Tango in the Night tour.

[Wdm6789]

How cool would it have been if Lindsey did the Tango tour. Those Tango tour videos on YouTube are kind of lame. They would have been better if they were filmed like the Mirage tour videos. The Tango tour videos are mostly not even actually filmed live performances, they’re filmed and staged rehearsals with shots of audiences mixed in. I would love to see how cool the Tango tour videos could have been if Lindsey did the tour and they actually filmed a live show like the did for the Mirage tour videos. I’d especially love to see live Hold Me, Sara, and Gypsy from 1987. It would also be cool to see which of Lindsey’s Tango songs they would have played.

But… I will say that I do enjoy Rick and Billy’s guitar work, I really enjoy their sound.

[Macfan4life]

I dont think anyone would disagree with wanting Lindsey to do that tour. However, I respect his decision and he needed a break especially what he went through with the Tango sessions. He clearly had PTSD from working with a few. He didn't need to do the album and he did. It would have been a fantastic show with him. However I bet the Tango concert release would have been just as tacky and bad. That was a goofy trend in the late 80s to make videos of "live" performances. The Mirage show had real camera men on stage, holding big cameras on their shoulders. By the time 1987 came along, they had those roaming cameras. It was not really the band but the glam of the late 80s that made that horrible release.
If Lindsey did the tour, I would imagine he would have quit the band afterwards. What would have happened? There would be no BTM. They would have been a dead band until maybe the Dance. But who knows. Maybe they would have had auditions and come up with different guitarists and had a different kind of album than BTM.
Was I upset with Lindsey for quitting. OMG yes! But I truly think he needed that escape hatch.

[SteveMacD]

If they’d swapped out “Over My Head” with “Isn’t It Midnight,” the 2014 tour would have effectively been the proper TITN tour.

That said, I’m glad it worked out the way it did. Rick revisiting the early blues was worth it.

[Macfan4life]

If they’d swapped out “Over My Head” with “Isn’t It Midnight,” the 2014 tour would have effectively been the proper TITN tour.

That said, I’m glad it worked out the way it did. Rick revisiting the early blues was worth it.
yes, that's sort of true. We finally got to hear Seven Wonders and Little Lies with Lindsey on that tour. Its really sad that Isn't It Midnight was performed on 3 Mac tours but never with Lindsey. That should be a crime.

[bwboy]

yes, that's sort of true. We finally got to hear Seven Wonders and Little Lies with Lindsey on that tour. Its really sad that Isn't It Midnight was performed on 3 Mac tours but never with Lindsey. That should be a crime.

I suspect there’s a reason Lindsey wouldn’t play Isn’t It Midnight live.

[Macfan4life]

I suspect there’s a reason Lindsey wouldn’t play Isn’t It Midnight live.
My hunch is that is not the case. Chris was already playing both her singles from Tango on that tour. She was back and they only had so many songs. Chris picked all her hits which makes sense since her absence was so long and they had not been performed for so long. Its her song so she could have picked it. On the Dance she did Everywhere but not Little Lies. In 2014 she did both.
If Lindsey had not been fired, I bet he would have performed it instead of Neil and Mike on the 2018 tour.

It would have been incredible to do it as the second song welcoming back Chris in 2014. However much of the crowd would not know it so they stuck to one of her bigger hits uptempo song YMLF. But could you imagine it as her welcome back song? I would have needed a diaper.

[HomerMcvie]

I would have needed a diaper.

Honey, at your age, you're going to anyway.

[RockyRaccoon]

Kind of strange to think that "Big Love" has never been played live in its album arrangement, either by Lindsey or the band. It was a big hit! They definitely would have played it if Lindsey had toured, interesting to think how it might have sounded.

The Tango in the Night live video is such a strange and dated artifact. Those extra "closeups" of Stevie especially are weird as hell. I'm glad it exists because it's the only professionally filmed concert (at least that I know of) with that particular lineup.

[UnwindedDreams]

I suspect there’s a reason Lindsey wouldn’t play Isn’t It Midnight live.
Do you think it's because he co-wrote Isn't It Midnight?

[UnwindedDreams]

If they’d swapped out “Over My Head” with “Isn’t It Midnight,” the 2014 tour would have effectively been the proper TITN tour.
That's an interesting take. Since Stevie did Storms live for the first time on Unleashed, would that make it a proper tour of Tusk?

[FuzzyPlum]

Kind of strange to think that "Big Love" has never been played live in its album arrangement, either by Lindsey or the band. It was a big hit! They definitely would have played it if Lindsey had toured, interesting to think how it might have sounded.

The Tango in the Night live video is such a strange and dated artifact. Those extra "closeups" of Stevie especially are weird as hell. I'm glad it exists because it's the only professionally filmed concert (at least that I know of) with that particular lineup.

Yes, if he’d toured I’m sure they would have played the full band version of Big Love.
But…..eek….. they may have played Family Man.
That said, it might have been interesting…..he may have played FM as his acoustic ‘solo’ song.

[bwboy]

Do you think it's because he co-wrote Isn't It Midnight?

No, I just think he either has a hard time playing it live or more likely he doesn’t like the song. But no way is it a coincidence that FM didn’t ever play it live when he was in FM. Especially knowing they played it again live right after he was fired.

[bwboy]

Kind of strange to think that "Big Love" has never been played live in its album arrangement, either by Lindsey or the band. It was a big hit! They definitely would have played it if Lindsey had toured, interesting to think how it might have sounded.

I don’t think anybody else in FM had an attachment to Big Love… is anyone else in FM definitely on the song? I don’t see Stevie or Christine singing backup live, since they didn’t on the recorded version, so I definitely think it would have been played solo by Lindsey like it was on the Dance.

But I’d always thought a full band version of the song live would have sounded great. Imagine Dragons did a good job performing Big Love, judging from the clip I saw on YouTube.

[Macfan4life]

No, I just think he either has a hard time playing it live or more likely he doesn’t like the song. But no way is it a coincidence that FM didn’t ever play it live when he was in FM. Especially knowing they played it again live right after he was fired.
You really think it would be Lindsey's choice and not Christine's since its her song? I think the vocalists decide for themselves which song of theirs to do live.
During the Dance, the band did not even do Little Lies which was their biggest hit off Tango. Chris focused on the 20th anniversary of Rumours to dig out Oh Daddy and a Lindsey return. When Chris came back in 2013, the band was already playing 4 songs from Tango in that set. Chris was back and dusted off all her hits that had not been performed in well over a decade. Little Lies with Lindsey was put in. I dont see the exclusion of Isn't It Midnight anything else except Chris showcasing all her hits with the band again. The 2018 tour had no Lindsey. Both Chris and Stevie needed to pick up the slack because Lindsey was gone. There was room for both of them to explore and dig deeper.
We know Chris likes the song but I dont see the exclusion of it during OWTS meaning Lindsey does not like it. I bet he's damn proud of it. But its not his song to tell Chris which of her songs she wants to do. You think because Little Lies was not performed in 1997 means Lindsey does not like it? Same point.

[bwboy]

Fleetwood Mac played Isn’t It Midnight on their 1987 and 1990 tours. When Lindsey returned with Christine and Stevie for the Dance, they didn’t play it in 1996 or when Christine returned in 2014-2015. Nor did Buck/Vie perform it during their tour, a bit surprising since it’s one of the few McVie/Buckingham co-writes. After Lindsey left again, FM brought the song back. You don’t have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey didn’t want to perform it.

Yes, I do believe Lindsey could say he didn’t want to perform one of Christine’s songs, and she would be ok with that. Christine seemed like the kind of person who was easy to work with, and if Lindsey said he didn’t want to play one of her songs, then yes, I believe she would have been fine with that.

[UnwindedDreams]

Fleetwood Mac played Isn’t It Midnight on their 1987 and 1990 tours. When Lindsey returned with Christine and Stevie for the Dance, they didn’t play it in 1996 or when Christine returned in 2014-2015. Nor did Buck/Vie perform it during their tour, a bit surprising since it’s one of the few McVie/Buckingham co-writes. After Lindsey left again, FM brought the song back. You don’t have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey didn’t want to perform it.

Yes, I do believe Lindsey could say he didn’t want to perform one of Christine’s songs, and she would be ok with that. Christine seemed like the kind of person who was easy to work with, and if Lindsey said he didn’t want to play one of her songs, then yes, I believe she would have been fine with that.
Would you agree that you don't have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey permitted any Stevie song to be in the concert sets? While Lindsey was in the band, Without You, Storms, Sisters of the Moon, Seven Wonders, Beautiful Child, Angel, Goodbye Baby, Sweet Girl, Destiny Rules, Silver Springs and more were in the set?

In 2018, there was no novelty in the Stevie penned songs that were played live. Especially since the tour prior to 2018, they performed 7 Wonders and Sisters of the Moon which hadn't been played in decades.

[Macfan4life]

Fleetwood Mac played Isn’t It Midnight on their 1987 and 1990 tours. When Lindsey returned with Christine and Stevie for the Dance, they didn’t play it in 1996 or when Christine returned in 2014-2015. Nor did Buck/Vie perform it during their tour, a bit surprising since it’s one of the few McVie/Buckingham co-writes. After Lindsey left again, FM brought the song back. You don’t have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey didn’t want to perform it.

Yes, I do believe Lindsey could say he didn’t want to perform one of Christine’s songs, and she would be ok with that. Christine seemed like the kind of person who was easy to work with, and if Lindsey said he didn’t want to play one of her songs, then yes, I believe she would have been fine with that.
Sorry that is a leap of logic too far. The song is great. No doubt everyone in the band likes it. If Chris wanted to do it on any tour, she would have done it and Lindsey would have liked it. Buck/Vie was mostly promoting their new album which almost all the songs were played. Not much room for deep Mac tunes. By your own logic, you could also take other songs that were done on earlier tours and not with On With The Show and say the same thing i.e. Lindsey does not like it. Unless you have personal knowledge of what Lindsey likes I just cant understand that logic. Seven Wonders was not performed on SYW or Unleashed. Was it because Lindsey did not like it? It was done on OWTS because of American Horror Story (Stevie said so from the stage). It was her song and her choice what to perform. Love In Store has not been performed since 1982. Is it because Lindsey does not like it or because Chris has chosen not to perform it. Chris dug out Think About Me on the Australian leg. Would you say it was not performed in the States because Lindsey did not like it?

[bwboy]

Would you agree that you don't have to be a scientist to figure out Lindsey permitted any Stevie song to be in the concert sets? While Lindsey was in the band, Without You, Storms, Sisters of the Moon, Seven Wonders, Beautiful Child, Angel, Goodbye Baby, Sweet Girl, Destiny Rules, Silver Springs and more were in the set?

In 2018, there was no novelty in the Stevie penned songs that were played live. Especially since the tour prior to 2018, they performed 7 Wonders and Sisters of the Moon which hadn't been played in decades.

I just know FM has never performed Isn’t It Midnight when Lindsey was in the band, and they have played it every tour he wasn’t. Maybe it is just a coincidence. I have no inside information, but if I’m right and Lindsey is the reason they didn’t perform the song live, so what? I’m not criticizing him for that. It’s just my opinion. I’m not saying he was difficult to work with, refused to play with his band mates, etc. Like I said, Christine was probably the easiest person to arrange a setlist with. If she’d felt passionately about it, I’m sure Lindsey would have performed it.

[Macfan4life]

I was in shock in 1997 that Little Lies was not performed since Lindsey was back. He is on back up vocals and it was their biggest hit from their last studio album. However Chris had to make decisions based on the amount of songs she got and she put a new twist on Say You Love Me, and did Everywhere and did Oh Daddy instead of Little Lies. I am only guessing but the Rumours anniversary may have had something to do with it. I doubt it was Lindsey who blocked it.

[bwboy]

I was in shock in 1997 that Little Lies was not performed since Lindsey was back. He is on back up vocals and it was their biggest hit from their last studio album. However Chris had to make decisions based on the amount of songs she got and she put a new twist on Say You Love Me, and did Everywhere and did Oh Daddy instead of Little Lies. I am only guessing but the Rumours anniversary may have had something to do with it. I doubt it was Lindsey who blocked it.

I never said Lindsey blocked Isn’t It Midnight, refused to play it, or anything else of the sort. I’m sure they discuss the setlist and narrow the songs down to the ones they want to perform. I don’t think, nor did I say, that Lindsey refused to perform it, despite Christine’s passionate tears and begging him lol. I do think Christine was very easygoing about her setlist- I can almost guarantee you it was Stevie who chose All Over Again for their last tour, for example. If Christine offered Isn’t It Midnight, and anyone seemed less than enthusiastic about it, she was fine with leaving it out. In this case, I think it was Lindsey, based on the simple fact that in three incarnations of the band, only the one with Lindsey hasn’t performed it. That’s my logic, and it doesn’t seem incomprehensible to me.

[UnwindedDreams]

I just know FM has never performed Isn’t It Midnight when Lindsey was in the band, and they have played it every tour he wasn’t. Maybe it is just a coincidence. I have no inside information, but if I’m right and Lindsey is the reason they didn’t perform the song live, so what? I’m not criticizing him for that. It’s just my opinion. I’m not saying he was difficult to work with, refused to play with his band mates, etc. Like I said, Christine was probably the easiest person to arrange a setlist with. If she’d felt passionately about it, I’m sure Lindsey would have performed it.
But you won't say that Stevie dug deep in her song library on stage while Lindsey was in the band. With Billy and Rick or with Neil and Mike she did the usual stuff.
But nevermind, Lindsey isn't able to play Isn't It Midnight on guitar.

[HomerMcvie]

Y'all are just funny AF, and should get a room.

BTW, Merry Christmas. 🎁

[SteveMacD]

That's an interesting take. Since Stevie did Storms live for the first time on Unleashed, would that make it a proper tour of Tusk?

A few problems with your question:

1. The lineup that made Tusk did an extensive tour behind the album.

2. Christine wasn’t in the band in 2009, so the lineup that made Tusk wasn’t touring.

3. When the Rumours band got back together in 1997, they were promoting an MTV reunion tour and a few new songs from that album. However, that lineup never did a tour for TITN. The 2014-early 2015 tour didn’t have any songs that came after 1987. Usually when Fleetwood Mac tours behind a new album, they play four to six new songs. “Isn’t It Midnight” would have been the fifth TITN song. Swapping out OMH for IIM would have been something closer to what Fleetwood Mac would have done in 1987.

[UnwindedDreams]

A few problems with your question:

1. The lineup that made Tusk did an extensive tour behind the album.

2. Christine wasn’t in the band in 2009, so the lineup that made Tusk wasn’t touring.

3. When the Rumours band got back together in 1997, they were promoting an MTV reunion tour and a few new songs from that album. However, that lineup never did a tour for TITN. The 2014-early 2015 tour didn’t have any songs that came after 1987. Usually when Fleetwood Mac tours behind a new album, they play four to six new songs. “Isn’t It Midnight” would have been the fifth TITN song. Swapping out OMH for IIM would have been something closer to what Fleetwood Mac would have done in 1987.
Got you. So Tango tour featured four Tango songs and On With The Show featured four Tango songs.

They also could have swapped out Think About Me and done Isn't It Midnight during On With the Show.

The Dance Tour featured the four new songs from the album. Say You Will had seven new songs.

[Villavic]

They also could have swapped out Think About Me and done Isn't It Midnight during On With the Show.


They didn't play TAM in oct 2014, but I see they replaced Over my Head with Think About me in late 2015 shows.

[dougl]

They didn't play TAM in oct 2014, but I see they replaced Over my Head with Think About me in late 2015 shows.

Brisbane 10.11.15

https://youtu.be/2-VAQNTfllM

[David]

I was in shock in 1997 that Little Lies was not performed since Lindsey was back. He is on back up vocals and it was their biggest hit from their last studio album. However Chris had to make decisions based on the amount of songs she got and she put a new twist on Say You Love Me, and did Everywhere and did Oh Daddy instead of Little Lies. I am only guessing but the Rumours anniversary may have had something to do with it. I doubt it was Lindsey who blocked it.

The Dance was also the first time that Lindsey had played GOLD DUST WOMAN since 1978. I always thought that was really bizarre.

Then again, TUSK the album was only represented on the DANCE tour with two songs, right? NOT THAT FUNNY and TUSK? The biggest single on TUSK was never played in 1997.

[michelej1]

I don’t think Lindsey wanted to play Isn’t it Midnight live either. But if he didn’t like it, it probably would never have gotten on the album. He co-wrote it.

[bwboy]

I don’t think Lindsey wanted to play Isn’t it Midnight live either. But if he didn’t like it, it probably would never have gotten on the album. He co-wrote it.

There is an alternate take of Isn’t It Midnight on the Chain boxset, I believe credited to only Christine and Eddy, which I took to mean Lindsey added the incredible guitar and music we get on the final version on Tango. There could be several reasons Lindsey didn’t want to play it live (if that was indeed the case). Maybe he felt the song was too ‘pop sounding’ or maybe he didn’t want to waste his time on a guitar solo on that particular song. It is fascinating to me that he co-wrote it, but never performed it live. All the more reason I think he didn’t care to perform it live. Again, I’m sure if Christine had said she really wanted to perform it, he would have.

[jbrownsjr]

I have nothing to back this up. But, I highly doubt Lindsey would veto Christine if she wanted to play this song. Maybe someone struggled with a note or two vocally, or they liked the way one of her other songs came across.

Also, it's a reunion celebrating Christine's return. Her hits are what would come front and center.

Personally, it's one of my favorite songs.

[SteveMacD]

I have no idea why Lindsey never played it live, but whether or not he liked the song, it was absolutely necessary for side 2 on TITN, otherwise, Little Lies would have been the rocker.

[cbBen]

I have nothing to back this up. But, I highly doubt Lindsey would veto Christine if she wanted to play this song. Maybe someone struggled with a note or two vocally, or they liked the way one of her other songs came across.

Also, it's a reunion celebrating Christine's return. Her hits are what would come front and center.

Personally, it's one of my favorite songs.

Yes, you never know whether they rehearsed it and found it just didn't come off well.

[petep9000]

Those extra "closeups" of Stevie especially are weird as hell.

Her zombie Klonopin moon-face and that stiff crazy hair. The Heart sisters hair looked more bouncy than Stevie's hair.

[David]

Her zombie Klonopin moon-face and that stiff crazy hair. The Heart sisters hair looked more bouncy than Stevie's hair.

Better pokey than mokey? What was that phrase? We used to laugh and laugh, old boy.

[petep9000]

Better pokey than mokey? What was that phrase? We used to laugh and laugh, old boy.

Yeah! Cokey is better than Pokey! :laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

Yeah! Cokey is better than Pokey! :laugh:

Are you holding? :woohoo:

[SteveMacD]

Yeah! Cokey is better than Pokey! :laugh:

IME, cokey means no pokey.

[jbrownsjr]

What in the world has happened to this thread? :laugh:

[SteveMacD]

What in the world has happened to this thread? :laugh:

It devolved. Okie dokie?

[jbrownsjr]

Okie from Muskogee