What Fleetwood Mac songs are really Lindsey solo songs?

[bwboy]

I wasn’t sure whether to put this in the Rumours forum of the Lindsey forum, but ultimately decided on the Rumours forum. My question is, has it ever been said definitively which Lindsey songs that appeared on FM albums were actually recorded with the band? I know we could all guess, but has it ever been acknowledged for sure which songs they were? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Definite solo songs:
Make Me a Mask
The Ledge
Save Me a Place
It Takes Time
That’s Enough For Me

95% certain solo songs:
Family Man
Big Love
Tango in the Night
That’s All For Everyone
Not That a funny
Book of Love

Always wondered about:
Caroline
Tusk
I Know I’m Not Wrong
Empire State
Oh Diane
Book of Love

I really wonder about Tusk- I assume the band recorded it together, but with the marching band playing along, I can’t really tell.

[SteveMacD]

I know Mick was playing a steak on Tusk.

[WalkAThinLine.]

I wasn’t sure whether to put this in the Rumours forum of the Lindsey forum, but ultimately decided on the Rumours forum. My question is, has it ever been said definitively which Lindsey songs that appeared on FM albums were actually recorded with the band? I know we could all guess, but has it ever been acknowledged for sure which songs they were? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Definite solo songs:
Make Me a Mask

95% certain solo songs:
Family Man
Big Love
Tango in the Night
Walk a Thin Line
What Makes You Think You’re the One
That’s All For Everyone
Not That a funny
Book of Love

Always wondered about:
Caroline
Tusk
The Ledge
I Know I’m Not Wrong
Empire State
Oh Diane
Book of Love

I really wonder about Tusk- I assume the band recorded it together, but with the marching band playing along, I can’t really tell.

In a 1981 interview with Musician Magazine, Buckingham said that "The Ledge", "Save Me a Place", and "That's Enough For Me" were recorded all by himself. The liner notes of Tusk's 2015 deluxe edition mention that "What Makes You Think You're the One" only featured Lindsey and Mick. During the Tusk documentary, there's also footage of Mick Fleetwood aggressively striking a snare drum on "Walk a Thin Line" and another segment with Nicks and Christine McVie recording backing vocals on the same song, although I'm not entirely sure if they were used on the final mix.

If I remember correctly, John McVie mentioned in a Q&A with The Penguin that he played bass on "Caroline". The vocal interlude in "Family Man" was also sung by Nicks according to Buckingham in a 1987 interview.

[jbrownsjr]

I know Mick was playing a steak on Tusk.

It was on Mirage that he played a lamb steak.

[WalkAThinLine.]

It was on Mirage that he played a lamb steak.

Mick Fleetwood certainly played lamb chops on "Tusk" (specifically with a spatula), although I'm not entirely sure if he used the food as an instrument on any Mirage tracks.

[jbrownsjr]

Mick Fleetwood certainly played lamb chops on "Tusk" (specifically with a spatula), although I'm not entirely sure if he used the food as an instrument on any Mirage tracks.

Someone told me the played a lamb steak on put it on Hold Me.

[UnwindedDreams]

I wasn’t sure whether to put this in the Rumours forum of the Lindsey forum, but ultimately decided on the Rumours forum. My question is, has it ever been said definitively which Lindsey songs that appeared on FM albums were actually recorded with the band? I know we could all guess, but has it ever been acknowledged for sure which songs they were? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Definite solo songs:
Make Me a Mask

add It Takes Time

[WalkAThinLine.]

Someone told me the played a lamb steak on put it on Hold Me.

I'm sure you're referring to the whip crack sound on the chorus. The source of that sound remains a mystery to me, although I may have read that it was simply a guitar effect from Buckingham.

[bwboy]

add It Takes Time

Wow, thanks everyone! Much appreciated!

I have never heard (or heard of) It Takes Time. Can you tell me about it?

[HomerMcvie]

I'm sure you're referring to the whip crack sound on the chorus. The source of that sound remains a mystery to me, although I may have read that it was simply a guitar effect from Buckingham.

I have ALWAYS wondered what was making that sound.

[elle]

Wow, thanks everyone! Much appreciated!

I have never heard (or heard of) It Takes Time. Can you tell me about it?

you didn't download EP in 2013?

[WalkAThinLine.]

Wow, thanks everyone! Much appreciated!

I have never heard (or heard of) It Takes Time. Can you tell me about it?

"It Takes Time" was released on a digital-only extended play aptly titled Extended Play. When Fleetwood Mac was prepping for their 2013 tour, the original plan was to release two singles, namely "Sad Angel" and "Miss Fantasy", both of which were written by Buckingham and recorded by the full band around 2012. However, Nicks reportedly felt underutilized and felt self-conscious about not contributing any songs of her own, so she dug up an old demo she originally co-wrote with Buckingham prior to joining the band. The EP was fleshed out with "It Takes Time", a very sparse Buckingham ballad that lacks any guitars. Instead, the song is centered around the piano and voice, with very cheesy synth strings entering in on the chorus. Musically, the song is rather clunky and arguably unfit for a Fleetwood Mac release.

[BLY]

If it’s on a Fleetwood Mac album it’s not a solo song. I get the question but ever since TUSK it’s always been a good question. Lindsey obviously used more of his “own musical stuff “ from 1979-1987 on the the Fleetwood Mac albums instead of using his band.

[bwboy]

you didn't download EP in 2013?

Thank you! Yes, I did, but I only remembered Miss Fantasy, Sad Angel, and Without You. I honestly can’t even remember how it goes, so I’ll have to listen to the EP to refresh my memory.

[bwboy]

"It Takes Time" was released on a digital-only extended play aptly titled Extended Play. When Fleetwood Mac was prepping for their 2013 tour, the original plan was to release two singles, namely "Sad Angel" and "Miss Fantasy", both of which were written by Buckingham and recorded by the full band around 2012. However, Nicks reportedly felt underutilized and felt self-conscious about not contributing any songs of her own, so she dug up an old demo she originally co-wrote with Buckingham prior to joining the band. The EP was fleshed out with "It Takes Time", a very sparse Buckingham ballad that lacks any guitars. Instead, the song is centered around the piano and voice, with very cheesy synth strings entering in on the chorus. Musically, the song is rather clunky and arguably unfit for a Fleetwood Mac release.

I really can’t remember the song, so clearly it didn’t make an impact on me. But I didn’t know how the EP came to be, so thank you for the info.

[UnwindedDreams]

"It Takes Time" was released on a digital-only extended play aptly titled Extended Play. When Fleetwood Mac was prepping for their 2013 tour, the original plan was to release two singles, namely "Sad Angel" and "Miss Fantasy", both of which were written by Buckingham and recorded by the full band around 2012. However, Nicks reportedly felt underutilized and felt self-conscious about not contributing any songs of her own, so she dug up an old demo she originally co-wrote with Buckingham prior to joining the band. The EP was fleshed out with "It Takes Time", a very sparse Buckingham ballad that lacks any guitars. Instead, the song is centered around the piano and voice, with very cheesy synth strings entering in on the chorus. Musically, the song is rather clunky and arguably unfit for a Fleetwood Mac release.
I don't think the original plan was to release two singles; it was to make an album.
Stevie said something about not wanting to record because her mother died. I think her mother died in December 2011. She went on tour in summer of 2012, premiered her In Your Dreams doc in the fall. At the end of 2012, she went to Lindsey's house to record three songs.
Lindsey desired for Stevie to contribute songs to the band's recording so she chose Without You because it was found on YouTube.
It Takes Time was probably put on the EP to actually make it an EP. Mick loves It Takes Time and believes it to be Lindsey's apology to Stevie.

[aleuzzi]

I



95% certain solo songs:
Family Man
Big Love
Tango in the Night
.

I’d say yes to “Big Love” and “Family Man”. Mick and John are definitely playing on “Tango in the Night”—at least according to Mick in his first book. And it does sound like they are.

My guess is Mick provided the drum beats that were probably looped in “Caroline.”

[cbBen]

you didn't download EP in 2013?

The Extended Play EP is available on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG34ZycDMbw

If you don't know how to download from YouTube (it's relatively easy), I'm happy to post a link to the files.

What I didn't have the presence of mind to download, to my eternal regret, is the now-unavailable One Man Show live album.

If anyone wants to help me out, please post a download link or DM me. I am happy to reciprocate with a Lindsey radio broadcast from 1992 (San Luis Obispo, his actual first solo show – not Centerstage as he claimed), as well as the 12/15/20 video live stream he did during lockdown.

[Villavic]

Why didn't anyone mention Never Going Back Again?

[SteveMacD]

Anything on Time > “It Takes Time”

[cbBen]

Why didn't anyone mention Never Going Back Again?

Indeed, he's the only one on the track. It's not as good a song, but it's like his "Songbird."

[jbrownsjr]

Indeed, he's the only one on the track. It's not as good a song, but it's like his "Songbird."

I wish he would play it at regular/original tempo.

[jmn3]

I wish he would play it at regular/original tempo.

I really liked how they reinterpreted it for the Say You Will Tour. Ever since it has gotten increasingly slower. When I saw LB in 2021, it was still a highlight of the show but at a few points you want to yell out to him to move that hand just a tad faster!

[UnwindedDreams]

Why didn't anyone mention Never Going Back Again?
Stevie doesn't have any vocal sounds on it?

[cbBen]

"Walk A Thin Line."

According to his 1993 interview with Paul Zollo in the book Songwriters On Songwriting, Lindsey plays the drums: "That was me on drums. Mick was appalled. He was appalled that these drums were going out and people would think that it's him (sic), because it offended the finer points of his sensibilities. And I understand that. I was really going for slop."

Maybe John's on it, but I doubt Christine is. May be all Lindsey.

[cbBen]

Stevie doesn't have any vocal sounds on it?

From 0:47 to 0:52 (five seconds total) on "Never Going Back Again," there is a blend of voices that seems to include Stevie, Christine, or both.

But again, it's five seconds total.

[cbBen]

"Songbird"

[GypsySorcerer]

I'd all but forgotten about EP.

The synth strings on "It Takes Time" weren't a good decision, but I appreciated the olive branch he was extending to Stevie. Such a shame she cost us that album.

[aleuzzi]

Why didn't anyone mention Never Going Back Again?

Because Stevie sings on it.

[aleuzzi]

"Walk A Thin Line."

According to his 1993 interview with Paul Zollo in the book Songwriters On Songwriting, Lindsey plays the drums: "That was me on drums. Mick was appalled. He was appalled that these drums were going out and people would think that it's him (sic), because it offended the finer points of his sensibilities. And I understand that. I was really going for slop."

Maybe John's on it, but I doubt Christine is. May be all Lindsey.

Christine and Stevie sing on it. There’s footage of them doing so. Also, Christine helped him arrange the background vocal parts, of which there is also footage.

[jbrownsjr]

Christine and Stevie sing on it. There’s footage of them doing so. Also, Christine helped him arrange the background vocal parts, of which there is also footage.

Was that the one where they tell Stevie to hold off on the vibrato?

[aleuzzi]

Was that the one where they tell Stevie to hold off on the vibrato?

Yes. And there's another video where Christine is singing out the background part to Lindsey and he says "I like what I'm hearing" or something like that...

[HomerMcvie]

Was that the one where they tell Stevie to hold off on the vibrato?

And then(Lindsey and Christine) lock eyes after saying that to the old goat. So telling of what they felt about her.

[aleuzzi]

Yes. And there's another video where Christine is singing out the background part to Lindsey and he says "I like what I'm hearing" or something like that...

At the 58-minute mark, you see Christine and Lindsey working on those background vocal parts together (before the inclusion of Stevie).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZnDFNRPkKM

However, there is also another clip, which I cannot locate, where Christine is outright suggesting the pattern to Lindsey and demonstrating it to him. Lindsey likes it and picks up on it. But I cannot find that right now.

[jbrownsjr]

At the 58-minute mark, you see Christine and Lindsey working on those background vocal parts together (before the inclusion of Stevie).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZnDFNRPkKM

However, there is also another clip, which I cannot locate, where Christine is outright suggesting the pattern to Lindsey and demonstrating it to him. Lindsey likes it and picks up on it. But I cannot find that right now.

Find it! :blob2:

[HomerMcvie]

Find it! :blob2:

Bossy boots!

[aleuzzi]

Bossy boots!

She is, ain't she. Like I'm some librarian at the rare books room and bossy boots needs a source for his term paper.

[cbBen]

This is turning out to be the best correction ever. Love you guys!

[jbrownsjr]

This is turning out to be the best correction ever. Love you guys!

Awwww, love you to cbBen. :xoxo:

[jbrownsjr]

She is, ain't she. Like I'm some librarian at the rare books room and bossy boots needs a source for his term paper.

:wavey::laugh::):lol: That's right!

[HomerMcvie]

She is, ain't she. Like I'm some librarian at the rare books room and bossy boots needs a source for his term paper.

Man, did you hit that nail on the head! :lol::lol::lol:

[jbrownsjr]

Man, did you hit that nail on the head! :lol::lol::lol:

I'm almost finished writing it.

[aleuzzi]

I'm almost finished writing it.

You talk a lot about cycles in that paper...

[jbrownsjr]

You talk a lot about cycles in that paper...

organic re-cycled paper dolls

[Villavic]

Because Stevie sings on it.

Really? Did she??? I can't believe after 46 years I never realized Stevie sings in NGBA.

Of course I meant the studio version, cause I've seen her singing in some live versions, included as invited in Lindsey's gigs.

BEfore I posted I checked Wikipedia page about that song, it only mentions Lindsey in Personnel section. I know Wikipedia is not 100% reliable but it was the only source I found. And it's the song I always considered kind of his solo.

Ok, at what moment does she sing? Is she singing the mmmmm part at 0:51, and almost at the end? Cause those are the only parts I could say it seems Stevie's voice (and if it is, weird Christine didn't join in that part).