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Macfan4life
09-19-2022, 04:41 PM
Chritine McVie just tweeted..
"Stay tuned for an exciting announcement!"


What could that mean? :blob1::blob2::]


Please dont let it be a crummy commerical

bwboy
09-19-2022, 04:57 PM
1) A follow up to Songbird, featuring more of Christine’s top ten hit?

2) Stevie’s Rhiannon movie with Harry Styles is finally starting production?

3) Lindsey is rejoining FM for a worldwide tour?

Macfan4life
09-19-2022, 05:11 PM
1) A follow up to Songbird, featuring more of Christine’s top ten hit?

2) Stevie’s Rhiannon movie with Harry Styles is finally starting production?

3) Lindsey is rejoining FM for a worldwide tour?
Or maybe we are getting a second video from the album Songbird :eek:

jbrownsjr
09-19-2022, 06:08 PM
She's going to re-re-mix the songs and put out a new running order with a tour to follow. :D

SteveMacD
09-19-2022, 07:08 PM
1) Another repackaging of Rumours.

2) Full album of orchestral remakes of her classic Fleetwood Mac songs with original vocals.

3) 2018 live album/DVD.

UnwindedDreams
09-19-2022, 07:40 PM
1) Another repackaging of Rumours.

2) Full album of orchestral remakes of her classic Fleetwood Mac songs with original vocals.

3) 2018 live album/DVD.
I'd love #3 just to hear the professional audio of Mike's playing with John's and to have the new band member versions of classic FM songs professionally released. But it is about 4 years since the tour, and I think there's a better chance of Stevie playing "Show Them The Way" live than a 2018 tour live album + DVD.

2014 would've been perfect for them to release an album and dvd, being 10 years from Live in Boston, but they let that go.

I think #2 will be it.

aleuzzi
09-19-2022, 07:49 PM
The exciting announcement could be:

1. She is going to do a YouTube appreciation video for the new season of Narcos.

2. Stevie has promised to stop doing an insulting imitation of Christine’s Brummie accent.

3. The remaining Mac members are now open to play at a bar mitzvah near you.

….

Honestly, whatever it is, I just don’t want to get my hopes up. I have a sinking suspicion it’s underwhelming.

Macfan4life
09-20-2022, 04:17 AM
I don't know if she is giving a clue or not but the statement was given along with a photo of the Rumours back cover and asking what ever happened to her Rumours dress. So maybe another repackaging of Rumours?

jbrownsjr
09-20-2022, 07:28 AM
I know they are doing something with the Dance. HD version.

vivfox
09-20-2022, 10:45 AM
I don't know if she is giving a clue or not but the statement was given along with a photo of the Rumours back cover and asking what ever happened to her Rumours dress. So maybe another repackaging of Rumours?

Yes I read on Facebook there is another repackage being released this November that contains the 1975 - Tango albums all in ONE CD/Album
package. If that is what she's excited about, there is nothing new inside.:laugh:

jbrownsjr
09-20-2022, 10:52 AM
Yes I read on Facebook there is another repackage being released this November that contains the 1975 - Tango albums all in ONE CD/Album
package. If that is what she's excited about, there is nothing new inside.:laugh:

Is it just the albums? Or any bonus material?

vivfox
09-20-2022, 12:12 PM
Is it just the albums? Or any bonus material?
Nothing new included. It's not the original albums though. They are the expanded releases all packaged together.

BigAl84
09-20-2022, 02:25 PM
For Record Store Day this year they are packaging all of the prior released "Alternate" albums into one box set. Alternate Rumours, Alternate Tusk etc...

However, that was already announced about a week ago...so I'm not sure what suspense Christine has in her back pocket.

https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/15633

BLY
09-20-2022, 05:22 PM
A 25 anniversary DANCE box set with extras makes the most sense.

Netter75
09-21-2022, 05:32 PM
It would be great it they re-released the show on blu ray, or had a CD with all the songs from the video + some of the tour songs (Oh Daddy, Second Hand News, Stand Back, etc.)

What I would DIE for is any of the rehersal songs. I thought I remembered reading that The Dance was supposed to be an MTV unplugged at one point, which is why Say You Love Me, Big Love, and Go Insane are in stripped down versions. IIRC Brown Eyes, Twisted, and Little Lies were on that original list. If those recordings exist (or acoustic versions of ther songs they did perform) I would be ecstatic.

Macfan4life
09-22-2022, 04:14 AM
No announcement yet on her twitter page but a fan did bring up a good question. Since Chris (or her rep) was tweeting the back of Rumours and talking about the dress, there is something more interesting to talk about. What is in Chris's hands on the back cover? Does anyone know? A fan made a joke that it was an I-phone from 1977. It does sort of look like that. This is an interesting bit of trivia. Has this ever been discussed before?
Anyone know the answer? Maybe a cigarette case full of cocaine?

aleuzzi
09-22-2022, 11:51 AM
No announcement yet on her twitter page but a fan did bring up a good question. Since Chris (or her rep) was tweeting the back of Rumours and talking about the dress, there is something more interesting to talk about. What is in Chris's hands on the back cover? Does anyone know? A fan made a joke that it was an I-phone from 1977. It does sort of look like that. This is an interesting bit of trivia. Has this ever been discussed before?
Anyone know the answer? Maybe a cigarette case full of cocaine?

I always assumed it was a cigarette case...filled with cigarettes. But as the lady once wrote: anything is possible.

jbrownsjr
09-22-2022, 12:38 PM
I always assumed it was a cigarette case...filled with cigarettes. But as the lady once wrote: anything is possible.

And she was so sincere when she wrote it.

aleuzzi
09-23-2022, 09:35 AM
And she was so sincere when she wrote it.

She’d had her share of Liars and was Giving it Back.

jbrownsjr
09-23-2022, 09:37 AM
She’d had her share of Liars and was Giving it Back.

YOU ARE such a Friend to be doing this with me.

aleuzzi
09-23-2022, 04:42 PM
YOU ARE such a Friend to be doing this with me.

All that emptiness, well it’s a thing of the past

jbrownsjr
09-23-2022, 05:07 PM
All that emptiness, well it’s a thing of the past

You used to slip the noose, tight around my heart.

aleuzzi
09-24-2022, 10:25 AM
You used to slip the noose, tight around my heart.

I was casting stones and throwing bones

jbrownsjr
09-24-2022, 01:36 PM
I was casting stones and throwing bones

hahahaha I give!!!! that's f****** funny...

Villavic
10-01-2022, 07:30 AM
No news yet but some answers in that twit are interesting, others are funny, and there are the obvious reactions too:

-Reunion?

-I know I might be in the minority, but I keep hoping Behind The Mask would get a deluxe edition.

-Will you be at The Palladium 1st October for Lindsey's Concert ?

-That’s an original Diane Von Furstenberg wrap dress! Probably worth a fortune.

-What was in the book you were holding?

-So is Lindsey coming back?

-To hell with the dress, where is the IPhone prototype you had in 1977?
Total high class badass!

-I was wondering , if you may do the same as Abba did with those Avatars .

bwboy
10-01-2022, 09:58 AM
No news yet but some answers in that twit are interesting, others are funny, and there are the obvious reactions too:

-I know I might be in the minority, but I keep hoping Behind The Mask would get a deluxe edition.

I am with you on this one 100%! There is an absolute wealth of material available for a Deluxe Edition of Behind the Mask- the songs that didn’t make it on the album, the concert that was filmed at Red Rocks for the BTM tour, plus songs from this lineup that appeared on other FM albums, like As Long As You Follow, Paper Doll, Love Shines, No Questions Asked, etc. I think we can all agree the other FM albums have been mined enough, so how about giving us something that hasn’t been released five times already?

Macfan4life
10-01-2022, 10:28 AM
I am with you on this one 100%! There is an absolute wealth of material available for a Deluxe Edition of Behind the Mask- the songs that didn’t make it on the album, the concert that was filmed at Red Rocks for the BTM tour, plus songs from this lineup that appeared on other FM albums, like As Long As You Follow, Paper Doll, Love Shines, No Questions Asked, etc. I think we can all agree the other FM albums have been mined enough, so how about giving us something that hasn’t been released five times already?
I dont think anyone would disagree with you. The problem is $$$$. Those remixes of the same album 5 times still sell because the original album sold well. BTM did not sell well and no one (except us) is going to rush out and buy a remix or re-issue of an album that was not that successful to begin with.

The demos and left overs from RAL would make a great reissue of that album. But I have a feeling Stevie is not proud of that era and it may never happen. I have never heard a great demo or left over from OTSOTM. They are all lousy and while I love the album, it was slim pickings to find songs to complete that album. Have you heard Dial the number with Kenny G? Please dont play it while driving near a cliff because you may just drive off at full speed!

UnwindedDreams
10-01-2022, 10:57 AM
I dont think anyone would disagree with you. The problem is $$$$. Those remixes of the same album 5 times still sell because the original album sold well. BTM did not sell well and no one (except us) is going to rush out and buy a remix or re-issue of an album that was not that successful to begin with.

The demos and left overs from RAL would make a great reissue of that album. But I have a feeling Stevie is not proud of that era and it may never happen. I have never heard a great demo or left over from OTSOTM. They are all lousy and while I love the album, it was slim pickings to find songs to complete that album. Have you heard Dial the number with Kenny G? Please dont play it while driving near a cliff because you may just drive off at full speed!
You're right on the money! Stevie is hardly proud of the early 90s.
What kind of liner notes would Stevie include for a BTM reissue. The ones she did for Rumours, Tusk, Mirage and Tango are awesome.

I think the best time to have reissued BTM was when Lindsey was fired. Instead they did a 50 Year Compilation. Had they reissued BTM, they could have explored that record on the 2018 Tour and even plugged it on The Ellen Show.

Macfan4life
10-01-2022, 02:37 PM
You're right on the money! Stevie is hardly proud of the early 90s.
What kind of liner notes would Stevie include for a BTM reissue. The ones she did for Rumours, Tusk, Mirage and Tango are awesome.

I think the best time to have reissued BTM was when Lindsey was fired. Instead they did a 50 Year Compilation. Had they reissued BTM, they could have explored that record on the 2018 Tour and even plugged it on The Ellen Show.
But you are making too much sense. You forgot one major calculation. Stevie insisted on Campbell as one of the guitarists. So even your well intentioned dream could not come true since there were not going to be the musicians from BTM.

jmn3
10-01-2022, 11:01 PM
But you are making too much sense. You forgot one major calculation. Stevie insisted on Campbell as one of the guitarists. So even your well intentioned dream could not come true since there were not going to be the musicians from BTM.

Well if we’re going to be technical, Campbell does share a co-writing credit on a BTM song

cbBen
10-01-2022, 11:35 PM
You're right on the money! Stevie is hardly proud of the early 90s.

In interviews at the time she said the band was better than ever.

jbrownsjr
10-03-2022, 07:31 AM
In interviews at the time she said the band was better than ever.

She did say that. And Christine said it in 2018. And Lindsey said it in 2003.

justcrazylove
10-03-2022, 06:31 PM
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1121526925237011

Look how shameless they are. Tell me they won't be playing next year. I dare you. :p

vivfox
10-03-2022, 07:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1121526925237011

Look how shameless they are. Tell me they won't be playing next year. I dare you. :p


Who is the "they" you are referring to? All I saw was Mick playing his bongo and wishing LB a happy B-Day.

UnwindedDreams
10-03-2022, 08:39 PM
In interviews at the time she said the band was better than ever.Was she clean in 1990?

UnwindedDreams
10-03-2022, 08:40 PM
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1121526925237011

Look how shameless they are. Tell me they won't be playing next year. I dare you. :p
This will be removed from Mick's socials next week after a call from Irving. How dare Mick say he misses Lindsey:rolleyes:

HomerMcvie
10-04-2022, 01:29 AM
They really are shameless.

I'm sick of the fakeness of it, these days. It's pathetic.

jbrownsjr
10-04-2022, 07:33 AM
The first birthday wish is the deepest one of all.

BigAl84
10-04-2022, 08:33 AM
Was she clean in 1990?

Is the sky blue? :sorry::]:]

Villavic
10-04-2022, 08:47 AM
She did say that. And Christine said it in 2018. And Lindsey said it in 2003.

And Mick wrote in his first book (circa 1991) "Stevie Nicks? Better than ever, in my opinion." Was he also in klonopin? :laugh:

jbrownsjr
10-04-2022, 08:50 AM
Is the sky blue? :sorry::]:]

The clouds didn't expect it.

DownOnRodeo
10-04-2022, 09:51 AM
This will be removed from Mick's socials next week after a call from Irving. How dare Mick say he misses Lindsey:rolleyes:

Yes. Perhaps this is the reason for the bizarre and elaborate disguise.

jbrownsjr
10-04-2022, 10:24 AM
Yes. Perhaps this is the reason for the bizarre and elaborate disguise.

That little fact didn't get past me either!!! :lol::lol:

Macfan4life
10-04-2022, 10:57 AM
Is the sky blue? :sorry::]:]
No the sky is crying. She says the sky is blue.

Get it straight
;)

jbrownsjr
10-04-2022, 11:25 AM
No the sky is crying. She says the sky is blue.

Get it straight
;)

You get it straight! There is a limit now.

BigAl84
10-05-2022, 08:33 AM
For real though...it's insane if they invested resources into the Live 1980 deluxe package and somehow ignore the 25th Anniversary of The Dance.

It's shocking there wasn't a 10th or 15th Anniversary project released for it. It was a huge success at the time. Of all cash cows to milk, they have oddly put that release out to pasture so far.

David
10-05-2022, 12:58 PM
For real though...it's insane if they invested resources into the Live 1980 deluxe package and somehow ignore the 25th Anniversary of The Dance.
I find it odd, too, considering the deluxe packages. Maybe it boils down to what Rhino wants to release—and that boils down to the email they get and the availability of source tapes.

jbrownsjr
10-05-2022, 01:00 PM
I find it odd, too, considering the deluxe packages. Maybe it boils down to what Rhino wants to release—and that boils down to the email they get and the availability of source tapes.

It is really odd! A UGE opportunity.

Karlie
10-06-2022, 05:03 PM
Well, looks like the announcement was indeed an auction: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/fleetwood-mac-items-auction-benefit-musicares-1235151671/

jbrownsjr
10-06-2022, 06:45 PM
How un-exciting!!!

HomerMcvie
10-06-2022, 08:40 PM
I wouldn't touch anything that had ever been between Mick's legs.

#thatsnasty

bwboy
10-06-2022, 08:50 PM
I would touch anything that had ever been between Mick's legs.

#thatsnasty

Down, Homer! I’m surprised to hear you say you would touch anything that dangled between Mick’s moist thighs LOL!

HomerMcvie
10-06-2022, 08:58 PM
Down, Homer! I’m surprised to hear you say you would touch anything that dangled between Mick’s moist thighs LOL!

god I hate typing on my phone. Auto correct f*cks you every time. :p

Pretty funny, though. Mick has been nasty for 40 years...

Macfan4life
10-07-2022, 04:03 AM
This is ridiculous. I have never seen a band auction off their awards. Mick is selling his Rock N Roll Hall of Fame award? The Hall should strip it from him. He really needs the money? Many artists auction off clothes and mementos. That is not new. Elton John had a huge auction a few years ago. But these auctions are always 100% for charity. But they are actually profiting from this auction and will only say a part of the proceeds goes to charity but refuse to say the percentage. That tells you everything you need to know.
Stevie does not want the Video award for Gypsy? I would think of all that work she was forced to do she would want it. So they decided to keep the Grammys :lol:

This band keeps getting more ridiculous :lol:

DownOnRodeo
10-07-2022, 04:11 AM
Stevie does not want the Video award for Gypsy? I would think of all that work she was forced to do she would want it.

I think the article says that it's Christine trophy for the Gypsy video. I guess each band member got one, and after all Chris is a supporting actress in the video.:laugh:

I have no doubt that Mick also tried to rope Stevie and maybe Lindsey into this sell-out sell-off, and that those two wanted nothing to do with it.

I can understand Christine getting rid of stuff. She comes across as completely unsentimental most of the time, and maybe there are some tax considerations for liquidating your estate while alive. But the shonky and shameless idea of selling off a bunch of random crap with "a portion" of the proceeds going to charity has the name Mick Fleecewood all over it. I imagine that whoever places the winning bid on Christine's historic baby grand will open the lid to find a one-month trial subscription to Fleetwood's Coffee Beans taped to the keys.

Gypsy0033
10-07-2022, 04:16 AM
The Julian’s Auctions list saddens me. To see Christine auctioning off her tour traveling vanity case..is all I need to know. The end of an era.

Gypsy0033
10-07-2022, 04:20 AM
Here is the actual list of items

https://www.juliensauctions.com/about-auction?id=428

Macfan4life
10-07-2022, 05:01 AM
I think the article says that it's Christine trophy for the Gypsy video. I guess each band member got one, and after all Chris is a supporting actress in the video.:laugh:

I have no doubt that Mick also tried to rope Stevie and maybe Lindsey into this sell-out sell-off, and that those two wanted nothing to do with it.

I can understand Christine getting rid of stuff. She comes across as completely unsentimental most of the time, and maybe there are some tax considerations for liquidating your estate while alive. But the shonky and shameless idea of selling off a bunch of random crap with "a portion" of the proceeds going to charity has the name Mick Fleecewood all over it. I imagine that whoever places the winning bid on Christine's historic baby grand will open the lid to find a one-month trial subscription to Fleetwood's Coffee Beans taped to the keys.
Thats a good point that Stevie and Lindsey stuff seems to be missing which tells you something. You are right, its Chris selling her Gypsy trophy.

These auctions happen all the time in rock. I think its cool and hopefully Chris's dress ends up at a Hard Rock somewhere for the world to see.

My issue is this auction is not exclusively for charity. I have never seen something like this before. It tells you it was Mick that concocted this idea since he has not much royalties and touring cash to get him by. He leads one of the biggest bands in rock and does meet and greets for a few hundred dollars. How could anyone sell their RRHOF award for cash and not exclusively for charity? That's a first for rock. It's pathetic to sell it. I applaud Stevie and Lindsey for not taking part.

bwboy
10-07-2022, 06:34 AM
I think the article says that it's Christine trophy for the Gypsy video. I guess each band member got one, and after all Chris is a supporting actress in the video.:laugh:

I can understand Christine getting rid of stuff. She comes across as completely unsentimental most of the time, and maybe there are some tax considerations for liquidating your estate while alive. But the shonky and shameless idea of selling off a bunch of random crap with "a portion" of the proceeds going to charity has the name Mick Fleecewood all over it. I imagine that whoever places the winning bid on Christine's historic baby grand will open the lid to find a one-month trial subscription to Fleetwood's Coffee Beans taped to the keys.

Very funny! If the coffee beans are in fact included, I may actually purchase the baby grand. But I really don’t get the hate by some folks- as you yourself said, it’s just “a bunch of random crap.” I get rid of my crap by donating it to Good Will, but only because I can’t get anyone to bid on it!

Same thing about Christine- of all of the members, she is the least sentimental. Frankly, I’m stunned she still has that dress from the back of the Rumours cover. A pack rat who keeps mementos of their tours, photo shoots, recordings, and clothing and accessories would seem to describe Stevie, not Christine.

I wonder how much the cutout board of John would fetch? I admit I’m curious to see how well those items do sell, but I don’t mind they’re doing this. I’m sure they talked it over with their families and the survivors of their estate don’t want them, so why not sell them? They get money and folks who pay that much will certainly take care of the items in question. It’s not like someone’s gonna buy those awards so they can be melted for scrap. I’m getting a sense of “I already hate Mick so now I can add this to the list of reasons why I hate him.”

UnwindedDreams
10-07-2022, 06:40 AM
Anybody notice in the Billboard article it mentions Lindsey as a member of Fleetwood Mac and doesn't mention Mike or Neil?

"The two other members of the celebrated quintet — Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks — are not involved with the auction."

DownOnRodeo
10-07-2022, 07:12 AM
I’m getting a sense of “I already hate Mick so now I can add this to the list of reasons why I hate him.”

Not hatred of the man... just eyerolling derision at the things he does and says.:o

Macfan4life said it best:
How could anyone sell their RRHOF award for cash and not exclusively for charity? That's a first for rock. It's pathetic to sell it. I applaud Stevie and Lindsey for not taking part.

"By Grabthar's Hammond... Oh, what a savings!"

The good news is that you'll be able to sate your curiosity, bwboy--the auction will be livestreamed on the auction house website!

bwboy
10-07-2022, 08:21 AM
Here are some last minute additions to the auction:

- The cardboard cut out of John that was featured in the Tusk video, which John was unable to attend due to prior commitments.

- The actual microphone Dave Mason used to record Time, which he lovingly gifted to Christine.

- The RV which Lindsey bought so Mick’s drug dealer could live on his property during the recording of Tango in the Night.

- The necklace Christine wore during the recording of Rumours, which contained her daily ration of cocaine.

Macfan4life
10-07-2022, 08:24 AM
Up next: Biddy's Britches - only worn once




Credit: Homer - he predicted it.

Seriously if you are selling your RRHOF award for personal profit you have hit rock bottom and nothing is beneath you. How long before we see feces in a jar?

BigAl84
10-07-2022, 08:42 AM
This is ridiculous. I have never seen a band auction off their awards. Mick is selling his Rock N Roll Hall of Fame award? The Hall should strip it from him. He really needs the money? Many artists auction off clothes and mementos. That is not new. Elton John had a huge auction a few years ago. But these auctions are always 100% for charity. But they are actually profiting from this auction and will only say a part of the proceeds goes to charity but refuse to say the percentage. That tells you everything you need to know.
Stevie does not want the Video award for Gypsy? I would think of all that work she was forced to do she would want it. So they decided to keep the Grammys :lol:

This band keeps getting more ridiculous :lol:

Hey...times are tough. Christine just purchased a new house a few years ago.

BigAl84
10-07-2022, 08:45 AM
Just added: an antique vase said to contain the last granules of dignity from Mick, Christine, and John.

BigAl84
10-07-2022, 08:50 AM
How long before we see feces in a jar?

It already exists. He has an exclusive "dark roast" as part of his new line of coffee.


:]

bwboy
10-07-2022, 09:23 AM
Just added: an antique vase said to contain the last granules of dignity from Mick, Christine, and John.

:lol: that’s awesome! But just out of curiosity, what is John selling that you think lacks dignity? Nothing John gave to be auctioned seems worthy of the disdain they’re all getting. Just curious. And I hope people will contribute ideas for those last minute must-have auction items that any FM fan would love to have!

Karlie
10-07-2022, 10:23 AM
Another last minute addition: Harold.

HomerMcvie
10-07-2022, 10:27 AM
Another last minute addition: Harold.

Now Harold would be a welcome addition to my collection.




Of FM memorabilia! :p

HomerMcvie
10-07-2022, 10:28 AM
Up next: Biddy's Britches - only worn once




Credit: Homer - he predicted it.

Seriously if you are selling your RRHOF award for personal profit you have hit rock bottom and nothing is beneath you. How long before we see feces in a jar?

I told you! Mick is absolutely SHAMELESS. :lol:

HomerMcvie
10-07-2022, 10:30 AM
Just added: an antique vase said to contain the last granules of dignity from Mick, Christine, and John.

It would have to be an antique, because dignity walked out the door some time ago.

BigAl84
10-07-2022, 10:34 AM
:lol: that’s awesome! But just out of curiosity, what is John selling that you think lacks dignity? Nothing John gave to be auctioned seems worthy of the disdain they’re all getting. Just curious. And I hope people will contribute ideas for those last minute must-have auction items that any FM fan would love to have!

The whole thing lacks dignity. They're pocketing cash while only donating an undisclosed percentage.

bwboy
10-07-2022, 11:58 AM
The whole thing lacks dignity. They're pocketing cash while only donating an undisclosed percentage.

Got it. Perhaps the latest last-minute item up for bid might change your mind- Mick is donating his last remaining copy of his best selling album I’m Not Me, autographed by Mick and every member of the Zoo!

The next item up for bid is the unpublished version of his autobiography My Adventures in Fleetwood Mac. This one actually is the truth and not filled with lies.

jbrownsjr
10-07-2022, 12:02 PM
Another added item, Christine's one stuffed animal she stole from Stevie during the Forum show 1982.

Macfan4life
10-07-2022, 12:25 PM
Items I would bid for:

Any wine glass Chris drank from

An empty baggie (no residue, I dont want to be arrested) from Lindsey's driveway from Mick's Tango days

Stevie's broken fingernail from the infamous fight in which Lindsey allegedly threw her against the car before quitting Fleetwood Mac

The monkey Mick had on his drums during the Mirage tour

Empty klonopin bottle from you know who

Elton John's auctions always raise lots of money for AIDS charities. In today's messed up world, we just had over 120 Americans die in Florida with hurricane Ian, Ukraine refugees, and other good causes that need money. To give broke Mick another $75,000 is just a waste. This auction could rake in over a million dollars too. Chris is worth tens of millions of dollars. I am sure she was hoodwinked into this to give Mick cover for his greed.
"Dear Chris.....I bloody need you. This Stevie Lindsey thing could leave me high and dry. I need money for my future. Why dont we sell a few things so I can make a few bucks at least as much I would have made for some meet and greets on tour we will never do again. Thanks mate. By the way, I have an extra pair of Biddy's britches. What size are you?"

jbrownsjr
10-07-2022, 01:10 PM
Prince's cigarette butts that he smoked while writing Stand Back.

David
10-07-2022, 01:19 PM
If Mick needs an income again, why doesn’t he hire himself out as a session drummer? Surely, many recording artists would love to have Mick Fleetwood play drums for them, in the studio or onstage or both. He could make a fine living at his age doing session work. Doesn’t that seem more interesting — if you’re a musician — than selling coffee or wine or electronic vests?

Everybody is sort of dumb in Fleetwood Mac. Even back in the old days, Peter and Danny and Bob Weston and others were all sort of dumb. Bob Welch may have been the only non-dumb one. Rick, too.

jbrownsjr
10-07-2022, 01:32 PM
If Mick needs an income again, why doesn’t he hire himself out as a session drummer? Surely, many recording artists would love to have Mick Fleetwood play drums for them, in the studio or onstage or both. He could make a fine living at his age doing session work. Doesn’t that seem more interesting — if you’re a musician — than selling coffee or wine or electronic vests?

Everybody is sort of dumb in Fleetwood Mac. Even back in the old days, Peter and Danny and Bob Weston and others were all sort of dumb. Bob Welch may have been the only non-dumb one. Rick, too.

There's an idea! Play drums!

bwboy
10-07-2022, 03:21 PM
If Mick needs an income again, why doesn’t he hire himself out as a session drummer? Surely, many recording artists would love to have Mick Fleetwood play drums for them, in the studio or onstage or both. He could make a fine living at his age doing session work. Doesn’t that seem more interesting — if you’re a musician — than selling coffee or wine or electronic vests?

Everybody is sort of dumb in Fleetwood Mac. Even back in the old days, Peter and Danny and Bob Weston and others were all sort of dumb. Bob Welch may have been the only non-dumb one. Rick, too.

Who is dumber- Mick Fleetwood for selling balls he held on an album cover back in 1977, nearly 50 years ago, or the person paying thousands of dollars for them? Yet if someone has the money to afford one of these items up for bid, how dumb can they be?

I think folks are reading WAY to much into this auction and are being very judgemental. In America, as well as other developed countries, people are allowed to sell items they no longer want or need. How anyone on this board can be so outraged is a head scratcher to me. Who cares what they do with the money? To quote an aunt of mine, and I think it’s appropriate here- “Geez Louise!”

I guess I’m just being cranky, and I don’t know why. Guess I just can’t understand why people are acting so outraged because the band isn’t spending the money the way they think it should be spent.

aleuzzi
10-07-2022, 03:27 PM
I admit to being a bit behind the times, but what in the heck is: "A Harry Styles Pleasing "Shroom Bloom" Campaign Ensemble"?

I understand each of those words in isolation but do not know what they mean threaded together.

bwboy
10-07-2022, 03:30 PM
Items I would bid for:

Any wine glass Chris drank from

An empty baggie (no residue, I dont want to be arrested) from Lindsey's driveway from Mick's Tango days

Stevie's broken fingernail from the infamous fight in which Lindsey allegedly threw her against the car before quitting Fleetwood Mac

The monkey Mick had on his drums during the Mirage tour

Empty klonopin bottle from you know who

Elton John's auctions always raise lots of money for AIDS charities. In today's messed up world, we just had over 120 Americans die in Florida with hurricane Ian, Ukraine refugees, and other good causes that need money. To give broke Mick another $75,000 is just a waste. This auction could rake in over a million dollars too. Chris is worth tens of millions of dollars. I am sure she was hoodwinked into this to give Mick cover for his greed.

LOL excellent items! And the empty Klonopin bottle is practical, too, as it can be used again and again!

I think you are blaming Mick way too much here. First of all, I just don’t see Christine as someone who’s easily hoodwinked or taken advantage of in business. If anything, considering the fact that she’s the only person promoting the auction, my first thought was it was her idea. She never promotes anything, and all of a sudden she’s promoting Songbird and now the auction. Her handlers know what they’re doing. I understand you hate Mick, which makes it easy for him to be a scapegoat, but this could just as easily have been Christine’s idea- just like it was her idea to sell her catalogue. And even if it wasn’t her idea, she can do whatever she wants with her property. I’m considering buying her baby grand, and I think you should give serious thoughts to purchasing John’s surfboard!

aleuzzi
10-07-2022, 03:36 PM
The whole thing lacks dignity. They're pocketing cash while only donating an undisclosed percentage.

I agree. It all smacks of greed and self-interest. Sadly, there is nothing surprising in this. Since 1976, the core trio of Brits has been obsessed with money, with earning, spending, and/or losing it.

I was horrified to see Mick give up his RRHOF award, not because the award itself is especially meaningful but because of how badly Bob Welch wanted one and how devastated he was not to be included in it. No tact whatsoever.

Macfan4life
10-07-2022, 04:12 PM
I agree. It all smacks of greed and self-interest. Sadly, there is nothing surprising in this. Since 1976, the core trio of Brits has been obsessed with money, with earning, spending, and/or losing it.

I was horrified to see Mick give up his RRHOF award, not because the award itself is especially meaningful but because of how badly Bob Welch wanted one and how devastated he was not to be included in it. No tact whatsoever.
OMG :eek:
I never thought of that angle but YES its pouring salt in that Welch wound again. Who would have guessed that in 24 years after that fiasco that Mick would be selling it to the highest bidder :eek:

bwboy: I am not blaming Mick or blaming anyone. I am just saddened at the greed. All the items are theirs so that may sound harsh. They are free to do whatever they want with them. However this band goes far beyond the norm in selling their historic momentos. They should really just create their own Ebay account and sell it themselves for profit. I would have respect for that. But they are using the "rock star auction" tradition to enrich themselves. Not blaming anyone just horrified at their actions. It was tongue and cheek saying Christine was giving him cover. But lets be real, Mick knows he would have been thrown under the bus by the press for doing it himself. So he tried to make it a "Fleetwood Mac" auction. Yet is not, its just 3 members (who IMHO were asked to find something). They realize they are old and their days numbered. Clearly these items need to be found a home by someone who can preserve them. If all the items donated were for charity, they would all get a huge charitable deduction. Yet that was not good enough. Chris has a net worth of at least 65 million. Does she really need a few hundred thousand dollars? Or is there better way to funnel money from a rock star auction to a needy charity? They are free to do it just as I am free to criticize them for it. Having said all that, I think its official. They are done and cashing out. $$$$

HomerMcvie
10-07-2022, 04:22 PM
I’m considering buying her baby grand,
You have that kind of money? Ooh la la!:cool:

jbrownsjr
10-07-2022, 04:51 PM
I agree. It all smacks of greed and self-interest. Sadly, there is nothing surprising in this. Since 1976, the core trio of Brits has been obsessed with money, with earning, spending, and/or losing it.

I was horrified to see Mick give up his RRHOF award, not because the award itself is especially meaningful but because of how badly Bob Welch wanted one and how devastated he was not to be included in it. No tact whatsoever.

You've smacked me across the face with this most excellent point. What a slap in the face. And I'm someone that deeply respects Mick's body of work.

Karlie
10-07-2022, 04:52 PM
One thing that boggles my mind is that Mick’s balls are going for about twice as much as Chris’ baby grand.

Karlie
10-07-2022, 04:57 PM
I admit to being a bit behind the times, but what in the heck is: "A Harry Styles Pleasing "Shroom Bloom" Campaign Ensemble"?

I understand each of those words in isolation but do not know what they mean threaded together.

:lol: Mick modeled in an ad for Harry Styles’ nail polish brand, Pleasing. The collection of colors was called “Shroom Bloom.” I’m guessing it’s the purple suit he was wearing in the ad.

Macfan4life
10-07-2022, 05:47 PM
You've smacked me across the face with this most excellent point. What a slap in the face. And I'm someone that deeply respects Mick's body of work.
Its horrible.
Mick in 1998: You don't deserve this Bob.

Mick in 2014: Bob was just as instrumental to the band as Stevie and Lindsey

Mick in 2022: Who wants my RRHOF trophy? Btw I have a great deal on some britches. Barely worn.

Karlie
10-07-2022, 06:57 PM
Its horrible.
Mick in 1998: You don't deserve this Bob.

Mick in 2014: Bob was just as instrumental to the band as Stevie and Lindsey

Mick in 2022: Who wants my RRHOF trophy? Btw I have a great deal on some britches. Barely worn.

If 100% of the money were going to charity, I’d be tempted to get a bunch of us together to bid on it, put Bob’s name on the trophy, and give it to his next of kin.

jbrownsjr
10-07-2022, 07:08 PM
If 100% of the money were going to charity, I’d be tempted to get a bunch of us together to bid on it, put Bob’s name on the trophy, and give it to his next of kin.

Karlie, I'd be 10000000% into that. Love Bob Welch and his music.

DownOnRodeo
10-07-2022, 07:34 PM
what is John selling that you think lacks dignity? Nothing John gave to be auctioned seems worthy of the disdain they’re all getting.

He is selling a surfboard that he never used that was bought for him by Stevie as a joke gift. In other words it is some random unused surfboard he's throwing out and looking to actually profit on it. A veritable surfeit of indignity.

I had considered the possibility that Chris instigated the scheme, what with her being the oldest and frailest and, if nothing else, probably just looking to offload items in storage in the US. But Chris is not very proactive, whereas Mick is all entrepreneurial. Even if from appearances it was Chris' "idea", I guarantee that all along Mick was whispering guidance in her ear like Wormtongue having his chats with King Theodin.

aleuzzi
10-07-2022, 11:23 PM
He is selling a surfboard that he never used that was bought for him by Stevie as a joke gift. In other words it is some random unused surfboard he's throwing out and looking to actually profit on it. A veritable surfeit of indignity.

I had considered the possibility that Chris instigated the scheme, what with her being the oldest and frailest and, if nothing else, probably just looking to offload items in storage in the US. But Chris is not very proactive, whereas Mick is all entrepreneurial. Even if from appearances it was Chris' "idea", I guarantee that all along Mick was whispering guidance in her ear like Wormtongue having his chats with King Theodin.


Oh, yes, this is all textbook Mick. But then Christine has always gone along with his choices and supported them. He has a certain power over her. Her loyalty to him goes beyond just being bandmates and lifelong friends: she has put herself and her reputation on the line for him many times:

—she followed Mick and John to LA (which turned out well, but it was a risk)

—she agreed to carry on without Lindsey in 1987, 1990, and 1995, despite not feeling the new lineups were as good without him

—she did The Dance tour

—she went on the 2028-2019 tour with imposters

—she’s always been the dutiful soldier and taking the party line.

And now this….

HomerMcvie
10-08-2022, 01:41 AM
Oh, yes, this is all textbook Mick. But then Christine has always gone along with his choices and supported them. He has a certain power over her. Her loyalty to him goes beyond just being bandmates and lifelong friends: she has put herself and her reputation on the line for him many times:

—she followed Mick and John to LA (which turned out well, but it was a risk)

—she agreed to carry on without Lindsey in 1987, 1990, and 1995, despite not feeling the new lineups were as good without him

—she did The Dance tour

—she went on the 2028-2019 tour with imposters

—she’s always been the dutiful soldier and taking the party line.

And now this….

It's difficult whether to applaud her loyalty or mock it.

I mean, she's loyal to THE card carrying IDIOT of FM history.

Maybe it's pity loyalty...

Macfan4life
10-08-2022, 02:45 AM
Oh, yes, this is all textbook Mick. But then Christine has always gone along with his choices and supported them. He has a certain power over her. Her loyalty to him goes beyond just being bandmates and lifelong friends: she has put herself and her reputation on the line for him many times:

—she followed Mick and John to LA (which turned out well, but it was a risk)

—she agreed to carry on without Lindsey in 1987, 1990, and 1995, despite not feeling the new lineups were as good without him

—she did The Dance tour

—she went on the 2028-2019 tour with imposters

—she’s always been the dutiful soldier and taking the party line.

And now this….
She also was the only band member to give him money for his debts before his bankruptcy in 1984.

sue
10-08-2022, 03:15 AM
I donÂ’t care that they are selling this stuff, itÂ’s theirs to sell.
ItÂ’s only collecting dust in some storage facility.
But they should donate at least a percentage of the proceeds.
Hang on Â….IÂ’ve just read a portion of the proceeds will go to MusiCares

If Mick is in need of money Christine and John should help him out.
Would they have been so rich and famous without him? I doubt it.

Storms123
10-08-2022, 07:59 AM
It's fascinating that Stevie and Lindsey aren't taking part in this.

Macfan4life
10-08-2022, 08:17 AM
I donÂ’t care that they are selling this stuff, itÂ’s theirs to sell.
ItÂ’s only collecting dust in some storage facility.
But they should donate at least a percentage of the proceeds.
Hang on Â….IÂ’ve just read a portion of the proceeds will go to MusiCares

If Mick is in need of money Christine and John should help him out.
Would they have been so rich and famous without him? I doubt it.
I dont think anyone is disputing their right to sell what is theirs. They are getting old and these treasures need to find a good home. The issue that I and others have is the disguise of a rock star auction. Clearly they could put on twitter or Ebay any item they want and sell whatever they want. They wont even reveal what percentage is for charity. Most rock stars have auctions all the time and 100% of the proceeds go to a charity. But not this group. Its fine to profit off a sale of what is yours but don't use the rock star auction route as a disguise for your profit. There is a reason Stevie and Lindsey said NO WAY. I like others believe this was Mick's idea and he persuaded Chris and John to go along. Like Stevie's tour cut percentage, we may never know the cut that goes to charity but I am waging 10%.

tango87
10-08-2022, 08:54 AM
How can they still need money? What on earth are they doing with it?

This does feel to me like the end of the band as going concern. Of course they could still get together and play without any of this stuff, but it just looks like a winding down. At least Lindsey and Stevie are still out there, even with diminished powers. But it's sad to watch this epic band fading away.

HomerMcvie
10-08-2022, 10:00 AM
I do understand the need to purge, and I do think it shows that the end is here(or very near). It is sad watching them fade away. They should have called it another lonely day after BuckVie, when the old goat got Lindsey fired. That WAS the end.

aleuzzi
10-08-2022, 10:05 AM
How can they still need money? What on earth are they doing with it?

This does feel to me like the end of the band as going concern. Of course they could still get together and play without any of this stuff, but it just looks like a winding down. At least Lindsey and Stevie are still out there, even with diminished powers. But it's sad to watch this epic band fading away.

They are all determined to live like stars for the remainder of their years, exploiting the public’s genuine love for their legacy. They refuse to adjust their lifestyles to a kind of graceful retirement.

HomerMcvie
10-08-2022, 10:44 AM
They are all determined to live like stars for the remainder of their years, exploiting the public’s genuine love for their legacy. They refuse to adjust their lifestyles to a kind of graceful retirement.

I'll bet John still has a ton of money. He's always seemed the most grounded, at least with the rock star lifestyle.

Mick is, and has always been, the idiot who wants to live like Stevie, when he probably makes 5% of what she does.

Macfan4life
10-08-2022, 10:48 AM
How can they still need money? What on earth are they doing with it?

This does feel to me like the end of the band as going concern. Of course they could still get together and play without any of this stuff, but it just looks like a winding down. At least Lindsey and Stevie are still out there, even with diminished powers. But it's sad to watch this epic band fading away.
Its always Mick that needs money. He is so bad with money and always finds ways to get petty cash. Wasn't it reported many years ago how he rents his restaurant for the hours its not open or something? I cant remember the details but an unusual move for a restaurant owner who is the founder of one of the biggest music bands in the world. He probably made at least 5 million with On With The Show tour and probably another 5 million off the following tour. Yet he sells his presence to the fans for a few hundred. Nothing wrong with making money. But it just seems he should not be in the position to keep looking for ways to make petty cash. How much could he have made off the meet and greets with On With the show? Maybe $50,000? Would that not be less than he would make off one show? Selling your RRHOF award is an insult to the Hall IMHO. There are NFL stars who hit rock bottom and were forced to sell their Super Bowl ring. It almost seems like that. He just seems like he will do anything for a nickel. Why not go all the way and sell your Grammy and all your rights to The Visitor. That should make him at least another $12.95 :lol:

This is connected to Lindsey's firing. If Mick did not have this mindset, he would not let Stevie lead him around on a leash. He only cared about her ticket sales draw and not about the legacy of the band. If he was not like this, its possible it might not have happened. Which is why he is so nice to Lindsey these days. He wants him back for another reunion tour. Every step he makes is calculated in where the next dime is coming from. Its sad and how a drug addict thinks. Where is your next hit coming from?

bombaysaffires
10-08-2022, 11:06 AM
They are all determined to live like stars for the remainder of their years, exploiting the public’s genuine love for their legacy. They refuse to adjust their lifestyles to a kind of graceful retirement.

Christine, having just sold her catalog, should have MORE than enough money to live out her days... she's looking at 80, FFS. She blew a ton on a very $$$ pad in London, but she also sold her Kent estate previously (I now wonder if part of her rejoining the band was because of the insane amount of her cash she put into renovating that house... by her own account it was a bit of a dump when she bought it). If she's in need of cash after the catalog sale, and the tour lucre, she's even worse than Mick.

Mick, unlike Chris and John, has multiple kids, (grandkids?) and who knows what his settlement with his last ex-wife was in terms of payout and/or alimony/child support. Those girls were still pretty young when they split and he'll be supporting them for years to come. However he also just sold his catalog for a decent sum.... And he said at the time that getting that money now, in one lump, would allow him to do things he wants to do that otherwise he'd have to wait longer to do (presumably because he'd have to get the band to do another tour or two to rake in that money otherwise). Does anyone recall what he got for his publishing?? Giving him a lump sum is like giving an addict the key to the medicine cabinet.

John likes a nice life, he's just quieter about it. A few years back the real estate columns had stories about him buying a house in the LA area for his daughter in a nice area....so he has expenses of his and his wife's lifestyles and habits, and his kid.

Chris has no such obligations. Now, she may be supporting in some way various family members and friends and hangers on...

Bottom line is, if any of these fools don't have enough to live out their lives on, they deserve what they get.... and maybe should question the nimrods they have managing their investments.

guillamene
10-08-2022, 12:08 PM
Apart from anything else, this is evidence- if indeed it were needed- that it's over. For this, I'm sad.

UnwindedDreams
10-08-2022, 01:11 PM
Maybe John discussed the auction with Stevie at the Hollywood Bowl this week. "Got a cape you don't want Stevie?"

jbrownsjr
10-08-2022, 01:16 PM
It's 1981 all over again.

jbrownsjr
10-08-2022, 01:23 PM
Maybe John discussed the auction with Stevie at the Hollywood Bowl this week. "Got a cape you don't want Stevie?"

A pair of your carpel tunnel gloves.

UnwindedDreams
10-08-2022, 01:50 PM
A pair of your carpel tunnel gloves.
And the frankenboks. I wonder if John enjoyed the concert. He might love Enchanted!

vivfox
10-08-2022, 02:20 PM
Maybe John discussed the auction with Stevie at the Hollywood Bowl this week. "Got a cape you don't want Stevie?"
She could give him a cardboard cutout of herself.

Macfan4life
10-08-2022, 02:27 PM
She could give him a cardboard cutout of herself.
How about that fancy white washed denim jacked from the 1987 Everywhere Tango concert (I WANNA BE WITH YOU). That should fetch some bucks.
Or those giant sunglasses she wore in the beginning of the Red Rocks video. That giant belt buckle from Red Rocks would make a great paper weight and conversation piece. Her Big Love dress must be somewhere. That Debbie Gibson hat from the Tango concert. Come on Stevie. Didn't she keep her breast implants in her freezer? How many of us dreamed of always owning a piece of Stevie..........literally.

HomerMcvie
10-08-2022, 03:59 PM
How about that fancy white washed denim jacked from the 1987 Everywhere Tango concert (I WANNA BE WITH YOU). That should fetch some bucks.
Or those giant sunglasses she wore in the beginning of the Red Rocks video. That giant belt buckle from Red Rocks would make a great paper weight and conversation piece. Her Big Love dress must be somewhere. That Debbie Gibson hat from the Tango concert. Come on Stevie. Didn't she keep her breast implants in her freezer? How many of us dreamed of always owning a piece of Stevie..........literally.
Think About all the stars who massaged those implants. I literal Who's Who of booby lovers.

DownOnRodeo
10-08-2022, 06:07 PM
If Mick needs an income again, why doesn’t he hire himself out as a session drummer? Surely, many recording artists would love to have Mick Fleetwood play drums for them, in the studio or onstage or both. He could make a fine living at his age doing session work. Doesn’t that seem more interesting — if you’re a musician — than selling coffee or wine or electronic vests?

I had the same thought.
Seems the answer is that, outside of the FM context, Mick is more interested in 'get rich doing nothing' capers than nose-to-the-hihat music work. Hence he's added his name and likeness to nearly everything, from drum samples to fermented grape juice, from oversized scarfs to coffee beans. Of course, at his age and after his long career, it's certainly his prerogative to enjoy the Maui life rather than be a working musician in LA.

<a href="https://ibb.co/TtfvgnD"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/PgLm6bs/steptoe.png" alt="steptoe" border="0"></a>

The Brit members of FM are now officially Steptoe and Son.
Anyone interested in new music can look only to Lindsey.
(And anyone interested in covers, cameos, and casino ads can look to Stevie.)

Music needs a muse, and Lindsey is apparently the only one of the five who still has one.

Storms123
10-08-2022, 09:18 PM
Maybe John discussed the auction with Stevie at the Hollywood Bowl this week. "Got a cape you don't want Stevie?"

That's hilarious! Thank you

sue
10-09-2022, 03:11 AM
I had the same thought.
Seems the answer is that, outside of the FM context, Mick is more interested in 'get rich doing nothing' capers than nose-to-the-hihat music work. Hence he's added his name and likeness to nearly everything, from drum samples to fermented grape juice, from oversized scarfs to coffee beans. Of course, at his age and after his long career, it's certainly his prerogative to enjoy the Maui life rather than be a working musician in LA.

<a href="https://ibb.co/TtfvgnD"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/PgLm6bs/steptoe.png" alt="steptoe" border="0"></a>

The Brit members of FM are now officially Steptoe and Son.
Anyone interested in new music can look only to Lindsey.
(And anyone interested in covers, cameos, and casino ads can look to Stevie.)

Music needs a muse, and Lindsey is apparently the only one of the five who still has one.

Steptoe and son…love it .
With Hercules in the yard..

But at least it’s not World war when they meet.

Macfan4life
10-09-2022, 04:28 AM
After Chris sold her catalog she's worth 100 million. I would bet my life all of the non-charitable profits are going to Mick. Mick will probably make at least a million off the auction. Chris and John are probably like....."sure Mick, we can clean out our closets and find you a few things."

Didn't Mick write in his last book that his Rumours album cover balls were lost. I swear he said he lost them in a bathroom somewhere and he got another pair shortly after. So the balls being sold may be Mick's but they are most likely not the ones on the album cover. Buyer beware.

HomerMcvie
10-09-2022, 10:44 AM
Didn't Mick write in his last book that his Rumours album cover balls were lost. I swear he said he lost them in a bathroom somewhere and he got another pair shortly after. So the balls being sold may be Mick's but they are most likely not the ones on the album cover. Buyer beware.

Are you suggesting that our beloved Mick would LIE, just to make a buck? :laugh:

He and $tevie went to the same school of truth telling. They're both 3rd grade dropouts!

Macfan4life
10-09-2022, 12:16 PM
Are you suggesting that our beloved Mick would LIE, just to make a buck? :laugh:

He and $tevie went to the same school of truth telling. They're both 3rd grade dropouts!
Did you see this tweet from "Christine McVie?" I am sure its her assistant or something.

"This is a first for John, Mick and myself. So looking forward to it and hope you are too!"

Do you really believe Mick has never sold his stuff before? Interesting she qualifies is for all 3 of them. IMHO thats projecting a bit too much to tell me its not :lol:

HomerMcvie
10-09-2022, 12:27 PM
Did you see this tweet from "Christine McVie?" I am sure its her assistant or something.

"This is a first for John, Mick and myself. So looking forward to it and hope you are too!"

Do you really believe Mick has never sold his stuff before? Interesting she qualifies is for all 3 of them. IMHO thats projecting a bit too much to tell me its not :lol:
The whole world knows that he's a LOSER. A card carrying idiot.

Storms123
10-09-2022, 02:37 PM
Are you suggesting that our beloved Mick would LIE, just to make a buck? :laugh:

He and $tevie went to the same school of truth telling. They're both 3rd grade dropouts!



This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. THANK YOU!
The fact that all 5 of the Rumours 5 aren't on board here really suggests how gross this is. It's probably some ridiculously small percentage going to Musicares.

michelej1
10-09-2022, 04:40 PM
Thats a good point that Stevie and Lindsey stuff seems to be missing which tells you something. You are right, its Chris selling her Gypsy trophy.

These auctions happen all the time in rock. I think its cool and hopefully Chris's dress ends up at a Hard Rock somewhere for the world to see.

My issue is this auction is not exclusively for charity. I have never seen something like this before. It tells you it was Mick that concocted this idea since he has not much royalties and touring cash to get him by. He leads one of the biggest bands in rock and does meet and greets for a few hundred dollars. How could anyone sell their RRHOF award for cash and not exclusively for charity? That's a first for rock. It's pathetic to sell it. I applaud Stevie and Lindsey for not taking part.

But you can get a surfboard that Stevie gave to John. I wonder if Stevie has touched it.

michelej1
10-09-2022, 04:48 PM
I donÂ’t care that they are selling this stuff, itÂ’s theirs to sell.
ItÂ’s only collecting dust in some storage facility.
But they should donate at least a percentage of the proceeds.
Hang on Â….IÂ’ve just read a portion of the proceeds will go to MusiCares

If Mick is in need of money Christine and John should help him out.
Would they have been so rich and famous without him? I doubt it.

But how often can or should they do that? You can’t keep giving someone who is now a great great grandfather carte blanche to spend money like water and keep bailing him out until you die.

Macfan4life
10-09-2022, 05:53 PM
But you can get a surfboard that Stevie gave to John. I wonder if Stevie has touched it.
I doubt it. That sounds like an assistant's job.
The real question is has John touched it?

Storms123
10-09-2022, 06:28 PM
I doubt it. That sounds like an assistant's job.
The real question is has John touched it?

Does John even know he has it and is auctioning it off. The RRHOF award getting auctioned off is disgusting. Isn't that what they work for???? Meanwhile I have no doubt Mick's doesn't go for what Stevie or Lindsey's would. LOL. Keep peddling that coffee Mick. Clearly it's dire straits over in Maui
Why wouldn't they just turn this stuff over to the RRHOF for a permanent FM exhibit? I know the answer is "they won't make any money off of it". It's so sad the artifacts of this great band are getting piece mealed off like this.

vivfox
10-09-2022, 07:36 PM
I'm still wondering which Live recordings they intend to offer and if they include video footage. Hopefully whatever shows they have will be ones we have never seen & heard already.

sue
10-10-2022, 02:46 AM
But you can get a surfboard that Stevie gave to John. I wonder if Stevie has touched it.

Why yes, she is often seen mid afternoon, (she doesn’t get up till 3..)
throwing a 360 at Santa Monica beach.

HomerMcvie
10-10-2022, 10:51 AM
Why yes, she is often seen mid afternoon, (she doesn’t get up till 3..)
throwing a 360 at Santa Monica beach.

Prince taught her to surf.

Macfan4life
10-10-2022, 11:02 AM
Prince taught her to surf.
In platform boots

HomerMcvie
10-10-2022, 11:50 AM
In platform boots

After that, she designed the bodies of his crazy looking guitars. He begged her!

Macfan4life
10-10-2022, 12:38 PM
After that, she designed the bodies of his crazy looking guitars. He begged her!
That must have been when he dragged her by her hair up the stairs

David
10-10-2022, 12:41 PM
I'm still wondering which Live recordings they intend to offer and if they include video footage. Hopefully whatever shows they have will be ones we have never seen & heard already.
Wait. What? Who? Live stuff at this auction?

HomerMcvie
10-10-2022, 10:18 PM
That must have been when he dragged her by her hair up the stairs

$he was too busy stairing at the stares. $he and Prince had painted them purple.

aleuzzi
10-10-2022, 11:28 PM
Meanwhile, Lindsey just got a rave for playing his new material at the Palladium in London.

HomerMcvie
10-10-2022, 11:37 PM
Meanwhile, Lindsey just got a rave for playing his new material at the Palladium in London.

He's the only artist left among them.

jbrownsjr
10-11-2022, 09:37 AM
He's the only artist left among them.

We are so lucky Christine and Lindsey kept writing new material!

HomerMcvie
10-11-2022, 09:53 AM
We are so lucky Christine and Lindsey kept writing new material!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, BuckVie was the perfect swan song for me.

vivfox
10-11-2022, 11:17 AM
Wait. What? Who? Live stuff at this auction?

Yes, it is mentioned in the description somewhere. My best guess though is that it'll be the same footage from Day on the Green that you have so generously shared with us already, if they have video footage of anything.

jbrownsjr
10-11-2022, 01:14 PM
Yes, it is mentioned in the description somewhere. My best guess though is that it'll be the same footage from Day on the Green that you have so generously shared with us already, if they have video footage of anything.

I must have missed that ...

Macfan4life
11-19-2022, 12:40 PM
Has anyone bid on any items? They allow you to online bid before the big auction next month. I must say they have some fun keepsakes that I am tempted on bidding on but I know I wont win. For example, Chris's ashtray from the Mirage tour with cigarette ash and burns still on the tray. I love stuff like this. Makes me want to take up smoking just so I could use it. Chris is selling lots of shoes, boots and clothes but I love her keepsakes.
Now I know what they are doing. The fans will make some great bids on these items but the big dollar bidders will blow everyone out of the water come auction day.

sleepless child
11-19-2022, 01:46 PM
I looked today. I didn't see any live stuff. Chris does have the best to offer. Clothes, jewelry, awards and shoes and pianos and trinkets. I did place about 3 or 4 bids on some jewelry and a vase. We shall see how high things go. I would bid on some of the clothes and shoes, but she isn't my size. She has great taste. John is selling mostly equipment and his bass guitars. Mick is selling anything he can. There are fabric swatches you can bid on. Good lord who want those things. It will be interesting to see what sells and for how high. I just feel like this is the core group saying goodbye, we are done. Very sad.

Villavic
11-20-2022, 09:36 AM
For example, Chris's ashtray from the Mirage tour with cigarette ash and burns still on the tray. .

I wonder if her DNA can be extracted from any of those things, to get a new cloned Christine :laugh:

And while reading this, I also recalled a scene from Priscilla Queen of the Desert, when Adam showed her most precious treasure, a really personal stuff of Agnetha Fältskog (if you haven't see the movie, you don't wanna know what it was, actually a disgusting souvenir :laugh::laugh: )

Karlie
11-20-2022, 05:10 PM
I wonder if her DNA can be extracted from any of those things, to get a new cloned Christine :laugh:

There are some water bottles she used on the most recent tour - that's probably your best bet for DNA. :lol:

Looking through everything I realized she and I wear the same sizes in clothes and shoes, which is cool but way too tempting to bid on everything.

Macfan4life
11-21-2022, 06:26 AM
I saw that Mick is also selling his Bare Trees gold record award. I cant imagine that. If I was a rock star I can understand selling clothes and clutter items. But I would want my gold and platinum record awards on my office wall. But then again he is the only rock star to sell his RRHOF award.

BTW, people are bidding big bucks for Mick's top hats and balls.

HomerMcvie
11-21-2022, 10:12 AM
I saw that Mick is also selling his Bare Trees gold record award. I cant imagine that. If I was a rock star I can understand selling clothes and clutter items. But I would want my gold and platinum record awards on my office wall. But then again he is the only rock star to sell his RRHOF award.

BTW, people are bidding big bucks for Mick's top hats and balls.
What a schmuck. Apparently this is THE END of our band.

I wouldn't want that hat or his clothes. I'll bet they smell. Ain't no Tide gonna wash his funk away.

Macfan4life
11-21-2022, 01:59 PM
What a schmuck. Apparently this is THE END of our band.

I wouldn't want that hat or his clothes. I'll bet they smell. Ain't no Tide gonna wash his funk away.
I would think the achievement of gold and platinum records would be passed on to his kids and grandkids showcasing his success. When Bare Trees was released it would have been a dream for the album to go Gold. Who would guess that the album eventually did go Gold many years after release and Mick would sell his gold record. You would think he was destitute.

I wish I was rich and had lots of money to waste. I would buy his balls for the hundred thousand or more then make a Tik Tok video smashing them with a hammer while Dreams played. No skateboard needed.

David
11-21-2022, 04:13 PM
The Rolling Stones lasting twenty, thirty years — what a stupid idea that would be.
— Lester Bangs, CREEM, December 1973



Rock — the firebrand art of youth, folly, and intensity — met the mass audience and transformed into the geriatric nostalgia and Big Money of “defibrillator” tours. Maybe rock should have disintegrated early, like Beat poetry.

bwboy
11-21-2022, 04:40 PM
I would think the achievement of gold and platinum records would be passed on to his kids and grandkids showcasing his success. When Bare Trees was released it would have been a dream for the album to go Gold. Who would guess that the album eventually did go Gold many years after release and Mick would sell his gold record. You would think he was destitute.


If my dad was a famous rocker who left me his gold or platinum albums when he died, the first thing I would do is sell them. Maybe Mick knows his kids have no interest in that stuff and has decided to cash in now and make the money part of their inheritance. Who knows? Would I do that, if I had gold or platinum certificates? No. But if they were my dads? Hell yeah I’d sell them. And selling his RRHOF trophy isn’t a big deal to me- whether he keeps the award or sells it or melts it for scrap metal or uses it as a door stopper, he’s still in the HOF regardless. It’s not an insult if he offers it for auction. The honor is still his, no matter what he does with the trophy.

At least the fans have a chance to buy the items.

Macfan4life
11-21-2022, 04:53 PM
If my dad was a famous rocker who left me his gold or platinum albums when he died, the first thing I would do is sell them. Maybe Mick knows his kids have no interest in that stuff and has decided to cash in now and make the money part of their inheritance. Who knows? Would I do that, if I had gold or platinum certificates? No. But if they were my dads? Hell yeah I’d sell them. And selling his RRHOF trophy isn’t a big deal to me- whether he keeps the award or sells it or melts it for scrap metal or uses it as a door stopper, he’s still in the HOF regardless. It’s not an insult if he offers it for auction. The honor is still his, no matter what he does with the trophy.

At least the fans have a chance to buy the items.
Oh come on now :)

If Ye won a Grammy and melted it down and flushed it down the toilet you would say the same thing? Its not disrespectful since he still won it. How could you not think its tacky and disrespectful to the RRHOF. Whether you sell it, throw it away, melt it down and flush it, its all the same disrespect IMHO. Why bother to go to the ceremony if you treat their honor and gift with monetary greed. Clearly he thinks the RRHOF is no big deal now because he's not selling his Rumours Grammy. Its just more disrespect to the RRHOF and I hate the RRHOF. But the Mac was one of the first bands to get in so it did mean something back then especially the great lengths Mick went to make sure Bob Welch was not invited.

The record awards are not monetary in my book. Its more ceremony. I think they look so cool hanging on a wall especially today since albums dont really sell anymore. If you don't want such a music honor then donate them to the Hard Rock somewhere.

bwboy
11-21-2022, 05:27 PM
Oh come on now :)

If Ye won a Grammy and melted it down and flushed it down the toilet you would say the same thing? Its not disrespectful since he still won it. How could you not think its tacky and disrespectful to the RRHOF. Whether you sell it, throw it away, melt it down and flush it, its all the same disrespect IMHO. Why bother to go to the ceremony if you treat their honor and gift with monetary greed. Clearly he thinks the RRHOF is no big deal now because he's not selling his Rumours Grammy. Its just more disrespect to the RRHOF and I hate the RRHOF. But the Mac was one of the first bands to get in so it did mean something back then especially the great lengths Mick went to make sure Bob Welch was not invited.

The record awards are not monetary in my book. Its more ceremony. I think they look so cool hanging on a wall especially today since albums dont really sell anymore. If you don't want such a music honor then donate them to the Hard Rock somewhere.

Well, if Mick melted it and flushed it down the toilet, then yeah, you’re right, that would be disrespectful. But that’s totally different then letting fans bid on it, in my eyes.

I’m curious what you meant when you said FM was one of the first bands inducted into the RARHOF. They were? I thought they had been nominated several times, but were only inducted after the Dance came out.

I also wasn’t aware Mick worked hard to keep Bob Welch from being included. I thought the band took a vote and Lindsey and Stevie were outvoted. Or maybe I am misremembering or read inaccurate information about that. I don’t remember Mick being the mastermind behind the decision to keep Bob free being part of the honor.

Macfan4life
11-21-2022, 05:36 PM
Well, if Mick melted it and flushed it down the toilet, then yeah, you’re right, that would be disrespectful. But that’s totally different then letting fans bid on it, in my eyes.

I’m curious what you meant when you said FM was one of the first bands inducted into the RARHOF. They were? I thought they had been nominated several times, but were only inducted after the Dance came out.

I also wasn’t aware Mick worked hard to keep Bob Welch from being included. I thought the band took a vote and Lindsey and Stevie were outvoted. Or maybe I am misremembering or read inaccurate information about that. I don’t remember Mick being the mastermind behind the decision to keep Bob free being part of the honor.
My brain and fingers were not on the same page. I meant to say they got in first ballot which is an honor which means the first year they were eligible they made it. Is it not 20 years before someone can be nominated?
At least my memory is they got in first ballot. In any event, IMHO it does not matter when. Mick will be the first living member to sell his award I believe.

HomerMcvie
11-21-2022, 11:40 PM
If my dad was a famous rocker who left me his gold or platinum albums when he died, the first thing I would do is sell them. Maybe Mick knows his kids have no interest in that stuff and has decided to cash in now and make the money part of their inheritance. Who knows? Would I do that, if I had gold or platinum certificates? No. But if they were my dads? Hell yeah I’d sell them. And selling his RRHOF trophy isn’t a big deal to me- whether he keeps the award or sells it or melts it for scrap metal or uses it as a door stopper, he’s still in the HOF regardless. It’s not an insult if he offers it for auction. The honor is still his, no matter what he does with the trophy.

At least the fans have a chance to buy the items.
You're absolutely RIDICULOUS. That is all.

bwboy
11-22-2022, 10:30 PM
I just saw Christine is selling several of her awards, including AMA trophies, plus platinum certifications. I guess she must not care about those honors. She should be ashamed of herself. A lot of people would liked to have won awards or have albums that went gold or platinum. It’s such a slap in the face!

I think it should be illegal for Mick, John, and Christine to sell these honors and awards- who do they think they are? John should be forced to keep that surfboard Stevie got him forever. There’s no reason he can’t just keep it in storage.

The clothes Christine is selling should have been donated to the Salvation Army, or some other second hand store. It’s unacceptable that she’s offering fans the opportunity to purchase these items. She has enough money, anyway. Who cares if some of the proceeds go to charity- it’s probably only 10% anyway. Who cares if the total collected is $1 million- that means only 10%, or $100,000, would actually go charity. Peanuts! I doubt if any charity would take such a small amount.

jbrownsjr
11-24-2022, 12:32 PM
The river goes on and on, and the sea that divides us is a temporary one.


Happy Thanksgiving!

HomerMcvie
11-24-2022, 01:25 PM
The river goes on and on, and the sea that divides us is a temporary one.


Happy Thanksgiving!

Mick Fleetwood is the biggest turkey of them all...

Happy Thanksgiving!

FuzzyPlum
11-24-2022, 03:33 PM
If my dad was a famous rocker who left me his gold or platinum albums when he died, the first thing I would do is sell them. Maybe Mick knows his kids have no interest in that stuff and has decided to cash in now and make the money part of their inheritance. Who knows? Would I do that, if I had gold or platinum certificates? No. But if they were my dads? Hell yeah I’d sell them. And selling his RRHOF trophy isn’t a big deal to me- whether he keeps the award or sells it or melts it for scrap metal or uses it as a door stopper, he’s still in the HOF regardless. It’s not an insult if he offers it for auction. The honor is still his, no matter what he does with the trophy.

At least the fans have a chance to buy the items.

If I’d been awarded such honours I’d treasure them forever. And if my dad/mum sold them I’d be heartbroken. They’d be the number one thing I’d want to inherit. Why oh why would anyone ever sell anything like that?….unless they were totally broke?

DownOnRodeo
11-24-2022, 09:11 PM
John should be forced to keep that surfboard Stevie got him forever. There’s no reason he can’t just keep it in storage.

:laugh: <laughlaugh>

HomerMcvie
11-25-2022, 01:22 AM
:laugh: <laughlaugh>

BW lives on a different plane....

bwboy
11-25-2022, 06:20 AM
BW lives on a different plane....

Dude, I don’t even like flying, so no way would I live on a plane. Sheesh!

Macfan4life
11-25-2022, 09:55 AM
Dude, I don’t even like flying, so no way would I live on a plane. Sheesh!
And you'll go fast like a jet plane
And you'll go fast like a star stream

whispering the words....one more time
dont let that golden hair get in your way baby

UnwindedDreams
11-25-2022, 10:51 AM
And you'll go fast like a jet plane
And you'll go fast like a star stream

whispering the words....one more time
dont let that golden hair get in your way baby
I would love to see what moves Stevie would present for a performance of that song. It's like she's trying to sing Let The Music Play. Perhaps it would be a tambourine shake.

HomerMcvie
11-25-2022, 11:32 AM
Dude, I don’t even like flying, so no way would I live on a plane. Sheesh!

I don't fly, unless absolutely necessary, but I was referring to a different form of plane.

vivfox
11-26-2022, 11:06 AM
Mick Fleetwood is the biggest turkey of them all...

Happy Thanksgiving!


Has anyone noticed it's always fair game to trash Mick Fleetwood? None of us ever come to his defense because I believe generally we all agree he is a shmuck. But when anyone trashes Stevie or Lindsey a multitude of people come in here thinking it's their job to defend their hero.

HomerMcvie
11-26-2022, 11:31 AM
Has anyone noticed it's always fair game to trash Mick Fleetwood? None of us ever come to his defense because I believe generally we all agree he is a shmuck. But when anyone trashes Stevie or Lindsey a multitude of people come in here thinking it's their job to defend their hero.

Well, $tevie has a CULT. She could murder 10k children, and her cult would defend her actions.

bwboy
11-26-2022, 11:39 AM
Has anyone noticed it's always fair game to trash Mick Fleetwood? None of us ever come to his defense because I believe generally we all agree he is a shmuck. But when anyone trashes Stevie or Lindsey a multitude of people come in here thinking it's their job to defend their hero.

I would say that’s because fans feel more of a connection to the three singer/songwriters than to the drummer or bassist.

UnwindedDreams
11-26-2022, 12:02 PM
Well, $tevie has a CULT. She could murder 10k children, and her cult would defend her actions.
She was DJT before 2015.

bwboy
11-26-2022, 12:50 PM
Well, $tevie has a CULT. She could murder 10k children, and her cult would defend her actions.

Thank heavens none of Lindsey’s fans act that way! You know, can do no wrong, kept the band together (except when he left), making Tango so Mick would have money, lying that Buck/Vie wasn’t a Fleetwood Mac album UNTIL he was fired, then he grew some balls and said it really was a FM album. And even then, people defended him- “well, when he was a member he HAD to lie to the fans!” My personal favorite example his fans give of what a generous person Lindsey was- when they point out the time he had a drug dealer living in an RV on his property so Mick would have access to drugs while making Tango. Wow- now that’s a friend! As opposed to, say, encouraging Mick to seek help. But no, that’s just the kind of person Lindsey was LOL!

Yeah, like you said, the fanaticism only applies to Stevie cult members.

HomerMcvie
11-26-2022, 01:24 PM
Thank heavens none of Lindsey’s fans act that way! You know, can do no wrong, kept the band together (except when he left), making Tango so Mick would have money, lying that Buck/Vie wasn’t a Fleetwood Mac album UNTIL he was fired, then he grew some balls and said it really was a FM album. And even then, people defended him- “well, when he was a member he HAD to lie to the fans!” My personal favorite example his fans give of what a generous person Lindsey was- when they point out the time he had a drug dealer living in an RV on his property so Mick would have access to drugs while making Tango. Wow- now that’s a friend! As opposed to, say, encouraging Mick to seek help. But no, that’s just the kind of person Lindsey was LOL!

Yeah, like you said, the fanaticism only applies to Stevie cult members.
I follow NO ONE blindly. Christine was always my favorite. But she's a company shill. Keeps Bob out of the HOF, then doesn't save Lindsey from the old goat getting him fired? She most definitely isn't Super Woman.
These are ALL highly flawed people.

But yeah, Mick is a LOSER.

UnwindedDreams
11-26-2022, 01:51 PM
Thank heavens none of Lindsey’s fans act that way! You know, can do no wrong, kept the band together (except when he left), making Tango so Mick would have money, lying that Buck/Vie wasn’t a Fleetwood Mac album UNTIL he was fired, then he grew some balls and said it really was a FM album. And even then, people defended him- “well, when he was a member he HAD to lie to the fans!” My personal favorite example his fans give of what a generous person Lindsey was- when they point out the time he had a drug dealer living in an RV on his property so Mick would have access to drugs while making Tango. Wow- now that’s a friend! As opposed to, say, encouraging Mick to seek help. But no, that’s just the kind of person Lindsey was LOL!

Yeah, like you said, the fanaticism only applies to Stevie cult members.
HomerMcVie has said Lindsey's voice is shot now and has brought up Lindsey's alleged beating of CAH in that he denounced it; definitely not a Lindsey worshipper, but I've seen HM appreciate Lindsey's artistry. HomerMcVie, I've always seen as a diehard Christine fan.

Bwboy, have you ever had any criticism of Stevie Nicks? I've seen you excuse her stale setlists by saying COVID's still here so she doesn't rehearse that much and that's not true. She rehearsed one month before this last tour and even rehearsed in between legs.

HomerMcvie
11-26-2022, 05:25 PM
HomerMcVie has said Lindsey's voice is shot now and has brought up Lindsey's alleged beating of CAH in that he denounced it; definitely not a Lindsey worshipper, but I've seen HM appreciate Lindsey's artistry. HomerMcVie, I've always seen as a diehard Christine fan.

Bwboy, have you ever had any criticism of Stevie Nicks? I've seen you excuse her stale setlists by saying COVID's still here so she doesn't rehearse that much and that's not true. She rehearsed one month before this last tour and even rehearsed in between legs.

Thank you. Lindsey has long been my second favorite, and honestly, HE'S THE REASON they rose to such heights. They couldn't have done it without his vision.

BW refuses to own his Chiffon gown, but the truth is so obvious to all of us.

You said that $tevie "rehearsed between legs". I'll bet it's not the first time! :lol::lol::lol:
(I know, I'm 12)

jbrownsjr
11-26-2022, 07:26 PM
I love Mick! I think he's a fantastic drummer. In 2018 he rocked the house. He's an important personality to the band and put some great FMac incarnations together.

When I listen to the full catalog, I realize just how good McVie/McVie/Fleetwood are!! No matter what was thrown at them comp wise, they could hang and get the job done in an interesting and moving way. Mick is why we have a history of this band and why it's kept going for so long. I recently listened to his drumming on Heroes and it's just fantastic.


Am I disappointed that he sold out to Nick$ mgmt. Of course. But I don't think anyone had a choice because of how powerful her cult has/had become.

I'm grateful to get a long beautiful history of albums, concerts and shows. And yes, $tevie Nicks, ruined the band.

bwboy
11-26-2022, 07:41 PM
Bwboy, have you ever had any criticism of Stevie Nicks? I've seen you excuse her stale setlists by saying COVID's still here so she doesn't rehearse that much and that's not true. She rehearsed one month before this last tour and even rehearsed in between legs.

I didn’t really mean to excuse her stale setlist, but I guess I did. I saw it more as a possible explanation, rather than an excuse.

I have very critical thoughts of Stevie. Why do I focus on other band members? Because it annoys me when some people criticize her for doing something, yet don’t say anything when Lindsey or Christine or John or Mick do it.

Example- “Stevie never gets asked the hard questions because her ‘people’ are there shielding her.” I have no problem with that, but guess what- so does Lindsey. Now how do I know this? Well, there was an interview with Lindsey right when Buck/Vie came out, where the reporter asked Lindsey why it wasn’t released as a FM album, when all the members but Stevie had worked on it. Lindsey hemmed and hawed and said something like it was always conceived as a duets album, etc and the reporter pressed him on that and that was when Lindsey’s publicist/agent/whatever stepped in and told the reporter the interview would be terminated if he continued with that line of questioning. Compare that to an interview in Out magazine where the reporter asked her about the rumours that someone used to blow coke up her *beep* and Stevie shot him down with her silence, but continued the interview. If someone intervened on Stevie’s behalf, the reporter didn’t bother to share that, but I believe he would have if it had happened. He said it was uncomfortable LOL.

Another example- “Stevie and Mick are to blame for Lindsey’s firing.” I have no problem with that statement, except it doesn’t include Christine and John. People have said they didn’t want to tour without Lindsey but they were under contract. Yes, and so we’re Mick and Stevie. The simple fact is, if Christine or John had said they wouldn’t have toured without Lindsey, then they wouldn’t have toured without Lindsey. They went along with the firing, but Stevie and Mick are the ones who seem to get the sole blame, at least among Lindsey fanatics.

Stevie wouldn’t tour if Lindsey was in the band? How about when Lindsey said he wouldn’t record with FM if Christine didn’t tour with them? Christine wanted to record but not tour, and Lindsey refused. Again, the rest of the band went along with him, so they’re just as much to blame. They knew the big money lay in touring, so in order to tour, they didn’t let Christine join them in the studio.

Criticism of Stevie? I’ve always said how much I hate When I See You Again, her remake of Crystal, and any album after the Other Side of the Mirror. I found her performance in the Mirage video to be fake and over the top, from her ‘speaking in tongues’ spectacle to the way she followed Lindsey around the stage so that she could get in every frame he was in when the camera was on him. It was gross watching her try to hog the camera.

I agree she’s shielded from the world and surrounded by yes people. I think her setlist shave been stale with two exceptions- Enchanted and Trouble in Shangri-La. Beyond stale, actually. I’ve seen her twice solo and Fleetwood Mac four times. I’ve seen Lindsey once. If ipI had known that he was going to be fired and that the pandemic was coming, I would have seen Lindsey and Christine on their tour, but who knew. If I had the opportunity to meet any of the band members, I would choose Mick in a heartbeat, because I think he would be the most talkative of the bunch. Christine might be next, but I’ve always had a feeling she isn’t crazy about talking to fans, although other people have said she’s been gracious when interacting with fans. I’d love to talk to her about her songs, though. Stevie and Lindsey, I think conversation would be very limited, as I’m not a musician so I don't think I’d have much to say to Lindsey, and Stevie just seems hot and cold and again I wouldn’t know what to say to either of them they haven’t already heard a million times. John I can’t even imagine what I’d say to him.

I’m much more familiar with Stevie’s solo music because she’s released the most solo material. I’m happy that Lindsey is becoming much more prolific than he’s ever been, but honestly, it’s too late for me. I hated Say You Will for the most part, and found the new songs on the EP and the Dance CD forgettable. That’s why I don’t care that FM hasn’t recorded anything new- seeing them live, I’d rather hear deep cuts than new songs any day from FM.

The Catdancer
11-27-2022, 12:45 PM
I didn’t really mean to excuse her stale setlist, but I guess I did. I saw it more as a possible explanation, rather than an excuse.

I have very critical thoughts of Stevie. Why do I focus on other band members? Because it annoys me when some people criticize her for doing something, yet don’t say anything when Lindsey or Christine or John or Mick do it.

Example- “Stevie never gets asked the hard questions because her ‘people’ are there shielding her.” I have no problem with that, but guess what- so does Lindsey. Now how do I know this? Well, there was an interview with Lindsey right when Buck/Vie came out, where the reporter asked Lindsey why it wasn’t released as a FM album, when all the members but Stevie had worked on it. Lindsey hemmed and hawed and said something like it was always conceived as a duets album, etc and the reporter pressed him on that and that was when Lindsey’s publicist/agent/whatever stepped in and told the reporter the interview would be terminated if he continued with that line of questioning. Compare that to an interview in Out magazine where the reporter asked her about the rumours that someone used to blow coke up her *beep* and Stevie shot him down with her silence, but continued the interview. If someone intervened on Stevie’s behalf, the reporter didn’t bother to share that, but I believe he would have if it had happened. He said it was uncomfortable LOL.

Another example- “Stevie and Mick are to blame for Lindsey’s firing.” I have no problem with that statement, except it doesn’t include Christine and John. People have said they didn’t want to tour without Lindsey but they were under contract. Yes, and so we’re Mick and Stevie. The simple fact is, if Christine or John had said they wouldn’t have toured without Lindsey, then they wouldn’t have toured without Lindsey. They went along with the firing, but Stevie and Mick are the ones who seem to get the sole blame, at least among Lindsey fanatics.

Stevie wouldn’t tour if Lindsey was in the band? How about when Lindsey said he wouldn’t record with FM if Christine didn’t tour with them? Christine wanted to record but not tour, and Lindsey refused. Again, the rest of the band went along with him, so they’re just as much to blame. They knew the big money lay in touring, so in order to tour, they didn’t let Christine join them in the studio.

Criticism of Stevie? I’ve always said how much I hate When I See You Again, her remake of Crystal, and any album after the Other Side of the Mirror. I found her performance in the Mirage video to be fake and over the top, from her ‘speaking in tongues’ spectacle to the way she followed Lindsey around the stage so that she could get in every frame he was in when the camera was on him. It was gross watching her try to hog the camera.

I agree she’s shielded from the world and surrounded by yes people. I think her setlist shave been stale with two exceptions- Enchanted and Trouble in Shangri-La. Beyond stale, actually. I’ve seen her twice solo and Fleetwood Mac four times. I’ve seen Lindsey once. If ipI had known that he was going to be fired and that the pandemic was coming, I would have seen Lindsey and Christine on their tour, but who knew. If I had the opportunity to meet any of the band members, I would choose Mick in a heartbeat, because I think he would be the most talkative of the bunch. Christine might be next, but I’ve always had a feeling she isn’t crazy about talking to fans, although other people have said she’s been gracious when interacting with fans. I’d love to talk to her about her songs, though. Stevie and Lindsey, I think conversation would be very limited, as I’m not a musician so I don't think I’d have much to say to Lindsey, and Stevie just seems hot and cold and again I wouldn’t know what to say to either of them they haven’t already heard a million times. John I can’t even imagine what I’d say to him.

I’m much more familiar with Stevie’s solo music because she’s released the most solo material. I’m happy that Lindsey is becoming much more prolific than he’s ever been, but honestly, it’s too late for me. I hated Say You Will for the most part, and found the new songs on the EP and the Dance CD forgettable. That’s why I don’t care that FM hasn’t recorded anything new- seeing them live, I’d rather hear deep cuts than new songs any day from FM.

I've met them all, several times actually and I can tell you from experience that Mick is a dick. He's arrogant and dismissive except if he thinks you work for the press and/or radio station and promote the band. Only than he is nice.
Stevie has/had a great sense of humor, Christine is/was very nice and lovely to talk to, Lindsey is/was very talkative and sweet and John is/was fun to be around especially because of his dry sense of humor. He's the one that made the remark "It's not a bloody fashion show" when Stevie had been shopping in Paris.

I have to admit that I have no idea what they're like now because I met them all in the 80's, beginning of the 90's.

HomerMcvie
11-27-2022, 01:22 PM
I've met them all, several times actually and I can tell you from experience that Mick is a dick. He's arrogant and dismissive except if he thinks you work for the press and/or radio station and promote the band. Only than he is nice.
Stevie has/had a great sense of humor, Christine is/was very nice and lovely to talk to, Lindsey is/was very talkative and sweet and John is/was fun to be around especially because of his dry sense of humor. He's the one that made the remark "It's not a bloody fashion show" when Stevie had been shopping in Paris.

I have to admit that I have no idea what they're like now because I met them all in the 80's, beginning of the 90's.
So you met the drugged up versions?

bwboy
11-27-2022, 03:09 PM
I've met them all, several times actually and I can tell you from experience that Mick is a dick. He's arrogant and dismissive except if he thinks you work for the press and/or radio station and promote the band. Only than he is nice.
Stevie has/had a great sense of humor, Christine is/was very nice and lovely to talk to, Lindsey is/was very talkative and sweet and John is/was fun to be around especially because of his dry sense of humor. He's the one that made the remark "It's not a bloody fashion show" when Stevie had been shopping in Paris.

Well, just goes to show what I know LOL. For some reason that surprises me about Mick and John. Maybe I was thinking since the other three get the bulk of adoration from the fans, that maybe Mick would appreciate the fans who make an effort to speak to him. John, well he’s a bit of an enigma to me, but that’s nice to hear you enjoyed speaking to him.

Just curious, how have you had the opportunity to meet them? Backstage passes? Meet and greets?

HomerMcvie
11-27-2022, 03:22 PM
I hung out with a woman who did catering in AZ, and catered back stage at a Stevie show. She said Stevie was horrible, and complained about everything. That nothing was good enough for her.

UnwindedDreams
11-27-2022, 04:09 PM
I hung out with a woman who did catering in AZ, and catered back stage at a Stevie show. She said Stevie was horrible, and complained about everything. That nothing was good enough for her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUD7letpERA
Out of the way, The King is en route!

Macfan4life
11-27-2022, 04:25 PM
I hung out with a woman who did catering in AZ, and catered back stage at a Stevie show. She said Stevie was horrible, and complained about everything. That nothing was good enough for her.
Remember the smoking gun website that posted her 1991 backstage tour demands?

HomerMcvie
11-27-2022, 07:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUD7letpERA
Out of the way, The King is en route!

It's her world. We're just living in it. :lol:

The Catdancer
11-27-2022, 10:07 PM
So you met the drugged up versions?

Yup. But I never noticed anything, maybe I was naive. I was quite young. They didn't act or looked like they were doped up. There was a lot of drinking going though.

The Catdancer
11-27-2022, 10:13 PM
Well, just goes to show what I know LOL. For some reason that surprises me about Mick and John. Maybe I was thinking since the other three get the bulk of adoration from the fans, that maybe Mick would appreciate the fans who make an effort to speak to him. John, well he’s a bit of an enigma to me, but that’s nice to hear you enjoyed speaking to him.

Just curious, how have you had the opportunity to meet them? Backstage passes? Meet and greets?

At first through the record company and later through JC. Also met them at a party through Dennis Dunstan. I had the right contacts back then.
Mick is only nice to you if he can get something out of it. I could be way off but that's the impression I got. He was nice when he thought I worked for the record company or radio station.
John was super nice. He even showed me a pic of his daughter Molly when she was still a baby and said she was conceived on the 5th floor of the hotel where we met :lol:

The Catdancer
11-27-2022, 10:16 PM
I hung out with a woman who did catering in AZ, and catered back stage at a Stevie show. She said Stevie was horrible, and complained about everything. That nothing was good enough for her.

I heard some horrible backstage stories about Stevie too but not when I was around. That was later, in the late 90's and 2000's. I heard that she had totally changed into a diva with bells on. Was even called the B word.

Villavic
11-28-2022, 09:11 AM
If I had the opportunity to meet any of the band members, I would choose Mick in a heartbeat, because I think he would be the most talkative of the bunch.

He was talkative and kind in a Meet & Greet 2014 session. He cordially answered questions like How is John's health, What current singers/musicians do you like, Are you planning to release a video of this tour, etc. Of course he was making good money, so he had to be kind, but I had heard he sometimes bypassed some questions, specially related with excesses, questionable past behaviors, etc. arguing he didn't remember, or answering curt phrases. And that kind of happened with the question Where is Harold? I guess he didn't like that question, answering "He doesn't exist anymore". So sad he said that; in his book there are final words about him (I still have him. He sleeps in an old drum case in my basement.). And I said it's sad cause it is part of funny cool memories he shared with Jeremy and the old band. I guess there should be no regrets.

Don't know about the others but from my perception of the old Ask Stevie section at her old website, I guess she wouldn't be communicative. But that's just a perception.

dougl
11-29-2022, 09:11 AM
https://youtu.be/9f3bjZhfL24

jbrownsjr
11-29-2022, 12:45 PM
^^^ Good lord!

Macfan4life
02-20-2024, 06:59 AM
Since this thread was announcing the auction, Micks RRHOF award sold for $16k which included a magazine with photos of the band with the award. It sold for average estimated worth. I still cant believe he sold it. Regardless of what you think of the Hall of Fame, its an exclusive club. Is Mick the only one that sold his award? I am sure he spent the $16k by now.

https://www.julienslive.com/lot-details/index/catalog/443/lot/196527/MICK-FLEETWOOD-1998-ROCK-ROLL-HALL-OF-FAME-AWARD-WITH-MAGAZINE?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F443%3Fpage%3D8

jbrownsjr
02-20-2024, 09:34 AM
Since this thread was announcing the auction, Micks RRHOF award sold for $16k which included a magazine with photos of the band with the award. It sold for average estimated worth. I still cant believe he sold it. Regardless of what you think of the Hall of Fame, its an exclusive club. Is Mick the only one that sold his award? I am sure he spent the $16k by now.

https://www.julienslive.com/lot-details/index/catalog/443/lot/196527/MICK-FLEETWOOD-1998-ROCK-ROLL-HALL-OF-FAME-AWARD-WITH-MAGAZINE?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F443%3Fpage%3D8

My view on Mick is this: Without him, we would have missed out on a lot of great shows and music. And that's the bottom line. I love MIck.

Villavic
02-20-2024, 09:52 AM
My view on Mick is this: Without him, we would have missed out on a lot of great shows and music. And that's the bottom line. I love MIck.

I don't love Mick but you are right. And probably he was behind the reissues with alternate versions that I do love.

I wouldn't sell an award, but he is free to do what he wants.

HomerMcvie
02-20-2024, 11:22 AM
I don't love Mick but you are right. And probably he was behind the reissues with alternate versions that I do love.

I wouldn't sell an award, but he is free to do what he wants.

It's absolutely TRASHY for him to sell his award. But that's what Mick is. TRASH.

Macfan4life
02-20-2024, 11:33 AM
My point is that people sell stuff all the time, costumes, autographs, instruments, etc.
I can see selling small awards like maybe "best video" or something. Each year there are big fights on who gets snubbed or inducted into the RRHOF. It was a major honor for the band in 1998. I would think this is the one thing you would want to hold on to like a Grammy. How about donating it to some Hard Rock somewhere. For the price he got for that award is about what he earned during one of his meet and greets. That's pathetic even for him. Would you not want it on your shelf next to your Grammy? He can make $16k meeting fans anytime. But you only get this once in life. If I was part of the hall, I would revoke it from him :lol:

jbrownsjr
02-22-2024, 03:57 PM
I was just announced they are auctioning Stevie's taped tambourine.

soul_drifter333
02-22-2024, 04:53 PM
Pass, but if it was a cowbell well that would be different. :laugh:

I was just announced they are auctioning Stevie's taped tambourine.

jbrownsjr
02-23-2024, 08:58 AM
Pass, but if it was a cowbell well that would be different. :laugh:

How about the stuffed animal she tried to rip out of Christine's hands. :angel: