club and a 1984 live show from Chicago.

[jbrownsjr]

I have two decent live CDs from the tour. A 1983 show from a California country club and a 1984 live show from Chicago.

I've heard a bunch of them as well. I'd give anything to hear Cleveland.

This one is really good. I love her personality so much. She says more in 5 words than the others can in 10 minute intros.

[Macfan4life]

Here is Columbus. The quality is much better than Kansas City. I love how they clap along to Songbird. Love that these are popping up. I would love to hear Pittsburgh just to hear her say Detroit ;) On another note. It appears the guy who was uploading all sorts of vintage Mac and Chris shows channel has disappeared from youtube. That channel had the best concerts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJiIjyN92fs

[jbrownsjr]

Here is Columbus. The quality is much better than Kansas City. I love how they clap along to Songbird. Love that these are popping up. I would love to hear Pittsburgh just to hear her say Detroit ;) On another note. It appears the guy who was uploading all sorts of vintage Mac and Chris shows channel has disappeared from youtube. That channel had the best concerts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJiIjyN92fs

Thanks for posting! Now find Cle and Pitt! I still think it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Better than BuckVie even.

[Macfan4life]

yes a real treat. I was in awe in 1984 and still in awe of that show. The Columbus crowd sounded really good. Her band was so freaking good but what you do expect? Chris is not going to hire scrubs.

[jbrownsjr]

yes a real treat. I was in awe in 1984 and still in awe of that show. The Columbus crowd sounded really good. Her band was so freaking good but what you do expect? Chris is not going to hire scrubs.

Makes me miss her all that much more. And now I guess it's me: beggin you (beggin you) beggin you (beggin you) begggggggin youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

[jbrownsjr]

Columbus, Don't Stop!! Holy moly!

[Macfan4life]

She blew the roof off.
One In A Million goes into Hold Me, Got A Hold On Me, Over My Head, You Make Loving Fun, Too Much Is Not Enough then Dont Stop.

Good grief. We all need to smoke a cigarette after each of those songs.

[jbrownsjr]

She blew the roof off.
One In A Million goes into Hold Me, Got A Hold On Me, Over My Head, You Make Loving Fun, Too Much Is Not Enough then Dont Stop.

Good grief. We all need to smoke a cigarette after each of those songs.

Don't Stop might be the best I've ever heard (columbus) Reminds me of her piano at the end of THE CITY. Just smokin! :woohoo:

[Macfan4life]

Don't Stop might be the best I've ever heard (columbus) Reminds me of her piano at the end of THE CITY. Just smokin! :woohoo:
She played it on a grand piano too which is quite rare. Didn't she play Not That Funny, Sara, and Dont Stop at the upright piano for Tusk and Mirage. Her solo tour she brought a real grand piano on stage for her piano songs. By the time the next Mac tours came around in 1987 and 1990, the electric piano keyboard sound was the norm. Although Chris did play a grand piano during Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For you. She always played Songbird on a grand piano, correct?
Correct me if I am wrong but this could be the only Dont Stop at a grand piano (1984 tour)?
Besides Hold Me, she also played Got A Hold On Me on the grand piano.

[jbrownsjr]

She played it on a grand piano too which is quite rare. Didn't she play Not That Funny, Sara, and Dont Stop at the upright piano for Tusk and Mirage. Her solo tour she brought a real grand piano on stage for her piano songs. By the time the next Mac tours came around in 1987 and 1990, the electric piano keyboard sound was the norm. Although Chris did play a grand piano during Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For you. She always played Songbird on a grand piano, correct?
Correct me if I am wrong but this could be the only Dont Stop at a grand piano (1984 tour)?
Besides Hold Me, she also played Got A Hold On Me on the grand piano.

Yes, I remember her walking back and forth with Eddy. 1984 (grand)
Yes, on all of the other. Upright for Tusk and Mirage. Although, the Live album doesn't sound like an upright even tho it is. (NTF)

[HomerMcvie]

I only remember Not That Funny and Sara on the upright.

[jbrownsjr]

I only remember Not That Funny and Sara on the upright.

Don't Stop? that was upright, too. No? I'm asking. I honestly can't remember.

U.S Fest she used the grand.

[Macfan4life]

I only remember Not That Funny and Sara on the upright.
Maybe if you did not spend so much time at that darn concession stand buying hot dogs, pop corn, and slushies you would have saw Don't Stop and remembered it.

[jbrownsjr]

You can tell she loves the Columbus crowd. They got a treat.

[aleuzzi]

Don't Stop? that was upright, too. No? I'm asking. I honestly can't remember.

U.S Fest she used the grand.

Don’t Stop was never on the upright—at least in any of the videos I saw. I remember the Keyboard feature where she was the cover story. It clarified that she used the grand for two songs and the upright for two songs: the latter were Sara and Not That Funny; the former were Don’t Stop and Songbird.

Years later, in the Tango tour era, she ditched the upright and only used the grand—and occasionally played Stevie’s HAEWAFY on it. In The Dance era, she played the opening passages of Rhiannon and all of Silver Springs on it, but not Don’t Stop.

[HomerMcvie]

Maybe if you did not spend so much time at that darn concession stand buying hot dogs, pop corn, and slushies you would have saw Don't Stop and remembered it.

Aren't you late getting back to the home?

Did your Jazzy scooter lose it's charge?

[Macfan4life]

You can tell she loves the Columbus crowd. They got a treat.
Most definitely. I would love to know the attendance of the show. The crowd is on fire. I wish I could magically go back in time at my age and car. Just think. You could have seen this show in Columbus on the 8th, drove to Cleveland on the 9th, then drove to Pittsburgh for the 11th and could have been almost front row or very close each night.

[Macfan4life]

Yes it appears she has used 2 styles of pianos in concert. Interesting fact. I am not a piano expert so I am curious why Sara and NTF were used on the upright. Dont Stop has always been played on a grand until later years when the electric keyboard could sound just like a real piano.
I would love to hear it directly from her since they are her songs. But any piano experts around? Maybe because I have the visual in my head of her playing the upright on Sara and NTF but it seems cooler IMHO. I know songs like Songbird are more delicate and made to be played on the grand.

[jbrownsjr]

Yes it appears she has used 2 styles of pianos in concert. Interesting fact. I am not a piano expert so I am curious why Sara and NTF were used on the upright. Dont Stop has always been played on a grand until later years when the electric keyboard could sound just like a real piano.
I would love to hear it directly from her since they are her songs. But any piano experts around? Maybe because I have the visual in my head of her playing the upright on Sara and NTF but it seems cooler IMHO. I know songs like Songbird are more delicate and made to be played on the grand.

I think early on she had a tack piano (not sure if I spelled that correctly) for the upright. So maybe, she didn't want that for Don't Stop?

Where the hell is David or SteveMac?

[aleuzzi]

Yes it appears she has used 2 styles of pianos in concert. Interesting fact. I am not a piano expert so I am curious why Sara and NTF were used on the upright. Dont Stop has always been played on a grand until later years when the electric keyboard could sound just like a real piano.
I would love to hear it directly from her since they are her songs. But any piano experts around? Maybe because I have the visual in my head of her playing the upright on Sara and NTF but it seems cooler IMHO. I know songs like Songbird are more delicate and made to be played on the grand.

Really more for visual effect, I think. In addition to the upright having a honky-tonk sound, she could play it right alongside the others, whereas whenever she used the grand it was positioned so far to the left of the stage that she was pretty physically removed from them. You can guess how far this was in the live German version of Don’t Stop (1980) where the only shot we get of her playing or singing is BEFORE the song starts—and even then it appears to be stock footage. The camera crew could not include her in a wide band shot.

The problem was rectified by the time of The Dance because by then the grand piano was placed on a rotating disc that also included her keyboards, so whenever she played one of them, the stage rotated.

However, such an ingenious device was not used for the On With The Show tour. There, the piano was air lifted onto the stage for one song—Songbird. All other piano parts were shared by her and Brett on electric pianos. And in 2018, the piano was left home.

[HomerMcvie]

Really more for visual effect, I think. In addition to the upright having a honky-tonk sound, she could play it right alongside the others, whereas whenever she used the grand it was positioned so far to the left of the stage that she was pretty physically removed from them. You can guess how far this was in the live German version of Don’t Stop (1980) where the only shot we get of her playing or singing is BEFORE the song starts—and even then it appears to be stock footage. The camera crew could not include her in a wide band shot.

The problem was rectified by the time of The Dance because by then the grand piano was placed on a rotating disc that also included her keyboards, so whenever she played one of them, the stage rotated.

However, such an ingenious device was not used for the On With The Show tour. There, the piano was air lifted onto the stage for one song—Songbird. All other piano parts were shared by her and Brett on electric pianos. And in 2018, the piano was left home.
I swear that for Mirage, it rose from beneath the stage(god, that's been 41 years ago- kill me now).

And I agree that uprights sound more "honky tonk", plus the visual of her playing it on the other side of the stage.

[jbrownsjr]

I swear that for Mirage, it rose from beneath the stage(god, that's been 41 years ago- kill me now).

And I agree that uprights sound more "honky tonk", plus the visual of her playing it on the other side of the stage.

I loved when she played the upright!

[aleuzzi]

I swear that for Mirage, it rose from beneath the stage(god, that's been 41 years ago- kill me now).

And I agree that uprights sound more "honky tonk", plus the visual of her playing it on the other side of the stage.

You’re likely right. A lot of production for very little use of the piano. I wish she’d played it more…

[Macfan4life]

For Tango, the grand piano did rise out of the stage. I remember seeing that and thinking, wow that's so cool. I was not there for Mirage so cant comment. I think the visual in my head was I have seen Chris play the upright piano endless times on the Mirage concert on NTF and the Sara video led me to believe the Dont Stop shuffle was done on the upright. It was in my head even though it was not accurate. Is not a shuffle a bit of honky tonk? It's what was always in my head. My first live witness of Dont Stop was on her 1984 solo tour. But every tour I have seen on youtube shows her playing the grand piano for Dont Stop. When technology came out the grand piano may not have been needed as much. I suppose because it was always used for Songbird, why not use it for HAEWAFY too.

[jbrownsjr]

For Tango, the grand piano did rise out of the stage. I remember seeing that and thinking, wow that's so cool. I was not there for Mirage so cant comment. I think the visual in my head was I have seen Chris play the upright piano endless times on the Mirage concert on NTF and the Sara video led me to believe the Dont Stop shuffle was done on the upright. It was in my head even though it was not accurate. Is not a shuffle a bit of honky tonk? It's what was always in my head. My first live witness of Dont Stop was on her 1984 solo tour. But every tour I have seen on youtube shows her playing the grand piano for Dont Stop. When technology came out the grand piano may not have been needed as much. I suppose because it was always used for Songbird, why not use it for HAEWAFY too.

I actually loved the piano intro's to SS And Rhiannon. Beautiful.

[aleuzzi]

I actually loved the piano intro's to SS And Rhiannon. Beautiful.

Agreed. She should have used the piano on more songs.

[jbrownsjr]

Agreed. She should have used the piano on more songs.

They should have done Why a lot more with piano intro. The boot I have with B Welch has the Come a little Bit Closer plus Why Intro. Kind of cool.

[Macfan4life]

Another concert gets posted. Des Moines, Iowa 04/29/94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=089BOOGCO3g

[jbrownsjr]

Another concert gets posted. Des Moines, Iowa 04/29/94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=089BOOGCO3g

Hey Macfan, what do you think of the backing vocals on Spare Me.

Just fantastic in my opinion. Sounds like Bare Trees!! (her harmony with herself)

[Macfan4life]

Hey Macfan, what do you think of the backing vocals on Spare Me.

Just fantastic in my opinion. Sounds like Bare Trees!! (her harmony with herself)
Yes very good. I love the uptempo Just Crazy Love too.
George and her band harmonizes with her really well. Its incredible how a tour with Loggins Messina created songs, solo bands, marriages, friends, duets, etc for the rest of the band's existence.

[jbrownsjr]

Yes very good. I love the uptempo Just Crazy Love too.
George and her band harmonizes with her really well. Its incredible how a tour with Loggins Messina created songs, solo bands, marriages, friends, duets, etc for the rest of the band's existence.

Sara Recor, too.

[Macfan4life]

Sara Recor, too.
Yes. I have always said you could do a family tree from the connections that lasted from that tour. Besides Sara who was Loggin's tour manager's wife who became Stevie's best friend and then Mick's wife. Her husband wrote Love In Store with Chris. Kenny of course did his duet hit with Stevie. George was Kenny's bass player. The list goes on and on. Todd played with Hall and Oats but he and George were part of Mick's band too.

[jbrownsjr]

Yes. I have always said you could do a family tree from the connections that lasted from that tour. Besides Sara who was Loggin's tour manager's wife who became Stevie's best friend and then Mick's wife. Her husband wrote Love In Store with Chris. Kenny of course did his duet hit with Stevie. George was Kenny's bass player. The list goes on and on. Todd played with Hall and Oats but he and George were part of Mick's band too.

It's all so incestuous!

[jbrownsjr]

Yes very good. I love the uptempo Just Crazy Love too.
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I remember the Cleveland crowd jamming to the Welch era tunes. I paid close attention to see if anyone knew them and they did.