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secret love
10-30-2022, 11:31 AM
Hello all,

Long time no post for me. Nothing wrong, just been living a busy life! :blob1:

Anyways, this has probably been done before, but not that I remember that well, so...

Who is your favourite Rumours 5 member and why? Did you used to have a different favourite member and it has now changed for some reason? Or do you love all 5 equally?

My favourite, as you may have guessed by my username, was Stephanie Lynn Nicks. But not anymore. Now, my favourite is John McVie - because he is possibly the only member who is not involved in the drama of firing Lindsey. I enjoyed the 2019 Australian Tour, but I really thinking the chief producer in the studio and long time lead guitarist should have been there. The way in which the band got rid of him was disgusting -- if it wasn't, they wouldn't have had to pay him a massive settlement payment for lost income.

But remember, at the time, John sent Lindsey an email saying "I am sorry but I am told I cannot talk to you." Reading that broke my heart. John is such a kind, gentle soul - and an amazing bass player. He is the only one left, besides maybe his ex-wife Christine McVie, who seems truly humble.

So my favourite is John. I hope he lives a long and happy life and enjoys spending time with his family in what is likely to be his retirement, now.

And you?

Thanks,

James :)

P.S. I'm in a band myself called JENS (our initials) and I know from that limited experience that it can be very painful when one or two members get a big head and think they are more important than the rest.

David
10-30-2022, 02:55 PM
Long time no post for me.Welcome back, James!

Who is your favourite Rumours 5 member and why? Did you used to have a different favourite member and it has now changed for some reason? Or do you love all 5 equally?
I’m going to say that Mick is my favorite Fleetwood Macster. He’s one of the only drummers in music whose style I like. He plays the way he looks, too. He is enormously tall, lanky, and slightly hunched over. His size and body shape give him his playing style and puts him in the right position — angular — to snap that snare and knock that kick. Nobody else in music can play Angel or any of those shuffles (Don’t Stop, Stop Messin’ Round, Get Like You Used to Be) the way Mick does (or did).

Macfan4life
10-30-2022, 03:12 PM
I vote for Chris. She has disappointed me in recent years but she IS Fleetwood Mac. I don't listen much to records prior to 1970. Every song she has recorded with the Mac is good. There are no duds IMHO. I like her grounded style and her Englishness. I always like to hear what she has to say. She has a wicked sense of humor and is pretty tough. I also think she had/has a great voice. Most importantly is I love her style of playing. This is why I like the album Behind The Mask because you hear her play keyboards so much on the album. Like Stevie's distinctive voice, her style of playing stands out. I love all her solo stuff too.
I give John an honorable mention. The quiet one who is just as instrumental to the band as Chris. Its his band after all.

jbrownsjr
10-30-2022, 06:45 PM
Christine hands down my favorite. Love her songs, love her musicianship. Adore her personality.

lbfan
10-30-2022, 08:27 PM
He elevated the talent of everyone in the band and led them to success with his vision and hard work.

aleuzzi
10-30-2022, 11:03 PM
Christine intrigues me the most — and her voice in its prime was so unique and exquisite. Then of course there’s the matter of her songwriting which, though unadventurous, is well-structured and melodically strong. Her songs sound right for her voice, which is quite unusual and therefore the perfect instrument for both pop ditties and moody, sexy ballads.

But you know what? Lindsey’s equally intriguing in different ways. And the rhythm section is killer. And Stevie’s voice in its prime was a wild thing. So, you know, all five…

HomerMcvie
10-31-2022, 12:33 AM
Christine has always been #1, even though she's a company shill when it comes to saving Lindsey or Bob Welch. She'll roll over for the company. I'll always love her, but she needs a spine transplant.

Lindsey is right behind her. HE IS the reason they achieved super stardom. His vision made them.

Mick and $tevie are pathetic liars.

John's okay in my book, but doesn't have much of a spine, either.

sue
10-31-2022, 02:17 AM
I would have to say….Mick and John.
They were there right at the formation.

Other members were introduced and employed in the 55 year history of the band.
Including Christine, Lindsey and Stevie.

The sound of Fleetwood Mac at separate stages in the long age of the band
owes Peter Green and Lindsey Buckingham much.
But Mick and John are Fleetwood Mac.

Villavic
10-31-2022, 08:31 AM
You know, the crowd loves that drama and tension. Yeah? That was what made Fleetwood Mac really popular
Meryl Streep quote. Ricky and the Flash.

No secret I became a Fleetwood Mac fan because of Gypsy/Stevie Nicks, and she could be (was) my favorite member. But right now I'd choose Christine McVie. Somehow I feel she is the most "Fleetwood Mac" member, I mean from a musical point of view, IMHO.

Though I have to say I still enjoy Stevie's and Lindsey's Mac songs. Am I upset with Stevie? Yes, but, though I stop listening Mac songs in 2018 after the fire (I was upset with the whole band actually), I am a Mac fan and still like that music, I started to listenig Fleetwood Mac again after one year.

Would it be right to burn Caravaggio paints because he killed a young man in 1606? I guess no. So after an upset period I started to enjoy Mac music, including Stevie's songs. After, Fleetwood Mac was over in 2018, and any lineup after that, I just don't give a damn.

sue
10-31-2022, 10:36 AM
You know, the crowd loves that drama and tension. Yeah? That was what made Fleetwood Mac really popular
Meryl Streep quote. Ricky and the Flash.

No secret I became a Fleetwood Mac fan because of Gypsy/Stevie Nicks, and she could be (was) my favorite member. But right now I'd choose Christine McVie. Somehow I feel she is the most "Fleetwood Mac" member, I mean from a musical point of view, IMHO.

Though I have to say I still enjoy Stevie's and Lindsey's Mac songs. Am I upset with Stevie? Yes, but, though I stop listening Mac songs in 2018 after the fire (I was upset with the whole band actually), I am a Mac fan and still like that music, I started to listenig Fleetwood Mac again after one year.

Would it be right to burn Caravaggio paints because he killed a young man in 1606? I guess no. So after an upset period I started to enjoy Mac music, including Stevie's songs. After, Fleetwood Mac was over in 2018, and any lineup after that, I just don't give a damn.

I agree, I love most of Stevie’s songs and although I don’t care for her moral values these days….
I still love her songs and nothing will ever change that.
I just don’t care for her nowadays.

BombaySapphire3
10-31-2022, 04:15 PM
Yeah ..Nicks is a mean old crone now. I used to worship her and I'll admit I still listen to the old stuff. She seemed infallible on record until she was 35 or so even if it was largely due to the efforts of others. So a lot of great music there and it was really something to have been a fan of Fleetwood Mac and Nicks back then.

jbrownsjr
10-31-2022, 10:08 PM
Yeah ..Nicks is a mean old crone now. I used to worship her and I'll admit I still listen to the old stuff. She seemed infallible on record until she was 35 or so even if it was largely due to the efforts of others. So a lot of great music there and it was really something to have been a fan of Fleetwood Mac and Nicks back then.

She truly used to know who she was.

aleuzzi
11-01-2022, 08:56 AM
She truly used to know who she was.

Once the solo career took off and she no longer heeded the checks and balances of working with the four others, she pretty much entered a fantasy world. By 1983, she left that earthier, grounded self in her rearview mirror.

jbrownsjr
11-01-2022, 09:18 AM
Once the solo career took off and she no longer heeded the checks and balances of working with the four others, she pretty much entered a fantasy world. By 1983, she left that earthier, grounded self in her rearview mirror.

with a stiletto in her garter!

Macfan4life
11-01-2022, 10:52 AM
with a stiletto in her garter!
along with everything else that she carries

jbrownsjr
11-01-2022, 11:50 AM
along with everything else that she carries

Quite a bit of anger, apparently. :lol:

HomerMcvie
11-01-2022, 01:03 PM
Quite a bit of anger, apparently. :lol:

She's a long distance winner, yet she's still bitter!

Macfan4life
11-01-2022, 01:13 PM
She's a long distance winner, yet she's still bitter!
Its a long way to go.......
I've watched you fly across the world in a golden ball



Have fun tell the world

jbrownsjr
11-01-2022, 01:38 PM
Its a long way to go.......
I've watched you fly across the world in a golden ball



Have fun tell the world

With Golden Braids and dust of gold.

Macfan4life
11-01-2022, 02:27 PM
With Golden Braids and dust of gold.
on that same glass table
this is the path you have chosen

jbrownsjr
11-01-2022, 02:39 PM
[QUOTE=Macfan4life;1278728]on that same glass table
this is tOTE]

And for what it's worth, if anyone falls from grace from that table, they will land in Sly Stone's bedroom.

FuzzyPlum
11-01-2022, 03:06 PM
For all the reasons previously given by everyone else….it has to be Christine McVie. I think she’s ace!!!!
Yeah, like lots of you I was disappointed with her for what happened to Lindsey. Unfortunately in the last 10 years or so she’s been a shadow of her former self. But Christine circa 1980….what a gal. Can thoroughly see what attracted her to DW. Not a single weak song…..ever.

Outside of the 5…..Danny Kirwan. If ever there was somebody who merited a documentary about their life it’s him. Enigmatic.

HomerMcvie
11-01-2022, 03:15 PM
For all the reasons previously given by everyone else….it has to be Christine McVie. I think she’s ace!!!!
Yeah, like lots of you I was disappointed with her for what happened to Lindsey. Unfortunately in the last 10 years or so she’s been a shadow of her former self. But Christine circa 1980….what a gal. Can thoroughly see what attracted her to DW. Not a single weak song…..ever.

Outside of the 5…..Danny Kirwan. If ever there was somebody who merited a documentary about their life it’s him. Enigmatic.

Idk if she ever would've gone against Mick, though. She's loyal to that loser.

Danny's story is just sad. Such a handsome, talented guy. He just wasn't mentally cut out for it. The pressures were just too much for him.

FuzzyPlum
11-01-2022, 03:40 PM
….and why?
….yes, that alone….amazing song!!!

Macfan4life
11-01-2022, 04:51 PM
[QUOTE=Macfan4life;1278728]on that same glass table
this is tOTE]

And for what it's worth, if anyone falls from grace from that table, they will land in Sly Stone's bedroom.
Dont let that golden hair get in your way babe

HomerMcvie
11-01-2022, 11:24 PM
[QUOTE=jbrownsjr;1278729]
Dont let that golden hair get in your way babe

Y'all need to learn how to use the quote feature properly... just sayin'...:p

Macfan4life
11-02-2022, 03:53 AM
[QUOTE=Macfan4life;1278734]

Y'all need to learn how to use the quote feature properly... just sayin'...:p
Would you say that to Bob Dylan?

HomerMcvie
11-02-2022, 10:00 AM
[QUOTE=HomerMcvie;1278739]
Would you say that to Bob Dylan?

Actually, yes. Yes I would.

jbrownsjr
11-02-2022, 11:58 AM
[QUOTE=Macfan4life;1278743]

Actually, yes. Yes I would.

I'm feeling thrown down, by you/him/her/we/they.

HomerMcvie
11-02-2022, 12:42 PM
[QUOTE=HomerMcvie;1278749]

I'm feeling thrown down, by you/him/her/we/they.

But are your walls flaming?

jbrownsjr
11-02-2022, 02:09 PM
[QUOTE=jbrownsjr;1278754]

But are your walls flaming?

If my hmm hmm had Rooms, they'd be on fire.

cbBen
01-02-2023, 07:57 PM
An easy one for me: Lindsey.

Boy were both parties lucky to collaborate with one another. Lindsey and FM would both probably have gone nowhere without one another (unless maybe Lindsey decided to pursue a career in production).

I actually think Stevie was the better writer at first (through the early eighties), but over time Lindsey surpassed her.

He is one of my top five guitarists. As Waddy Wachtel says, he's the best fingerstyle guitarist in the history of rock and roll.

I love his production. I wish he had produced other artists more. Can you imagine him producing, say, Sting or Tom Petty?

He is not a world class singer, but is certainly serviceable to his own material; and knows exactly what touches to add to the material of others (his backing vocal on "Gypsy": "lightning strikes, maybe once maybe twice"; "she was just a wish, she was just a wish"

A difficult guy, I suspect, but a true visionary. "That's All For Everyone" and "Go Your Own Way" from the same artist. He's right when he characterizes different work as "left brain" and "right brain."

I'm surprised "Show You How" didn't become a concert staple. I thought it was a classic the minute I heard it.

What classics has Stevie written since the '90's? "Trouble In Shangri-La?" "Love Is"?

His solo on "Frozen Love" is among the best ever. Another song I'm surprised didn't become a concert staple.

As a guitarist and as a producer he is among the best ever. As a writer and as a singer he became the best in Fleetwood Mac in the long run.

Karlie
01-03-2023, 12:41 AM
I love his production. I wish he had produced other artists more. Can you imagine him producing, say, Sting or Tom Petty?

He is not a world class singer, but is certainly serviceable to his own material; and knows exactly what touches to add to the material of others (his backing vocal on "Gypsy": "lightning strikes, maybe once maybe twice"; "she was just a wish, she was just a wish').


Christine has always been my favorite, but I totally agree with you on these points. When Lindsey played onstage with The Killers, it made me want to see what he could do as a producer with bands like them.

I also think his singing is underrated. There’s so much to praise about his guitar virtuosity that people don’t often mention that he actually has a lovely voice and it’s stayed very consistent over the decades.