Christine and Stevie singing All Over Again on the 2018-2019 tour.

[Wdm6789]

So I didn’t go see them on this tour because I was boycotting the Lindsey firing and I saw them four times in 2014-2015 when it was the classic five lineup. Anyway, I just saw a video on YouTube of Christine and Stevie singing a duet of All Over Again. It was pretty awesome if you think about it. Have Christine and Stevie ever done a duet like that before in their long history? It’s definitely something noteworthy in Fleetwood Mac’s history.

[jbrownsjr]

So I didn’t go see them on this tour because I was boycotting the Lindsey firing and I saw them four times in 2014-2015 when it was the classic five lineup. Anyway, I just saw a video on YouTube of Christine and Stevie singing a duet of All Over Again. It was pretty awesome if you think about it. Have Christine and Stevie ever done a duet like that before in their long history? It’s definitely something noteworthy in Fleetwood Mac’s history.

I loved it. It was nice to see them acknowledge their long tenure together.

Also: I got flamed for suggesting that Stevie make a guest appearance if Christine had a "McVie and Friends" sort of one off. The Lindsey cartel hated me, and all those awful ledgies that always flame Stevie jumped on me. Homer was the only one that didn't bite, (by the way). :laugh::wavey:

[HomerMcvie]

I loved it. It was nice to see them acknowledge their long tenure together.

Also: I got flamed for suggesting that Stevie make a guest appearance if Christine had a "McVie and Friends" sort of one off. The Lindsey cartel hated me, and all those awful ledgies that always flame Stevie jumped on me. Homer was the only one that didn't bite, (by the way). :laugh::wavey:

I must've been drinking, or I would have bitten.:mad::xoxo::mad:

$tevie's CROWD would ruin $tevie showing up for Christine's moment. It's a bad idea.

[Macfan4life]

I must've been drinking, or I would have bitten.:mad::xoxo::mad:

$tevie's CROWD would ruin $tevie showing up for Christine's moment. It's a bad idea.
That's exactly what I said so in your drunken stupor you must have read my post :eek:

[HomerMcvie]

That's exactly what I said so in your drunken stupor you must have read my post :eek:

RUDE.:mad:




Not surprised.:lol:

[Macfan4life]

RUDE.:mad:




Not surprised.:lol:
Rude?
You are the one that said you were drinking.

[HomerMcvie]

Rude?
You are the one that said you were drinking.

I'm a perfect gentleman while imbibing.

[Macfan4life]

I'm a perfect gentleman while imbibing.
But how do you not spill your drink when you are twirling in your Stand Back cape?

[jbrownsjr]

I must've been drinking, or I would have bitten.:mad::xoxo::mad:

$tevie's CROWD would ruin $tevie showing up for Christine's moment. It's a bad idea.

You weren't drunk, you were chuckling that I was messing with Macfan. Then Elle bit too!! hahahahaha

[UnwindedDreams]

So I didn’t go see them on this tour because I was boycotting the Lindsey firing and I saw them four times in 2014-2015 when it was the classic five lineup. Anyway, I just saw a video on YouTube of Christine and Stevie singing a duet of All Over Again. It was pretty awesome if you think about it. Have Christine and Stevie ever done a duet like that before in their long history? It’s definitely something noteworthy in Fleetwood Mac’s history.
Stevie and Chris faced each other to sing the chorus in You Make Loving Fun in 2014 and the final verse of "Everywhere" in 2014, which was sweet.

I didn't care for All Over Again. The song just drags on. And I thought it was tacky that Stevie had the lyrics on the screen during the performance as if 15,000 people were going to sing along. What would've been appropriate was closing with Crystal so Stevie could sing lead on a song she wrote, or even duet it with Chris.
Even Second Time if it had to be a ballad. Playing a song from Time but not BTM just wasn't fair.

[bwboy]

Stevie and Chris faced each other to sing the chorus in You Make Loving Fun in 2014 and the final verse of "Everywhere" in 2014, which was sweet.

I didn't care for All Over Again. The song just drags on. And I thought it was tacky that Stevie had the lyrics on the screen during the performance as if 15,000 people were going to sing along. What would've been appropriate was closing with Crystal so Stevie could sing lead on a song she wrote, or even duet it with Chris.
Even Second Time if it had to be a ballad. Playing a song from Time but not BTM just wasn't fair.

While the song didn’t impress me much, I thought it was super cool to see them sing a full duet. I really wish they had sang As Long As You Follow; not only is it one of my favorite songs, but also they’ve never performed it live and it seemed an appropriate song choice for the finale. Plus it’s a song they both recorded.

Since I wasn’t familiar with All Over Again, I was actually really glad they put the lyrics on the screen- I didn’t think it was done so we could sing along, I though it was so we would know what they were saying. I also thought it was pretty powerful they chose a song from their least known album to close the set. Pretty nervy, in fact. We were all expecting Songbird and instead we got a duet with Christine and Stevie.

[UnwindedDreams]

While the song didn’t impress me much, I thought it was super cool to see them sing a full duet. I really wish they had sang As Long As You Follow; not only is it one of my favorite songs, but also they’ve never performed it live and it seemed an appropriate song choice for the finale. Plus it’s a song they both recorded.

Since I wasn’t familiar with All Over Again, I was actually really glad they put the lyrics on the screen- I didn’t think it was done so we could sing along, I though it was so we would know what they were saying. I also thought it was pretty powerful they chose a song from their least known album to close the set. Pretty nervy, in fact. We were all expecting Songbird and instead we got a duet with Christine and Stevie.

What was the message of All Over Again? In spite of the heartaches, they'd fire Lindsey all over again?
All Over Again got dropped in March of 2019. Not sure why.

I wasn't expecting Songbird because I knew they stopped playing it in 2015 because Christine was experiencing pain in her hands or fingers while playing it.

I don't think it was a nervy choice. They closed the show with Goodbye Baby in 2003/2004 and Say Goodbye in 2013 and those are not well known songs.

I do think As Long as You Follow would've been a great closer. I get not playing a song from Say You Will, even with 2 songs from SYW on the 50 Year compilation, but leaving out Behind the Mask I think was wrong. They should've done 3 BTM songs instead of the 3 Lindsey songs.

[SteveMacD]

So I didn’t go see them on this tour because I was boycotting the Lindsey firing and I saw them four times in 2014-2015 when it was the classic five lineup. Anyway, I just saw a video on YouTube of Christine and Stevie singing a duet of All Over Again. It was pretty awesome if you think about it. Have Christine and Stevie ever done a duet like that before in their long history? It’s definitely something noteworthy in Fleetwood Mac’s history.

And a "Time" song to boot. It was a pretty sweet moment.

[rhiannondontgo]

This was my favorite part of those shows. It was nice seeing just the girls duet, and interesting to see them pull out such a forgotten deep cut. And I loved the one night when Christine inexplicably started playing with Stevie’s stupid microphone ribbons during that song and just kind of held them up awkwardly for the rest of it. Little details like that make me laugh.

[Neal]

This was possibly my favorite moment from this tour; the song's good (all of Chris's Time tunes are) but I mostly loved that it wasn't something we'd seen 547 times before.

Side note - As much as I love "Isn't It Midnight", I think "Save Me" would have been a more appropriate choice for this tours setlist.

[SteveMacD]

What was the message of All Over Again?
I think there was an undercurrent that it was going to be the last major tour, and it was their way of saying that in spite of how crazy Fleetwood Mac is, they'd still do it.

I don't think it was a nervy choice. They closed the show with Goodbye Baby in 2003/2004 and Say Goodbye in 2013 and those are not well known songs.
Completely disagree. Time sold 150,000 copies, SYW sold 1.6 million. Furthermore "Goodbye Baby" was off the album they were actively promoting in 2003-04 and "Say Goodbye" was the token song from SYW, which would have been the only studio album from the Lindsey-Stevie years not represented in the setlist.

They should've done 3 BTM songs instead of the 3 Lindsey songs.
"Go Your Own Way" is etched in stone, with or without Lindsey.

The only BTM song I think they should have done was "Freedom." Mike Campbell should have gotten to play the one Fleetwood Mac song he co-wrote.

[bwboy]

This was possibly my favorite moment from this tour; the song's good (all of Chris's Time tunes are) but I mostly loved that it wasn't something we'd seen 547 times before.

Side note - As much as I love "Isn't It Midnight", I think "Save Me" would have been a more appropriate choice for this tours setlist.

If they would have played Save Me, I think I would have passed out right there on the floor. I love Isn’t It Midnight, too, but Save Me is underrated and would have really sounded good with this incarnation. But as Steve pointed out, Freedom was a most obvious choice for the band to perform, since Mike Campbell co-wrote it, and they didn’t play it. It really seemed like FM deliberately made it a point to ignore Behind the Mask, which made it even odder they chose All Over Again instead.

[UnwindedDreams]

Completely disagree. Time sold 150,000 copies, SYW sold 1.6 million. Furthermore "Goodbye Baby" was off the album they were actively promoting in 2003-04 and "Say Goodbye" was the token song from SYW, which would have been the only studio album from the Lindsey-Stevie years not represented in the setlist.

The only BTM song I think they should have done was "Freedom." Mike Campbell should have gotten to play the one Fleetwood Mac song he co-wrote.
They didn't do any songs from SYW on Unleashed: Hits Tour which leads me to believe they know there aren't well known songs on SYW.

I believe BTM was ignored because Rick and Billy weren't offered the jobs in 2018. Freedom would've been awesome. In the Back of My Mind as the opener would've been perfect.

[SteveMacD]

They didn't do any songs from SYW on Unleashed: Hits Tour which leads me to believe they know there aren't well known songs on SYW.
We were talking about the bold choice of encoring with "All Over Again," you brought up them using "Goodbye Baby" in 2003-04 and "Say Goodbye" in 2013.

Now, you're throwing in 2009, which has nothing to do with what we've been discussing.

Why?

The numbers on this don't lie: SYW sold about ten times as many copies and wasn't nearly as widely panned as Time. That's just a fact.

[UnwindedDreams]

We were talking about the bold choice of encoring with "All Over Again," you brought up them using "Goodbye Baby" in 2003-04 and "Say Goodbye" in 2013.

Now, you're throwing in 2009, which has nothing to do with what we've been discussing.

Why?

The numbers on this don't lie: SYW sold about ten times as many copies and wasn't nearly as widely panned as Time. That's just a fact.
Why do you have a disrespectful tone?

[UnwindedDreams]

We were talking about the bold choice of encoring with "All Over Again," you brought up them using "Goodbye Baby" in 2003-04 and "Say Goodbye" in 2013.

Now, you're throwing in 2009, which has nothing to do with what we've been discussing.

Why?

The numbers on this don't lie: SYW sold about ten times as many copies and wasn't nearly as widely panned as Time. That's just a fact.
You brought up that Say Goodbye had to be the token song for the SYW album during Live 2013. I brought up Unleashed because there was no token song from SYW played. I believe that to be because there aren't any well known songs on SYW other than Peacekeeper and the title track, which I hear regularly in the supermarket.

Again. I believe closing Live 2013 with Say Goodbye was a bold choice. They could've closed it with Silver Springs but they didnt. I went to 5 shows in 2013 and no one around me knew Say Goodbye.

[bwboy]

You brought up that Say Goodbye had to be the token song for the SYW album during Live 2013. I brought up Unleashed because there was no token song from SYW played. I believe that to be because there aren't any well known songs on SYW other than Peacekeeper and the title track, which I hear regularly in the supermarket.

Again. I believe closing Live 2013 with Say Goodbye was a bold choice. They could've closed it with Silver Springs but they didnt. I went to 5 shows in 2013 and no one around me knew Say Goodbye.

I agree that Say Goodbye was a bold choice of a closer in 2013, definitely. But the song had been performed live before, and by the same lineup that recorded it, and it was from an album that was fairly recent. All Over Again was performed live by a different lineup than the one that recorded it, and was from an album that was almost 20 years old at that point, not to mention the album was their poorest selling album. Those factors are why I think All Over Again was a more brazen choice for a closer. Really, for FM to not end with Songbird was a surprise, because they’re such a creature of habit. I was thrilled they shook up their setlist so much for the last tour, and it sounds like you were, also.

[UnwindedDreams]

I agree that Say Goodbye was a bold choice of a closer in 2013, definitely. But the song had been performed live before, and by the same lineup that recorded it, and it was from an album that was fairly recent. All Over Again was performed live by a different lineup than the one that recorded it, and was from an album that was almost 20 years old at that point, not to mention the album was their poorest selling album. Those factors are why I think All Over Again was a more brazen choice for a closer. Really, for FM to not end with Songbird was a surprise, because they’re such a creature of habit. I was thrilled they shook up their setlist so much for the last tour, and it sounds like you were, also.
I would've like to have heard Songbird instead of World Turning or Tell Me All The Things. But it was nice to hear All Over Again even though I don't care for the song.
I'm a Classic Five, but more so a Stevie, fan so the 2018 setlist wasn't for me since she sang her usual (Dreams, Rhiannon, Gold Dust, Landslide) and Storms
which I heard ten times on Unleashed. I thought she was going to do Angel because she did Beautiful Child and Sara in 04, Storms in 09, and Sisters in 2013. And I hoped for Love is Dangerous, Freedom, or Affairs of the Heart given Stevie did a late 80s song on the 2014 reunion tour. So when Stevie sang Black Magic Woman, I Got You, and Free Fallin, and when I heard Hypnotized, Don't Dream It's Over, and Tell Me rather than Chris, Billy, or Lindsey songs I felt like I wasn't getting what I paid for.

[David]

I thought she was going to do Angel because she did Beautiful Child and Sara in 04, Storms in 09, and Sisters in 2013.

“Angel” is truly a weird case. Why didn’t she pull it out of mothballs during these years? We haven’t heard it since the first few shows of 1983. It may be the only song she once did live a lot — one Fleetwood tour and one solo tour — that has been entirely ignored since then. I used to think it may have been because the song’s texture was so reliant on a particular instrument with a character-driven sound that is no longer available.

[jbrownsjr]

“Angel” is truly a weird case. Why didn’t she pull it out of mothballs during these years? We haven’t heard it since the first few shows of 1983. It may be the only song she once did live a lot — one Fleetwood tour and one solo tour — that has been entirely ignored since then. I used to think it may have been because the song’s texture was so reliant on a particular instrument with a character-driven sound that is no longer available.

Wow, I thought the same thing. Because Mick, John and Christine have such a weird way of attacking songs in general. They actually nail it. I have to go back and listen to the 1983 versions.

[On Ice]

I agree David on Angel, it is a terrific song and transferred well to the live setting. Stevie obviously really enjoyed doing it back in the day with her dancing and all, but mostly the vocals were great. Solo, it lost a slight bit of its impact but really should have made it to a set list with all of these new millennium tours. It's also a personal fav and I was gobsmacked not that long ago to hear it playing in my local liquor store.

[Macfan4life]

I agree David on Angel, it is a terrific song and transferred well to the live setting. Stevie obviously really enjoyed doing it back in the day with her dancing and all, but mostly the vocals were great. Solo, it lost a slight bit of its impact but really should have made it to a set list with all of these new millennium tours. It's also a personal fav and I was gobsmacked not that long ago to hear it playing in my local liquor store.
IMHO Angel is one Mac song that I thought Stevie's band played better than the Mac. Waddy had a great riff and Roy on piano gave it a sparkle. I also believe her solo version is a bit faster tempo. She performed it early in the Wild Heart leg in addition to her short Bella Donna tour.

[UnwindedDreams]

IMHO Angel is one Mac song that I thought Stevie's band played better than the Mac. Waddy had a great riff and Roy on piano gave it a sparkle. I also believe her solo version is a bit faster tempo. She performed it early in the Wild Heart leg in addition to her short Bella Donna tour.
Her solo version is like a different song- I like it but Waddy starts the song and drives it from my recollection. I'm not a Bittan fan in the arena of Springsteen sound because I think it kind of softened Bruce's songs, but his contributions to Stevie's songs are perfect!

But Angel with Chris leading the tune is The Top for me!

[jbrownsjr]

Her solo version is like a different song- I like it but Waddy starts the song and drives it from my recollection. I'm not a Bittan fan in the arena of Springsteen sound because I think it kind of softened Bruce's songs, but his contributions to Stevie's songs are perfect!

But Angel with Chris leading the tune is The Top for me!

I agree. That quirky thing she does on keys, leads me to love the live version as much as the studio.