Stevie's social media tribute to Christine... (RIP)

[ricohv]

https://www.stereogum.com/2207221/stevie-nicks-christine-mcvie-tribute/news/?fbclid=IwAR0U2wBJLHFFOHG7LyjzBwdkS07sCAKPdFimAS0tN5BMcJoG78rd2AxM_pQ
I'm curious what everyone will think of Stevie's message. It's not totally self absorbed but sometimes her writing style is so odd (all the ellipses, dashes and commas used incorrectly.) Just my 2 cents!

[Jondalar]

https://www.stereogum.com/2207221/stevie-nicks-christine-mcvie-tribute/news/?fbclid=IwAR0U2wBJLHFFOHG7LyjzBwdkS07sCAKPdFimAS0tN5BMcJoG78rd2AxM_pQ
I'm curious what everyone will think of Stevie's message. It's not totally self absorbed but sometimes her writing style is so odd (all the ellipses, dashes and commas used incorrectly.) Just my 2 cents!

It's odd but whenever she posts something, it ends up being odd. I do believe she cared about Christine so it's hard for me to criticize her. I think she had good intentions, but it feels like she speaks in riddles and images or something. She still reminds of a crazy aunt that relatives hide away in the attack.

[HomerMcvie]

It's odd but whenever she posts something, it ends up being odd. I do believe she cared about Christine so it's hard for me to criticize her. I think she had good intentions, but it feels like she speaks in riddles and images or something. She still reminds of a crazy aunt that relatives hide away in the attack.

She turns everything into being about her.

[Jondalar]

She turns everything into being about her.

She has that "whatever happened to Baby Jane" quality.

[ricohv]

It's odd but whenever she posts something, it ends up being odd. I do believe she cared about Christine so it's hard for me to criticize her. I think she had good intentions, but it feels like she speaks in riddles and images or something. She still reminds of a crazy aunt that relatives hide away in the attack.
I agree, I believe she truly cared for Christine so I don't want to be too harsh. I just wish she'd have someone proof it, or if she'd just spend more time on it so that it might come across more effectively.

[UnwindedDreams]

What does it mean "She was told to wait"? Chris' family told her to wait? It's so so sad if they knew she was dying over the weekend.

[DownOnRodeo]

What does it mean "She was told to wait"? Chris' family told her to wait? It's so so sad if they knew she was dying over the weekend.

Chris probably had an advanced health directive in place to stop Stevie visiting her bedside. The fear of all that endless prattle without being able to waltz out of the room.

Chris was so low-drama; I'm glad she went on her terms, without a circus.

[ricohv]

Chris probably had an advanced health directive in place to stop Stevie visiting her bedside. The fear of all that endless prattle without being able to waltz out of the room.

OMG :lol::lol::lol:

[Villavic]

I'm curious what everyone will think of Stevie's message.

I don't mind. This is not the time to look for who agrees or who criticizes the messages. I don't think Christine would have liked to read comments about condolences from her friends.

Her family posted they are at a extremely painful time. Let's just remember how wonderful Christine McVie was. My two cents.

[tothegypsy]

Of course everyone is entitled to feel however they like about Stevie, but I wish for just a day we could pause the bashing.

[Phoenixgypsy]

Of course everyone is entitled to feel however they like about Stevie, but I wish for just a day we could pause the bashing.

I wish we had a "Like" button- I totally agree.

[UnwindedDreams]

Of course everyone is entitled to feel however they like about Stevie, but I wish for just a day we could pause the bashing.
Yes, and also that reciprocal posts are instead posts of condolences for Christine and her loved ones.

[HomerMcvie]

Chris probably had an advanced health directive in place to stop Stevie visiting her bedside. The fear of all that endless prattle without being able to waltz out of the room.

Chris was so low-drama; I'm glad she went on her terms, without a circus.

OMG, you win.

I would imagine Lindsey has the same clause in his. His makeup person should paint a smirk on his face, when his time comes. You know, so when she shows up, rambling on about herself, her last memory of him will be him smirking at her.

[sleepless child]

I wonder if Chris was getting ready to go into some type of palleative care and that was why Stevie was told to wait. But Chris must have passed before that. I was in Pennsylvania and my mom was in Virginia and I was told the same thing when she came to her final days. So it makes me wonder if she had cancer, but that is just a guess on my part.

[bombaysaffires]

Chris probably had an advanced health directive in place to stop Stevie visiting her bedside. The fear of all that endless prattle without being able to waltz out of the room.

Chris was so low-drama; I'm glad she went on her terms, without a circus.

OMG, you win.

I would imagine Lindsey has the same clause in his. His makeup person should paint a smirk on his face, when his time comes. You know, so when she shows up, rambling on about herself, her last memory of him will be him smirking at her.

y'all just made me laugh....so thank you! :angel:

[HomerMcvie]

I wonder if Chris was getting ready to go into some type of palleative care and that was why Stevie was told to wait. But Chris must have passed before that. I was in Pennsylvania and my mom was in Virginia and I was told the same thing when she came to her final days. So it makes me wonder if she had cancer, but that is just a guess on my part.

I've wondered the same. Her inability to play keys, and wasn't she having back pain when they last toured? I wonder if she'd been sick for some time? Although I can't imagine wanting to tour if I was terminally ill. I wouldn't.

[SteveMacD]

If we're all upset about Christine's passing, I can't imagine how Stevie feels. Her note came off as someone who's distraught, but trying to keep it together, TBH.

[SaraRhiannon]

Chris probably had an advanced health directive in place to stop Stevie visiting her bedside. The fear of all that endless prattle without being able to waltz out of the room.


OMG.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Thank you. Needed this tonight.

[SaraRhiannon]

https://www.stereogum.com/2207221/stevie-nicks-christine-mcvie-tribute/news/?fbclid=IwAR0U2wBJLHFFOHG7LyjzBwdkS07sCAKPdFimAS0tN5BMcJoG78rd2AxM_pQ
I'm curious what everyone will think of Stevie's message. It's not totally self absorbed but sometimes her writing style is so odd (all the ellipses, dashes and commas used incorrectly.) Just my 2 cents!

Well, it’s not as Stevie-centric as I thought it would be, so I guess there’s that. Slightly confused about her posting the HAIM song instead of, say, one of her own songs or poems, but perhaps it really spoke to her. 🤷🏻*♀️ I always got the feeling that she genuinely loved Christine so I imagine she’s grieving pretty hard right now. For that I’ll cut her some slack.

[UnwindedDreams]

If we're all upset about Christine's passing, I can't imagine how Stevie feels. Her note came off as someone who's distraught, but trying to keep it together, TBH.
She probably is feeling it hard. Christine said she hasn't been speaking to Stevie since the last tour ended.

[Hawkeye]

Chris probably had an advanced health directive in place to stop Stevie visiting her bedside. The fear of all that endless prattle without being able to waltz out of the room.

Chris was so low-drama; I'm glad she went on her terms, without a circus.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: wow, thank you for taking the sting out of today for the first time with that.

[reebokandlace]

Chris probably had an advanced health directive in place to stop Stevie visiting her bedside. The fear of all that endless prattle without being able to waltz out of the room.

Chris was so low-drama; I'm glad she went on her terms, without a circus.

OMG. I don’t want to criticize how a person mourns….but thank you for the LOL moment.

On a serious note…. I believe Christine’s passing is yet another reminder of Stevie’s own mortality.

I’m sure all the members of the Mac are thinking “who’s next?”

Linds left a very cryptic post in his instagram the day before Chris passed…which made people wonder if he was ok…. it makes more sense now….although I can’t figure out what the “September” part means

“And the days dwindle down
To a precious few . . .
September, November . . .
And these few precious days”

[sue]

OMG. I don’t want to criticize how a person mourns….but thank you for the LOL moment.




Linds left a very cryptic post in his instagram the day before Chris passed…which made people wonder if he was ok…. it makes more sense now….although I can’t figure out what the “September” part means

“And the days dwindle down
To a precious few . . .
September, November . . .
And these few precious days”

The words are from The September song, looking back in a lyrical sense on the latter part of your life…..from September to December

Very apt at the moment..
Sue

[Macfan4life]

OMG people. Stevie's response was very touching. I love how personal it is. Its not typed words on the twitter machine but her own written words. Its not fair to criticize her for grief because of her past actions. She wanted to say those words she would have told her. When my mother died the funeral home director had a great idea. He told us that if we wanted a private message write a letter and before the casket is closed, slip the letter under the mattress. I found it very therapeutic that my letter to my mom would be with her forever. Stevie also had blunt honesty in her response how she did not know anything was wrong before it was too late. Chris and Stevie had such a unique relationship. Yes it was strained and non existent in the mid 80s but their dynamic would not work in another band. Stevie has said this herself. Chris was playing hard with the boys for years. Bringing a very attractive, delicate female singer to the front of the stage who does not play an instrument would have caused friction with anyone else except Chris. Chris was too strong a person to feel insecure about that.. I think Chris said it best that they were polar opposites in every why which is why they clicked.

Stevie has been doing tributes to Prince and Tom for years in her solo acts and with the Mac. This upcoming stadium tour, will she do a tribute to Chris?

[reebokandlace]

The words are from The September song, looking back in a lyrical sense on the latter part of your life…..from September to December

Very apt at the moment..
Sue

Thank you, appreciate that detail. I did not know they were lyrics. Definitely makes sense.

[sleepless child]

Stevie is Stevie. Some of her quotes are questionable like my best friend when Chris said they hadn't talked since the tour. And at the end, "don't forget me". She can't help herself. But we know she is just gutted by this. I loved that she hand wrote her tribute and the Haim song reference didn't bother me. I just feel so sad for all of us that loved her and I'm so happy I got to see her live and sing with her beautiful voice and magical songs

[vivfox]

I wonder if Chris was getting ready to go into some type of palleative care and that was why Stevie was told to wait. But Chris must have passed before that. I was in Pennsylvania and my mom was in Virginia and I was told the same thing when she came to her final days. So it makes me wonder if she had cancer, but that is just a guess on my part.
I looked up the definition of scoliosis and learned it mostly occurs in teenagers. Then it said this: While scoliosis can occur in people with conditions such as cerebral palsy and muscular dystrophy, the cause of most childhood scoliosis is unknown.

So perhaps Christine had an underlying medical condition we don't know about.

[vivfox]

Stevie has been doing tributes to Prince and Tom for years in her solo acts and with the Mac. This upcoming stadium tour, will she do a tribute to Chris?

Wow, wouldn't this be a great idea. I hope she takes your advice and does this and that she uses multiple pics of the two of them we have never seen before.

[HomerMcvie]

Thank you, appreciate that detail. I did not know they were lyrics. Definitely makes sense.

Written in 1938. Frank Sinatra recorded it, and I think Porter Waggoner did, too. Lindsey did on Law and Order.

[bwboy]

[QUOTE=Macfan4life;1279412 Stevie has been doing tributes to Prince and Tom for years in her solo acts and with the Mac. This upcoming stadium tour, will she do a tribute to Chris?[/QUOTE]

Thank you for sharing that about your mother :angel:

I think a tribute to Christine would be wonderful, but I can’t imagine what it would be. Stevie got raked over the coals for singing Say You Love Me on tour. Maybe All Over Again, the song she sang with Christine on the last FM tour? Brown Eyes is a beautiful, haunting song, but I don’t know if Stevie could pull that one off.

I read that she wrote Think About It and Say You Will for Christine… maybe one of those songs? Say You Will sang as a ballad would be a fitting tribute, lyrically. Maybe the HAIM song she quoted? Or maybe she would just dedicate a song to her. But performing a song would be beautiful.

[Jondalar]

Chiristine had scoliosis. That is why she was in a lot pain all the time with her back. I wonder if she caught covid, becuase they say it was rapid illness.

So, the more I thought about Stevie's unique tribute to Christine, the more I think Christine knew Stevie so well, she would expect and understand a tribute like this and be glad for it. She knows how Stevie is and obviously likes her.

[BigAl84]

This is pure speculation. Often times severe back pain can be a symptom of undiagnosed pancreatic cancer. It's possible that she though she was having back pain due to her known scoliosis and later found out it was cancer.

[jmn3]

Thank you for sharing that about your mother :angel:

I think a tribute to Christine would be wonderful, but I can’t imagine what it would be. Stevie got raked over the coals for singing Say You Love Me on tour. Maybe All Over Again, the song she sang with Christine on the last FM tour? Brown Eyes is a beautiful, haunting song, but I don’t know if Stevie could pull that one off.

I read that she wrote Think About It and Say You Will for Christine… maybe one of those songs? Say You Will sang as a ballad would be a fitting tribute, lyrically. Maybe the HAIM song she quoted? Or maybe she would just dedicate a song to her. But performing a song would be beautiful.

Don’t Stop. I’d bet her encore becomes Free Fallin’ and Don’t Stop.

[SteveMacD]

Don’t Stop. I’d bet her encore becomes Free Fallin’ and Don’t Stop.

I can much more easily imagine “Don’t Stop” being an encore on the Billy Joel tour, now.

[Macfan4life]

This is pure speculation. Often times severe back pain can be a symptom of undiagnosed pancreatic cancer. It's possible that she though she was having back pain due to her known scoliosis and later found out it was cancer.
I could see that. That is often the case. Something happened really fast and then it was time. So fast that it was kept private from everyone until the end was near.
My uncle had pancreatic cancer and when he was diagnosed they gave him 4 months to live. He lived 3. But its all speculation and reading the tea leaves. If it was a health scare that was recoverable people like Stevie or others would have known. When you dont have much time, you tend to keep everything private so there is not so much grief and drama around you. Its very sad but we must celebrate her incredible life and the joy she brought to the world. Living to 79 is really good. Just think she was in her mid 70s touring with the band. Thats amazing. She was also singing with no autotune. She carried on. She overcame her anxiety and fear of flying to come back in her 70s is unheard of. People in their 20s can barely change let alone a very rich woman that has everything she needs. She loved playing and performing and we are truly blessed.

[SteveMacD]

I lost an aunt to pancreatic cancer. They gave her six months, she lasted less than a week.

[bwboy]

I can much more easily imagine “Don’t Stop” being an encore on the Billy Joel tour, now.

You and jmn3 have to be right, and it makes total sense. One of Christine’s best known songs; Stevie’s done it live with her solo band before; Billy Joel would be a natural for this song; and the lyrics really exemplify the spirit of Christine. And what better way to pay tribute to someone then with such a joyous song? I don’t care for the song, it’s like a handful of others that I’ve overexposed myself to, but I cant imagine hearing it now and not appreciating more than ever.

[DownOnRodeo]

Don’t Stop. I’d bet her encore becomes Free Fallin’ and Don’t Stop.

I could see Stevie doing Storms as a dedication to Chris.

Chris was the blue calm sea.
Now they are frail.

"So I try to say goodbye, my friend."

[HomerMcvie]

On the pancreatic flip side, they gave my mom 3-4 months, and she lived two years with it. And it was only ugly the last couple of weeks.

[UnwindedDreams]

I have a feeling the Stevie shows with Billy Joel were booked because Fleetwood Mac decided not to play live anymore months ago. These Billy concerts could have been a Fleetwood Mac and Billy Joel tour or even FM playing stadiums alone with a smaller opening act like Chicago. Mick had said FM's future was huge festivals and stadium shows and after almost 4 years since an FM tour, 2023 would've been perfect.

It will be interesting to see what Stevie chooses as a song for Christine in her shows next year.

[SteveMacD]

On the pancreatic flip side

That almost sounds like a phrase in a Robert Pollard lyric.

[SteveMacD]

You and jmn3 have to be right, and it makes total sense. One of Christine’s best known songs; Stevie’s done it live with her solo band before; Billy Joel would be a natural for this song; and the lyrics really exemplify the spirit of Christine. And what better way to pay tribute to someone then with such a joyous song?

And, it’s an incredible sing-a-long.

[HomerMcvie]

That almost sounds like a phrase in a Robert Pollard lyric.

He needs to stop spilling beer in my monitors. :wavey:

[SteveMacD]

He needs to stop spilling beer in my monitors. :wavey:

I thought you sold your monitors.

[HomerMcvie]

I thought you sold your monitors.

I did. After MANY beer spills by Bob. I literally flipped them upside down in the middle of a show once, because he wouldn't stop dumping his beer on them. A show after that had trash bags over them during the show. He didn't like that at all. But he figured out that I meant business. If he ruins two speakers and two horns during a show, I made NOTHING for the entire day. I'll do whatever I have to do. No respect for me turns around on a dime.

[Villavic]

I can much more easily imagine “Don’t Stop” being an encore on the Billy Joel tour, now.

I know this is unlikely to happen, mainly because it's not a well-known song, but it would be beautiful if they sang Do You Know.

[AnthonyMI]

I could see that. That is often the case. Something happened really fast and then it was time. So fast that it was kept private from everyone until the end was near.
My uncle had pancreatic cancer and when he was diagnosed they gave him 4 months to live. He lived 3. But its all speculation and reading the tea leaves. If it was a health scare that was recoverable people like Stevie or others would have known. When you dont have much time, you tend to keep everything private so there is not so much grief and drama around you. Its very sad but we must celebrate her incredible life and the joy she brought to the world. Living to 79 is really good. Just think she was in her mid 70s touring with the band. Thats amazing. She was also singing with no autotune. She carried on. She overcame her anxiety and fear of flying to come back in her 70s is unheard of. People in their 20s can barely change let alone a very rich woman that has everything she needs. She loved playing and performing and we are truly blessed.


I agree. I had written her out after she left in 1998. She was a has-been.

Coming back and doing a great tour with FM, a terrific album with Fleetwood Mac (its FM. Stevie can sue me) a mediocre tour with FM and then still performing and doing press and featured in commercials, she went out on top. Someone who is 79 should not be doing all that. We should all be so lucky. A rocker it’s almost unheard of. Even Grace Slick has been a nobody for 30plus years.

[HomerMcvie]

I know this is unlikely to happen, mainly because it's not a well-known song, but it would be beautiful if they sang Do You Know.

That's my favorite song on BTM.

[BLY]

That's my favorite song on BTM.

Mine also.

[ricohv]

That's my favorite song on BTM.

I haven't listened to BTM (or even thought about it) for so long thAT I had kind of forgot how pretty that song is, especially now. It's too bad everyone brought so many MOR turds to that album, except Chris of course. She always brings the most solid bunch of songs to every album IMHO!

[HomerMcvie]

I haven't listened to BTM (or even thought about it) for so long thAT I had kind of forgot how pretty that song is, especially now. It's too bad everyone brought so many MOR turds to that album, except Chris of course. She always brings the most solid bunch of songs to every album IMHO!
I haven't listened to it for ages, either. I was a freshman in college, and had a huge crush on someone, and I forever linked Do You Know to that crush.

[Macfan4life]

I haven't listened to it for ages, either. I was a freshman in college, and had a huge crush on someone, and I forever linked Do You Know to that crush.
I was a sophomore in college. Funny. I always pictured you way older than me :lol:

Fleetwood Mac was the uncoolest band to be into at that point especially in college. I remember bringing my OSOTM and BTM cassettes to college in 1990 and people giving me "you're weird" look. How can anyone not be into Two Kinds of Love, Fire Burning, Affairs of the Heart, and The Second Time. I mean what was wrong with those kids?

I do remember my college radio station playing Affairs of the Heart once. The station was piped into the cafeteria and I remember being in awe :)

[HomerMcvie]

I was a sophomore in college. Funny. I always pictured you way older than me :lol:


Maybe because you're old and bitter?

[UnwindedDreams]

Stevie wrote in her letter for Christine last week "Don't forget me"

A week after Christine's passing, Stevie's made posts about Lizzo and Brittney Griner. I never heard Stevie mention she's a fan of Lizzo in the past years or ever heard Stevie make a statement of support for women's basketball or Brittney when she was imprisoned.

God bless Mick for the reverence he's showing with his silenced social media this week.

[Penguin Emeritus]

I could see that. That is often the case. Something happened really fast and then it was time. So fast that it was kept private from everyone until the end was near.
My uncle had pancreatic cancer and when he was diagnosed they gave him 4 months to live. He lived 3. But its all speculation and reading the tea leaves. If it was a health scare that was recoverable people like Stevie or others would have known. When you dont have much time, you tend to keep everything private so there is not so much grief and drama around you. Its very sad but we must celebrate her incredible life and the joy she brought to the world. Living to 79 is really good. Just think she was in her mid 70s touring with the band. Thats amazing. She was also singing with no autotune. She carried on. She overcame her anxiety and fear of flying to come back in her 70s is unheard of. People in their 20s can barely change let alone a very rich woman that has everything she needs. She loved playing and performing and we are truly blessed.


Beautifully said.

I keep playing on Sands of Time over and over tonight. Chris's harmonies on that song are so gorgeous. She makes the song soar.

--Lis

[blinker12]

^ All that makes sense (something like pancreatic cancer) but why keep it a secret after her passing? There’s certainly no shame in cancer.

[HomerMcvie]

^ All that makes sense (something like pancreatic cancer) but why keep it a secret after her passing? There’s certainly no shame in cancer.

I feel the same. Cause of death became a secret when AIDS first came around, and never went away. I don't understand why people don't want the public to know whether it was cancer, heart disease, or whatever. I think knowing gives us peace in some way.

[Penguin Emeritus]

I feel the same. Cause of death became a secret when AIDS first came around, and never went away. I don't understand why people don't want the public to know whether it was cancer, heart disease, or whatever. I think knowing gives us peace in some way.

I'm the kind of person who likes details and info, it does help me process things. But maybe her family felt so much of her life was 'public'..and they really wanted to keep this final thing private...? so it would just belong to them and not to the world? I don't know. if it really happened quickly then we can't judge them...they must have been reeling.

I saw a rumor she passed away after getting the covid vaccine but sometimes anti-vax people blame any death on the vaccine.

Mick and Stevie have extraordinarily big mouths. maybe they will talk at some point...

--Lis

[cbBen]

^ All that makes sense (something like pancreatic cancer) but why keep it a secret after her passing? There’s certainly no shame in cancer.

I've always found objectionable the "beat cancer" and "battle with cancer" phraseology. It makes it sound as though those who die from cancer just weren't strong enough.

[ricohv]

I'm the kind of person who likes details and info, it does help me process things. But maybe her family felt so much of her life was 'public'..and they really wanted to keep this final thing private...? so it would just belong to them and not to the world? I don't know. if it really happened quickly then we can't judge them...they must have been reeling.
--Lis
I don't really know much about Christine's personal life or family. She wasn't married at the time of death and never had kids. Who was her family she would have been surrounded by when she died, does anyone know?

[SteveMacD]

I’m guessing her older brother, maybe sister-in-law (assuming he was still married) and nephew.

She also had a half-brother and step-sister who were young enough to be her children, but I don’t know what their relationship was at that point.

[David]

Maybe she had a urinary tract infection or some other bacterial or viral attack (staphylococcus, MRSA, etc.). If she died in the hospital, she may very well have picked up a microbe in the hospital quite unexpectedly. At age 79, stranger things have happened.

[Feather Blade]

I'm the kind of person who likes details and info, it does help me process things. But maybe her family felt so much of her life was 'public'..and they really wanted to keep this final thing private...? so it would just belong to them and not to the world? I don't know. if it really happened quickly then we can't judge them...they must have been reeling.

I saw a rumor she passed away after getting the covid vaccine but sometimes anti-vax people blame any death on the vaccine.

Mick and Stevie have extraordinarily big mouths. maybe they will talk at some point...

--Lis

I also read in a couple of places that cause of death was related to an adverse reaction to a Covid shot. I have been curious to hear what happened. In this day and age people aren't usually so quiet about how someone died.

[Karlie]

I also read in a couple of places that cause of death was related to an adverse reaction to a Covid shot. I have been curious to hear what happened. In this day and age people aren't usually so quiet about how someone died.

Anti-vaxxers will jump on any notable death and blame it on the COVID vaccine, especially if the cause hasn’t been released. (But I’ve even seen them do it if a cause is known - Cancer? The vaccine caused the cancer! Car accident? The vaccine made them magnetic which pulled the other car to them! Yes, literally seen that one.)

I’m curious to know what happened too but I feel like ultimately it isn’t anyone’s business if the family wants to keep it private. I’ve known people who’ve had cancer and didn’t want it to be made public because they didn’t want to be remembered as a sick person or have their whole legacy associated with the disease. So maybe it was something like that.

[Macfan4life]

Anti-vaxxers will jump on any notable death and blame it on the COVID vaccine, especially if the cause hasn’t been released. (But I’ve even seen them do it if a cause is known - Cancer? The vaccine caused the cancer! Car accident? The vaccine made them magnetic which pulled the other car to them! Yes, literally seen that one.)

I’m curious to know what happened too but I feel like ultimately it isn’t anyone’s business if the family wants to keep it private. I’ve known people who’ve had cancer and didn’t want it to be made public because they didn’t want to be remembered as a sick person or have their whole legacy associated with the disease. So maybe it was something like that.
I agree
A family does not have to announce details about a death. There is so much Covid disinformation on the web that they seize on any death and accuse the Covid vaccine. I bet Chris was vaccinated years ago especially because of her age. I would bet my life the vaccine had nothing to do with her passing. Covid possible but highly doubtful it was a vaccine.

[Nathan]

I agree
A family does not have to announce details about a death. There is so much Covid disinformation on the web that they seize on any death and accuse the Covid vaccine. I bet Chris was vaccinated years ago especially because of her age. I would bet my life the vaccine had nothing to do with her passing. Covid possible but highly doubtful it was a vaccine.

I agree. I expect that Chris was vaccinated and takes excellent care, given her means and access. I doubt highly that we’ll hear that this was due to a vaccine in any way.

[HomerMcvie]

I agree. I expect that Chris was vaccinated and takes excellent care, given her means and access. I doubt highly that we’ll hear that this was due to a vaccine in any way.

If it were true, the media wouldn't allow it to be reported.

[Macfan4life]

If it were true, the media wouldn't allow it to be reported.
This board does not need Mike Pence conspiracies.

[HomerMcvie]

This board does not need Mike Pence conspiracies.

Then you should stop coming here. :woohoo:

[Macfan4life]

Then you should stop coming here. :woohoo:
I am here to set the record straight.
That's all

[HomerMcvie]

I am here to set the record straight.
That's all

You're here to shove "your opinion as fact" down everybody's throat.

:woohoo:

[Macfan4life]

You're here to shove "your opinion as fact" down everybody's throat.

:woohoo:
You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own set of facts.

[HomerMcvie]

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own set of facts.

Pot, meet kettle.

[UnwindedDreams]

Mick's come back to social media to post that he's ready for Christmas.

He was also in Vegas to see Aerosmith last week, but they canceled the show. He also went to see a Beatles Cirque Du Soleil and an art gallery.

At the gallery he said this: “She was just Chris, she was comfortable playing the piano and not very comfortable coming out to the front. She left that up to Stevie.”

[BombaySapphire3]

Mick's come back to social media to post that he's ready for Christmas.

He was also in Vegas to see Aerosmith last week, but they canceled the show. He also went to see a Beatles Cirque Du Soleil and an art gallery.

At the gallery he said this: “She was just Chris, she was comfortable playing the piano and not very comfortable coming out to the front. She left that up to Stevie.”
He must have had complementary tickets.The old shyster is probably nearly broke again. He will find a way to mik more money out of the Fleetwood Mac moniker even if it means getting the old bleating battleaxe and Lindsey to perform onstage together. If John stays retired he will replace him. It is all about the $$$$.

[HomerMcvie]

He must have had complementary tickets.The old shyster is probably nearly broke again. He will find a way to mik more money out of the Fleetwood Mac moniker even if it means getting the old bleating battleaxe and Lindsey to perform onstage together. If John stays retired he will replace him. It is all about the $$$$.
I love you.

Mick is TRASH.

[Karlie]

He must have had complementary tickets.The old shyster is probably nearly broke again. He will find a way to mik more money out of the Fleetwood Mac moniker even if it means getting the old bleating battleaxe and Lindsey to perform onstage together. If John stays retired he will replace him. It is all about the $$$$.

Mick and Stevie seem like the only two left who’d ever want to be on a stage together again. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a tour as “Fleetwood Nicks” sometime in the next couple of years.

ETA: I could see John and Lindsey coming back if they do a one-time tribute show for Christine, but that’s it.

[HomerMcvie]

Mick and Stevie seem like the only two left who’d ever want to be on a stage together again. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a tour as “Fleetwood Nicks” sometime in the next couple of years.

ETA: I could see John and Lindsey coming back if they do a one-time tribute show for Christine, but that’s it.
Featuring the vocals of her backup choral group almost exclusively.

What a sad way for the band of my life to end.

[SteveMacD]

Featuring the vocals of her backup choral group almost exclusively.

What a sad way for the band of my life to end.

I could see them getting someone like Colbie Caillat to sing Christine’s songs. Deep, somewhat honey-tinged voice and has a connection to the band. I could also see them having Donald Fagan come in on keyboards, which Christine would most definitely approve of.

[UnwindedDreams]

I could see them getting someone like Colbie Caillat to sing Christine’s songs. Deep, somewhat honey-tinged voice and has a connection to the band. I could also see them having Donald Fagan come in on keyboards, which Christine would most definitely approve of.
The only reason to me to bring Colbie in would be that she may have met Christine being Ken's child. They could have Sheryl Crow come in too since she inducted the band into the Rock Hall and she plays keys.

I think the right thing to do would be to have Bekka come back and sing Chris' songs.

But would the guitarists be Mike and Neil?

[HomerMcvie]

I think the right thing to do would be to have Bekka come back and sing Chris' songs.


But who is going to sing Stevie's? Oh yeah, her girls. Just like the past 25 years.

[UnwindedDreams]

But who is going to sing Stevie's? Oh yeah, her girls. Just like the past 25 years.

Actually, Stevie's bassist sings with "The Girls" now too!

[SteveMacD]

The only reason to me to bring Colbie in would be that she may have met Christine being Ken's child. They could have Sheryl Crow come in too since she inducted the band into the Rock Hall and she plays keys.

I think the right thing to do would be to have Bekka come back and sing Chris' songs.
Neil Finn rule. Sheryl Crow = Steve Winwood; Bekka Bramlett = Billy Burnette. Colbie only has a couple of hits, her last name is heavily associated with some of Fleetwood Mac’s most critical works, and her husky, understated voice is much better suited for Christine’s songs than either Sheryl or Bekka.

I love Bekka, but she was so radically different from Christine and Stevie that she was able to sing both of their songs and be the only woman in the band. However, I don’t think her soul shouting would compliment Stevie and Lindsey/Neil.

But would the guitarists be Mike and Neil?
Unless Stevie and Irving can bury the hatchet with Lindsey. Last we heard, that wasn’t optimistic. Then again, $$$$$.

[The Catdancer]

Mick and Stevie seem like the only two left who’d ever want to be on a stage together again. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a tour as “Fleetwood Nicks” sometime in the next couple of years.

ETA: I could see John and Lindsey coming back if they do a one-time tribute show for Christine, but that’s it.

I agree. John seems to be pretty much done. I don't think he wants to do it anymore. Like you said, maybe for a one time tribute. I suggest Yvon Elliman to sing Christine's songs. I think she could pull it off. But Azoff and friends (Mick, Stevie) might not agree with that because she's not a big name.

[SteveMacD]

I agree. John seems to be pretty much done. I don't think he wants to do it anymore. Like you said, maybe for a one time tribute. I suggest Yvon Elliman to sing Christine's songs. I think she could pull it off. But Azoff and friends (Mick, Stevie) might not agree with that because she's not a big name.

I'm sure they know Yvonne. She was one of Eric Clapton's backup singers in the '70s before Saturday Night Fever.

[HomerMcvie]

Actually, Stevie's bassist sings with "The Girls" now too!

The more, the merrier, when you no longer have range.

[HomerMcvie]

Neil Finn rule. Sheryl Crow = Steve Winwood; Bekka Bramlett = Billy Burnette. Colbie only has a couple of hits, her last name is heavily associated with some of Fleetwood Mac’s most critical works, and her husky, understated voice is much better suited for Christine’s songs than either Sheryl or Bekka.

I love Bekka, but she was so radically different from Christine and Stevie that she was able to sing both of their songs and be the only woman in the band. However, I don’t think her soul shouting would compliment Stevie and Lindsey/Neil.


Unless Stevie and Irving can bury the hatchet with Lindsey. Last we heard, that wasn’t optimistic. Then again, $$$$$.

They should just let it die. PLEASE, just let it die. It's over, Mick, it's over.

[SteveMacD]

They should just let it die. PLEASE, just let it die. It's over, Mick, it's over.

It’s not necessarily just Mick, it’s also Irving and Stevie.

Mick likes the money and could always use the work. Irving now has the chance to really remake Fleetwood Mac into his own image, and Stevie benefits from having the band to fall back on. Maybe they’ll have integrity, but it depends on $$$$$.

[UnwindedDreams]

It’s not necessarily just Mick, it’s also Irving and Stevie.

Mick likes the money and could always use the work. Irving now has the chance to really remake Fleetwood Mac into his own image, and Stevie benefits from having the band to fall back on. Maybe they’ll have integrity, but it depends on $$$$$.
Harry Styles is part of Azoff's Management. But I think Harry joining FM would be him doing a favor for them.

But it seems it's over now. Stevie is co-headlining football stadiums with Billy Joel. Even though there are tons of tickets available for some shows, she doesn't need Fleetwood Mac now.

[reebokandlace]

…..she doesn't need Fleetwood Mac now.



I agree…the fact is, Stevie has not “needed” Fleetwood Mac since 1982.

[UnwindedDreams]

I agree…the fact is, Stevie has not “needed” Fleetwood Mac since 1982.
Yes, though being in FM helped her from 2003 till American Horror Story in 2014/Harry Styles publicly becoming friends with her in 2015.

But I believe had she not done the drug abuse in 85, she could have said goodbye to Fleetwood Mac forever and had consistent mega success for entire career.

[vivfox]

She doesn't need Fleetwood Mac now.
That's true but I feel she likes to tour with them every few years.

I agree…the fact is, Stevie has not “needed” Fleetwood Mac since 1982.

Well actually she has. In the mid 1990's her career was over as a solo artist. She played on a pier in a Florida marina for about 300 people. Getting back together with FM in 1997 revitalized her career.

[SteveMacD]

I agree…the fact is, Stevie has not “needed” Fleetwood Mac since 1982.

Oh, I disagree.

Stevie needs Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac can play to a scale that Stevie on her own just can’t. Stevie as a solo artist has to partner with other artists or has to play casinos and venues like House of Blues. Fleetwood Mac is an arena band all by themselves. Stevie’s solo career benefits from her being a member of Fleetwood Mac.

I mean, McCartney is massive on his own, but if it had been an option, he absolutely would have gone back to The Beatles. It’s just a completely different beast.

[BombaySapphire3]

Well actually she has. In the mid 1990's her career was over as a solo artist. She played on a pier in a Florida marina for about 300 people. Getting back together with FM in 1997 revitalized her career.

To be fair all things Fleetwood Mac were in the crapper by the mid `1990s . The Time album did not even make the Billboard 200 and this for a band that had once ruled atop the same for more than half a year. Lindsey had released a wildly critically acclaimed solo album that also flopped. They all desperately needed each other and had no problem copying their old rivals the Eagles to get out of their respective holes.

[UnwindedDreams]

Oh, I disagree.

Stevie needs Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac can play to a scale that Stevie on her own just can’t. Stevie as a solo artist has to partner with other artists or has to play casinos and venues like House of Blues. Fleetwood Mac is an arena band all by themselves. Stevie’s solo career benefits from her being a member of Fleetwood Mac.

I would say you're correct if it's Stevie solo pre-2016. After On With the Show, Stevie did not need Fleetwood Mac. She was booked in arenas for her 24 Karat Gold Tour because of the momentum from the On With the Show Tour, 2 major appearances on American Horror Story, two 2014 Tonight Show appearances, 2 major tv appearances with Lady Antebellum, Adele and Florence Welch sharing backstage Instagram photos with her, and her friendship with Harry Styles becoming public. The Pretenders brought in ticketbuyers too for the 24 Karat Gold Tour, like Neil Finn did for FM, but mostly Stevie filled the seats.

Stevie just sold out 27 dates of 10,000 - 23,000 capacity amphitheaters. Played for festivals that may've had 100,000 attending (Jazzfest and Bonnaroo)

I'm wondering now if the name Stevie Nicks is bigger than Fleetwood Mac.
She'll be playing football stadiums next year. Sales may be better with Stevie playing the stadiums than if it were FM.

If Lindsey came back would it actually sell more tickets than if it were FM with Mike and Neil? Maybe if they marketed it like a once in a lifetime event. But Lindsey now is playing venues that are 1,000-2,000 tops and they're not all sell outs or multiple nights at a venue.

[SteveMacD]

I would say you're correct if it's Stevie solo pre-2016. After On With the Show, Stevie did not need Fleetwood Mac. She was booked in arenas for her 24 Karat Gold Tour because of the momentum from the On With the Show Tour, 2 major appearances on American Horror Story, two 2014 Tonight Show appearances, 2 major tv appearances with Lady Antebellum, Adele and Florence Welch sharing backstage Instagram photos with her, and her friendship with Harry Styles becoming public. The Pretenders brought in ticketbuyers too for the 24 Karat Gold Tour, like Neil Finn did for FM, but mostly Stevie filled the seats.

Stevie just sold out 27 dates of 10,000 - 23,000 capacity amphitheaters. Played for festivals that may've had 100,000 attending (Jazzfest and Bonnaroo)

I'm wondering now if the name Stevie Nicks is bigger than Fleetwood Mac.
She'll be playing football stadiums next year. Sales may be better with Stevie playing the stadiums than if it were FM.
Again, though, she partners with other artists. In 2016-17, she toured with The Pretenders. When they weren’t on the bill, Stevie played much smaller venues. The stadium tour is with Billy Joel, who appears to be getting top billing. Fleetwood Mac since 1997 plays arenas and large amphitheaters without another artist on the bill. Stevie doesn’t have that on her own.

If Lindsey came back would it actually sell more tickets than if it were FM with Mike and Neil? Maybe if they marketed it like a once in a lifetime event. But Lindsey now is playing venues that are 1,000-2,000 tops and they're not all sell outs or multiple nights at a venue.
I honestly don’t know. Crowded House plays larger venues and Mike will forever be Tom Petty’s musical partner. They’d move tickets. However, Lindsey returning now would be more profound in light of Christine’s passing.

[UnwindedDreams]

Again, though, she partners with other artists. In 2016-17, she toured with The Pretenders. When they werenÂ’t on the bill, Stevie played much smaller venues. The stadium tour is with Billy Joel, who appears to be getting top billing. Fleetwood Mac since 1997 plays arenas and large amphitheaters without another artist on the bill. Stevie doesnÂ’t have that on her own. True.


I honestly donÂ’t know. Crowded House plays larger venues and Mike will forever be Tom PettyÂ’s musical partner. TheyÂ’d move tickets. However, Lindsey returning now would be more profound in light of ChristineÂ’s passing.
Lindsey returning would be profound but I think like you said the narrative from Irving and Stevie, and I'll add the media, is that Lindsey was so bad that they couldn't bear being on stage with him again.

Vanessa Carlton would probably be considered. But that would not allow Lindsey to return since she tweeted that Lindsey beat Stevie.

[SteveMacD]

Vanessa Carlton would probably be considered.

I really don’t hear how her voice would be a good fit for Christine’s songs, though. It was pretty easy to imagine Neil Finn singing something like “Second Hand News.” I can’t imagine Vanessa doing “You Make Loving Fun” or “Say You Love Me.”

[cbBen]

I'm wondering now if the name Stevie Nicks is bigger than Fleetwood Mac.

She doesn't even have to be bigger, just big enough that splitting the dough four or five ways* makes no sense relative to playing on her own.

That's why she had the power to give them the ultimatum. In retrospect she may even wonder whether she should have agreed to the 2018-19 tour.

*even if they were to give her a bigger cut

[SteveMacD]

She doesn't even have to be bigger, just big enough that splitting the dough four or five ways* makes no sense relative to playing on her own.

That's why she had the power to give them the ultimatum. In retrospect she may even wonder whether she should have agreed to the 2018-19 tour.

*even if they were to give her a bigger cut

Not necessarily. Fleetwood Mac tickets are about twice the price and they don’t have to share with another act. And, because Fleetwood Mac is a bigger and more international draw, they can do larger extended tours than she can on her own. That’s why she needs Fleetwood Mac.

[UnwindedDreams]

I really don’t hear how her voice would be a good fit for Christine’s songs, though. I can’t imagine Vanessa doing “You Make Loving Fun” or “Say You Love Me.”
I hear it and she has range too. I could hear Colbie too. Her voice is lower than Vanessa's.

[Karlie]

The discussion of who would sing Christine’s songs is so depressing. It’s the same reason why I hated the RRHOF tribute to Linda Ronstadt - when someone had such a unique and incredible voice, hearing others sing their songs doesn’t really add anything, just reminds you of what you’re missing.

Never in my life have I heard another singer who made me think, “This voice reminds me of Christine’s,” and part of her uniqueness was a mysterious quality that made even the most saccharine lyrics sound not-cheesy. I just don’t know who else could do that. Threw up in my mouth a little at Sheryl Crow. (Stevie would also probably try to get the Haim sisters in there. They did a cover of Hold Me and it was very boring.)

The only two people who come to mind as maybe being able to pull it off would be Bonnie Raitt (very different sounding voice but similar energy and blues background) and Florence Welch (the most similar voice I can think of).

Right now, the only person I’d actually want to hear singing her songs is Lindsey, if he were to transpose them into his range.

[SteveMacD]

The discussion of who would sing Christine’s songs is so depressing.
Christine passing is depressing. The debate over who sings her songs means we all want to hear her songs live. That’s an incredible legacy.

[The Highwayman]

To me, Fleetwood Mac is finished now that Christine has passed. 55 years is a good long run but now it's over. It has to be. It's monumentally sad, but I just don't see how you continue on without her. I doubt John and Stevie would want to. It's done. I'm wasn't too keen on a future of Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey, and now it's just not acceptable without Christine in the world.

[Karlie]

Christine passing is depressing. The debate over who sings her songs means we all want to hear her songs live. That’s an incredible legacy.

Absolutely. My ideal scenario would be a one-off tribute event where a bunch of different artists who were influenced by Christine each choose one of her songs to perform onstage with Mick, John, Stevie, and Lindsey. They’d interpret her songs in their own styles, like what Keith Urban did, rather than try to sound like her original versions. But if the idea of who sings her songs happens in the context of Stevie/Mick/Irving hiring someone for a full tour as Fleetwood Mac, it’s a hard no from me.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Mick and Stevie seem like the only two left who’d ever want to be on a stage together again. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a tour as “Fleetwood Nicks” sometime in the next couple of years.

ETA: I could see John and Lindsey coming back if they do a one-time tribute show for Christine, but thatÂ’s it.

For some reason I just don't see John ever playing again. He sold all his basses at that auction, he's not in great health, and Chris is gone. I just have a feeling he is finished, and has shut that door.

I would imagine that Chris's older brother was with her, as they were very close... And maybe Dan, as they seemed to have a close relationship as well.. John Perfect is 83 years old right now, so maybe Dan was helping get him to the hospital etc during all that awful time.

I also have to confess that part of me would like to believe that maybe John was with her as well. They were like family. If her brother etc knew things were looking very bad on Saturday, they could have informed him as to the severity of the situation. He would have had time to get there... As well as time to get back for that wretched auction.

Back in 1995,we used to email pretty regularly, as FM weren't doing much of anything w the flop of Time. But I clearly remember when Mick's sister died of cancer in October, he was devastated-- he said that even though they knew it was coming, it was still a shocker. I remember i sent him a lovely poem that we had got from marty's synagogue, at some service....about life being a journey, and death a destination, which he appreciated.

Obviously his relationship with Chris was a thousand times closer than with Susan Fleetwood. I can't fathom that if he knew she was dying, that he wouldn't go there. i guess he's older, and now a bit frail in terms of health, and it's a long flight, so who knows. and i guess it also depends on how much the family shared. but unless i hear otherwise, in my heart i want to believe that he was there.

--Lis

[HomerMcvie]

I was looking through recent tour pics a couple nights ago, and noticing how frail John looked. I can't imagine he wants to continue playing now. Maybe a one off, but nothing more than that.

[The Catdancer]

I'm sure they know Yvonne. She was one of Eric Clapton's backup singers in the '70s before Saturday Night Fever.

Right. I forgot about that. Than maybe they do know her.