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Street_Dreamer

12-30-2022, 06:18 PM

Moz

12-30-2022, 07:30 PM

Thanks for sharing. Glad to hear he's doing better after the cancellations in the autumn.

HomerMcvie

12-30-2022, 11:29 PM

And he said that he was the sick one during the tour.

UnwindedDreams

12-31-2022, 12:50 AM

I hope the album comes out in the first half of the year. I think he mentioned in Berlin that he started this album before the Europe Tour started.

Macfan4life

12-31-2022, 06:20 AM

And he said that he was the sick one during the tour.
Yes, he finally acknowledged that. There were all sorts of rumors flying around youtube and the internet about his health. 2022 was such a brutal year for him. He lost 2 close friendships/bandmembers. His tour was delayed but eventually resumed only for everyone to catch Covid. He goes back on the road and his health forces cancellations.
I can only imagine the album that's inside him after surviving the year from hell. Not many artists keep going with a tour when a member of a band passes away during the tour. No matter the obstacles thrown his way, he marched on surviving his own health scare only to be confronted with the death of Chris.

.......it's always darkest before the dawn

sue

12-31-2022, 07:17 AM

A new Album will be the best news.
And personal experience always makes for good writing.

I just love the phrases he uses,
“This year’s polarity of positives and negatives …etc …”

sleepless child

12-31-2022, 01:37 PM

I wasn't sure if it was his health that was the reason for cancelling, but I see now that it was. Poor guy, what a horrible last few years. I am so glad he is making a new album. I am sure it will very interesting. He has alot to speak about. His marriage, Fleetwood Mac, Stevie and the death of Brett and Chris, plus his own health issues he has faced these last few years. I am glad to see him still percevering. I know we won't see any Fleetwood Mac activity in 2023, with his working on the new album and Stevie doing her stadium tour, but I had hoped for a concert for Christine. Maybe when Lindsey goes out on the road again, he will have Mick as his drummer. I feel John has retired and probably won't perform anymore. It is just so bittersweet.

elle

01-01-2023, 02:18 AM

I don't know how to post the links to show up but he mentions working on a new album in the third tweet.

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/status/1608961809436012545

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/status/1608961814146220035

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/status/1608961815467429890

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elle

01-01-2023, 03:07 AM

Yes, he finally acknowledged that. There were all sorts of rumors flying around youtube and the internet about his health. 2022 was such a brutal year for him. He lost 2 close friendships/bandmembers. His tour was delayed but eventually resumed only for everyone to catch Covid. He goes back on the road and his health forces cancellations.
I can only imagine the album that's inside him after surviving the year from hell. Not many artists keep going with a tour when a member of a band passes away during the tour. No matter the obstacles thrown his way, he marched on surviving his own health scare only to be confronted with the death of Chris.

.......it's always darkest before the dawn

yes, people keep making up and posting whatever first comes to their mind, without having any actual clue. posters on here included. i was just reading that thread on Destiny Rules in Rumours forum and it's unbelievable the fables people come up with and try to push as gospel truth :laugh::shrug:

David

01-02-2023, 06:43 PM

yes, people keep making up and posting whatever first comes to their mind, without having any actual clue. posters on here included. i was just reading that thread on Destiny Rules in Rumours forum and it's unbelievable the fables people come up with and try to push as gospel truth :laugh::shrug:

Too many RUMOURS with Fleetwood Mac. Get it? Haha. See what I did there? Happy New Year, ledgers.

HomerMcvie

01-02-2023, 07:38 PM

Too many RUMOURS with Fleetwood Mac. Get it? Haha. See what I did there? Happy New Year, ledgers.

You're quite the prankster.

SteveMacD

01-02-2023, 07:48 PM

yes, people keep making up and posting whatever first comes to their mind, without having any actual clue.

Like how getting fired from a band leads to heart attacks?

aleuzzi

01-03-2023, 01:02 AM

If a new album comes, I’ll buy it. I’ll always have room for Lindsey’s solo stuff. But damn, I was really praying for BuckVie 2. I’m just so sad...

BigAl84

01-03-2023, 10:29 AM

I too was holding out for a BuckVie II. It's so sad thinking about her leaving the band, coming back, and then departing for what will be forever.

SteveMacD

01-03-2023, 05:04 PM

I too was holding out for a BuckVie II. It's so sad thinking about her leaving the band, coming back, and then departing for what will be forever.

On the one hand, it’s a little disappointing that LBCM was the only new album when the possibilities seemed endless. A lot of what could have beens. Another Rumours band album, another LBCM album, an album with Finn and Campbell, and even a blues album with Mick, John, Rick, and Mike.

However, when I think back to when ITM was somewhat of a miracle, an album and three tours over the past eight years was a blessing. The last eleven years were quite the ride and while we all wish there had been more, her return, at least for me, gave a proper sense closure for Fleetwood Mac.

UnwindedDreams

01-03-2023, 07:03 PM

On the one hand, it’s a little disappointing that LBCM was the only new album when the possibilities seemed endless. A lot of what could have beens. Another Rumours band album, another LBCM album, an album with Finn and Campbell, and even a blues album with Mick, John, Rick, and Mike.

However, when I think back to when ITM was somewhat of a miracle, an album and three tours over the past eight years was a blessing. The last eleven years were quite the ride and while we all wish there had been more, her return, at least for me, gave a proper sense closure for Fleetwood Mac.
I raise a glass to this.

But, I see the last tour as a stain on the band's legacy. Without Lindsey, Rick, and Billy on the tour, I feel Jeremy Spencer should have been a special guest. The Eagles did it right with their 40th Anniversary Tour by bringing Bernie Leadon as a special guest and The Stones did it for their 50th with Mick Taylor.

I like Mike and Neil. They were fine performers at my shows. But they had no hand in the creation of the Fleetwood Mac music they were playing. I wish Chris' last tour featured an all FM setlist.

On With The Show is how I'll remember the end of Fleetwood Mac.

elle

01-03-2023, 09:29 PM

Too many RUMOURS with Fleetwood Mac. Get it? Haha. See what I did there? Happy New Year, ledgers.
cute :)

I was really praying for BuckVie 2. I’m just so sad...
I too was holding out for a BuckVie II. It's so sad thinking about her leaving the band, coming back, and then departing for what will be forever.
same, this. was really hoping BuckVie will get together one more time. they had such big plans in 2018.

but i'm so grateful that they did stand up firmly and pushed out that album. imagine Chris coming back with all her creative juices flowing, only to be completely stopped in her tracks and not getting that last studio album out (because "what's the point?"). and i get it why she ultimately went along with fakewood tour, even though she knew about all the backlash. only 6 months before her passing, she said in her Songbird-promoting interview that what she hopes for is to live some more. somehow she knew, she had a sense.

SteveMacD

01-03-2023, 11:17 PM

I feel Jeremy Spencer should have been a special guest.

Mick had to beg Jeremy to do the Peter Green tribute and Jeremy wouldn’t let Mick use his name to promote the show.

HomerMcvie

01-04-2023, 03:03 AM

Mick had to beg Jeremy to do the Peter Green tribute and Jeremy wouldn’t let Mick use his name to promote the show.

Too afraid of getting arrested again?

BigAl84

01-04-2023, 11:07 AM

The last eleven years were quite the ride and while we all wish there had been more, her return, at least for me, gave a proper sense closure for Fleetwood Mac.

I felt the same way until somebody ruined it for everyone.

BigAl84

01-04-2023, 11:12 AM

SteveMacD

01-04-2023, 12:33 PM

Clips from the 2013 tour are still shared on social media frequently to this day. Nearly 10 years later.

The same thing isn't happening for the 2018 tour. The Free Falling cover has become as expected as Stand Back at this point. Nobody will give a sh*t about that tour in 2028. It will be noted by being Christine's last tour and Lindsey's absence.

As a fan of Christine’s blues playing, the 2018 tour brought back something that had been missing since the BTM tour. The way she and Mike traded solos on “Black Magic Woman” and “Tell Me All the Things You Do” was like going back to when Danny and Bob were in the band. It’s telling that her grand return to the stage was “Get Like You Used To Be” with Mick’s blues band and that her final appearance ever was singing “Stop Messin’ Round” at the Peter Green tribute. For whatever reason, that dimension of Christine’s playing always got shelved when Lindsey was in the band, but it was something that was meaningful to Christine. So, for me, 2018 filled in the one missing element of Christine’s return.

cbBen

01-04-2023, 03:15 PM

Clips from the 2013 tour are still shared on social media frequently to this day. Nearly 10 years later.

There is a 2013 segment on FM on Australian television (before Christine's return) that seems to have disappeared from YouTube. Does anyone have it or can anyone find it? Thanks.

David

01-04-2023, 07:18 PM

As a fan of Christine’s blues playing, the 2018 tour brought back something that had been missing since the BTM tour. The way she and Mike traded solos on “Black Magic Woman” and “Tell Me All the Things You Do” was like going back to when Danny and Bob were in the band.It wasn’t that great. She fiddled a bit with some two-finger tremolo and just kept repeating it. That went on for thirty seconds? I think you got gushy because it was the first time in a long time she had done any blues playing. But it was just a shadow of what she used to do in the old days. (It truly was very minimal — nice to hear it at all, I guess, but let’s not pretend it was a barn burner.)

It’s telling that her grand return to the stage was “Get Like You Used To Be” with Mick’s blues band and that her final appearance ever was singing “Stop Messin’ Round” at the Peter Green tribute. I thought for sure she would add “Get Like” to the Mac set list somewhere along the line. Shame it wasn’t. Her “Stop Messin’ ” at the Green concert, despite being a little feeble, was more fun for me than anything she had done in that vein since her piano work on the same song and “Tear It Up” in 1990. She obviously felt really hip to be singing that one with those supporting players. Put a big grin on my face.

For whatever reason, that dimension of Christine’s playing always got shelved when Lindsey was in the band, but it was something that was meaningful to Christine.Silly of you to lay that on Lindsey. Chris was still incorporating blues piano in 1975 and 1976 concerts (“Get Like,” the pianet outro on “Spare Me a Little,” “Jumping at Shadows,” B3 on “Oh Well” and “Manalishi,” “Don’t Stop” turn-around blues piano, and even blues-scale fills on “Hypnotized.” And she always played blues B3 on “Oh Well” until Lindsey quit. It was the entire band of that configuration that veered away from doing any blues numbers with prominent keyboard, and it took another configuration in 1987 to bring some of that back, probably thanks to Mick and Rick. The best, fastest blues fills improv she used to do — “World Turning” on both B3 and CP30 — wasn’t equaled again until 1990 with “Stop Messin’.”

That evolution away from doing a little ham on blues piano in the sets wasn’t solely a Lindsey Buckingham thing. Lindsey gets blamed for a lot of weirdness. Why blame him any more than Stevie or Mick in 1977/1978/1979/1980. In fact, the only semi-blues they were still doing in those years (as an entire song) was “Oh Well” and that was Lindsey’s decision, as he told Jim Ladd in 1981. Mick, Chris, and John only wanted to play any blues, apparently, when they were waiting for Ray Lindsey to restring and played a little “Jumping at Shadows” in the down time.

SteveMacD

01-04-2023, 07:38 PM

Silly of you to lay that on Lindsey.
Ah, but I didn’t, hence the “for whatever reason” preface. She also didn’t play any blues songs on her 1984 solo tour. However, once the Rumours lineup was established, any actual blues went away until the 1987 tour.

UnwindedDreams

01-04-2023, 08:07 PM

Ah, but I didn’t, hence the “for whatever reason” preface. She also didn’t play any blues songs on her 1984 solo tour. However, once the Rumours lineup was established, any actual blues went away until the 1987 tour.
The Five didn't play Hypnotized, Station Man, Tell Me All The Things You Do, or Stop Messin'? Or are those not blues? I really don't know.

SteveMacD

01-04-2023, 09:52 PM

The Five didn't play Hypnotized, Station Man, Tell Me All The Things You Do, or Stop Messin'? Or are those not blues? I really don't know.

Hypnotized, TMATTYD, and Station Man aren’t remotely blues songs and they never played “Stop Messin’ Round.” The only blues songs that lineup played were “Get Like You Used to Be” and “Jumpin’ At Shadows” VERY early on. However, once GLYUTB was dropped for SYLM, that lineup didn’t play any proper blues songs again.

Macfan4life

01-05-2023, 07:15 AM

Hypnotized, TMATTYD, and Station Man aren’t remotely blues songs and they never played “Stop Messin’ Round.” The only blues songs that lineup played were “Get Like You Used to Be” and “Jumpin’ At Shadows” VERY early on. However, once GLYUTB was dropped for SYLM, that lineup didn’t play any proper blues songs again.
Station Man is definitely a blues song. Its not classic cookie cutter blues but has so many bluesy features that its definitely in that camp. Its so bluesy. Even the singing and lyrics are classic, vintage blues.

UnwindedDreams

01-05-2023, 07:26 AM

Station Man is definitely a blues song. Its not classic cookie cutter blues but has so many bluesy features that its definitely in that camp.
According to setlist.fm, they played Stop Messin Round in 1977 but that site also has Stevie performing at a Michigan Republican Concert in 2008:lol:

BigAl84

01-05-2023, 09:06 AM

That evolution away from doing a little ham on blues piano in the sets wasn’t solely a Lindsey Buckingham thing. Lindsey gets blamed for a lot of weirdness. Why blame him any more than Stevie or Mick in 1977/1978/1979/1980. In fact, the only semi-blues they were still doing in those years (as an entire song) was “Oh Well” and that was Lindsey’s decision, as he told Jim Ladd in 1981. Mick, Chris, and John only wanted to play any blues, apparently, when they were waiting for Ray Lindsey to restring and played a little “Jumping at Shadows” in the down time.

Somehow after the events of 2018 people started pushing a new narrative that Lindsey Buckingham single-handedly dictated Fleetwood Mac setlists for the past 20 years or that he was the sole decision maker on using any kind of backing tracks dating back to 1997, which we have no documentation of how that decision was made. People just assumed because he uses them in his solo act that he also insisted on using them with Fleetwood Mac, without any proof.

I'm sure Lindsey was also responsible for axing Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden in '03.......

BigAl84

01-05-2023, 09:18 AM

I have a very unpopular opinion that the ONLY reason the band ever dipped back into the blues material in '87 and '18 was due to large gaps of material they couldn't do well without Lindsey. The blues material was very convenient material they could fall back on. It worked well with other guitarists/vocalists that translated well on stage with a new lineup. It had nothing to do with any sort of back to our roots mentality etc. If that material was that important to them, they would of kept more of it in the setlist in 2018.

I LOVE their blues material, but they exploit it to fill out gaps in their setlists when key members are not present. It makes for a nice opportunity to showcase their new guitarist(s) without the pressure of covering Buckingham parts.

I also don't believe for a nanosecond that when Stevie wanted to discuss revamping the setlist with Mick in Italy, she was thinking of the pre-75 material. She agrees to a certain amount of it because it gives her a break off stage.

SteveMacD

01-05-2023, 09:57 AM

Station Man is definitely a blues song. Its not classic cookie cutter blues but has so many bluesy features that its definitely in that camp. Its so bluesy. Even the singing and lyrics are classic, vintage blues.

“Station Man” is almost a prog rock song, not at all blues. The only thing remotely bluesy about “Station Man” is it mentions trains. By that logic, “That’s Alright” is a blues song.

Definitely NOT something they’d ever play on B.B. King’s Bluesville or at a blues festival.

Macfan4life

01-05-2023, 10:21 AM

“Station Man” is almost a prog rock song, not at all blues. The only thing remotely bluesy about “Station Man” is it mentions trains. By that logic, “That’s Alright” is a blues song.

Definitely NOT something they’d ever play on B.B. King’s Bluesville or at a blues festival.
That's alright is pretty much pure country.

Just the way the opening signing begins Staaaaaaaation Maaaaan. The verses are pure blues. The train has nothing to do with it.
Strange you cant hear the bluesy nature of the song. It fits in the mold of all their songs in that era. The song does snap out of the zone a bit but could never scratch it off the blues list.

bwboy

01-05-2023, 10:37 AM

I have a very unpopular opinion that the ONLY reason the band ever dipped back into the blues material in '87 and '18 was due to large gaps of material they couldn't do well without Lindsey. The blues material was very convenient material they could fall back on. It worked well with other guitarists/vocalists that translated well on stage with a new lineup. It had nothing to do with any sort of back to our roots mentality etc. If that material was that important to them, they would of kept more of it in the setlist in 2018.

I LOVE their blues material, but they exploit it to fill out gaps in their setlists when key members are not present. It makes for a nice opportunity to showcase their new guitarist(s) without the pressure of covering Buckingham parts.

I think you make a compelling point here, one I’d never really thought of before. I do think though that while a big part of playing the pre-Buck/Nicks material was to, like you said, help fill gaps in their concerts, Christine, Mick, and John really enjoyed bringing that material back and performing it with Mike and Neil. It showed on the last tour how much they loved playing those early songs.

SteveMacD

01-05-2023, 11:00 AM

I think you make a compelling point here, one I’d never really thought of before. I do think though that while a big part of playing the pre-Buck/Nicks material was to, like you said, help fill gaps in their concerts, Christine, Mick, and John really enjoyed bringing that material back and performing it with Mike and Neil. It showed on the last tour how much they loved playing those early songs.

It was also true with Rick Vito, himself an ex-Bluesbreaker and a Peter Green fan.

elle

01-05-2023, 11:30 AM

BigAl84

01-05-2023, 11:53 AM

It's similar to how they started mentioning the revolving door of lineups to somehow spin Lindsey's departure as no big deal, business as usual, we've always been a blues band too.

It just seems like too much of a coincidence that the blues material comes back into play (in a larger way, not a one-off song in a setlist) in almost every instance that Lindsey is absent.

I think it would have been super cool had they carved out a 30-40 minute block of time in the 2018 set to do all pre-75 material, instead of sprinkling it throughout the set. I think the material would have been better presented in a jam session kind of way and probably more appealing to casual fans. That would have meant 30-40 minutes of Stevie being sidelined, which I'm sure wouldn't have gone over well with Stevie's camp and music critics who lean heavily on her presence when writing reviews.

Do we know whose idea it was for Stevie to sing Black Magic Woman?

Note: edited per SteveMacD because he apparently has nothing left to contribute beyond pedantic BS.

elle

01-05-2023, 12:22 PM

That would of meant 30-40 minutes of Stevie being sidelined, which I'm sure wouldn't of gone over well with Stevie's camp and music critics who lean heavily on her presence when writing reviews.

ha, yes it was very amusing to read cookie-cutter "reviews" of the fakewood tour. looked pretty obvious it was just a lazy, paid rehashing of the text served to them by band's marketing. this became even more obvious once the tour moved over to Europe, and over there critics were actually writing their own independent reviews. all of the sudden they stopped reading like a pre-written PR material, and became way less glowing and way more critical.

BigAl84

01-05-2023, 01:03 PM

ha, yes it was very amusing to read cookie-cutter "reviews" of the fakewood tour. looked pretty obvious it was just a lazy, paid rehashing of the text served to them by band's marketing. this became even more obvious once the tour moved over to Europe, and over there critics were actually writing their own independent reviews. all of the sudden they stopped reading like a pre-written PR material, and became way less glowing and way more critical.

Cookie cutter reviews and half-filled arenas that left promoters scrambling to "paper" the event aka distribute as many free tickets as they could or slash prices. The ticketmaster seating charts on that first leg were brutal. The reviews always made sure to say "nearly sold out" :lol:

And how many reviews called "Free Falling" a highlight of the show? That says everything right there.

SteveMacD

01-05-2023, 02:33 PM

I think it would of

I think the material would of

That would of

which I'm sure wouldn't of

Not to be that guy, but it’s would’ve, would have, or wouldn’t have.

BigAl84

01-05-2023, 03:10 PM

LOL you're a real gem. Thanks for the grammar tips.

jbrownsjr

01-06-2023, 10:46 AM

I look forward to a new Buck album. I really loved the last one.

If he tours, I hope he brings a female into his solo band.

SteveMacD

01-06-2023, 01:09 PM

I look forward to a new Buck album. I really loved the last one.

If he tours, I hope he brings a female into his solo band.

I still think he should do a duet album with Susanna Hoffs. I think they’d look and sound good together.

David

01-06-2023, 04:26 PM

I look forward to a new Buck album. I really loved the last one.

If he tours, I hope he brings a female into his solo band.

He and Chris probably recorded more than they used for their album. He ought to share the outtakes — at least those outtakes that Christine wouldn’t have minded seeing the light of day.

BLY

01-06-2023, 04:50 PM

He and Chris probably recorded more than they used for their album. He ought to share the outtakes — at least those outtakes that Christine wouldn’t have minded seeing the light of day.

Yes I’m hoping he will include and polish up any outtakes on his new album. It would be a great way to bring Christine up in a positive light when he does the press.

SteveMacD

01-06-2023, 05:12 PM

He and Chris probably recorded more than they used for their album. He ought to share the outtakes — at least those outtakes that Christine wouldn’t have minded seeing the light of day.

I wonder if she an Neil made any demos on the road. He posted a picture of her playing a keyboard in a hotel room after she passed.

elle

01-06-2023, 05:31 PM

I wonder if she an Neil made any demos on the road. He posted a picture of her playing a keyboard in a hotel room after she passed.

i was always wondering what would a combo of Chris/Linds/Neil/Mick produce, since that first time Mick befriended Neil on his blues band's AUS tour. might be interesting although from what i hear all Neil's recent stuff is incredibly bland and boring. but maybe combo would spark something.

we will unfortunately never know.

SteveMacD

01-06-2023, 09:00 PM

i was always wondering what would a combo of Chris/Linds/Neil/Mick produce, since that first time Mick befriended Neil on his blues band's AUS tour. might be interesting although from what i hear all Neil's recent stuff is incredibly bland and boring. but maybe combo would spark something.

I think the Fleetwood-McVie-McVie rhythm section and Mike Campbell on lead would have given Neil’s song a much needed boot in the ass.

elle

01-06-2023, 09:24 PM

I think the Fleetwood-McVie-McVie rhythm section and Mike Campbell on lead would have given Neil’s song a much needed boot in the ass.

to clarify, my interest was in Lindsey-Christine-Neil-Mick collab, not MC who was not in the picture at the time anyway, back in 2016 or so.

Karlie

01-07-2023, 12:34 AM

I look forward to a new Buck album. I really loved the last one.

If he tours, I hope he brings a female into his solo band.

It would be really cool if he brought Janet Robin back into his solo band.

cbBen

01-07-2023, 04:28 AM

I have a very unpopular opinion that the ONLY reason the band ever dipped back into the blues material in '87 and '18 was due to large gaps of material they couldn't do well without Lindsey.

FWIW, in one of the docs Vito says Mick asked him whether he wanted to do any of his original material in the show. Vito said no, but he would like to do some of the Peter Green stuff.

sue

01-07-2023, 05:09 AM

that all makes sense.

regarding blues, i am always astonished how Brits managed to basically steal it from the original US blues culture and make it a part of their own sound. of course they also popularized it at the time. but if one really cares about the blues, there are way better places to enjoy it (for way cheaper), and with way better guitar players that nobody even knows about, than overpriced FM cover tour.

ThatÂ’s a real hard questionÂ…but I think, itÂ’s a race thing.

In Britain, Rhythm and blues was imported in the late 50s early 60s was appreciated by a small number Â…which grew, and grew, through various bandsÂ…
Alexis Korner, Chris Barber, Cyril DaviesÂ…Lonnie Donegan, all responsible for introducing black music to the UK.
I donÂ’t know too much about it but as a young girl, 12/13 I used to listen to this music on the radioÂ…and it was just so good. And the young generation then just got into it.

Maybe Brits could relate to the words of the Blues, life was tough after WW2, rationing, austerity, real poverty and hardship.
Brits borrowed the Blues, to turn it into something easier on the earÂ…..and then sold it back Â…Big time..
IÂ’ve often wondered about Brit bands selling the Blues back to America..

cbBen

01-07-2023, 05:18 AM

They didn't simply "steal it." They repackaged it into something new – more a hybrid of blues and rock 'n roll than straight blues. That's how they were able to succeed with it and sell it back to America.

Villavic

01-07-2023, 08:25 AM

cbBen

01-07-2023, 09:04 AM

It would be really cool if he brought Janet Robin back into his solo band.

They could play lead guitar off each other, but he'd have to let Neale go and I don't see that happening.

With Brett sadly gone, I think he'll return to a four-piece band of himself, Neale, Jimmy, and Michael. If he were to add anyone, I think it would be Federico Pol on bass.

UnwindedDreams

01-07-2023, 12:09 PM

They could play lead guitar off each other, but he'd have to let Neale go and I just don't see that happening.

With Brett sadly gone, I think he'll return to a four-piece band of himself, Neale, Jimmy, and Michael. If he were to add anyone, I think it would be Federico Pol on bass.
Jimmy left Lindsey's band to return to The Chicks. The drummer in Lindsey's band is Michael Urbano.

I think you're right it will be a four piece. I think it's because of the budget. Fed wasn't hired for the 2021 Tour. I don't think Fed has played any tours with anyone since Solo Anthology Tour in 2018.

UnwindedDreams

01-07-2023, 12:11 PM

I think the Fleetwood-McVie-McVie rhythm section and Mike Campbell on lead would have given Neil’s song a much needed boot in the ass.
What is Campbell up to these days?

Crowded House is putting out a new album this year, right?

elle

01-07-2023, 01:06 PM

What is Campbell up to these days?

Crowded House is putting out a new album this year, right?

you should probably move this question to one of the other forums. what MC or CH is doing these days really has nothing to do with Lindsey solo.

UnwindedDreams

01-07-2023, 05:56 PM

you should probably move this question to one of the other forums. what MC or CH is doing these days really has nothing to do with Lindsey solo.
The executives here can delete it if I committed a crime.

WalkAThinLine.

01-20-2023, 12:22 PM

bombaysaffires

01-20-2023, 07:58 PM

In terms of the track listing, I'm curious if any of the unused tracks from the Gift of Screws bootleg will make an appearance on the new album. As of 2023, here are the remaining songs that have yet to appear on an official Lindsey Buckingham or Fleetwood Mac album.

1) Gotta Get Away
2) Wear You Down (Steve's Riff)
3) The Singer Not the Song
4) Deep Dense
5) Given Thing
6) When Blue Turns to Grey
7) My Little Demon (studio version)

I understand your point, but honestly The Dance version is the only studio version we're going to get released. Yes, I know The Dance is a 'live' album... but of course it's so heavy with studio overdubs that it can't really be considered 'live'

WalkAThinLine.

01-25-2023, 03:35 PM

I understand your point, but honestly The Dance version is the only studio version we're going to get released. Yes, I know The Dance is a 'live' album... but of course it's so heavy with studio overdubs that it can't really be considered 'live'

"Bleed to Love Her" was also on The Dance, but as we know, it eventually found a home on Say You Will. However, given that it has been 25+ years since the song was written it's not incredibly likely that Buckingham will revive any of these songs, although he has pulled songs from the archives in the past. If I'm not mistaken, "Swan Song" originated from the early 2000s and finally got released on his self-titled album in 2021.

bombaysaffires

01-29-2023, 10:30 PM

Young(er) Lindsey during the promotion of Go Insane. Funny to hear him back when he wasn't as rehearsed/scripted in his interviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goPqch3p9tA

cbBen

01-30-2023, 03:49 PM

pre-therapy (or perhaps pre-media training)

What he says at 8:08 is why the firing stung. He's long felt like the driver of the group's success. The relative failures of Behind the Mask and Time compared to Tango In The Night and The Dance only fueled the feeling.

After Say You Will failed to set the world on fire, I think Lindsey chalked up the result to the 2000's simply not being conducive to sales for Fleetwood Mac music (something Stevie foresees in the Destiny Rules documentary). But if the group was going to be a nostalgia act, at least he was band leader responsible for a successful live show.

FWIW, Stevie looks amazing with her hair up and braided in the picture at 12:30.