Stevie Nicks and Billy Joel concert

[bwboy]

Music legends Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks, two of the most loved and universally respected entertainers of all time, announce one unforgettable evening of live music at AT&T Stadium on Saturday, April 8, 2023. The spectacular one-night-only show marks the first time the two have ever performed on the same stage in Texas.

Tickets go on sale November 11.

[Nicks Fan]

Based on her instagram post it seems more dates are coming. I would expect 15-20 shows total but who knows maybe they will do 25-50 throughout April - August.

I’d go see this. I’ve never seen Billy Joel before.

[BombaySapphire3]

Another boomer fleecing scheme . and Stevie is prolific compared to Joel..he has not put out an album of new material since the early 1990s.:laugh:

[bombaysaffires]

so who is the headliner--- Billy Joel?

Interesting that she would agree to be the....well, I'm sure they'll call her the co-headliner, but let's face reality.... someone has to go first and open for the other one. So is she opening for him?

It's surely good money, and for the right money she'll share the bill with whomever. Not that she can't do that, but... after the whole top of the bill with The Pretenders, interesting.

[Nicks Fan]

I think Billy will be the headliner. I think it will be like the Rod Stewart tour. She’ll open and play for 75 minutes or so and he will do a full set and they sing some songs together. Tickets won’t be cheap though.

[Macfan4life]

I hate stadium concerts. Bad sound, band seats and weather.
Stevie will probably be the opener. Oh gosh she's gonna do her 24KG setlist again :eek:

Both these acts are huge draws. Mick is in tears thinking about the amount of money Stevie will make.

[bwboy]

I wonder if they’ll do a duet? I can’t see Billy singing Tom Petty’s part in Stop Dragging My Heart Around, but I could see him singing Leather and Lace.

However, a better song for them to sing might be Whenever I Call You Friend. That would be quite the surprise. I think vocally, Billy would be great on that song, plus it’s always a treat when a song like that is put on the setlist.

If there really are more dates possibly scheduled for next year, Stevie should change the setlist. Adding this song would be a good start.

[Macfan4life]

I wonder if they’ll do a duet? I can’t see Billy singing Tom Petty’s part in Stop Dragging My Heart Around, but I could see him singing Leather and Lace.

However, a better song for them to sing might be Whenever I Call You Friend. That would be quite the surprise. I think vocally, Billy would be great on that song, plus it’s always a treat when a song like that is put on the setlist.

If there really are more dates possibly scheduled for next year, Stevie should change the setlist. Adding this song would be a good start.
Dream on silly dreamer. No way Stevie could handle the vocal of Whenever I call You Friend. Thats a very high range :eek:

Billy is far less arrogant than Rod. I cant believe how disrespectful he was to Stevie. He never set foot on her stage. Stevie had to come out on his stage to sing one of her songs "Leather and Lace" and him botching the lyrics as he read them from the monitor showed how much he thought of Stevie and her music.

As a fan, these kinds of shows are a travesty because they are mass marketed to the minions who just want to hear the hits. Stevie will probably have a shortened set as an opener like she did with Rod. But this is what its about. Cash grab tours make tons of money. We are so thankful for Buck/Vie where most of a new album was performed in front of small gatherings.
Just reminds everyone that Stevie does not need Fleetwood Mac. Sadly they "need" her to fill seats. Even with her ridiculous cut of 40% of Mac tour proceeds, she makes far more on her solo tours.

Homer is frantically waiting for a Nashville date. The scarf is tied around the top hat and ready to go! She's refreshing on Ticketmaster now.

[UnwindedDreams]

I think she'll do the same setlist she's doing now. We're not going to hear Think About It, I Can't Wait, Rooms On Fire, and Talk To Me live again.

Weird that they didn't announce the whole tour. Interesting she did a song with The Rocket Man last year and now she's touring with The Piano Man!

[HomerMcvie]

Homer is frantically waiting for a Nashville date. The scarf is tied around the top hat and ready to go! She's refreshing on Ticketmaster now.

$he played Nashville a couple of weeks ago. I can literally walk to the venue in a few minutes. I didn't care to attend. Btw, it was the same venue where I was front row for BuckVie, pushing the dozen roses
I bought for Christine against her toeses. That was my LAST FM show. The old goat got Lindsey fired, and that was the end of the band of my life.

[Nicks Fan]

Nashville May 19 and LA March 10 added

[Macfan4life]

Nashville May 19 and LA March 10 added
Homer's walls are flaming
***sending the capes to the cleaners***

[HomerMcvie]

Homer's walls are flaming
***sending the capes to the cleaners***

I'll buy some Preparation H. My cape is staying in mothballs. :p

[Macfan4life]

Here are more dates. I like that its not all stadiums. Its arenas and even Hard Rock Casino. Fans will always get a better experience in a smaller indoor venue. Good grief a Sheryl Crow appearance :eek:

Nov 11

Fri • 5:30pm

Atlanta, GA

Mercedes-Benz Stadium

ATLive - Billy Joel, Lionel Richie, Sheryl Crow


Nov 23

Wed • 8:00pm

New York, NY

Madison Square Garden

Billy Joel


Dec 10
Sat • 7:00pm

Richmond, AU

Melbourne Cricket Ground

Billy Joel


Dec 19

Mon • 8:00pm

New York, NY

Madison Square Garden

Billy Joel


Jan 13, 2023

Fri • 8:00pm

New York, NY

Madison Square Garden

Billy Joel


Jan 27, 2023

Fri • 8:00pm

Hollywood, FL

Hard Rock Live - Hollywood

Billy Joel


Feb 14, 2023

Tue • 8:00pm

New York, NY

Madison Square Garden

Billy Joel

Mar 10, 2023

Fri • 7:00pm

Inglewood, CA

SoFi Stadium

Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks


Mar 26, 2023

Sun • 8:00pm

New York, NY

Madison Square Garden

Billy Joel


Apr 8, 2023

Sat • TBD

Arlington, TX

AT&T Stadium

Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks

May 19, 2023

Fri • 7:00pm

Nashville, TN

Nissan Stadium

Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks


Jul 7, 2023

Fri • 2:00pm

London, GB

Hyde Park

Billy Joel

[jmn3]

I'll buy some Preparation H. My cape is staying in mothballs. :p

Big talker. We all know you have your mock Stand Back shawl sitting in Woolite and are practicing your frankenbok twirls.

[jmn3]

Billy Joel puts on a hell of a show although I’m going off the one show I attended probably over 15 years ago and what I’ve seen of him over the years in videos. I believe like all the others in that age bracket, he’s a lot less animated on stage and singing in much lower keys than he used to. I’d almost be half tempted to see this given how good of a show Billy does and how his songbook is full of classics. But alas, it ain’t coming here and I’m not planning/booking travel to see septuagenarians anymore.

I’m curious where they’ll duet. Leather and Lace seems likely. But what song of his? New York State of Mind? Some of the lyrics of Big Shot would be on point.

[HomerMcvie]

Big talker. We all know you have your mock Stand Back shawl sitting in Woolite and are practicing your frankenbok twirls.

Window peeping is RUDE. Mind ya bidness!:lol:

[bwboy]

BBut alas, it ain’t coming here and I’m not planning/booking travel to see septuagenarians anymore.

I’m curious where they’ll duet. Leather and Lace seems likely. But what song of his? New York State of Mind? Some of the lyrics of Big Shot would be on point.

I would see Billy Joel despite his age, I don’t expect older people to quit performing because they’re not as agile as they were 20 years ago. I saw Dolly Parton before the pandemic and she was great. Well, I thought she was great, even though she didn’t use a screen and she didn’t move around like she used to. Just like people saying Lindsey was more subdued this last tour. I’m thrilled he, Dolly, Stevie, Billy, Elton John, Pat Benatar, Diana Ross etc are still performing.

As to possible duets, I know one song Macfan4life would love to hear- Two Kinds of Love, originally performed by Stevie and Bruce Hornsby. Being a piano man, that would seem an obvious choice for Billy, except it was a bomb as a single.

[Macfan4life]

I would see Billy Joel despite his age, I don’t expect older people to quit performing because they’re not as agile as they were 20 years ago. I saw Dolly Parton before the pandemic and she was great. Well, I thought she was great, even though she didn’t use a screen and she didn’t move around like she used to. Just like people saying Lindsey was more subdued this last tour. I’m thrilled he, Dolly, Stevie, Billy, Elton John, Pat Benatar, Diana Ross etc are still performing.

As to possible duets, I know one song Macfan4life would love to hear- Two Kinds of Love, originally performed by Stevie and Bruce Hornsby. Being a piano man, that would seem an obvious choice for Billy, except it was a bomb as a single.
And it was a bomb live too. It was horrible in an arena and a stadium would be worse. I bet they don't perform on each other's stage. But who knows. I see Billy singing SDMHA more than leather and lace.

[Macfan4life]

Window peeping is RUDE. Mind ya bidness!:lol:
Add a little Downy to the final rinse spin.

[HomerMcvie]

Add a little Downy to the final rinse spin.

I hear that you're soft enough to not get work.

[bwboy]

And it was a bomb live too. It was horrible in an arena and a stadium would be worse. I bet they don't perform on each other's stage. But who knows. I see Billy singing SDMHA more than leather and lace.

I heard the live version from her tour in Texas and it actually sounded great. I think Two Kinds of Love would be a great choice, but since it’s so unknown, it just seems unlikely.

BTW, I saw on the back of the Stand Back collection, for disc 2 which has mostly duets, every song either says ‘with or featuring’ Tom Petty, Sheryl Crow, Kenny Loggins, etc but Two Kinds of Love doesn’t mention Bruce Hornsby at all.

Does anybody have any idea why his name was left off? Seems very odd.

[UnwindedDreams]

Here are more dates. I like that its not all stadiums. Its arenas and even Hard Rock Casino. Fans will always get a better experience in a smaller indoor venue. Good grief a Sheryl Crow appearance :eek:

Nov 11

Fri • 5:30pm

Atlanta, GA

Mercedes-Benz Stadium

ATLive - Billy Joel, Lionel Richie, Sheryl Crow


I'd have been interested in a Stevie Nicks/Lionel Richie or Janet Jackson/Stevie Nicks concert tour.

Something different instead of a soft rock show.

[Macfan4life]

I heard the live version from her tour in Texas and it actually sounded great. I think Two Kinds of Love would be a great choice, but since it’s so unknown, it just seems unlikely.

BTW, I saw on the back of the Stand Back collection, for disc 2 which has mostly duets, every song either says ‘with or featuring’ Tom Petty, Sheryl Crow, Kenny Loggins, etc but Two Kinds of Love doesn’t mention Bruce Hornsby at all.

Does anybody have any idea why his name was left off? Seems very odd.
You must have been doing shrumes. I like the song Two Kinds of Love but OMG it was cringeworthy live. The music was good and Stevie did a good job but her duet partner was auditioning for American Idol 15 years in advance. He was trying to do Mariah Carey before she was known. In her klonopin haze she could not see the disaster that it was.

[bwboy]

You must have been doing shrumes. I like the song Two Kinds of Love but OMG it was cringeworthy live. The music was good and Stevie did a good job but her duet partner was auditioning for American Idol 15 years in advance. He was trying to do Mariah Carey before she was known. In her klonopin haze she could not see the disaster that it was.

Dude, I hate mushrooms!

Your description of the male singer was spot on, but I understand no guy in her band is going to sing any of her duets well, so my expectations are automatically lower. Maybe I should have said Stevie sounded fantastic on the song. I recall Waddy singing Stop Dragging My Heart in the past and while it might not have been cringeworthy, it sure wasn’t good.

[Macfan4life]

Dude, I hate mushrooms!

Your description of the male singer was spot on, but I understand no guy in her band is going to sing any of her duets well, so my expectations are automatically lower. Maybe I should have said Stevie sounded fantastic on the song. I recall Waddy singing Stop Dragging My Heart in the past and while it might not have been cringeworthy, it sure wasn’t good.
Waddy cant sing for sure. As much as I love Chrissie Hynde, I did not care for her on SDMHA. In some ways Waddy was so bad it was cool that it gave the song a raw edge. I also did not care for Stevie's vocal coach singing Leather and Lace. Just too polished for my tastes. But no doubt he could sing.
Believe it or not I think Billy Joel could get into SDMHA and Leather and Lace.

[GoldDustOrphan]

I just saw their Instagram posts confirming they plan to “five to seven shows.” Joel will keep performing solo in-and-around their double-bill shows.

I saw her at the Xfinity Center (aka Great Woods) Sept. 19, and the set was a crowd-pleaser, but for a crowd 50-70,000 strong - not all diehard fans-, she will need to juice up her set. Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Rhiannon, Landslide, Gypsy, Edge, Stop Draggin', Stand Back, If Anyone Falls are sure things.

Soldier's Angel has to go. Same for Enchanted, even though I know it's one of the songs that rests easily in her vocal comfort zone. When I saw her, she had cut Soldier & Moonlight, because there was an impending lightning storm and she actually started the show early.

Shows that followed, cut Rock & Roll, Moonlight and re-added Soldier. For What It's Worth will probably stay in the set, but at least it's a very familiar song. Still, as someone who has seen her live about 25-30 times, I don't want cover songs. At Great Woods, there were 3 covers in a 16-song set. FWIW, Rock & Roll, and Free Fallin'. FF has grown tiresome for me.

She should really re-examine Talk to Me, Leather & Lace, Sara, Seven Wonders & After the Glitter. I know I Can't Wait isn't going to ever happen again, but I loved it on the RAL tour.

Her duet with Joel could be "Needles & Pins," which was a Billboard Top 40 hit (peaked at #37 on the Hot 100) for her & Tom P. in early 1986. I still have the 45. I know, not likely.

[Macfan4life]

I just saw their Instagram posts confirming they plan to “five to seven shows.” Joel will keep performing solo in-and-around their double-bill shows.

I saw her at the Xfinity Center (aka Great Woods) Sept. 19, and the set was a crowd-pleaser, but for a crowd 50-70,000 strong - not all diehard fans-, she will need to juice up her set. Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Rhiannon, Landslide, Gypsy, Edge, Stop Draggin', Stand Back, If Anyone Falls are sure things.

Soldier's Angel has to go. Same for Enchanted, even though I know it's one of the songs that rests easily in her vocal comfort zone. When I saw her, she had cut Soldier & Moonlight, because there was an impending lightning storm and she actually started the show early.

Shows that followed, cut Rock & Roll, Moonlight and re-added Soldier. For What It's Worth will probably stay in the set, but at least it's a very familiar song. Still, as someone who has seen her live about 25-30 times, I don't want cover songs. At Great Woods, there were 3 covers in a 16-song set. FWIW, Rock & Roll, and Free Fallin'. FF has grown tiresome for me.

She should really re-examine Talk to Me, Leather & Lace, Sara, Seven Wonders & After the Glitter. I know I Can't Wait isn't going to ever happen again, but I loved it on the RAL tour.

Her duet with Joel could be "Needles & Pins," which was a Billboard Top 40 hit (peaked at #37 on the Hot 100) for her & Tom P. in early 1986. I still have the 45. I know, not likely.
I Cant Wait would be a great opener. It does not need to have the disco swishes. It can be performed full rock version. It does not have high vocals so her range should be able to do it.
She mentioned in an interview many years ago when she was practicing for the Vegas shows that it was practiced but did not translate live very well. Its not an overly complicated song if you tone down all the funky stuff.

[GoldDustOrphan]

"I Cant Wait would be a great opener."

Yes, it would be.

I love the alternate vocal takes.

Dropbox link to all the single edits, remixes and ALTERNATE VOCAL takes:
Alternate vocal takes #2, 3 & 4 are the ones you absolutely want.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/c8qfruh1x7mhhs6y8sazc/h?dl=0&rlkey=ezdffpp9l90kb00v91fw5083s

[UnwindedDreams]

I just saw their Instagram posts confirming they plan to “five to seven shows.” Joel will keep performing solo in-and-around their double-bill shows.

I saw her at the Xfinity Center (aka Great Woods) Sept. 19, and the set was a crowd-pleaser, but for a crowd 50-70,000 strong - not all diehard fans-, she will need to juice up her set. Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Rhiannon, Landslide, Gypsy, Edge, Stop Draggin', Stand Back, If Anyone Falls are sure things.

Soldier's Angel has to go. Same for Enchanted, even though I know it's one of the songs that rests easily in her vocal comfort zone. When I saw her, she had cut Soldier & Moonlight, because there was an impending lightning storm and she actually started the show early.

Shows that followed, cut Rock & Roll, Moonlight and re-added Soldier. For What It's Worth will probably stay in the set, but at least it's a very familiar song. Still, as someone who has seen her live about 25-30 times, I don't want cover songs. At Great Woods, there were 3 covers in a 16-song set. FWIW, Rock & Roll, and Free Fallin'. FF has grown tiresome for me.

She should really re-examine Talk to Me, Leather & Lace, Sara, Seven Wonders & After the Glitter. I know I Can't Wait isn't going to ever happen again, but I loved it on the RAL tour.

Her duet with Joel could be "Needles & Pins," which was a Billboard Top 40 hit (peaked at #37 on the Hot 100) for her & Tom P. in early 1986. I still have the 45. I know, not likely.
I think Enchanted has been in her set ever since the Enchanted Tour. It's fun for her to sing, even though it's not a hit song.

I didn't think she'd do Seven Wonders in a solo set, but who knows if FM will ever tour again so it's her song. I don't know get why she doesn't do Sara in her solo set considering she did it in 2007.

So the Billy shows will definitely have: Stand Back, Edge of Seventeen, Stop Draggin' My Heart Around, Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman, Outside the Rain, Dreams, Gypsy, Landslide, If Anyone Falls, Wild Heart/Bella Donna, and Enchanted.
If she's given a full set, the surprise songs will be the three covers: For What It's Worth, Free Falling, and Rock and Roll, as well as Leather and Lace (with Sharon and Marilyn), Rooms On Fire, and I think as you pointed out, After The Glitter Fades.

[UnwindedDreams]

August 5 at Columbus Ohio Football Stadium.
Marketed as "Playing All The Hits":laugh:

I guess FM can't do a tour next year if Stevie's packing the stadiums.

[sue]

I don’t think they should tour….they are too old.
It would kill at least one of them.
But 2 maybe 3 humongous concerts….(I don’t know the big stadiums, in the US, sorry) that would be a fitting, ending solution
Record them and put out the best clips to make a farewell concert.

[snroxman]

Billy and Stevie - a great combination! As far as what they'd do together? Since Billy's band has performed "Whole Lotta Love" in the past (Feb 2022?), I could almost see this and "Rock and Roll" as candidates for "together" songs. Now THAT would make a memory for everyone attending these shows.

[Storms123]

August 5 at Columbus Ohio Football Stadium.
Marketed as "Playing All The Hits":laugh:

I guess FM can't do a tour next year if Stevie's packing the stadiums.

Mick must be fuming with fury

[Macfan4life]

Mick must be fuming with fury
He'll be in the parking lot with a tin can begging for coins. He may even set up a makeshift booth selling Biddy's britches.

[David]

I’m curious where they’ll duet. Leather and Lace seems likely. But what song of his? New York State of Mind? Some of the lyrics of Big Shot would be on point. Maybe they should do one of his big anthems or one of the big Fleetwood Mac anthems.


We Didn’t Start the Fire
Uptown Girl
Say Goodbye to Hollywood
Go Your Own Way


Not exactly duets but songs where Billy and Stevie and all the backup singers just go hogwild at the end of both individual sets. Cheesy, but it’s what puts the chili in the mole.

[DownOnRodeo]

Maybe they should do (...) We DidnÂ’t Start the Fire

Can you imagine Stevie trying to get the words to We Didn't Start the Fire right? She'd probably just riff her own autobiographical version, then halfway through give up and launch into one of her interpretive dances.


Desert child, Stephanie, you can call me Stevie
Arizona, Greyhound, moving to a new town
California Dreaming, shacking up with Lindsey
Fleetwood Mac, doing crack, letting all the fans down

Welsh witches, waitressing, cleaning lady, woe is me
Leaving Fritz, Rumours hits, I'm Queen of Rock and filthy rich
Tusk flops, Lindsey irks, why must he be such a jerk?
Bella Donna on the floor, I can't take it any more!

I didn't fire Lindsey
But my walls were burning
When he started smirking
I didn't fire Lindsey
But now he is gone
I can ramble on and on and on....

[UnwindedDreams]

Maybe they should do one of his big anthems or one of the big Fleetwood Mac anthems.


We Didn’t Start the Fire
Uptown Girl
Say Goodbye to Hollywood
Go Your Own Way


Not exactly duets but songs where Billy and Stevie and all the backup singers just go hogwild at the end of both individual sets. Cheesy, but it’s what puts the chili in the mole.
I like Vienna, The Longest Time, and The Stranger for Stevie to join on.
Billy has a high falsetto so I can hear him on Dreams. Perhaps Gold Dust Woman and Landslide with Billy too.

But she did do a co-headlinging tour with Chris Isaak in 2007 and they never did a duet. So who knows if they'll duet!

[David]

Welsh witches, waitressing, cleaning lady, woe is me
Leaving Fritz, Rumours hits, I'm Queen of Rock and filthy rich
Tusk flops, Lindsey irks, why must he be such a jerk?
Bella Donna on the floor, I can't take it any more!

I didn't fire Lindsey
But my walls were burning
When he started smirking

https://cdn-acpnj.nitrocdn.com/SDkrhncnWeetGsYGlzwaPnbfptfOeIKk/assets/static/optimized/rev-00d8738/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/17-Laughing-Really-Hard-Gif.gif

[HomerMcvie]

Go Your Own Way
[/LIST]


Stevie adding GYOW to her solo shows???

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[jmn3]

Stevie adding GYOW to her solo shows???

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

She would 100% have the kahunas to do that. And she would totally rework the packing up verse.

Imagine how low and monotonous she would have to sing it…it would be such a mess I’d want to see it

[BombaySapphire3]

She would 100% have the kahunas to do that. And she would totally rework the packing up verse.

Imagine how low and monotonous she would have to sing it…it would be such a mess I’d want to see it

Yeah and she complained about the high parts when she was still in her twenties :lol: Delorous O'Riordan did a great job singing it on the otherwise pretty dismal Legacy album but Stevie in her current voice ..noooooo.

[UnwindedDreams]

A ticket is just under $400 face value for 30-40 rows back. Wonder if they'll change the prices if the sales are bad.

[jbrownsjr]

Can you imagine Stevie trying to get the words to We Didn't Start the Fire right? She'd probably just riff her own autobiographical version, then halfway through give up and launch into one of her interpretive dances.


Desert child, Stephanie, you can call me Stevie
Arizona, Greyhound, moving to a new town
California Dreaming, shacking up with Lindsey
Fleetwood Mac, doing crack, letting all the fans down

Welsh witches, waitressing, cleaning lady, woe is me
Leaving Fritz, Rumours hits, I'm Queen of Rock and filthy rich
Tusk flops, Lindsey irks, why must he be such a jerk?
Bella Donna on the floor, I can't take it any more!

I didn't fire Lindsey
But my walls were burning
When he started smirking
I didn't fire Lindsey
But now he is gone
I can ramble on and on and on....

Best post ever!!!

[HomerMcvie]

She would 100% have the kahunas to do that. And she would totally rework the packing up verse.

Imagine how low and monotonous she would have to sing it…it would be such a mess I’d want to see it

After all, she did write it, and teach Lindsey the guitar parts. She's such a visionary...

[Villavic]

I love Baby Grand, though Stevie singing Ray Charles part, I'm not sure if it would sound great.

[bwboy]

I saw a setlist for Billy’s concert on FB yesterday, and it had Rock n Roll by Led Zeppelin as the encore.

Maybe that will be the song Billy and Stevie do as a duet?

[jmn3]

The more I think about it, Don’t Stop would make a ton of sense. Stevie sings Chris’s part and would naturally do her 2003-13 ad lib on the second verse. Billy would sing Lindsey’s part and play Chris’s keys.

[UnwindedDreams]

The more I think about it, Don’t Stop would make a ton of sense. Stevie sings Chris’s part and would naturally do her 2003-13 ad lib on the second verse. Billy would sing Lindsey’s part and play Chris’s keys.

Stevie sang it for President Clinton
https://youtu.be/KFHp0fYkkGY

[bwboy]

Stevie sang it for President Clinton
https://youtu.be/KFHp0fYkkGY

Wow, that was actually really good. Thanks for sharing that video, UnwindedDreams. When jmn3 first mentioned Don’t Stop as a possible song for Stevie and Billy to perform together, I thought he was crazy, but after seeing this video, I’m all for it. If Stevie and her band could perform it this well, I don’t doubt for a second that Billy Joel on piano and vocals would knock it out of the park!

Still, I can’t help but think that they should perform an actual Stevie song, too.

[jmn3]

Wow, that was actually really good. Thanks for sharing that video, UnwindedDreams. When jmn3 first mentioned Don’t Stop as a possible song for Stevie and Billy to perform together, I thought he was crazy, but after seeing this video, I’m all for it. If Stevie and her band could perform it this well, I don’t doubt for a second that Billy Joel on piano and vocals would knock it out of the park!

Still, I can’t help but think that they should perform an actual Stevie song, too.

Oh, definitely a little crazy, but this one just seems to fit perfectly. It hits a few things:

Extremely well known song
Setup for two vocalists to trade off
Fun, audience singalong song
And for the sinister among us: Stevie planting her flag on top of Fleetwood Mac mountain. I’m Stevie f’n Nicks - that’s my band, and I’ll sing any damn song I wish. Peter Green? Done. Christine McVie? Done. All while avoiding the potential for too much drama by performing a Lindsey penned song.


And of course, it’s a piano driven song from the outset and she’ll be on stage with the damn piano man.

[The Catdancer]

Can you imagine Stevie trying to get the words to We Didn't Start the Fire right? She'd probably just riff her own autobiographical version, then halfway through give up and launch into one of her interpretive dances.


Desert child, Stephanie, you can call me Stevie
Arizona, Greyhound, moving to a new town
California Dreaming, shacking up with Lindsey
Fleetwood Mac, doing crack, letting all the fans down

Welsh witches, waitressing, cleaning lady, woe is me
Leaving Fritz, Rumours hits, I'm Queen of Rock and filthy rich
Tusk flops, Lindsey irks, why must he be such a jerk?
Bella Donna on the floor, I can't take it any more!

I didn't fire Lindsey
But my walls were burning
When he started smirking
I didn't fire Lindsey
But now he is gone
I can ramble on and on and on....

Absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laugh :lol: Brilliant!!

[Macfan4life]

With every tour we always think they are going to be creative and do new things. We are always wrong. So much speculation. My money is its going to be a typical Stevie set with no Billy and then Billy performing his set without Stevie.
And Stevie will pretty much do her 24k Gold set that she mostly did these past months.
NOTHING EVER CHANGES

Remember about 10 years ago when Stevie was preparing to play Vegas. She did interviews how she was going to possibly use a cordless mic because the stage was so big and she was practicing all sorts of songs that have not been done for a long time. What did we end up with? The same set she always does.

[vivfox]

With every tour we always think they are going to be creative and do new things. We are always wrong.

Remember about 10 years ago when Stevie was preparing to play Vegas. She did interviews how she was going to possibly use a cordless mic because the stage was so big and she was practicing all sorts of songs that have not been done for a long time. What did we end up with? The same set she always does.

10 years ago? LOL. More like 17 years ago. Almost 18. It was 2005 and I was one of the suckers who believed her lies and flew to Vegas only to be highly disappointed with the same ole boring set. The only thing new she did do was introduce the video backdrop to her performances and has kept even some of those same videos today.

[Macfan4life]

10 years ago? LOL. More like 17 years ago. Almost 18. It was 2005 and I was one of the suckers who believed her lies and flew to Vegas only to be highly disappointed with the same ole boring set. The only thing new she did do was introduce the video backdrop to her performances and has kept even some of those same videos today.
the days go by like a strand in the wind.......
I begin again

Time makes you bolder, children get older and I'm getting older too


OMG yes, the older you get the less you realize 17 years ago seemed almost like yesterday :lol:

Sorry you were suckered to fly all the way to Vegas. In those days she was probably doing the worst set of her entire career which made it that much worse!

Nothing can be saved here.

[BigAl84]

Oh the Vegas debacle. She was on Jim Ladd's radio show for a big interview where she talked up the stage design being unlike anything she's ever done before...she talked it up for over an hour! The show kicks off and it's literally a black stage and two screens.

That was the beginning of the end for me. I quite buying solo tickets after the Summer 2005 tour. She redeemed herself a little bit in recent years with Crying In The Night/Bella Donna/Wildheart...but after her bullsh*t, refusing to work with Lindsey & Christine and then being pretty sour about the project, it was a hard pass for me. Last time I saw her was with FM in 2015.

[bwboy]

10 years ago? LOL. More like 17 years ago. Almost 18. It was 2005 and I was one of the suckers who believed her lies and flew to Vegas only to be highly disappointed with the same ole boring set. The only thing new she did do was introduce the video backdrop to her performances and has kept even some of those same videos today.

Man, that sucks! I can see why you were disappointed. Sorry that happened to you.

Although Stevie (and FM, for the most part) tend to do similar set lists tour after tour, I do remember the Trouble in Shangri-La and Enchanted tours were fantastic. Not a great track record by any means, but at least the last FM and solo tours did have some pleasant surprises. With Covid still around, I suspect she and her band won’t change her set much at all, because they probably don’t rehearse as much, but I hope she does. She really needs to bring back Rooms on Fire, Talk to Me, Leather and Lace, and maybe something unexpected like Blue Lamp or even Battle of the Dragon. Also, keep the FM songs to a minimum- quit Gypsy and do either Rhiannon or Gold Dust Woman, but not both.

[sue]

Billy Joel says he could sing Landslide..
And Stevie may be singing Just the way you are..

I wonder what the duet will be ?

[BombaySapphire3]

Billy Joel says he could sing Landslide..
And Stevie may be singing Just the way you are..

I wonder what the duet will be ?

Just the way you are? They would have to pay me to listen to her croak that out now..ghastly.

[Macfan4life]

I wanna see Stevie sing We Didn't Start The Fire

[UnwindedDreams]

Doesn't the Stevie song they do have to be Stop Draggin' My Heart Around, Leather and Lace or Two Kinds of Love?

Two Kinds of Love would be amazing with Billy Joel's brass.

For his song, I can hear Stevie singing Tell Her About It.

[jmn3]

I wanna see Stevie sing We Didn't Start The Fire

They’d have to slow the tempo IN HALF.

Also she’d ad lib her way into something historical and change some words to be less “harsh”. “JFKKKKKK went away..but came to me in my dream anyway…wellllllll”

[jmn3]

Doesn't the Stevie song they do have to be Stop Draggin' My Heart Around, Leather and Lace or Two Kinds of Love?

Two Kinds of Love would be amazing with Billy Joel's brass.

For his song, I can hear Stevie singing Tell Her About It.

Well that definitely won’t happen - Billy hasn’t played that one in 35+ years!

[Nicks Fan]

So far based on Twitter posts I’ve seen video clips for Gypsy, GDW, Free Fallin, SDMHA with Billy and Standback.

Her vocals on Gypsy are cringeworthy.

[Nicks Fan]

https://twitter.com/uclabrewn1/status/1634407948943503360?s=46&t=otKOqqdYfUeBGNsjgmwhng

https://twitter.com/uclabrewn1/status/1634406058574909441?s=46&t=otKOqqdYfUeBGNsjgmwhng

https://twitter.com/uclabrewn1/status/1634404482632253440?s=46&t=otKOqqdYfUeBGNsjgmwhng


https://twitter.com/uclabrewn1/status/1634401944763785216?s=46&t=otKOqqdYfUeBGNsjgmwhng

https://twitter.com/uclabrewn1/status/1634398076420100096?s=46&t=otKOqqdYfUeBGNsjgmwhng

[Nicks Fan]

Fans were delayed getting in because of traffic and apparently Stevie had issues too so she didn’t start on time. It’s also raining heavily there I’m told.

[sleepless child]

Why is she still doing Free Falling! Enough already.
Same old set list. Same look. I think I'll pass on seeing her this tour.

And her tribute to Chris is dedicating Landslide to her?.

[UnwindedDreams]

Why is she still doing Free Falling! Enough already.
Same old set list. Same look. I think I'll pass on seeing her this tour.

And her tribute to Chris is dedicating Landslide to her?.
I think bringing Sara back was really cool. At the same time, it almost makes me teary eyed because Stevie bringing Sara back into her solo set marks the end of Fleetwood Mac. Stevie always considered that song as belonging in the FM set and in the last 20 years, she only did it solo for a SoundStage taping.

I feel blessed to have seen Christine play Sara in 2017.

Now I have no idea why she brought Fall From Grace back. If she's looking for something from the 2000s on, I think Ghosts Are Gone, In Your Dreams, or 24 Karat Gold would have been better for her fans who have seen her a lot.

[SteveMacD]

At the same time, it almost makes me teary eyed because Stevie bringing Sara back into her solo set marks the end of Fleetwood Mac.

I thought that was the death of Christine McVie.

[HomerMcvie]

I thought that was the death of Christine McVie.

Oh, I think Stevie fans Shirley don't see it that way. After all......

[BigAl84]

Wow that clip of Gypsy is bad, real bad….bad even for 2023 standards.

[jmn3]

Wow that clip of Gypsy is bad, real bad….bad even for 2023 standards.

I don’t understand why she continues to put Gypsy in her set year after year. She hasn’t sounded good on it since The Dance tour.

[greendaze5]

I'm going to the Toronto show in June, but I have to say, the more or less same old set list is a downer.

Why did she even bother asking for song requests on Twitter? :shrug:

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Stevie Nicks at SoFi Stadium - Set List - March 10, 2023

1. “Outside the Rain”
2. “Dreams”
3. “If Anyone Falls”
4. “Stop Draggin' My Heart Around” (with Billy Joel)
5. “Fall From Grace”
6. “For What It’s Worth”
7. “Gypsy”
8. “Wild Heart”
9. “Bella Donna”
10. “Stand Back”
11. “Free Fallin'’”
12. “Gold Dust Woman”
13. “Sara”
14. “Edge of Seventeen”
15. “Rhiannon”
16. “Landslide”

[Macfan4life]

Its pretty much the same set she has been doing the last 5 years. Sara being the only surprise and maybe Fall from Grace. Its funny because on the other thread I gave a pipe dream setlist and I put Sara right in the middle. I always disliked a solo version of Sara but I thought it would be a nice addition. Surprised she did it. I never understood Fall From Grace. Granted its probably in the better half of songs on TISRL but that is not saying much. I think I hate the song is because of her performance in 2001 at the Blockbuster awards show. I forget if it was Sheryl or Stevie that said they plotted to play a song to blow everyone out of their seats and picked this song. Its not a rocker at all and the music track is rather tame and bland. It does not even have much guitar or a guitar solo in it. Its a slightly faster or up-tempo song that she normally performs but that's not saying much. She has much better "rockers" to put in her set.
I always liked Rhiannon and Landslide as encores. When she did that in 1991, I thought it was the perfect encore set. This set is heavy in Mac tunes and she performed every one of her Mac singles except Seven Wonders. We all assumed she would play For What Its Worth. So I assume Sara and Fall From Grace are the surprises?
I will applaud Billy for not being an egomaniac like Rod Stewart. He stepped on her stage and sang a song with her.
Lastly, my call about Chris's tribute was right and appropriate. A Landslide dedication is all that's needed. Some were getting way too creative thinking she was going to perform Dont Stop with Billy or dig into Think About It. Come on Stevie fans. You should know better than anyone that NOTHING EVER CHANGES.

Billy really does add an edge to SDMHA. I like that she gave him the entire second verse to sing. He seems to almost flub at :58 and has to look at the monitor for lyrics. Come on now. The lyrics are not that tough. But kudos for Billy. He definitely gave some power to the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA-5slyWCBw

[UnwindedDreams]

Its pretty much the same set she has been doing the last 5 years. Sara being the only surprise and maybe Fall from Grace. Its funny because on the other thread I gave a pipe dream setlist and I put Sara right in the middle. I always disliked a solo version of Sara but I thought it would be a nice addition. Surprised she did it. I never understood Fall From Grace. Granted its probably in the better half of songs on TISRL but that is not saying much. I think I hate the song is because of her performance in 2001 at the Blockbuster awards show. I forget if it was Sheryl or Stevie that said they plotted to play a song to blow everyone out of their seats and picked this song. Its not a rocker at all and the music track is rather tame and bland. It does not even have much guitar or a guitar solo in it. Its a slightly faster or up-tempo song that she normally performs but that's not saying much. She has much better "rockers" to put in her set.
I always liked Rhiannon and Landslide as encores. When she did that in 1991, I thought it was the perfect encore set. This set is heavy in Mac tunes and she performed every one of her Mac singles except Seven Wonders. We all assumed she would play For What Its Worth. So I assume Sara and Fall From Grace are the surprises?
I will applaud Billy for not being an egomaniac like Rod Stewart. He stepped on her stage and sang a song with her.
Lastly, my call about Chris's tribute was right and appropriate. A Landslide dedication is all that's needed. Some were getting way too creative thinking she was going to perform Dont Stop with Billy or dig into Think About It. Come on Stevie fans. You should know better than anyone that NOTHING EVER CHANGES.

Billy really does add an edge to SDMHA. I like that she gave him the entire second verse to sing. He seems to almost flub at :58 and has to look at the monitor for lyrics. Come on now. The lyrics are not that tough. But kudos for Billy. He definitely gave some power to the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA-5slyWCBw
You were right about Sara and I think I said she wouldn't do it because she only brought it back once in recent years for a taping. If she did Angel, then that would have been freaking nuts!

[UnwindedDreams]

I thought that was the death of Christine McVie.
I did say I was blessed to have heard Christine play Sara. And I'll add the opening to Sara.

Fleetwood Mac was FM to me during the Say You Will and Extended Play years too.

I went to four 2018 Tour shows however to me FM at that show was Mick, John, Chris, and Stevie because Mike and Neil weren't playing new music.

What I meant by marking the end was that I see Stevie adding Sara to her solo set a sign that Stevie, Mick, John, even Lindsey will never be on stage together again as Fleetwood Mac.

[jmn3]

I never understood Fall From Grace. Granted its probably in the better half of songs on TISRL but that is not saying much. I think I hate the song is because of her performance in 2001 at the Blockbuster awards show. I forget if it was Sheryl or Stevie that said they plotted to play a song to blow everyone out of their seats and picked this song. Its not a rocker at all and the music track is rather tame and bland. It does not even have much guitar or a guitar solo in it. Its a slightly faster or up-tempo song that she normally performs but that's not saying much. She has much better "rockers" to put in her set.
I always liked Rhiannon and Landslide as encores. When she did that in 1991, I thought it was the perfect encore set. This set is heavy in Mac tunes and she performed every one of her Mac singles except Seven Wonders. We all assumed she would play For What Its Worth. So I assume Sara and Fall From Grace are the surprises?
I will applaud Billy for not being an egomaniac like Rod Stewart. He stepped on her stage and sang a song with her.
Lastly, my call about Chris's tribute was right and appropriate. A Landslide dedication is all that's needed. Some were getting way too creative thinking she was going to perform Dont Stop with Billy or dig into Think About It. Come on Stevie fans. You should know better than anyone that NOTHING EVER CHANGES.

Billy really does add an edge to SDMHA. I like that she gave him the entire second verse to sing. He seems to almost flub at :58 and has to look at the monitor for lyrics. Come on now. The lyrics are not that tough. But kudos for Billy. He definitely gave some power to the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA-5slyWCBw

Ha - I actually like FFG and that Blockbuster Award performance is precisely the reason why. :laugh:

As for the tribute - you’re exactly right in that it’s obvious nothing was going to change and anything interesting would be too much change. I strongly believe a rollicking Don’t Stop played with Billy instead of the traditional L&L or SDMHA duet would have been a hell of a lot better tribute to the life and legacy of Christine than a dedication of Landslide ending the show in tears. I don’t begrudge her or anyone crying and being devastated at Chris’s death but to me this is/was an opportunity to celebrate her supposed bff’s legacy. Don’t Stop is designed for two singers, Stevie and her band can and have done the song justice before, Billy Joel playing the keys, honoring the legendary Christine F**king McVie by playing her signature tune - IMO, would’ve been a lot better than what she did.

But at least she’s still trudging out that tired and boring version of Free Fallin’ to honor Tom.

[Macfan4life]

I did say I was blessed to have heard Christine play Sara. And I'll add the opening to Sara.

Fleetwood Mac was FM to me during the Say You Will and Extended Play years too.

I went to four 2018 Tour shows however to me FM at that show was Mick, John, Chris, and Stevie because Mike and Neil weren't playing new music.

What I meant by marking the end was that I see Stevie adding Sara to her solo set a sign that Stevie, Mick, John, even Lindsey will never be on stage together again as Fleetwood Mac.
In 2018, I dont think Chris played the opening to Sara. Sadly she was relinquishing most of her keyboard playing by then :(

[BigAl84]

I have to say, Billy singing stop dragging is way better than waddy’s vocal.

OF COURSE landslide is a photo montage tribute to Christine. She did the same thing when her dad passed away…why would she possibly do anything different lmao.

Im afraid to hear her 2023 version of FFG…it was on the decline the last time she had it in her set. The Blockbuster awards performance was amazing and probably the best live performance of it.

Her voice is the square peg and the set list choices are the round hole. I really wish she would become innovative and find different arrangements that would use her limited range in a flattering way that fits the material.

[jmn3]

I have to say, Billy singing stop dragging is way better than waddy’s vocal.

OF COURSE landslide is a photo montage tribute to Christine. She did the same thing when her dad passed away…why would she possibly do anything different lmao.

Im afraid to hear her 2023 version of FFG…it was on the decline the last time she had it in her set. The Blockbuster awards performance was amazing and probably the best live performance of it.

Her voice is the square peg and the set list choices are the round hole. I really wish she would become innovative and find different arrangements that would use her limited range in a flattering way that fits the material.

Honestly not too bad for 2023: https://youtu.be/WKi37f0Sfh8

[Macfan4life]

Even Billy's fans call this the dud of the night. Calling it the "bathroom break" and her voice adds nothing but an irritation to the song. Some things sound good on paper but execution fails. This maybe could have been a small theater performance but a large stadium it fails. Stevie used to be able to wrap her voice around anyone's. She cant do that anymore. But IMHO this is Billy's fault, not hers. Its his song and it was not meant for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIoebNGfls

[jmn3]

Even Billy's fans call this the dud of the night. Calling it the "bathroom break" and her voice adds nothing but an irritation to the song. Some things sound good on paper but execution fails. This maybe could have been a small theater performance but a large stadium it fails. Stevie used to be able to wrap her voice around anyone's. She cant do that anymore. But IMHO this is Billy's fault, not hers. Its his song and it was not meant for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIoebNGfls

I don’t know how they decide these things but the same could be said for the awful version of Young Turks she did with Rod Stewart years ago. I’m sure it was a song of his that Stevie liked and maybe it sounded good on paper but it came off terrible. I don’t know what song of Billy’s would work - New York State of Mind maybe?

[Macfan4life]

I don’t know how they decide these things but the same could be said for the awful version of Young Turks she did with Rod Stewart years ago. I’m sure it was a song of his that Stevie liked and maybe it sounded good on paper but it came off terrible. I don’t know what song of Billy’s would work - New York State of Mind maybe?
I dont think Billy has duets in his catalog so I guess he tried to find something that worked. He should have been creative and done one of her songs with Stevie on back up or maybe done Leather and Lace. I think Billy on Kind of Woman would have been draw dropping with Stevie on backup.

[BigAl84]

It doesn’t work well because she doesn’t have any softness or elasticity left in her voice. It’s either zero or 100, nothing in between.

[sue]

It doesn’t work well because she doesn’t have any softness or elasticity left in her voice. It’s either zero or 100, nothing in between.

That is so true…if only she would sing softer, she would sound so much better.
Than the strident almost tuneless voice she uses these days..it must be easier on her vocal chords too.

[Macfan4life]

It doesn’t work well because she doesn’t have any softness or elasticity left in her voice. It’s either zero or 100, nothing in between.
Its the perfect example of how cash grab concert promoters have no clue except filling seats. Let's put 2 big artists together in a stadium. Each artist does different kind of music but they can each share the stage for a song together.
Billy actually worked on SDMHA. But Stevie sounded like a cat trapped in a microwave during Billy's ballad. Its not her fault. Billy has no duets and tried to make her fit somewhere. It just does not work. Both look uncomfortable. While Billy was having fun during SDMHA he still had a look of unease. But at least he did walk on her stage unlike the douche Rod Stewart.
The worst part of all of this is all the great songs Stevie ignores on her tours and we get this instead. She does not have many tours left in her and we're still getting Free Falling and Petty tributes.
Sad :(
Poor Billy. It sort of reminds of that Laverne and Shirley episode where during the Shotz talent show they had to find something for the boss's son to do in someone else's act. Maybe We Didn't Start The Fire could have used some cowbell or something?

[Steviegirl]

Its the perfect example of how cash grab concert promoters have no clue except filling seats. Let's put 2 big artists together in a stadium. Each artist does different kind of music but they can each share the stage for a song together.
Billy actually worked on SDMHA. But Stevie sounded like a cat trapped in a microwave during Billy's ballad. Its not her fault. Billy has no duets and tried to make her fit somewhere. It just does not work. Both look uncomfortable. While Billy was having fun during SDMHA he still had a look of unease. But at least he did walk on her stage unlike the douche Rod Stewart.
The worst part of all of this is all the great songs Stevie ignores on her tours and we get this instead. She does not have many tours left in her and we're still getting Free Falling and Petty tributes.
Sad :(
Poor Billy. It sort of reminds of that Laverne and Shirley episode where during the Shotz talent show they had to find something for the boss's son to do in someone else's act. Maybe We Didn't Start The Fire could have used some cowbell or something?

Agree with almost everything in this thread. I've boycotted the band since Lindsey's firing and felt so much anger about everything associated with them; nevertheless, I briefly considered going to this show in Philadelphia, but after seeing the clips, I definitely won't. From the yelling of the lyrics, half-assed job on Eo17, TIRED and boring setlist, lumbering around on-stage like you're scared you're going to break something, TP tribute, which at this point has become ghoulish, and overall malaise of the performance--hard pass. She looks uncomfortable and embarrassed to be working as an opening act, (I know--we're pretending it's not like that :rolleyes:), and the duet on Billy's song was downright painful to watch. Christine's passing has been so hard, and I'm still so angry with Stevie that I don't think any tribute to our beloved Christine would please me, but I found "Landslide" underwhelming and not right. Rant over. Sorry. I'll end with someone's very wise words of, "You've ruined the band of my life," and just leave it at that.:(

[UnwindedDreams]

I can't believe the newest song in her setlist is 21 years old. I know Billy's is probably 30 years old but Billy's said for 25 years that he's done writing. Stevie always says she wants to make another album.

Hopefully at her Seattle show this week she'll add either a new single or at least Starshine and Belle Fleur. Heck even If You Were My Love and it's depressing flow.

For What It's Worth and Free Falling have no place in her set. I still am dumbfounded that she said Show Them The Way was her third best song and she never performed it.

[jmn3]

I still am dumbfounded that she said Show Them The Way was her third best song and she never performed it.

Because even the queen of narcissism knows that is pure BS to say that and if she did play that droning pile of horse pucky it would immediately get launched to Siberia never to be heard from again before the next show. It’s not worth rehearsing it and prepping it for the set and she knows it.

[jmn3]

She does not have many tours left in her and we're still getting Free Falling and Petty tributes.
Sad :(

Tom died almost 5.5 years ago. She’s toured several times solo and with Fleetwood Mac during that time not to mention we all went through a freaking pandemic. I’m not saying get over it, but, also, get over it. It’s absolutely ridiculous that she’s still doing Free Falling and putting on such a spectacle about Petty. Flip the circumstances and you think Tom would be doing Edge of 17 in every one of his shows with a montage of Stevie playing on the screens?

She’s in the bonus years here and instead of digging into her own catalog of solo hits and album tracks not to mention Fleetwood Mac songs outside of the main 5, she remains stuck on duds like If Anyone Falls, boring cover songs, and lethargic versions of Gypsy and Rhiannon. Although from what I see, the people who go see her would be content to hear her read the 1992 yellow pages and wax poetic about 1968 San Francisco so I guess she knows her audience.

[jmn3]

In 2018, I dont think Chris played the opening to Sara. Sadly she was relinquishing most of her keyboard playing by then :(

Chris, unfortunately, took off into hiding for some of the worst years that any adult could do. Aside from the one solo album she worked on, from age ~55-70 she took a sabbatical from performing allowing all of her chops to fall by the wayside. Not just the physical act of playing the keys but traveling and touring, gelling with a band on stage, just having that basic agility to put into a performance what she would want to in her prime.

By the time she came back, I can’t imagine how difficult it was for her to try and get back into that groove. So I think you saw less and less of her being involved on stage - not playing a lot of those intros she created, relying far more on the backing musicians than she would have before. I just think it’s a natural evolution for septuagenarians but especially when you let everything sort of fall by the wayside for nearly 20 years in your 50’s and 60’s.

[Macfan4life]

Tom died almost 5.5 years ago. She’s toured several times solo and with Fleetwood Mac during that time not to mention we all went through a freaking pandemic. I’m not saying get over it, but, also, get over it. It’s absolutely ridiculous that she’s still doing Free Falling and putting on such a spectacle about Petty. Flip the circumstances and you think Tom would be doing Edge of 17 in every one of his shows with a montage of Stevie playing on the screens?

She’s in the bonus years here and instead of digging into her own catalog of solo hits and album tracks not to mention Fleetwood Mac songs outside of the main 5, she remains stuck on duds like If Anyone Falls, boring cover songs, and lethargic versions of Gypsy and Rhiannon. Although from what I see, the people who go see her would be content to hear her read the 1992 yellow pages and wax poetic about 1968 San Francisco so I guess she knows her audience.
I applaud her at her age still going on the road. She uses no autotune and no pre-recorded backing tracks like many artists younger than her. She sold her catalog and worth over 100 million. Now would be the time to dig into the vault. But she plays the same, safe set with the same tributes for someone that died almost 6 years ago. But then again, maybe I am asking for too much. At her age, its probably easier to play the same set over and over. Its what she has always done and she wont change. She is doing what the concert promoters want of her. Stevie: Make sure to play all of your Fleetwood Mac single hits. The masses dont know your other stuff.

[sue]

I wouldn’t go to see her with the current set list..
I prefer to just use my memories
However
If she played Angel, well that might be different.
(Even though I live in Hampshire and she never tours the UK)
And I think she could still perform Angel..just about

[UnwindedDreams]

I applaud her at her age still going on the road. She uses no autotune and no pre-recorded backing tracks like many artists younger than her. She sold her catalog and worth over 100 million. Now would be the time to dig into the vault. But she plays the same, safe set with the same tributes for someone that died almost 6 years ago. But then again, maybe I am asking for too much. At her age, its probably easier to play the same set over and over. Its what she has always done and she wont change. She is doing what the concert promoters want of her. Stevie: Make sure to play all of your Fleetwood Mac single hits. The masses dont know your other stuff.
Some of the vocals from this Inglewood show actually sound unnatural, as in too good. But it's probably the sound system for that show or the YouTube audio.

[UnwindedDreams]

Because even the queen of narcissism knows that is pure BS to say that and if she did play that droning pile of horse pucky it would immediately get launched to Siberia never to be heard from again before the next show. It’s not worth rehearsing it and prepping it for the set and she knows it.
Instead she recorded For What It's Worth and called it "her new song."

[bombaysaffires]

Even Billy's fans call this the dud of the night. Calling it the "bathroom break" and her voice adds nothing but an irritation to the song. Some things sound good on paper but execution fails. This maybe could have been a small theater performance but a large stadium it fails. Stevie used to be able to wrap her voice around anyone's. She cant do that anymore. But IMHO this is Billy's fault, not hers. Its his song and it was not meant for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIoebNGfls

so massively slowed down I didn't even recognize the song...

Anyone else notice the awkwardness when he tried to give her a hug when she came onstage? She clearly was trying to avoid it.

And she didn't seem ready to come onstage when he announced her...he said her name and...no Stevie... and he says "Where is she?" and turns around...

I wonder if physically this tour is hard for her... she seems very slow and as someone else said, lumbering onstage, moving so very cautiously.... I also agree that she is the opening act and that has to irritate her on some level... which I'd bet her management tried to soften for her by getting her sh&t tons of money. Which at this point.... really? She's still that motivated by the money??

I also agree with those who are disappointed she doesn't get more inventive with her sets. You'd think at this point she'd be so far beyond giving a sh&t about proving herself and just take some artistic risks... I think of people like Robert Plant or Sting or even Lindsey who say, f*^# it, I'm going to do music I like how I like it, I've got all the platinum records and stadium shows on my CV to prove my success, now I'm doing what *I* want. But this gets back to the fact that pretty early on in her career she sold out for fame and glory and gave up her storytelling art. And she messed up her voice with drugs and partying and all that. I hate to say it, but Lindsey does seem to have a point when he says her whole life is her career and without it she doesn't know wtf to do with herself. Like she doesn't even seem to have her other interests anymore.... painting, or writing or.... whatever. Remember how for years she'd blather on about wanting some time off to just chill and have a life... not that long ago she wanted her trailer in that posh trailer park in Malibu to watch the sea and paint and all that. Then COVID came which you would think would have given her the perfect excuse to do all that at-home stuff she said she wanted, and she hated it no end. The reality is she gave the entirety of who she is over to the business. Sad.

[jmn3]

She's still that motivated by the money??

Hard to believe but I’d say absolutely she is still motivated by the money. She’s created a little organization of hangers on who she likely is fully underwriting some lofty lifestyles. Obviously there’s the band on stage with her but also the crew and everyone involved in putting the tour on not to mention the Karen’s of her world of which I’m sure there are plenty beyond OG Karen (family and otherwise) who she takes care of. All those people who blow smoke up her arse all the time and never tell her no or give honest feedback about anything for fear of ending the gravy train.

[tothegypsy]

Tom died almost 5.5 years ago. She’s toured several times solo and with Fleetwood Mac during that time not to mention we all went through a freaking pandemic. I’m not saying get over it, but, also, get over it. It’s absolutely ridiculous that she’s still doing Free Falling and putting on such a spectacle about Petty. Flip the circumstances and you think Tom would be doing Edge of 17 in every one of his shows with a montage of Stevie playing on the screens?

She’s in the bonus years here and instead of digging into her own catalog of solo hits and album tracks not to mention Fleetwood Mac songs outside of the main 5, she remains stuck on duds like If Anyone Falls, boring cover songs, and lethargic versions of Gypsy and Rhiannon. Although from what I see, the people who go see her would be content to hear her read the 1992 yellow pages and wax poetic about 1968 San Francisco so I guess she knows her audience.

Didn't she cover I Need To Know for decades? A show where she doesn't cover Tom Petty, whether you count SDMHA or not, would be pretty unusual, even before his death.

[UnwindedDreams]

Didn't she cover I Need To Know for decades? A show where she doesn't cover Tom Petty, whether you count SDMHA or not, would be pretty unusual, even before his death.
On the 2008 Tour, Stevie did not play one Tom Petty song in her live show. And on the In Your Dreams Tour, Stevie did not play one Tom Petty song in her live show.

Free Fallin takes up space for Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Long Way To Go.

[tothegypsy]

On the 2008 Tour, Stevie did not play one Tom Petty song in her live show. And on the In Your Dreams Tour, Stevie did not play one Tom Petty song in her live show.

Free Fallin takes up space for Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Long Way To Go.

Fair point about there being a few tours that stood out as exceptions, but I don't think dropping Free Fallin necessarily gets you any of those songs you're looking to hear. She could just as easily replace it with her Led Zeppelin cover or something else she's arguably overplayed.

[UnwindedDreams]

Fair point about there being a few tours that stood out as exceptions, but I don't think dropping Free Fallin necessarily gets you any of those songs you're looking to hear. She could just as easily replace it with her Led Zeppelin cover or something else she's arguably overplayed.
I mean I consider Stop Draggin' My Heart Around Stevie's song. So by my opinion, the 24 Karat Gold Tour didn't have a Tom song. Her 2005 Tour didn't have I Need To Know if I recall, but it did have Circle Dance and Rock and Roll.

Last year's tour was crazy with covers!

[bombaysaffires]

it feels like at this point the only way she can get new songs into her set is to do covers. And then, when fans complain, she interprets that as "The fans only want the hits, they don't like new songs" rather than the real reality which is, 'the fans don't want to hear me sing other people's songs, they want to hear me sing MY OWN songs'...:mad:

Clearly she works to maintain her ability to sing her biggest hits to the degree she can, but just can't even sing so much of her own material any more...

[bwboy]

Even just a few changes to the set would help immensely- drop Gypsy for Rooms on Fire, Free Falling for Talk to Me, and Gold Dust Woman for I Can’t Wait, and that would have taken the emphasis off of her FM songs and Tom Petty, who would have still been memorialized by Stop Dragging My Heart Around. It’s been so long since she’s played those songs, they’re practically deep cuts at this point!

[UnwindedDreams]

Even just a few changes to the set would help immensely- drop Gypsy for Rooms on Fire, Free Falling for Talk to Me, and Gold Dust Woman for I Can’t Wait, and that would have taken the emphasis off of her FM songs and Tom Petty, who would have still been memorialized by Stop Dragging My Heart Around. It’s been so long since she’s played those songs, they’re practically deep cuts at this point!
Great point. They are. Also I would want Wild Heart + Bella Donna dropped for Nightbird, Landslide dropped for After the Glitter Fades, and For What It's Worth for No Spoken Word or Long Way To Go!

[BigAl84]

It really doesn’t feel right that the Free Falling montage is still happening 5 going on 6 years later. It’s really starting to feel like she’s exploiting her friendship with Tom. It’s turning into the dead friends tour with the Prince tribute, Tom tribute, and now the Christine tribute.

I still can’t wrap my head around why they bother to go into tour rehearsals!? There’s literally no need for her to show up and rehearse anything.

[jmn3]

I feel like there is no chance she’d ever go out and not do Gold Dust, Rhiannon, or Dreams. When was the last time with the Mac or solo she dropped one of those? 1988?

But I agree, some simple tweaks would revitalize her set a bit. Rooms on Fire, Long Way to Go, After the Glitter Fades, Kind of Woman, Angel, Nightbird, or I Can’t Wait have all been great suggestions I’ve seen lately instead of Gypsy, Rhiannon, Free Falling, If Anyone Falls, Outside the Rain, Wild Heart/Bella Donna.

[jmn3]

It really doesn’t feel right that the Free Falling montage is still happening 5 going on 6 years later. It’s really starting to feel like she’s exploiting her friendship with Tom. It’s turning into the dead friends tour with the Prince tribute, Tom tribute, and now the Christine tribute.

I still can’t wrap my head around why they bother to go into tour rehearsals!? There’s literally no need for her to show up and rehearse anything.

At this point it is exploitation. With Prince it ALWAYS was since the idea of some great friendship between them was laughable at best. I’ll give the Christine tribute at this point - that one makes sense.

She knows when pics of Tom come up the audience will eat it up. When the Petty tribute during Free Falling was highlighted in multiple reviews as the high point of the show during the 2018-19 Mac tour, it was cringey and embarrassing but the audience just ate it up like she did a 1986 Stand Back twirl!

[bwboy]

I feel like there is no chance she’d ever go out and not do Gold Dust, Rhiannon, or Dreams. When was the last time with the Mac or solo she dropped one of those? 1988?

But I agree, some simple tweaks would revitalize her set a bit. Rooms on Fire, Long Way to Go, After the Glitter Fades, Kind of Woman, Angel, Nightbird, or I Can’t Wait have all been great suggestions I’ve seen lately instead of Gypsy, Rhiannon, Free Falling, If Anyone Falls, Outside the Rain, Wild Heart/Bella Donna.

She dropped Dreams after a few dates on her 24 Karat Gold tour, which was probably the first tour that she didn’t regularly perform it ever. But your point is well taken, it seems unlikely she would ever drop GDW or Rhiannon even for one tour.

[Macfan4life]

I feel like there is no chance she’d ever go out and not do Gold Dust, Rhiannon, or Dreams. When was the last time with the Mac or solo she dropped one of those? 1988?

But I agree, some simple tweaks would revitalize her set a bit. Rooms on Fire, Long Way to Go, After the Glitter Fades, Kind of Woman, Angel, Nightbird, or I Can’t Wait have all been great suggestions I’ve seen lately instead of Gypsy, Rhiannon, Free Falling, If Anyone Falls, Outside the Rain, Wild Heart/Bella Donna.
Believe it or not but Dreams was dropped the last leg of the 24K Gold tour. I forget what it was replaced with but first solo or Mac concert ever I saw without Dreams. Besides Free Fallin, I cant believe she is still doing the Bella Donna/Wild Heart montage. 7 years now that its been in the set.
I think we are all over critical (including me). These sets are not for us core fans. They are for the concert promoters and the masses who fill the seats. Stevie fulfilled her duty. There is no more Fleetwood Mac but she made sure to play all her Fleetwood Mac hits and many of her solo hits. And she did perform her "new" song.
If any song from the 24K Gold tour should still be in the set is Crying In The Night. I thought it transformed live incredibly well. It fits her vocal range too. Waddy rocks that one out.

[BigAl84]

Believe it or not but Dreams was dropped the last leg of the 24K Gold tour. I forget what it was replaced with but first solo or Mac concert ever I saw without Dreams. Besides Free Fallin, I cant believe she is still doing the Bella Donna/Wild Heart montage. 7 years now that its been in the set.
I think we are all over critical (including me). These sets are not for us core fans. They are for the concert promoters and the masses who fill the seats. Stevie fulfilled her duty. There is no more Fleetwood Mac but she made sure to play all her Fleetwood Mac hits and many of her solo hits. And she did perform her "new" song.
If any song from the 24K Gold tour should still be in the set is Crying In The Night. I thought it transformed live incredibly well. It fits her vocal range too. Waddy rocks that one out.

Isn't the set kind of stale even for the casual fan? A $150-200 minimum to hear almost the same setlist that was played last summer. Every time I think to myself that it's crazy I have not been to a solo Stevie show since 2005, every tour reminds me exactly why that is!

[BigAl84]

At this point it is exploitation. With Prince it ALWAYS was since the idea of some great friendship between them was laughable at best. I’ll give the Christine tribute at this point - that one makes sense.

She knows when pics of Tom come up the audience will eat it up. When the Petty tribute during Free Falling was highlighted in multiple reviews as the high point of the show during the 2018-19 Mac tour, it was cringey and embarrassing but the audience just ate it up like she did a 1986 Stand Back twirl!

Yeah it's gross. It's one thing to pull on people's heart strings with the Stevie Lindsey on stage drama schtick...its another to use the death of a friend to do the same.

[bombaysaffires]

She'll never, ever drop Landslide. It's the big emotional highlight of the evening, everyone (ie younger people) knows it and sings along, and it's still within her range. Not.Gonna.Happen.

[BrownEyedGirl26]

I think as a Stevie fan, and speaking for myself, the most important thing is ending her career on a high while she still can and before she becomes a parody of herself.

It is sad as a fan hearing her being spoken about negatively. Some may say it's too late for that now. Hello Homer and others.

She could focus on her earlier softer harmony voice and not have to strain to sing songs that are too hard for her now.

Cindy Lauper has recently played concerts with Rod Stewart with some negative reviews and this is not what us fans want to hear, as their stars are getting older.

[Macfan4life]

She keeps shortening Edge of 17. I know she dropped the third verse several years ago (the clouds never expect it when it rains but the sea changes colors, etc). That was disappointing since IMHO that's one of my favorite verses she ever wrote. But now she also dropped the second verse (I went today, maybe I will go again tomorrow, the music there was hauntingly familiar). That also is an epic verse. It makes no sense to me because half of the song is instrumental. She should keep both verses and just shorten the ending if its too long. Come on Stevie, this is your most epic song and you are doing it a major disservice. It pains me to watch such an epic song go from the first verse, chorus, to "I hear you in the morning" last verse. Dear Lord :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbKj1I0VJD8

[BLY]

She keeps shortening Edge of 17. I know she dropped the third verse several years ago (the clouds never expect it when it rains but the sea changes colors, etc). That was disappointing since IMHO that's one of my favorite verses she ever wrote. But now she also dropped the second verse (I went today, maybe I will go again tomorrow, the music there was hauntingly familiar). That also is an epic verse. It makes no sense to me because half of the song is instrumental. She should keep both verses and just shorten the ending if its too long. Come on Stevie, this is your most epic song and you are doing it a major disservice. It pains me to watch such an epic song go from the first verse, chorus, to "I hear you in the morning" last verse. Dear Lord :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbKj1I0VJD8


I couldn’t agree more just end the song after the last chorus like the original recording.

[Macfan4life]

I couldn’t agree more just end the song after the last chorus like the original recording.
It makes no sense. Including both verses with chorus would only add 90 seconds to the song. Its like Led Zepplin performing Stairway To Heaven without key verses.
I realize most in that audience did not notice or care. But I wonder why she does it.

[rhiannondontgo]

I wonder if physically this tour is hard for her... she seems very slow and as someone else said, lumbering onstage, moving so very cautiously.

Because she has a broken toe right now - which is also why last night she wore sneakers ($1100 Balenciaga sneakers :laugh: but sneakers nonetheless)

[bombaysaffires]

Because she has a broken toe right now - which is also why last night she wore sneakers ($1100 Balenciaga sneakers :laugh: but sneakers nonetheless)

ah...

pics of the sneaks?

[rhiannondontgo]

ah...

pics of the sneaks?

https://i.imgur.io/5bDy7ps_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[sue]

And hiking gaiters …??

[bombaysaffires]

Thanks for posting the pic!

I don't see the $1000+ price value given they look like many other sneakers. Guess you feel better psychologically wearing a high fashion brand, even if no one else can tell.

I think the legging things are to trick the eye to look sorta like she's wearing her boots... from a distance.

Gawd I hate those skirts, have ever since she began wearing them. Make her look far bigger than she is.... and dumpy.:sorry:

[On Ice]

I agree those two verses in Edge of Seventeen probably her very best writing in her body of solo work, nothing compares or comes close. Live however, I've always been a bit of a detractor on how well she does the song justice. Sure, the amazing instrumental and driving rhythm makes for a great show, but even back to the Bella Donna tour, dropping the "wing" portion to a lower key sucks the life out of the song, in the same vein as "it's only right and me" in Dreams. I have always found this frustrating even going back in my 47 year fan journey, while understanding she can't push her voice there night after night, it just does not work. :sorry:

[sue]

Thanks for posting the pic!

I don't see the $1000+ price value given they look like many other sneakers. Guess you feel better psychologically wearing a high fashion brand, even if no one else can tell.

I think the legging things are to trick the eye to look sorta like she's wearing her boots... from a distance.

Gawd I hate those skirts, have ever since she began wearing them. Make her look far bigger than she is.... and dumpy.:sorry:

I agree about the Bo peep skirt…she is, even though she is heavier these days, still quite a petite lady.
And that particular skirt does nothing for her.
Together, the bo peep skirt, ringlets and hiking gaiters…she looks a blooming fright..

[Macfan4life]

I agree those two verses in Edge of Seventeen probably her very best writing in her body of solo work, nothing compares or comes close. Live however, I've always been a bit of a detractor on how well she does the song justice. Sure, the amazing instrumental and driving rhythm makes for a great show, but even back to the Bella Donna tour, dropping the "wing" portion to a lower key sucks the life out of the song, in the same vein as "it's only right and me" in Dreams. I have always found this frustrating even going back in my 47 year fan journey, while understanding she can't push her voice there night after night, it just does not work. :sorry:
I heard Edge of 17 at the gym this morning and this thread popped into my head. Those epic verses removed is unforgiveable and messing with sacred land. Even in her wild cocaine days and heavily medicated tranquillizer phase she pretty much never forgot a word or phrase. Of course nothing will live up to her 1981 live version. However, this song is so Stevie and defines her as a solo artist. She has her reasons for doing what she does but like I said earlier, imagine the backlash Led Zeppelin would get removing 2 verses from Stairway to Heaven. Yet I feel like the isolated freak that notices it? Just really odd. Its even odder how the song is extended with an extended musical track and her Prince nonsense of doves crying.
Even weirder is when I saw her on the 24K Gold tour. She added this completely new verse to Gold Dust Woman. Not removing words or a verse. It was another whole new verse. Yet she removes her most epic lines from her most epic song.
Stevie, I need to know.
Why?

[bombaysaffires]

I heard Edge of 17 at the gym this morning and this thread popped into my head. Those epic verses removed is unforgiveable and messing with sacred land. Even in her wild cocaine days and heavily medicated tranquillizer phase she pretty much never forgot a word or phrase. Of course nothing will live up to her 1981 live version. However, this song is so Stevie and defines her as a solo artist. She has her reasons for doing what she does but like I said earlier, imagine the backlash Led Zeppelin would get removing 2 verses from Stairway to Heaven. Yet I feel like the isolated freak that notices it? Just really odd. Its even odder how the song is extended with an extended musical track and her Prince nonsense of doves crying.
Even weirder is when I saw her on the 24K Gold tour. She added this completely new verse to Gold Dust Woman. Not removing words or a verse. It was another whole new verse. Yet she removes her most epic lines from her most epic song.
Stevie, I need to know.
Why?


what was this new verse?? :eek: :confused: