Stevie and Dolly Parton New Collab

[krrrby]

Dolly is doing a rock and roll album, and Stevie has done a song with her:

Listen around the 2 minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUZEjbuNFs4

[Tusky]

Am I right in thinking she wanted Dolly to sing After The Glitter Fades originally?

[vermicious knid]

Yes, supposedly she sent it to Dolly in the early seventies hoping Dolly would use it on an album, and never heard back about it.

It seems like they have been circling each other's orbits for a long time without really connecting before now. A few years back Dolly made some really nice (and untrue) comment about how Stevie was such a fine songwriter that Dolly couldn't match her.

I have never seen a picture of them together. Surely this collaboration won't have been the first time they have met, though?

[BombaySapphire3]

Yes, supposedly she sent it to Dolly in the early seventies hoping Dolly would use it on an album, and never heard back about it.

It seems like they have been circling each other's orbits for a long time without really connecting before now. A few years back Dolly made some really nice (and untrue) comment about how Stevie was such a fine songwriter that Dolly couldn't match her.

I have never seen a picture of them together. Surely this collaboration won't have been the first time they have met, though?

I am not sure that someone like Dolly would wish to be around someone with the current Stevie's self absorbtion and bloated sense of importance. The country singers of Dolly's generation often came from childhoods of abject poverty. Stevie complained about having to make hamburger helper during the few months that her wealthy parents cut her off before she joined FM. I know that Stevie was in Betty Ford at the same time as the late Tammy Wynette. Tammy in spite of all her troubles remained a down to earth and kind lady. I don't believe that they interacted and Tammy also would have looked askance at the narcissistic mess that Stevie had become even by that time.

[HomerMcvie]

I am not sure that someone like Dolly would wish to be around someone with the current Stevie's self absorbtion and bloated sense of importance. The country singers of Dolly's generation often came from childhoods of abject poverty. Stevie complained about having to make hamburger helper during the few months that her wealthy parents cut her off before she joined FM. I know that Stevie was in Betty Ford at the same time as the late Tammy Wynette. Tammy in spite of all her troubles remained a down to earth and kind lady. I don't believe that they interacted and Tammy also would have looked askance at the narcissistic mess that Stevie had become even by that time.

I'm a huge country music guy, and I can tell you that fans of their generation simply wouldn't tolerate uppity self absorbed stars. It's different now(I did monitors for Miranda Lambert, and she had her handlers surrounding her, even keeping the sound people(me) from speaking to them).

[Macfan4life]

Is Stevie going to do 9 to 5?




I would love to hear her botch the lyrics to it.

:lol:

[bwboy]

I am not sure that someone like Dolly would wish to be around someone with the current Stevie's self absorbtion and bloated sense of importance. The country singers of Dolly's generation often came from childhoods of abject poverty. Stevie complained about having to make hamburger helper during the few months that her wealthy parents cut her off before she joined FM. I know that Stevie was in Betty Ford at the same time as the late Tammy Wynette. Tammy in spite of all her troubles remained a down to earth and kind lady. I don't believe that they interacted and Tammy also would have looked askance at the narcissistic mess that Stevie had become even by that time.

Well you must be wrong because Dolly just said she recorded a song with Stevie. So she must not mind being around someone like Stevie. And I’m sure Dolly has plenty of experience being around narcissistic people, anyway.

[jmn3]

Is Stevie going to do 9 to 5?




I would love to hear her botch the lyrics to it.

:lol:

She’d be rambling on how she could never work between 9-5 since as a rockstar she stays up until 5am.

[krrrby]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/326531912_3482486558662437_6005126372288184296_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=TY8f6fRt4fMAX9i-FIY&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AfB3tEVNvhG9yJ59z8pLxlNWV3zletPSmjJkx3KVv8My0A&oe=63CE7140

From Stevie on Facebook: (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=715902059892368&set=a.273406704141908)

"Happy Birthday to my new friend, Dolly Parton! Had so much fun singing with you!"

[BombaySapphire3]

Well you must be wrong because Dolly just said she recorded a song with Stevie..

Seems like Lindsey recorded quite a few songs with her as well if memory serves me right.:laugh:

[Steviegirl]

I know this sounds really mean, but I've thought it the last several times I've seen Stevie--her hair looks like an unkempt rat's nest. It's just not working.

[SteveMacD]

I know this sounds really mean, but I've thought it the last several times I've seen Stevie--her hair looks like an unkempt rat's nest. It's just not working.

Waddy has better hair. :laugh:

[BombaySapphire3]

I know this sounds really mean, but I've thought it the last several times I've seen Stevie--her hair looks like an unkempt rat's nest. It's just not working.

The truth will set you free.Retirement time.

[jmn3]

Waddy has better hair. :laugh:

Lol this is a statement that has never been made, ever before, in the history of the world! But also, straight facts!

[UnwindedDreams]

Does Stevie have running tights on?

[sarafield]

Waddy has better hair. :laugh:

Amazing comment 🪦

But also, Dolly looks like she’s been unplugged from the matrix. They both need to take a look at their heads.

[elle]

Amazing comment 🪦

But also, Dolly looks like she’s been unplugged from the matrix. They both need to take a look at their heads.

Dolly wears wigs, quite famously. https://www.countrythangdaily.com/dolly-parton-without-wig/

[HomerMcvie]

She’d be rambling on how she could never work between 9-5 since as a rockstar she stays up until 5am.

Silly, it's 9pm-5am.

[sarafield]

Dolly wears wigs, quite famously. https://www.countrythangdaily.com/dolly-parton-without-wig/

Yes of course she does …. And?:confused:

[blinker12]

Cool! And I liked that of all the guest artists she names (Paul McCartney, Steve Perry, Pink, Brandi Carlisle) around that 2:00 mark, Stevie is the one who gets applause!

[Macfan4life]

Stevie's version:

Rumble out of that bed and head to the kitchen
Pouring myself a glass of inspiration or something French.....champagne
Stretching and trying to come alive
Jump in the bath and my heart starts pumping
People like me singing it to ya

Singing it to ya
What a way to make a living
barely getting by
all taking and sometimes giving
Somtimes you get used
and you dont get credit
its enough to drive you wild...wild baby
Singing it to ya
for service and devotion
what about a promotion
moving forward but Mick does not seem to let me
I swear sometimes that man is out to get me
the sky never expects it working 9 to 5

I have know this much longer than I've known you
I know what it sounds like working 9 to 5
I know what it feels like working 9 to 5
Say hey hey now


This.........is........serious........
Would you like to say something to the audience?

[elle]

Yes of course she does …. And?:confused:

no and. just sharing info in case some people are unaware :nod::xoxo:

[BigAl84]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall for this session. Dolly seems like the type that she's going to do 15 takes until she gets the vocal just right...Stevie these days is not at all about that life.

She still loves to tell the stories about Don Henley and Kenny Loggins being task masters in the studio...

[gjack5404]

If only someone could zoom in and see if some lyrics are on the papers on the board! I tried but don't have any good tools.

[bwboy]

She still loves to tell the stories about Don Henley and Kenny Loggins being task masters in the studio...

And I bet Dolly ate those stories up, too! I highly doubt that Dolly had heard any of those stories before. Unlike us, who read and follow every word any of them say, Dolly hasn’t, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she got a kick out of hearing them. And likewise, I expect Dolly shared some of her stories of recording with different artists as well. Dolly aphas worked with some incredible folks in the past, and I would love to hear stories about Porter Waggoner, Kenny Rogers, Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris, etc. Stevie could definitely learn a thing or two from Dolly.

[BombaySapphire3]

Dolly has stated that she wanted to use a cattle prod to get Linda Ronstadt to work during the recording of the second Trio album. I hoped that she saved that prod for Stevie because compared to her Linda was a pro and a workaholic.:rolleyes:

[UnwindedDreams]

If only someone could zoom in and see if some lyrics are on the papers on the board! I tried but don't have any good tools.

"I had a fragile dream in a great house in The Hamptons. I'd been there before, singing songs and doing benefits"

[BombaySapphire3]

"I had a fragile dream in a great house in The Hamptons. I'd been there before, singing songs and doing benefits"

FFS let's pray that the writing was left to Dolly.

[UnwindedDreams]

FFS let's pray that the writing was left to Dolly.

I prayed "Please God show him the way. Please God show her the way. Please God"

[HomerMcvie]

I prayed "Please God show him the way. Please God show her the way. Please God"

Is that god related to the commercial gods, to whom she also preys? :wavey:

[bwboy]

I just read that Mick Fleetwood Will also be playing on a song with Dolly Parton. Interestingly enough, out of all the musicians they listed, such as Cher, Stevie, Pat Benatar, Brandi Carlisle, Pink, Paul McCartney, etc, Mick is the only non-singing musician listed. Well, Ringo Starr, too.

Apparently the name Fleetwood still carries some weight in the music biz! The obvious assumption is Mick will be playing on the song that Stevie and Dolly are working on, but we’ll see.

Songs listed included Stairway to Heaven, Purple Rain, Freebird, and Open Arms.

[BombaySapphire3]

So it is all remakes. Dolly already did Stairway to Heaven on one of her excellent Bluegrass albums. I wonder if Stevie will be croaking along to Purple Rain since she claims that Prince offered it to her first.

[bwboy]

So it is all remakes. Dolly already did Stairway to Heaven on one of her excellent Bluegrass albums. I wonder if Stevie will be croaking along to Purple Rain since she claims that Prince offered it to her first.

There will be some original songs on the album as well- Dolly sang a new rock song at her RRHOF induction.

[sarafield]

no and. just sharing info in case some people are unaware :nod::xoxo:

Gotcha. I figured the clips or whatever those are on the back of Dolly’s head gave it away at last. :laugh::laugh:

My comment was not about wigs or extensions but more about being aware of how the whole head looks. Whoever posted a photo of these two ladies from behind in the studio… did them dirty.

I remember when I was little and I learned that Dolly had fake boobs (she also famously said nearly everything on her was fake) and I was shocked — shocked.

[sarafield]

Stevie's version:

Rumble out of that bed and head to the kitchen
Pouring myself a glass of inspiration or something French.....champagne
Stretching and trying to come alive
Jump in the bath and my heart starts pumping
People like me singing it to ya



Almost as good as Stevie’s other version of a Dolly song: “And heeeee will always love herrrrr”

[sarafield]

no and. just sharing info in case some people are unaware :nod::xoxo:

Gotcha. I figured the clips or whatever those are on the back of Dolly’s head gave it away at last. :laugh::laugh:

My comment was not about wigs or extensions but more about being aware of how the whole head looks. Whoever posted a photo of these two ladies from behind in the studio… did them dirty.

I remember when I was little and I learned that Dolly had fake boobs (she also famously said nearly everything on her was fake) and I was shocked— shocked.

[Jondalar]

I love Dolly Parton. She is part of the American fabric. Can anyone imagine a United States without Dolly? I can't.

[vivfox]

Mick is the only non-singing musician listed. Well, Ringo Starr, too.

Ringo Starr sings.

[Karlie]

Gotcha. I figured the clips or whatever those are on the back of Dolly’s head gave it away at last. :laugh::laugh:

My comment was not about wigs or extensions but more about being aware of how the whole head looks. Whoever posted a photo of these two ladies from behind in the studio… did them dirty.


Since this is the photo that was posted, imagine what they looked like from the front! And I don't blame them - I wouldn't want to get all dolled up and camera ready just for a long day in the studio either!

Pretty much every celebrity with long hair has extensions. Except Stevie, apparently, as I doubt they make extensions with that texture. If that's all her real hair, that's a sign of good health (getting all those vitamins) especially for a woman of her age.

[David]

I hope Stevie and Dolly sing SOUL MAN by Sam and Dave, LOTTA LOVE by Neil Young, CALIFORNIA DREAMING by John Phillips, GAMES WITHOUT FRONTIERS by Peter Gabriel, GET IT WHILE YOU CAN by Howard Tate, OH NO NOT MY BABY by Maxine Brown, UMBRA by Karnivool, or SENSUAL SEDUCTION by Snoop Dogg. Any of these would be dreamy.

[BombaySapphire3]

Pretty much every celebrity with long hair has extensions. Except Stevie, apparently, as I doubt they make extensions with that texture. If that's all her real hair, that's a sign of good health (getting all those vitamins) especially for a woman of her age. I have long predicted that she will be the last one standing of the five.:laugh:

[soul_drifter333]

Ringo Starr sings.

Stevie even did a song with him. Some Stevie fanatics y'all are. :laugh::laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6tl9shAFz4

[gjack5404]

I read yesterday that the song they worked on was called "Bittersweet", an original from Dolly.

[BombaySapphire3]

I read yesterday that the song they worked on was called "Bittersweet", an original from Dolly.

Let's try and guess which one of them is bitter and which one is sweet.:rolleyes:

[David]

I read yesterday that the song they worked on was called "Bittersweet", an original from Dolly.

I predict it will be a ballad, even though this is a rock and roll album. On the other hand, it may be a rock and roll song, since this is a rock and roll album. It may be the lead single, too, unless they use one of the other songs as a lead single.

[Bandon]

The collaboration is Stevie's 80's song "What has Rock'n Roll Ever Done for You?" :wavey:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/01/28/dolly-partons-rock-album-includes-elton-john-mccartney-stevie-nicks/11112723002/

[SteveMacD]

Hoo boy. :shocked:

[UnwindedDreams]

The collaboration is Stevie's 80's song "What has Rock'n Roll Ever Done for You?" :wavey:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/01/28/dolly-partons-rock-album-includes-elton-john-mccartney-stevie-nicks/11112723002/
Now that is awesome. Maybe that Rock A Little re-release is actually coming.
Even though this was a demo, this is like getting a new Stevie song!

[Jondalar]

The collaboration is Stevie's 80's song "What has Rock'n Roll Ever Done for You?" :wavey:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/01/28/dolly-partons-rock-album-includes-elton-john-mccartney-stevie-nicks/11112723002/

It's a terrible song. Good lord!!!!!!!! :( :(

[tothegypsy]

It's never been a favorite demo of mine...but I still think Stevie and Dolly could do something fun with it.

[mitzo]

It's never been a favorite demo of mine...but I still think Stevie and Dolly could do something fun with it.

I do not like the song at all but let's see what they do with it. Sigh...

[UnwindedDreams]

I read yesterday that the song they worked on was called "Bittersweet", an original from Dolly.
Dolly said she and Stevie worked on Bittersweet?

[vermicious knid]

I swear I was just thinking last week that it really ought to be "What Has Rock and Rock Ever Done For You", but because I never came here to post that, no one can believe me now. Now I can't even get credit for being correct and intuitive!

Part of it was thinking that it would be more special within Dolly's oeuvre if it weren't a country song.

As for the song itself, the lyrics are of course simple and dumb, but the music is really catchy. A song like that could be a lot of fun as a silly duet. I approve our decision.

[vermicious knid]

Here is the relevant part of the article:

What have been the most enjoyable moments of recording the album?

I had fun singing with Stevie (Nicks). It’s a song she wrote called “What Has Rock ‘n Roll Ever Done for Me,” a cute little song.

[BombaySapphire3]

Ugh! I was interested in Dolly's rock album but not so much now. Christine's long ago remark was correct that Stevie is (was) a prolific songwriter but a lot of them are rubbish. This song belongs on that heap.

[On Ice]

Hold on.... remember how great Mabel Normand turned out on 24 K? Who could've imagined it as the highlight of the album? I'm going to trust Dolly that if she says it was fun, we're in for a treat.:xoxo:

[bombaysaffires]

Hold on.... remember how great Mabel Normand turned out on 24 K? Who could've imagined it as the highlight of the album? I'm going to trust Dolly that if she says it was fun, we're in for a treat.:xoxo:

Mabel Normand is an incoherent word salad with a fairly decent arrangement wherein the production adds in a series of lifts to an otherwise flat dirge. Don't get me wrong, I actually don't mind it as far as it goes, but.... a classic it ain't, and definitely not one she should hang her hat on as a writer.

[vivfox]

Here is the relevant part of the article:

What have been the most enjoyable moments of recording the album?

I had fun singing with Stevie (Nicks). It’s a song she wrote called “What Has Rock ‘n Roll Ever Done for Me,” a cute little song.


Ugh! I was interested in Dolly's rock album but not so much now. Christine's long ago remark was correct that Stevie is (was) a prolific songwriter but a lot of them are rubbish. This song belongs on that heap.

Look at it this way, it can only get better. We're getting the 2023 version with the help of a superstar(Dolly) and a new producer. It'll probably be really good. It's not gonna be like 1982's Smile At You(the angry version) which was perfect and then ruined by the 2001 SYW version.

[BigAl84]

Look at it this way, it can only get better. We're getting the 2023 version with the help of a superstar(Dolly) and a new producer. It'll probably be really good. It's not gonna be like 1982's Smile At You(the angry version) which was perfect and then ruined by the 2001 SYW version.

I'm not so sure...Dolly's slick production team + Stevie's 80's Reject = cheeze

[BigAl84]

Sounds like somebody sent Lori back to the Uhaul unit for more demo tapes :]

[HomerMcvie]

Sounds like somebody sent Lori back to the Uhaul unit for more demo tapes :]

This literally made me lol.

[BigAl84]

Stevie: what's wrong with my vocal! the tape is 30 years old and must not be playing correctly anymore

Lori: It was 1985...

Stevie: What's your point?

Lori: It's the nose candy, dear.

[GypsySorcerer]

That demo has never been a favorite. Yikes.

Then again, at least it wasn't "One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star." "Undercover music lover!!!!"

[Hawkeye]

I can’t believe in my 25 plus years of fandom I’ve never listened to that demo.

Now that I have, really haven’t been missing much. The music at the beginning reminds me exactly of something exquisite. But this song is nowhere near as good as something exquisite at least in demo form.

That being said, I feel this was the perfect song choice. I’m really excited to hear how this turns out. I feel like with drastically different production and For what it’s worth/show them the way level vocals and not Stolen Car Vocals this could be amazing.

It also seems like a perfect fit for this particular guest appearance. I feel like they will trade off the lines of rock n roll roll for you you/me/us. And I imagine Stevie will sing the lines, it’s been good to me.

I’m also thrilled stevie is one of the few guests doing an original instead of a cover.

[vermicious knid]

^^^^^Yes, that is exactly right.

It's a song that I have barely listened to because there's really no need, and yet somehow its the absolute perfect choice for this duet. The song finally found its reason for existing.

And I bet you right about them trading off saying "me" vs. "you".

I'm excited to hear it!

[Macfan4life]

The collaboration is Stevie's 80's song "What has Rock'n Roll Ever Done for You?" :wavey:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/01/28/dolly-partons-rock-album-includes-elton-john-mccartney-stevie-nicks/11112723002/
I am maybe in the minority but I always liked the demo but maybe for the wrong reasons. Its so freaking 80s but not with the 80s synths or anything like that. Its the lyrics and how Stevie sings the song. It's probably Stevie's most arrogant song. She wrote and sung it at her peak mid 80s coke addiction. That cheezy cat call whistle in the beginning is so bad its good if you know what I mean. I would have loved to have seen Lindsey's face when it was submitted as a song on Tango. Its arrogant, self absorbing, almost bragging about wealth and fame. Something French........CHAMPAGNE !!!!!!!
You cant get a song that sums up Stevie's life in the mid 80s more than this song. The real line should have been .......Something Colombian........COCAINE!
She must have written the song after 5 lines and performed it on the demo after 5 lines. The song starts with some cat calling whistle at her. Then she goes on to brag how rock has brought her so much material wealth. There is nothing that screams 80s more than that. Just the way that she sings the word "evverrything" tells it all!
I can visualize a video for the song on the set of Dynasty.

[bombaysaffires]

Lyrically the song is totally incoherent.

She may have had a clear idea in her head of what she wanted to say, but it didn't make it to the song.

Early songwriter Stevie, who carefully crafted her words (Dreams is impeccable, Landslide is excellent, Silver Springs, or her longer more "epic poem" songs like Storms, The Highwayman, Beauty and the Beast, and even some later stuff like Doing the Best That I Can) is nowhere to be found on this song. It's kinda sorta catchy (I'm going by the demo, haven't heard this new version) musically but...... it's from that era when she started demo'ing interesting IDEAS for songs but then never actually fleshing them out properly, thinking her rough ideas were sufficient. She came to believe any turd she dropped was classic without any need for polishing. I feel bad for Dolly who has always put work into crafting her songs for having to sing this stinker. Stevie is amazing for her lack of any ability to be embarrassed.

[BombaySapphire3]

I feel bad for Dolly who has always put work into crafting her songs for having to sing this stinker. Stevie is amazing for her lack of any ability to be embarrassed.

Yeah .. I was telling an old friend of mine, another huge fan of Stevie's back in the day that once upon a time Stevie might have been ashamed to show up at Dolly's door with such a dud. There is absolutely no shame in her game now though ..or humility.

[sarafield]

Could you tell me just a little more
About your profession?

I’d never read these lyrics before. Oh Stevie, save it for LinkedIn.

[Macfan4life]

Could you tell me just a little more
About your profession?

I’d never read these lyrics before. Oh Stevie, save it for LinkedIn.
Answer the question!

[BigAl84]

Lyrically the song is totally incoherent.

She may have had a clear idea in her head of what she wanted to say, but it didn't make it to the song.

Early songwriter Stevie, who carefully crafted her words (Dreams is impeccable, Landslide is excellent, Silver Springs, or her longer more "epic poem" songs like Storms, The Highwayman, Beauty and the Beast, and even some later stuff like Doing the Best That I Can) is nowhere to be found on this song. It's kinda sorta catchy (I'm going by the demo, haven't heard this new version) musically but...... it's from that era when she started demo'ing interesting IDEAS for songs but then never actually fleshing them out properly, thinking her rough ideas were sufficient. She came to believe any turd she dropped was classic without any need for polishing. I feel bad for Dolly who has always put work into crafting her songs for having to sing this stinker. Stevie is amazing for her lack of any ability to be embarrassed.

Ya gotta love her, it's either great or incoherent. No middle ground...well maybe that's Silver Girl :laugh:

I'm sure there will be very little re-writing and it will be pretty close to the demo. She's doubled down on her stance that her demos are as good as it gets. Which is...delusional.

It's insane to think she witnessed Lindsey and the band turn a lot of her songs into signature classics, yet she's ok with Waddy's hacky version of Gypsy and convinced that her demos are better than anything a seasoned professional could bring to the table. The session players in Nashville that did 24k Gold must have been so bored. They literally recreated demo tracks that were 30 years old that were nothing to write home about it in the first place. Easy paycheck for them, but couldn't have been a particularly fun or rewarding session to be part of.