Christine McVie Songbird Info

[dougl]

Christine McVie Songbird: A Solo Collection Track Listing
Friend
Sweet Revenge
The Challenge
Northern Star
Ask Anybody
Slow Down
Easy Come, Easy Go
Givin’ It Back
All You Gotta Do
Songbird (Orchestral)

https://bestclassicbands.com/fleetwood-mac-2022-stevie-nicks-tour-christine-mcvie-songbird-4-19-22/

[jbrownsjr]

Christine McVie Songbird: A Solo Collection Track Listing
Friend
Sweet Revenge
The Challenge
Northern Star
Ask Anybody
Slow Down
Easy Come, Easy Go
Givin’ It Back
All You Gotta Do
Songbird (Orchestral)

https://bestclassicbands.com/fleetwood-mac-2022-stevie-nicks-tour-christine-mcvie-songbird-4-19-22/

Now I'm even more confused.

[dougl]

Slow Down is available now on iTunes.

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, you can knock me over, I'm in shock.

[elle]

Slow Down on youtube (no embed in this forum) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkO5VCpbc1E

[tango87]

'Slow Down' is fun... Are these 'obscurities' and plus a couple of outtakes, then? It seems to be mostly 'In The Meantime' to me.

[Macfan4life]

Thanks for posting. Wow a lost track from 1985!!!!!

I love the album In The Meantime but I think Sweet Revenge is the weakest song but it made this album. Should have been You Are or Calummy instead.

[Phoenixgypsy]

Is "Slow Down" an outtake from the Christine McVie album? The snippet I heard on ITunes sounds good!

[Macfan4life]

Is "Slow Down" an outtake from the Christine McVie album? The snippet I heard on ITunes sounds good!
No. The article states it was recorded for a movie soundtrack. But the movie never used the song. She used the same musicians as her 1984 album but it appears to have been recorded post her 1983 solo recordings.

[jbrownsjr]

No. The article states it was recorded for a movie soundtrack. But the movie never used the song. She used the same musicians as her 1984 album but it appears to have been recorded post her 1983 solo recordings.

It truly sounds like a great soundtrack. The other song title is in the lyrics of this tune.

[jbrownsjr]

Is "Slow Down" an outtake from the Christine McVie album? The snippet I heard on ITunes sounds good!

https://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/christine-mcvie-songbird-collection-unreleased-solo-music/

[aleuzzi]

Now I'm even more confused.

Whaaaaaaaat?! This is bizarre. I'm loving that anything is coming out. But, wow...so strange.

[aleuzzi]

I thought she said the songs would be radically different than their original versions. This, and the fact that the album has its own producer, suggests new takes on old songs. Are these new versions? Or is this just a half-baked greatest hits from two albums plus two previously-unreleased songs? I'm not getting what's happening or not happening.

Edit: Okay, I see that Johns is remastering the old stuff and has re-arranged "Songbird" with the original vocals in tact. Given the underwhelming song selection (there were plenty of songs to use instead of "Easy Come Easy Go" and "Sweet Revenge") and the absence of any new material, save two unreleased tunes, I'm officially disappointed.

[David]

Or is this just a half-baked greatest hits from two albums plus two previously-unreleased songs?
It couldn’t be because — her two biggest solo hits aren’t included, right?

Okay, I see that Johns is remastering the old stuff and has re-arranged "Songbird" with the original vocals in tact.
This feels like a very weird project for Glyn Johns. Doesn’t he prefer a tougher expression of rock and roll? His discography is filled with the Stones and Satriani and Ryan Adams and the Clash and Bruce Cockburn and the Who and Midnight Oil and so on. His musical leanings just don’t scream “Christine McVie” to me. So why is he taking a handful of her soft rock and adding new production? Did he come down with dementia? Did she?

Did she have one further throw-away obligation on an old recording contract?

[bombaysaffires]

This actually makes sense to me given that any of the original Rumours recordings would require multiple entities to sign off on. Looks like she got the ok for Songbird (vocals only?) but the rest is a way to cash in on other bits of her catalog that don't require FM agreement... and with her having sold her publishing rights seems like she might have to get permission from whoever the new owner of the rights is to use any of them...? Were any of her post-FM solo songs sold as part of her publishing rights?? Seems like maybe not and that those are the only songs she still has full rights to use?

[bombaysaffires]

Did she have one further throw-away obligation on an old recording contract?

that would at least make sense

[BombaySapphire3]

Yeah ...I thought it was going to be an orchestrated version of all her big hits like the one that Rod Stewart put out recently. Most of them are songs from an album that only sold a few thousand copies. Songbird is the only song that the general public will know.

[SteveMacD]

To borrow a phrase from Stevie, I don't get the concept.

[UnwindedDreams]

I can't wait to see the tour supporting this collection:laugh:

[DownOnRodeo]

Wow, what an unexpectedly eclectic and decidedly non-FM collection. Good news if you ask me, even if the some of the track choices are a bit "huh?".

Friend
The Challenge
Ask Anybody

Fantastic inclusions.

[sue]

So, this is the new Album she announced on Gary Barlow’s radio show ??
Not what I was expecting at all…

[Macfan4life]

Wow, what an unexpectedly eclectic and decidedly non-FM collection. Good news if you ask me, even if the some of the track choices are a bit "huh?".

Friend
The Challenge
Ask Anybody

Fantastic inclusions.
I'm with you on those songs. I would have also included The Smile I Live For, You Are, Callumy and Bad Journey.

Also if someone wanted to be creative, they should have done a fancy remix of Love Will Show Us How. That song is just begging for a remix. Imagine a more profound drumming and some fancy keyboards thrown in. This mash up just makes you wonder of the possibilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIJ0SsenWDI

[jbrownsjr]

To borrow a phrase from Stevie, I don't get the concept.

That's an understatement. And I think she said, "Premise".
What is this? The only songs you can release? Or, you must release contract clause?

[aleuzzi]

That's an understatement. And I think she said, "Premise".
What is this? The only songs you can release? Or, you must release contract clause?

It’s an Easy Come, Easy Go situation.

[aleuzzi]

To borrow a phrase from Stevie, I don't get the concept.

Yes! She said “I don’t understand their premise”—unusual phrasing for Stevie, which leads me to believe Izof and/or other members of her management team used those words, or told her to say that when asked.

[BigAl84]

It would of been nice if the in the meantime tracks were new arrangements etc. Still, not a bad compilation to have.

[jbrownsjr]

You people do nothing but come in here (in droves) to bash Christine. I'm so sick of it, I'm never coming back here again!!!

[BigAl84]

On amazon, the individual tracks are showing up. Several of them have remix in parenthesis.

https://ibb.co/PccykrQ

[jbrownsjr]

On amazon, the individual tracks are showing up. Several of them have remix in parenthesis.

https://ibb.co/PccykrQ

They do in some magazine articles, too.

[HomerMcvie]

You people do nothing but come in here (in droves) to bash Christine. I'm so sick of it, I'm never coming back here again!!!

Listen here, Buster.... oh wait. :lol::lol::lol:

[elle]

https://1430wcmy.com/2022/04/20/christine-mcvie-to-release-solo-compilation-songbird-in-june-featuring-orchestral-version-of-title-track/

Christine McVie to release solo compilation, ‘Songbird,’ in June, featuring orchestral version of title track
By Matt Friedlander
Apr 20, 2022 | 10:30 AM

Rhino
Last month, Christine McVie revealed in a BBC Radio interview that she had plans to release a new solo album called Songbird that will include a reworked version of her popular Fleetwood Mac ballad of the same name. Now full details of the project have been announced.

The album, Songbird (A Solo Collection), is due out June 24, and is a 10-track compilation made up mostly of previously released tunes songs from two of McVie’s solo albums — her 1984 self-titled effort and 2004’s In the Meantime. All of the tracks have been remastered by famed producer Glyn Johns.

The record also boasts three previously unreleased recordings, including an updated, orchestral version of Fleetwood Mac’s “Songbird” that pairs Christine’s original vocals with a new string arrangement created by Grammy-winning composer and arranger Vince Mendoza.

The other two previously unreleased tracks are “Slowdown,” a song Christine wrote for the 1985 film American Flyers, and “All You Gotta Do,” a duet that McVie recorded with singer/bassist George Hawkins during the In the Meantime sessions. The latter tune wasn’t completed at the time, and Glyn finished the track by adding Ricky Peterson on Hammond organ and Ethan Johns on drums and guitar.

“Slowdown” has been released as an advance digital single.

Songbird includes two interesting songs from the 1984 Christine McVie album. “The Challenge” features backing vocals from Lindsey Buckingham and lead guitar by Eric Clapton. The other song, “Ask Anybody,” was co-written by Christine and Steve Winwood, who contributed backing vocals and piano to the tune.

Songbird can be pre-ordered now, and will issued on CD, on vinyl and digitally. A limited-edition sea-foam green vinyl LP will be available exclusively from Rhino.com.

Here’s the full Songbird (A Solo Collection) track list:

“Friend”
“Sweet Revenge”
“The Challenge”
“Northern Star”
“Ask Anybody”
“Slowdown”*
“Easy Come, Easy Go”
“Giving It Back”
“All You Gotta Do”*
“Songbird” (Orchestral Version)*

* = previously unreleased.

Copyright © 2022, ABC Audio. All rights reserved.

[SteveMacD]

That's an understatement. And I think she said, "Premise".
Yes. That's it.

Either way...

:shrug:

[jbrownsjr]

Yes. That's it.

Either way...

:shrug:

This feels like another, "you have to do this, the contract says if you ever come back.... "

[Villavic]

More than a simple compilation, I'd love to get an outtakes, demos, alternative versions album. The FM deluxe albums were very interesting with those.

[DownOnRodeo]

Manager:
"The challenge is to fulfil a contractual obligation? Slow down, songbird! Giving it back is easy come easy go. Ask anybody! All you gotta do is issue old stuff remastered and repackaged."

Christine:
"Songs like Northern Star?"

Manager:
"Exactly, my friend. Think of it as sweet revenge!"

[Netter75]

I'm surprised Too Much Is Not Enough didn't make an appearance, that song was finished and left off the 1984 album right?

[aleuzzi]

Manager:
"The challenge is to fulfil a contractual obligation? Slow down, songbird! Giving it back is easy come easy go. Ask anybody! All you gotta do is issue old stuff remastered and repackaged."

Christine:
"Songs like Northern Star?"

Manager:
"Exactly, my friend. Think of it as sweet revenge!"

In that conversation, there was no room for Forgiveness.

[Macfan4life]

Would this not have been the perfect opportunity to have included "Cant Help Falling In Love" Its such a little known Chris solo song that you cant really even get on CD. A remaster would have fit on this album.
Songbird orchestra....get that.....The Challenge....Eric Clapton....get that.....Friend....single from ITM....get that......everything else seems like a random spin of the wheel :eek:

[DownOnRodeo]

In that conversation, there was no room for Forgiveness.:D

Because it wasn't just the usual collection of hits, I feel like there must be at least one diehard Christine McVie fan out there in the universe/metaverse for whom this track list is the absolute best tracklist possible. It must feel like Christ(ine)mas for them. That notion makes me happy. I also feel that perhaps Christine had a big say in the track selection

[DownOnRodeo]

Would this not have been the perfect opportunity to have included "Cant Help Falling In Love" Its such a little known Chris solo song that you cant really even get on CD. A remaster would have fit on this album.
Songbird orchestra....get that.....The Challenge....Eric Clapton....get that.....Friend....single from ITM....get that......everything else seems like a random spin of the wheel :eek:

Ask Anybody is heavily Steve Winwood, so perhaps not too random as far as your suggested criteria.

Allow me to be so sincere... I can't stand that cover of Falling in Love. Not that I've heard it in a long while. Not that I plan too, either!

By the way I really like Sweet Revenge.
For me the the weakest track on is Giving It Blah.

[aleuzzi]

Ask Anybody is heavily Steve Winwood, so perhaps not too random as far as your suggested criteria.

Allow me to be so sincere... I can't stand that cover of Falling in Love. Not that I've heard it in a long while. Not that I plan too, either!

By the way I really like Sweet Revenge.
For me the the weakest track on is Giving It Blah.

I'm inclined to agree re: Can't Help Falling In Love. It's pleasant but...underwhelming.

Where this collection baffles me is the omission of songs like "Anything Is Possible," "One in a Million," and "Smile I Live For" whereas a tune like "Easy Come, Easy Go" is considered by most fans to be a throwaway. What are the reasons for some of the more glaring omissions? I can't imagine "Anything Is Possible" is unavailable while "Friend" is.

I do disagree about "Giving It Back," which is, in my humble opinion, the most Fleetwood Mac tune of the first decade of the 2000s. It moves along in this easy, irresistible way, lovely harmonies, a good lead vocal, and fantastic bass work from Hawkins.

[bwboy]

Where this collection baffles me is the omission of songs like "Anything Is Possible," "One in a Million," and "Smile I Live For" whereas a tune like "Easy Come, Easy Go" is considered by most fans to be a throwaway. What are the reasons for some of the more glaring omissions? I can't imagine "Anything Is Possible" is unavailable while "Friend" is.

Just goes to show how fans have different favorites- all three songs you mention are my least favorite on that album.

But I’m in complete agreement with virtually everyone here about the song list on the upcoming cd. I’m confused, surprised, and curious as to how these particular songs were chosen, and why. At first I thought we were going to get a sort of greatest hits package, with some songs having newly recorded vocals and others with just an orchestra worked in. Songs like Songbird obviously, but also a few early FM classics like Warm Ways, Over and Over, Brown Eyes, etc, and then the same with her solo songs, including a few of her singles.

What we’re getting is pretty dang audacious- I don’t know whether to be disappointed or impressed!

[Macfan4life]

Ask Anybody is heavily Steve Winwood, so perhaps not too random as far as your suggested criteria.

Allow me to be so sincere... I can't stand that cover of Falling in Love. Not that I've heard it in a long while. Not that I plan too, either!

By the way I really like Sweet Revenge.
For me the the weakest track on is Giving It Blah.
I dont care for the cover either. When I heard she did an Elvis cover, I was excited. I cant put my finger on why I dont like it but its cold and underwhelming. I was speaking not as my favorite song but an great opportunity as a re-release of a song that few heard. That's all. I think it would have fit better than some others. I dont dislike Sweet Revenge, I just think there are better choices from ITM.
When Stevie did Enchanted, the third disc really put those great soundtrack songs that were hard to get on CD. I think it just was a missed opportunity even though I am not crazy about the song.

[Macfan4life]

Just goes to show how fans have different favorites- all three songs you mention are my least favorite on that album.

But I’m in complete agreement with virtually everyone here about the song list on the upcoming cd. I’m confused, surprised, and curious as to how these particular songs were chosen, and why. At first I thought we were going to get a sort of greatest hits package, with some songs having newly recorded vocals and others with just an orchestra worked in. Songs like Songbird obviously, but also a few early FM classics like Warm Ways, Over and Over, Brown Eyes, etc, and then the same with her solo songs, including a few of her singles.

What we’re getting is pretty dang audacious- I don’t know whether to be disappointed or impressed!
Ok its bad enough you dont like Oh Daddy on the Rumours board but not liking One In A Million and The Smile I live for on the Christine McVie board is a bridge too far. I vote for a 3 day ban.

[bwboy]

Ok its bad enough you dont like Oh Daddy on the Rumours board but not liking One In A Million and The Smile I live for on the Christine McVie board is a bridge too far. I vote for a 3 day ban.

Shoot! And I just got back from my last 3 day ban!

[Jondalar]

This is a totally interesting track listing. Love Will Show Us How and Got A Hold on Me were here only two Top 40 Hits and they aren't here. Very surprised. I'm glad we are getting the Challenge and Friend though.

[PDB]

I'm surprised by the track list, and sad at the omissions of Can't Help Falling In Love and that extra track from In the Meantime that was limited-release ("Come Out To Play"). I have to hope that the reason so many things were left off this collection is because they're planning to reissue her other albums with bonus tracks, but I'm not sure that's going to happen.

[jbrownsjr]

Just goes to show how fans have different favorites- all three songs you mention are my least favorite on that album.



What we’re getting is pretty dang audacious- I don’t know whether to be disappointed or impressed!

I have to agree. I don't know whether to be upset or impressed. I'm leaning to upset. But, the choices are not typical. I'll give her that.

[aleuzzi]

I have to agree. I don't know whether to be upset or impressed. I'm leaning to upset. But, the choices are not typical. I'll give her that.

I’m definitely disappointed and annoyed. Is this project her swan song? Ugh.

[jbrownsjr]

I’m definitely disappointed and annoyed. Is this project her swan song? Ugh.

Like never before with dark around your eyes.

[aleuzzi]

Like never before with dark around your eyes.

They’ll be no more crying when the summer turns into fall.

[jbrownsjr]

They’ll be no more crying when the summer turns into fall.

For boots, there'll be no more summer.

[aleuzzi]

For boots, there'll be no more summer.

Cry for the songbirds

[jbrownsjr]

Cry for the songbirds

And I feel that the winter's really here now.

[aleuzzi]

All winter long, like never before

[David]

All winter long, like never before

Hot fun in the summertime!

[aleuzzi]

Hot fun in the summertime!

Hot child in the meantime.

[jbrownsjr]

Hot child in the meantime.

Red Hot Chili Tusks

[aleuzzi]

Red Hot Chili Tusks

Why don’t you tell me what’s under the bridge

[jbrownsjr]

Why don’t you tell me what’s under the bridge

Temporary Bridge over TROUBLEd Cool Waters.

[aleuzzi]

Temporary Bridge over TROUBLEd Cool Waters.

Time cast a spell on my little demon

[jbrownsjr]

Time cast a spell on my little demon

I don't wanna know what makes you think you're the kind of woman that can be gardened outside the rain.

[aleuzzi]

I don't wanna know what makes you think you're the kind of woman that can be gardened outside the rain.

O mirror in the sky, slip you hand inside of my glove.

[bombaysaffires]

I believe that you really want me, but will you ever win?

[aleuzzi]

I believe that you really want me, but will you ever win?

All your life you’ve never seen a funny little white car with a broken light

[jbrownsjr]

All your life you’ve never seen a funny little white car with a broken light

Ask anybody, if anyone falls they'll say you love me.

[jbrownsjr]

I believe that you really want me, but will you ever win?

There is no use in crying, nothing ever changes.

[aleuzzi]

There is no use in crying, nothing ever changes.

Even in the darkest places of your little demon

[jbrownsjr]

Even in the darkest places of your little demon

Spare me a little Blue Lamp

[aleuzzi]

Spare me a little Blue Lamp

All it took was a special lamp

[jbrownsjr]

All it took was a special lamp

Think About Me, Or It, Before You And I Go (Part 1 and 2)

[aleuzzi]

Think About Me, Or It, Before You And I Go (Part 1 and 2)

I wake up, alone with a devil and an angel

[jbrownsjr]

I wake up, alone with a devil and an angel

If I could make you see the colours of the sea, do not change.

[aleuzzi]

If I could make you see the colours of the sea, do not change.

Why are you right when I’m so lamp?

[jbrownsjr]

Why are you right when I’m so lamp?

The clouds and the sea and the sky and velvet are the limit, now.

[bombaysaffires]

The clouds and the sea and the sky and velvet are the limit, now.

I don't wanna know why the sea changes color but the sea does not change

[bombaysaffires]

It was everything that I had not wanted, I want a new merry go round

[aleuzzi]

I don't wanna know why the sea changes color but the sea does not change

What’s a matter, baby, Baby, I don’t wanna know

[jbrownsjr]

Save me, hold me spare me, show me a smile, save me a place, and surrender the rain.

[HomerMcvie]

Why are you right when I’m so lamp?

At first glance, I read that as LIMP.:lol::woohoo::eek::wavey:

[aleuzzi]

At first glance, I read that as LIMP.:lol::woohoo::eek::wavey:

It’s at least more understandable that way!

[aleuzzi]

Save me, hold me spare me, show me a smile, save me a place, and surrender the rain.

Keep your crystal visions in your funny little white car with a broken light

[HomerMcvie]

It’s at least more understandable that way!

Hey, we're not 25 anymore!:lol:

[jbrownsjr]

Keep your crystal visions in your funny little white car with a broken light

Must you always trust your first initial feeling?

[aleuzzi]

Must you always trust your first initial feeling?

What makes you think you’re the voice I hear in the room next to mine?

[jbrownsjr]

What makes you think you’re the voice I hear in the room next to mine?

WHY, go insane when you can hold me, spare me, say you love me and call me Sugar Daddy all through the door.

[aleuzzi]

WHY, go insane when you can hold me, spare me, say you love me and call me Sugar Daddy all through the door.

It’s not Tara, it’s not even Emmaline.

[HomerMcvie]

WHY, go insane when you can hold me, spare me, say you love me and call me Sugar Daddy all through the door.
Loev is Dangerous! :rolleyes:

[jbrownsjr]

It’s not Tara, it’s not even Emmaline.

It's FRONTLINE BABY!

[michelej1]

What makes you think you’re the voice I hear in the room next to mine?

Closes the door from behind.

[bombaysaffires]

It’s not Tara, it’s not even Emmaline.

There were reasons to be crazy, so traveling girl is moving north, west, east and south

[aleuzzi]

It's FRONTLINE BABY!

I chose to walk across Murrow turning in his grave

[aleuzzi]

There were reasons to be crazy, so traveling girl is moving north, west, east and south

Steal your traveling girl away

[jbrownsjr]

I chose to walk across Murrow turning in his grave

And when we do, I think about you, how can we still our love?

[aleuzzi]

And when we do, I think about you, how can we still our love?

All it took was a special boot all summer long

[aleuzzi]

Closes the door from behind.

Closes the door in that house on the hill.

[aleuzzi]

I wonder what that George Hawkins duet sounds like…

[jbrownsjr]

Closes the door in that house on the hill.

Stares at the stairs over and over and all over again.

[aleuzzi]

Stares at the stairs over and over and all over again.

That sounds like some serious cat house blues, my friend.

[jbrownsjr]

That sounds like some serious cat house blues, my friend.

I just moved to the middle of my room, so I can't hear you Tony!!

[aleuzzi]

I just moved to the middle of my room, so I can't hear you Tony!!

You’ll never get away from the Tony who haunts you...

[jbrownsjr]

You’ll never get away from the Tony who haunts you...

Don't you come too close to me... :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

Don't you come too close to me... :lol:

Or stick your hand inside my glove. Unless you say that you love me.

[aleuzzi]

Don't you come too close to me... :lol:

Now here you go again you say you want your freedom

[HomerMcvie]

Now here you go again you say you want your freedom

I thought the freedom was in your mouth? :p

[aleuzzi]

I thought the freedom was in your mouth? :p

Touché! They say I’m a silly girl

[HomerMcvie]

Touché! They say I’m a silly girl

I've got Hard Feelings, When It Comes To Love.

[jbrownsjr]

Or stick your hand inside my glove. Unless you say that you love me.

and to the floor that I love

[jbrownsjr]

Now here you go again you say you want your freedom

Keep on Never going back again to the Seven Wonders of the floor that i love with stairs

[aleuzzi]

Keep on Never going back again to the Seven Wonders of the floor that i love with stairs

My love is a careless Excalibur that hasn’t been tamed

[tango87]

Christine will be on the Steve Wright In The Afternoon show tomorrow (Thursday 15th June at 14.00 UK time):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/b006wr4r

[aleuzzi]

Christine will be on the Steve Wright In The Afternoon show tomorrow (Thursday 15th June at 14.00 UK time):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/b006wr4r

Thanks for the heads up!!

[jbrownsjr]

Christine will be on the Steve Wright In The Afternoon show tomorrow (Thursday 15th June at 14.00 UK time):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/b006wr4r

I don't see it... Or, am I blind?

[jbrownsjr]

I don't see it... Or, am I blind?

Ok, maybe it's Thursday the 16th and I was looking under 15th.

[tango87]

Ok, maybe it's Thursday the 16th and I was looking under 15th.

Quite right, it's Thursday 16th, i.e. today. I am an idiot.

[jbrownsjr]

Quite right, it's Thursday 16th, i.e. today. I am an idiot.

No name calling! :lol:

[tango87]

No name calling! :lol:

Why deny the truth!

Just listened to the interview - Christine with a heavy cold, coughing away... Rather downbeat, saying she's an old lady, no future plans, but you never know with Fleetwood Mac.

A brief clip of Slow Down - sounds rather bluesy and fun.

[jbrownsjr]

Why deny the truth!

Just listened to the interview - Christine with a heavy cold, coughing away... Rather downbeat, saying she's an old lady, no future plans, but you never know with Fleetwood Mac.

A brief clip of Slow Down - sounds rather bluesy and fun.

I listened with you. Slow Down is available as a single. You can hear it on youtube, etc.

She sounded sick and brought up her back. I think Christine is done. Unless there's a one or three off of something. Doesn't talk to Buck or Nicks.

BuckVie was a gift! I'm glad it happened.

[David]

The closing of a chapter
The opening of a door
Brings forth life
Where there was no life before

TRY KETO!

[Macfan4life]

Well I'm so excited
My Songbird is on its way
I just cant wait just cant wait another day
I know any minute
The Amazon guy will be knocking on my front door
Well I just cant, just cant wait a minute more

[vivfox]

Well I'm so excited
My Songbird is on its way.I know any minute the Amazon guy will be knocking on my front door

Unless someone steals your package.:lol: They don't knock on doors any longer. They just leave the package.

[jbrownsjr]

Well I'm so excited
My Songbird is on its way
I just cant wait just cant wait another day
I know any minute
The Amazon guy will be knocking on my front door
Well I just cant, just cant wait a minute more

I can't eat, I can't sleep.
Since the first time daddy saw me!!

[jbrownsjr]

https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/songbird-is-not-the-christine-mcvie-collection-she-deserves

[SteveMacD]

It would have been better if it had included "I'd Rather Go Blind," "Got A Hold On Me," and "Love Will Show Us How" as well as the live versions of her Fleetwood Mac hits from the Country Club show.

[Macfan4life]

It would have been better if it had included "I'd Rather Go Blind," "Got A Hold On Me," and "Love Will Show Us How" as well as the live versions of her Fleetwood Mac hits from the Country Club show.
I dont think anyone would disagree with that and also including her other movie track "Cant help falling in Love"

But isn't it the consensus that those songs are not on the album because she does not own the rights to them anymore? She put her shoes on backwards. She should have released a best of CD and then the next year sold her catalog.

[Street_Dreamer]

I'm finally listening to the album right now. Just listened to The Challenge again and it's even worse than the first time I heard it. I don't even hear Todd or George. It's like they've been completely erased from the song. Just terrible.

EDIT 1: Ask Anybody might be even worse. It's just so devoid of spirit. It's like whoever made the decision to put this out was worried that some of the songs would sound too "dated" and felt it needed a "modern" sound. Mick's drumming is so key to what makes that song so great. Thank goodness they didn't choose to officially release Too Much Is Not Enough because I'm sure it would have been "modernized" too.

EDIT 2: All You Gotta Do is the one saving grace from this compilation. I didn't realize it was going to be a duet with George and when I heard his vocals, it hit me. This was a very nice surprise.

EDIT 3: WTF is up with this orchestral version of Songbird? Holy hell! The orchestra sounds like it's playing a completely different song. This is one of the worst releases from Fleetwood Mac or any of its members I've ever heard. I think it might be THE worst.

[Macfan4life]

I'm finally listening to the album right now. Just listened to The Challenge again and it's even worse than the first time I heard it. I don't even hear Todd or George. It's like they've been completely erased from the song. Just terrible.

EDIT 1: Ask Anybody might be even worse. It's just so devoid of spirit. It's like whoever made the decision to put this out was worried that some of the songs would sound too "dated" and felt it needed a "modern" sound. Mick's drumming is so key to what makes that song so great. Thank goodness they didn't choose to officially release Too Much Is Not Enough because I'm sure it would have been "modernized" too.

EDIT 2: All You Gotta Do is the one saving grace from this compilation. I didn't realize it was going to be a duet with George and when I heard his vocals, it hit me. This was a very nice surprise.

EDIT 3: WTF is up with this orchestral version of Songbird? Holy hell! The orchestra sounds like it's playing a completely different song. This is one of the worst releases from Fleetwood Mac or any of its members I've ever heard. I think it might be THE worst.
Yeah, the orchestra part is the oddest part of the album IMHO. It should be the highlight of the album called Songbird. I thought maybe it would warm up to me but no. The original is perfection but I am open to an orchestra that plays music that compliments the singing.

[aleuzzi]

I'm finally listening to the album right now. Just listened to The Challenge again and it's even worse than the first time I heard it. I don't even hear Todd or George. It's like they've been completely erased from the song. Just terrible.

EDIT 1: Ask Anybody might be even worse. It's just so devoid of spirit. It's like whoever made the decision to put this out was worried that some of the songs would sound too "dated" and felt it needed a "modern" sound. Mick's drumming is so key to what makes that song so great. Thank goodness they didn't choose to officially release Too Much Is Not Enough because I'm sure it would have been "modernized" too.

EDIT 2: All You Gotta Do is the one saving grace from this compilation. I didn't realize it was going to be a duet with George and when I heard his vocals, it hit me. This was a very nice surprise.

EDIT 3: WTF is up with this orchestral version of Songbird? Holy hell! The orchestra sounds like it's playing a completely different song. This is one of the worst releases from Fleetwood Mac or any of its members I've ever heard. I think it might be THE worst.

Outside of the two “new” old songs, it’s pretty awful. Johns has ruined a number of otherwise fine songs. And the matter of the inclusions and the exclusions is just so head-scratchingly weird.

[BigAl84]

Is it me or does it seem like the bass/bottom end on a lot of these songs are really lacking compared to the originals?

[aleuzzi]

Is it me or does it seem like the bass/bottom end on a lot of these songs are really lacking compared to the originals?

It’s not you. They are mixed down or have been muddied by the new arrangements.

[jbrownsjr]

It’s not you. They are mixed down or have been muddied by the new arrangements.

I want to cry. I really tried to be happy and love this.

It's me that's failed!!! Not Christine!!

[aleuzzi]

I want to cry. I really tried to be happy and love this.

It's me that's failed!!! Not Christine!!

In our hearts, we KNEW this record would not feature new vocals, but somehow the production and song selection seems to have outstripped even my worst fears. This is a head-scratching swansong. It won’t be a disappointment for anyone who wants to get a taste for Christine’s solo work, but those people are few in number, so most of the buyers of this compilation already have the original two solo records. I’m happy for the two “new” songs.

But I was listening to the original 1984 record yesterday. Mick’s drumming on “Ask Anybody” is exceptional, one of the finest features of that song. On “The Challenge,” the original keyboards and echoes may be rooted in 80s production, but they suited the song. Don’t get me started on the changes to “Friend,” “Northern Star,” and “Giving It Back”— all of which were highlights from the original 2004 record.

[WalkAThinLine.]

At the very least, some effort was put into revamping these songs. Going into this compilation, I only anticipated some light remastering, but instead we got brand new mixes. Even for those who prefer the originals (I would put myself in that category), there is little harm in having alternate mixes of Christine McVie songs readily available.

[aleuzzi]

At the very least, some effort was put into revamping these songs. Going into this compilation, I only anticipated some light remastering, but instead we got brand new mixes. Even for those who prefer the originals (I would put myself in that category), there is little harm in having an alternate mixes of Christine McVie songs readily available.

You’re kinder and more generous than I. And you’re right. But man do I hate some of these remixes.

[jbrownsjr]

You’re kinder and more generous than I. And you’re right. But man do I hate some of these remixes.

I'm not hangin around.

God I'm obsessed with that song, though!!

[aleuzzi]

I'm not hangin around.

God I'm obsessed with that song, though!!

I listen to it about three times a day. Why am I obsessed with it so much? It’s catchy, yes, but it ain’t YMLF or SYLM. But still it’s irresistible.

[jbrownsjr]

I listen to it about three times a day. Why am I obsessed with it so much? It’s catchy, yes, but it ain’t YMLF or SYLM. But still it’s irresistible.

Sooner or Later I'll forget it.

[aleuzzi]

Sooner or Later I'll forget it.

And then it will creep up again five years later....

[jbrownsjr]

And then it will creep up again five years later....

All over again!

[Macfan4life]

I finally got around to reading the CD insert and the Chris interview. Some of it was slick packing and promotion because no one asked her about her most known solo songs being missing from the collection.
But I did enjoy one detail. Chris was never for singing Songbird alone as the last song and the last encore. But I learned why Lindsey was added to the mix to strum along. Chris stated that most nights the band was very tight and on the mark but some nights not so much. Sometimes on those off nights Chris would mess up the tempo. She felt alone and wanted Lindsey on stage with her strumming to keep her in time. Small detail but I love to hear things I never knew before.

See Chris all the champagne did impact your playing on some nights :lol:

[jbrownsjr]

I finally got around to reading the CD insert and the Chris interview. Some of it was slick packing and promotion because no one asked her about her most known solo songs being missing from the collection.
But I did enjoy one detail. Chris was never for singing Songbird alone as the last song and the last encore. But I learned why Lindsey was added to the mix to strum along. Chris stated that most nights the band was very tight and on the mark but some nights not so much. Sometimes on those off nights Chris would mess up the tempo. She felt alone and wanted Lindsey on stage with her strumming to keep her in time. Small detail but I love to hear things I never knew before.

See Chris all the champagne did impact your playing on some nights :lol:

I don't think all 3 of them knew exactly just how off key they were some nights. But, I still love that vs. backing tracks and extras.

[HomerMcvie]

See Chris all the champagne did impact your playing on some nights :lol:

Yeah, but the cocaine is supposed to counteract that!

[Macfan4life]

I don't think all 3 of them knew exactly just how off key they were some nights. But, I still love that vs. backing tracks and extras.
The US Festival is incredible with the flubs and off key. It was the last night of the Mirage tour (or at least near the end). They were partying all day and went on last. It showed :lol:
I love it warts and all.

One thing did annoy me in this CD interview. Chris explains that she never wanted to come to the United States and it was Mick and John that convinced her to do it. Once again its not talked about how they just hired their first bloody American. She expects us to believe that was a coincidence? Bob was not trying to convince you too Chris? Its possible without Bob being in the band they may have never come to the States. It just drives me crazy how his impact on the band is glossed over as if it never existed. Bob was the catalyst that brought the band to the States. Its ok to say that Chris.

Other than that, a fairly good promo interview for what it is.

[HomerMcvie]

The US Festival is incredible with the flubs and off key. It was the last night of the Mirage tour (or at least near the end). They were partying all day and went on last. It showed :lol:
I love it warts and all.

One thing did annoy me in this CD interview. Chris explains that she never wanted to come to the United States and it was Mick and John that convinced her to do it. Once again its not talked about how they just hired their first bloody American. She expects us to believe that was a coincidence? Bob was not trying to convince you too Chris? Its possible without Bob being in the band they may have never come to the States. It just drives me crazy how his impact on the band is glossed over as if it never existed. Bob was the catalyst that brought the band to the States. Its ok to say that Chris.

Other than that, a fairly good promo interview for what it is.
Makes you wonder if Irving has told them that "that era never existed", or if she's still bitter at Bob after 25 years?

[Macfan4life]

Makes you wonder if Irving has told them that "that era never existed", or if she's still bitter at Bob after 25 years?
Or maybe they believe their own gaslighting after all these years. Bob is dead so she would be bitter to hold a grudge against him even after his demise. I believe I read on Bob's site many years ago how he convinced the band to give it a go in the states.

[HomerMcvie]

Or maybe they believe their own gaslighting after all these years. Bob is dead so she would be bitter to hold a grudge against him even after his demise. I believe I read on Bob's site many years ago how he convinced the band to give it a go in the states.

But Chris is supposed to be the sane one. We all know what $tevie is.

Nobody is disputing that if Bob's link weren't in the chain, probably NONE of us would be here on this site, now.

Let's face this, THESE AREN'T GOOD PEOPLE.

[aleuzzi]

But Chris is supposed to be the sane one. We all know what $tevie is.

Nobody is disputing that if Bob's link weren't in the chain, probably NONE of us would be here on this site, now.

Let's face this, THESE AREN'T GOOD PEOPLE.

Honestly, I don’t think she mentions Bob because it’s easier for her to mention the two people (part of the Rumours five) most of the general public would still know. This doesn’t excuse the Bob omission. He was treated pretty badly by that band from 1983 onward—after the Bob and friends concert there is rarely ever any recognition of him. Christine and Mick needed to step up and didn’t. But Lindsey is also to blame. Whenever he mentions Bob it’s with a marked degree of disrespect for his legacy. Time and again, Lindsey has made sure the world knew he did NOT dig Bob’s music and resented having to play one or two Bob songs on the first two tours. That kind of consistency in shunning Welch’s contribution is as much to blame as outright omissions. The critics aided Lindsey in this. And the core trio (Fleetwood and the McVies) allowed it. Ironically, through the years, Stevie was occasionally quick to recognize Bob and enumerate his contributions.

[jbrownsjr]

Honestly, I don’t think she mentions Bob because it’s easier for her to mention the two people (part of the Rumours five) most of the general public would still know. This doesn’t excuse the Bob omission. He was treated pretty badly by that band from 1983 onward—after the Bob and friends concert there is rarely ever any recognition of him. Christine and Mick needed to step up and didn’t. But Lindsey is also to blame. Whenever he mentions Bob it’s with a marked degree of disrespect for his legacy. Time and again, Lindsey has made sure the world knew he did NOT dig Bob’s music and resented having to play one or two Bob songs on the first two tours. That kind of consistency in shunning Welch’s contribution is as much to blame as outright omissions. The critics aided Lindsey in this. And the core trio (Fleetwood and the McVies) allowed it. Ironically, through the years, Stevie was occasionally quick to recognize Bob and enumerate his contributions.

It's true. Lindsey quite often marginalizes Bob's music and Stevie has never done that. As if he were some artistic genius and everyone else was always a lounge act. I don't think Lindsey has anything against Bob. He just thinks his music is above what the other writers have put out. And when you listen to his recent stuff, it's mind boggling how he can think any of these lyrics are beyond what Bob wrote.
I don't mind, we've been mellow. :sorry:

[Macfan4life]

It's true. Lindsey quite often marginalizes Bob's music and Stevie has never done that. As if he were some artistic genius and everyone else was always a lounge act. I don't think Lindsey has anything against Bob. He just thinks his music is above what the other writers have put out. And when you listen to his recent stuff, it's mind boggling how he can think any of these lyrics are beyond what Bob wrote.
I don't mind, we've been mellow. :sorry:
Please fill me in what Lindsey said to diminish Bob. I must have missed something. I dont equate Lindsey not wanting to perform Bob's songs as a dis. Lindsey did not want to be a cover band of someone else.
There is one story from Bob's site I would LOVE to ask Lindsey about. Its the story that Bob said he ran into Lindsey shortly after he quit the band and they were recording the White album. Bob said that Lindsey asked him "How the hell did you stand these people?"
I just found that so funny.

I once heard Lindsey diminish Eddie Van Halen and if I did not hear it I would not believe it. It was something like how Van Halen is one dimensional and has no melody. Its just guitar chords. I am paraphrasing badly and cant remember the exact quote I heard in some interview. He wasnt going after Eddie but was comparing his style to his and it sounded like a dis to me because I remember thinking OUCH!

[HomerMcvie]

Although he's mellowed greatly with age, Lindsey was always full of himself.

And yeah, I get that he didn't want to play someone else's hits, but then they shouldn't have joined FM if that were the case.

"Hey Birmingham, how ya doin'?", (to all three Buckingham Nicks fans that are still alive!)

[Macfan4life]

Although he's mellowed greatly with age, Lindsey was always full of himself.

And yeah, I get that he didn't want to play someone else's hits, but then they shouldn't have joined FM if that were the case.

"Hey Birmingham, how ya doin'?", (to all three Buckingham Nicks fans that are still alive!)
Since Lindsey played bass before it was hysterical in Mick's first book when Lindsey told John to do it "this way" during the making of the Fleetwood Mac album. They had a big blow up and then Lindsey learned not to question John and his playing ever again. I think Mick commented that it was a good thing to happen right away to put perimeters around each player. John was not going to let some California new kid on the block tell him how to play bass :lol: I'm John F***ing McVie you bloody berk!

[HomerMcvie]

Since Lindsey played bass before it was hysterical in Mick's first book when Lindsey told John to do it "this way" during the making of the Fleetwood Mac album. They had a big blow up and then Lindsey learned not to question John and his playing ever again. I think Mick commented that it was a good thing to happen right away to put perimeters around each player. John was not going to let some California new kid on the block tell him how to play bass :lol: I'm John F***ing McVie you bloody berk!

Lindsey was a spoiled brat, who was used to always getting his way.

[aleuzzi]

Please fill me in what Lindsey said to diminish Bob. I must have missed something. I dont equate Lindsey not wanting to perform Bob's songs as a dis. Lindsey did not want to be a cover band of someone else.
There is one story from Bob's site I would LOVE to ask Lindsey about. Its the story that Bob said he ran into Lindsey shortly after he quit the band and they were recording the White album. Bob said that Lindsey asked him "How the hell did you stand these people?"
I just found that so funny.

I once heard Lindsey diminish Eddie Van Halen and if I did not hear it I would not believe it. It was something like how Van Halen is one dimensional and has no melody. Its just guitar chords. I am paraphrasing badly and cant remember the exact quote I heard in some interview. He wasnt going after Eddie but was comparing his style to his and it sounded like a dis to me because I remember thinking OUCH!

Lindsey initially bristled against Bob’s legacy and then, once the band became widely popular, overtly discredited it. He has done this on numerous occasions, from 1976-recent years. He recognizes Green and Kirwan as antecedents, but only mentions Bob’s music in a negative context, as a disavowal.

[aleuzzi]

It's true. Lindsey quite often marginalizes Bob's music and Stevie has never done that. As if he were some artistic genius and everyone else was always a lounge act. I don't think Lindsey has anything against Bob. He just thinks his music is above what the other writers have put out. And when you listen to his recent stuff, it's mind boggling how he can think any of these lyrics are beyond what Bob wrote.
I don't mind, we've been mellow. :sorry:

For what it’s worth, when interviewed a year after LB/CM, the interviewer tried to open the door on two or three occasions to get him to say nice things about Christine’s songs and singing and he just wouldn’t do it. He stuck to admiring her commitment craft. That’s as far as he went.

[WalkAThinLine.]

Since Lindsey played bass before it was hysterical in Mick's first book when Lindsey told John to do it "this way" during the making of the Fleetwood Mac album. They had a big blow up and then Lindsey learned not to question John and his playing ever again. I think Mick commented that it was a good thing to happen right away to put perimeters around each player. John was not going to let some California new kid on the block tell him how to play bass :lol: I'm John F***ing McVie you bloody berk!

Buckingham's bass playing isn't even anything special. He rarely ventures out beyond the root notes. I believe one reviewer called the bass playing on Buckingham's eponymous album "uninventive" or something along those lines.

[Villavic]

Bob was the catalyst that brought the band to the States. Its ok to say that Chris.

According to Mick (first book), Mystery was a hit in America, “and Fleetwood Mac at that point didn't mean s**t in Europe”. They had no money coming in, they had a lawsuit thing with Clifford Davies, the Fleetwood Mac name, etc. So yes, Bob was a catalyst though there were many factors that boosted the moving to US.

Bob Welch, in Los Angeles, was anxious to relocate FleetwoodMac to California. On crackling phone ransmissions, he worked to convince me we had to move closer to our all-important record company, our lifeline to our audience. He correctly saw that we couldn't win our lawsuit in England and couldn't make another record until we somehow proved who we were, and renegotiated our record deal. "We can't live on air," he told me. "We'd better get this thing going again somewhere else, or we can forget about it and all get jobs."

I got off the phone and looked around. England in winter seemed desultory, bare, and gray. I felt depressed. Finally I said, look, let's get out of England and go to America. The record company's there, and we have to tell them that we're still here, let's make an album. Neither Christine nor John was keen to do it.

[Macfan4life]

According to Mick (first book), Mystery was a hit in America, “and Fleetwood Mac at that point didn't mean s**t in Europe”. They had no money coming in, they had a lawsuit thing with Clifford Davies, the Fleetwood Mac name, etc. So yes, Bob was a catalyst though there were many factors that boosted the moving to US.

Bob Welch, in Los Angeles, was anxious to relocate FleetwoodMac to California. On crackling phone ransmissions, he worked to convince me we had to move closer to our all-important record company, our lifeline to our audience. He correctly saw that we couldn't win our lawsuit in England and couldn't make another record until we somehow proved who we were, and renegotiated our record deal. "We can't live on air," he told me. "We'd better get this thing going again somewhere else, or we can forget about it and all get jobs."

I got off the phone and looked around. England in winter seemed desultory, bare, and gray. I felt depressed. Finally I said, look, let's get out of England and go to America. The record company's there, and we have to tell them that we're still here, let's make an album. Neither Christine nor John was keen to do it.
Yes and from Bob's perspective it was even more convincing on his part. Luckily he convinced Mick because the McVies were not going to do it.

[jbrownsjr]

Please fill me in what Lindsey said to diminish Bob. I must have missed something. I dont equate Lindsey not wanting to perform Bob's songs as a dis. Lindsey did not want to be a cover band of someone else.
There is one story from Bob's site I would LOVE to ask Lindsey about. Its the story that Bob said he ran into Lindsey shortly after he quit the band and they were recording the White album. Bob said that Lindsey asked him "How the hell did you stand these people?"
I just found that so funny.

I once heard Lindsey diminish Eddie Van Halen and if I did not hear it I would not believe it. It was something like how Van Halen is one dimensional and has no melody. Its just guitar chords. I am paraphrasing badly and cant remember the exact quote I heard in some interview. He wasnt going after Eddie but was comparing his style to his and it sounded like a dis to me because I remember thinking OUCH!


Lindsey liked Bob, and had a hard time dealing with the brits up arrival (yes, they shared that vibe and conversation). It's not as rosy as Christine likes to paint it when they all first met. And yes; she, Mick, and Lindsey even helped him produce and perform on a couple of Bob's albums.

But, in interviews when talking about the Welch period,(especially lately) he's always made cheeky kinds of comments about how that music wasn't up to what he was doing. And of course, yes he hated doing Hypmotized, and Green Man, etc. Also, read the law suit and see what he has to say about Welch period.