Poison's producer talks (Stevie Nicks mention)

[Macfan4life]

Interesting interview. Poison's producer calls the band incompetent and not musically talented. They got access to a studio to record their first album because a "coked out" Stevie Nicks had the studio rented but she never ever showed up. So the studio members allowed the band to show up but they never let the owners of the studio know. They had no money to rent a studio and their first album cost just over $20,000 to record. He says "if that fat bitch ever showed up they would have to leave." No wonder Brett Michael seemed to be loyal to Stevie. The story I remember hearing was their tours crossed paths in 1986 and they had a brief encounter with her at an airport. But her absence from the recording studio led to their career and stardom. I would be loyal to her too. Interesting that the crappy RAL sessions indirectly led to more crappy music by other artists :eek: BTW, I always could tell Poison's drummer was not a good drummer simply by watching their videos :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGVparDSU4U

[rhiannondontgo]

Lol the stories of her messy debauchery from like 84-86ish always crack me up. Like this and the whole Don’t Come Around Here No More saga. And the mid 80s reels/work tapes where everyone around her in the studio just sounds exhausted. It’s like she either never showed up or showed up just to annoy everyone for a brief period of time and then leave.
She was just a menace to society for a solid 3 years :laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

Lol the stories of her messy debauchery from like 84-86ish always crack me up. Like this and the whole Don’t Come Around Here No More saga. And the mid 80s reels/work tapes where everyone around her in the studio just sounds exhausted. It’s like she either never showed up or showed up just to annoy everyone for a brief period of time and then leave.
She was just a menace to society for a solid 3 years :laugh:

Oh now, I think 3 years is being too kind.:lol:

[Macfan4life]

Lol the stories of her messy debauchery from like 84-86ish always crack me up. Like this and the whole Don’t Come Around Here No More saga. And the mid 80s reels/work tapes where everyone around her in the studio just sounds exhausted. It’s like she either never showed up or showed up just to annoy everyone for a brief period of time and then leave.
She was just a menace to society for a solid 3 years :laugh:
And what about her meltdown at the Wham concert in Los Angeles in late summer 1985. That was right before she took off with Bob and Tom for Australia. And before that she joined Heart on tour in Arizona bringing the Wilson sisters to her home. Nancy said they partied hard back then but no one could keep up with Stevie. All of this while she was supposed to be finishing her album and practicing tour rehearsals. She just wanted to party period. She had no interest in making good music. She even was a no show during her Talk To Me video shoot which is why it debuted so late. When the video was released, the song was already in the top 20. If you ever watch E True Hollywood Story of Nell Carter and Gimmie A Break, it will remind you of Stevie and how bad her cocaine addiction was.
However the craziest story I ever heard from this era was from Joe Walsh himself. In 1990 Joe Walsh was on Rockline. Someone called in and asked him to tell the Stevie Nicks Kentucky Fried Chicken incident. Joe said that they were all at a party for a world premiere of a Prince video. Joe was with Stevie in the living room and while they were waiting for the video to come on TV, a Kentucky Friend Chicken commercial came on tv. Joe was specific that it was the one where the cub scouts come marching into the restaurant demanding chicken done right. Stevie thought his commercial was the Prince video. When she was told it was a commercial everyone including Stevie could not stop laughing. I wish this Rockline would be uploaded to Youtube. If anyone has access it was broadcast July 1990. It always made me think, how disconnected from reality could you be to think a Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial was a Prince video. I can only imagine what Wham's security had to deal with :eek:

Edit: If anyone has the power or resources to obtain this interview from Rockline the date is: 7/9/1990 joe walsh / mick taylor rockline

[sue]

On a slightly kinder note……..tubby yes, FAT…..no not quite.

[HomerMcvie]

On a slightly kinder note……..tubby yes, FAT…..no not quite.

It's a fine line, when you're 4 feet tall. :cool:

[David]

This producer sounds like a charmer. I guess he won’t be working with Poison any time soon.

[bombaysaffires]

And what about her meltdown at the Wham concert in Los Angeles in late summer 1985. That was right before she took off with Bob and Tom for Australia. And before that she joined Heart on tour in Arizona bringing the Wilson sisters to her home. Nancy said they partied hard back then but no one could keep up with Stevie. All of this while she was supposed to be finishing her album and practicing tour rehearsals. She just wanted to party period. She had no interest in making good music. She even was a no show during her Talk To Me video shoot which is why it debuted so late. When the video was released, the song was already in the top 20. If you ever watch E True Hollywood Story of Nell Carter and Gimmie A Break, it will remind you of Stevie and how bad her cocaine addiction was.
However the craziest story I ever heard from this era was from Joe Walsh himself. In 1990 Joe Walsh was on Rockline. Someone called in and asked him to tell the Stevie Nicks Kentucky Fried Chicken incident. Joe said that they were all at a party for a world premiere of a Prince video. Joe was with Stevie in the living room and while they were waiting for the video to come on TV, a Kentucky Friend Chicken commercial came on tv. Joe was specific that it was the one where the cub scouts come marching into the restaurant demanding chicken done right. Stevie thought his commercial was the Prince video. When she was told it was a commercial everyone including Stevie could not stop laughing. I wish this Rockline would be uploaded to Youtube. If anyone has access it was broadcast July 1990. It always made me think, how disconnected from reality could you be to think a Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial was a Prince video. I can only imagine what Wham's security had to deal with :eek:

Edit: If anyone has the power or resources to obtain this interview from Rockline the date is: 7/9/1990 joe walsh / mick taylor rockline


I've heard the Heart story and the Prince video story, but the Wham meltdown is news to me. Deets?

[Macfan4life]

I've heard the Heart story and the Prince video story, but the Wham meltdown is news to me. Deets?
I wish he would go into more details rather than just "furious and very emotional". He even stated that he could not calm her down even though she was finally admitted backstage. We are left reading between the lines and apparently he did not want to embarrass her. But he states all his efforts in trying to calm her down and admit her backstage did not work. OMG really makes your mind wonder. Here is a snippet from the book.

https://www.smoothradio.com/artists/george-michael/wham-stevie-nicks-concert/

[aleuzzi]

The producer is a douchebag, if even that.

[aleuzzi]

I've heard the Heart story and the Prince video story, but the Wham meltdown is news to me. Deets?

Digest: she showed up backstage at a Wham concert in 1985 or 86, when they were at the height of her fame. Security refuses her entrance and she has a grade-A meltdown. When Rigley and Michael got wind of her being there, they insisted she’d be let in, but it was too late: she was already distraught, humiliated, and wanted to go home.

There’s a picture of her at this very moment floating around. It’s jarring.

[HomerMcvie]

Digest: she showed up backstage at a Wham concert in 1985 or 86, when they were at the height of her fame. Security refuses her entrance and she has a grade-A meltdown. When Rigley and Michael got wind of her being there, they insisted she’d be let in, but it was too late: she was already distraught, humiliated, and wanted to go home.

There’s a picture of her at this very moment floating around. It’s jarring.

This one? It's the only one I could find.

[Macfan4life]

This one? It's the only one I could find.
No that cant be it. She has 1987 hair in that photo and she is wearing the Big Love dress. Wham played LA, CA in Feb 1985 and August 1985 which was the peak of the RAL recordings. I must say I am fascinated at her idiocy at the simplest things yet at the same time knowing current pop culture. Who would have guessed the woman who thought a KFC commercial was a Prince video knew who Wham was and wanted to see them in concert. I love that 1985 MTV interview where she mentions Cyndi Lauper going over the audience in a garbage can with orange hair. It shows how much MTV she watched. Also there is a funny Wild Heart video that after GDW is performed she exclaims to the audience "They'rrrrrrrrre Herrrrrrrreeee" which was a very common Poltergeist reference back then. She was a completely sheltered drug addict woman but damn she knew her pop culture :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

No that cant be it. She has 1987 hair in that photo and she is wearing the Big Love dress. Wham played LA, CA in Feb 1985 and August 1985 which was the peak of the RAL recordings. I must say I am fascinated at her idiocy at the simplest things yet at the same time knowing current pop culture. Who would have guessed the woman who thought a KFC commercial was a Prince video knew who Wham was and wanted to see them in concert. I love that 1985 MTV interview where she mentions Cyndi Lauper going over the audience in a garbage can with orange hair. It shows how much MTV she watched. Also there is a funny Wild Heart video that after GDW is performed she exclaims to the audience "They'rrrrrrrrre Herrrrrrrreeee" which was a very common Poltergeist reference back then. She was a completely sheltered drug addict woman but damn she knew her pop culture :lol:

I googled Stevie Nicks Wham concert refused, and it brought up that pic. It even said she was refused from a Wham show, beneath it.

[Macfan4life]

I googled Stevie Nicks Wham concert refused, and it brought up that pic. It even said she was refused from a Wham show, beneath it.
Did you see the link I posted earlier in this thread. It was an article that also had that photo. I doubt that photo is from 1985. That photo looks like 1987 Big Love hair and dress. Each year in the mid 80s was like dog years for Stevie. I bet there are no photos of the incident and someone just posted an 80s photo of her being escorted somewhere. But who knows. That hair style is post Betty Ford.

[aleuzzi]

This one? It's the only one I could find.

Actually, that IS the one.

[Macfan4life]

I seriously doubt that photo is from 1985. Stevie looked nothing like that in 1985. The article about the book found a random photo of her implying such but Stevie is old and klonopined in that photo. Its not even close. Magazines post all sort of photos of celebrities from all eras about their life. Red Rocks reshoot and Big Love hair came after Betty Ford.
Seriously half of all online magazines do the same thing. I could post all day similar news clips of photos that are not related to the issue reported on. I see it fooling the average fan but not the diehards on this board.

There are several clues from the photo that reveal its post 1985. Look at her dress. What is she promoting? Its the Big Love Dress that she wore in the 1987 video. 1986 was a hard year for year with a big tour party and she put on weight. Her face in 1985 was still thin. This interview is timestamped Aug 1985 which is when the Wham concert was. Look how thin her face was. She was not heavy and bloated and she was still doing those perms. The photo in the article is clearly post RAL tour. She is boated, she is wearing her new Big Love dress, and she looks so much older than this summer 1985 interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSfQqHSgQ0Y

[HomerMcvie]

Actually, that IS the one.
Now now, Macfan claims to know everything, and isn't going to have his Chiffon ripped off without a fight!

Let's just take a moment to calm down, admit that we're wrong, and Macfan is right.... ABOUT EVERYTHING!:mad::mad::mad:






:p

[Macfan4life]

Now now, Macfan claims to know everything, and isn't going to have his Chiffon ripped off without a fight!

Let's just take a moment to calm down, admit that we're wrong, and Macfan is right.... ABOUT EVERYTHING!:mad::mad::mad:






:p
No fight just a klonopin stare down. I am wrapped in chiffon and ready to go!

Its hard to be right on this board but someone has to do it :eek:

Come on now even the lamest chiffon head can see the truth.

[HomerMcvie]

No fight just a klonopin stare down. I am wrapped in chiffon and ready to go!

Its hard to be right on this board but someone has to do it :eek:

Come on now even the lamest chiffon head can see the truth.

Put on those Frankenbocks and let's rumble!!!

Unlike reverse cowgirl, I believe that position has already been filled.

I AM a lame Chiffonhead! I used to be a really good one. Up until that Other Side Of The Mirror TURD. Then $he lost me...

Team BuckVie all the way these days.

[aleuzzi]

Now now, Macfan claims to know everything, and isn't going to have his Chiffon ripped off without a fight!

Let's just take a moment to calm down, admit that we're wrong, and Macfan is right.... ABOUT EVERYTHING!:mad::mad::mad:






:p

I had no idea I was entering a mine field. I just recall this pic is the one that accompanied the article about it that, in fact, we ledgies discussed at the time—however many moons ago that was.

But as to my acknowledging that I am wrong, well—unlike Lindsey I know I’m not “I Know I’m Not Wrong.”

[bombaysaffires]

This one? It's the only one I could find.

the infamous white limo and her mink coat.:eek:

[HomerMcvie]

I had no idea I was entering a mine field. I just recall this pic is the one that accompanied the article about it that, in fact, we ledgies discussed at the time—however many moons ago that was.

But as to my acknowledging that I am wrong, well—unlike Lindsey I know I’m not “I Know I’m Not Wrong.”

Giving each other crap is our thing....:xoxo:

[aleuzzi]

Giving each other crap is our thing....:xoxo:

I feel you—like a tear in some clown’s eye.

[HomerMcvie]

I feel you—like a tear in some clown’s eye.

Melodies awaken, sorrows from their sleep.

[David]

No fight just a klonopin stare down. I am wrapped in chiffon and ready to go!

Its hard to be right on this board but someone has to do it :eek:

Come on now even the lamest chiffon head can see the truth. No, no, you’re right. But glory never lasts forever!

That photo they stuck with the story is definitely one of Stevie with her Jose Eber hairstyle in late 1986 or 1987. Something about Eber, the stylist to the stars, was offputting. At Stevie’s Forum gig in July 1986, she and Claire Rothman set aside a chair smack down in front for Eber, who arrived late and left after “Beauty and the Beast.” I like to think he got sick of listening to Stevie bellow and preferred to have his hands in her hair.

There’s a couple of photos of Stevie with the Heartbreakers at Compton Terrace on July 30, 1985, along with the audio, to give y’all an idea of what she was up to visually at that time. I saw her in mid-September that year at Universal but have no pics of that night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz1sT8D88G0

[Macfan4life]

No, no, you’re right. But glory never lasts forever!

That photo they stuck with the story is definitely one of Stevie with her Jose Eber hairstyle in late 1986 or 1987. Something about Eber, the stylist to the stars, was offputting. At Stevie’s Forum gig in July 1986, she and Claire Rothman set aside a chair smack down in front for Eber, who arrived late and left after “Beauty and the Beast.” I like to think he got sick of listening to Stevie bellow and preferred to have his hands in her hair.

There’s a couple of photos of Stevie with the Heartbreakers at Compton Terrace on July 30, 1985, along with the audio, to give y’all an idea of what she was up to visually at that time. I saw her in mid-September that year at Universal but have no pics of that night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz1sT8D88G0
I could not agree with you more. I know nothing about hair or styling and good grief I was teenager in love with Stevie in the mid 80s. However even back then I hated that look on her. This is how you can date the photo. It was first seen at the Red Rocks re-shoots after she got out of rehab. She wore this look in the Big Love video and there is that youtube video of her with the famous stylist of the 80s where she is sporting this look again. Its 1987 mostly. Its puffy on top and like straight bangs on the side. I never liked it even today. I never liked Lindsey's hair in 1984, Chris's hair in Got A Hold On Me and Stevie Red Rocks/Tango Big Love video.
She lost that look thankfully for Seven Wonders. It was a brief look but I agree with you it was a horrible look on her. And correct, that is the timestamp on the photo.

[rhiannondontgo]

That photo they stuck with the story is definitely one of Stevie with her Jose Eber hairstyle in late 1986 or 1987.

Yep. It’s from February 28, 1987 specifically. She was at Elizabeth Taylor’s 55th birthday party, they had met at Betty Ford Clinic. There’s other pics from that night too if you google it.

[Nathan]

Is this the KFC commercial she thought was a Prince video?

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[Macfan4life]

Is this the KFC commercial she thought was a Prince video?

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I think that's it. If you ever find Joe Walsh on Rockline in July 1990 a caller asks him about the Kentucky Fried Chicken incident. Joe went on to explain that him and Stevie were at a Prince world premier video party and a KFC commercial came on with cub scouts marching into the restaurant demanding chicken. Stevie thought it was the video and everyone including her could not stop laughing. I never found a cub scout version but this sports team is marching into the restaurant and it was released in 1984 so I would speculate that is it.