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tango87
03-26-2022, 12:01 PM
There's a nice new BBC interview with Christine out now, where she talks to Gary Barlow (from UK boy band Take That) about songwriting.

She talks rather cagily about Fleetwood Mac's future - suggests that there might be more to come - but also says she has a new 'compilation' album coming out this summer, called, somewhat inevitably, 'Songbird', and produced by Glyn Johns. It sounds like it will be her old songs set to an orchestral backing, so I don't imagine she's re-recorded her vocals, but who knows?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0015lzs

'Fleetwood Mac's Christine McVie goes down a winding memory lane with Gary Barlow as she reveals the magic behind some of the best songs ever written.
Discover how her journey took her from Birmingham to Los Angeles and how the revolutions of the band affected her marriage to John McVie and her sense of self. She co-created one of the most epic albums of all time 'Rumours' - but discover if there was a price to pay for all that musical genius. Christine grew up on the piano, playing jazz at an early age which lay the foundations for her songwriting in the future. She created classics like ‘Don’t Stop’, ‘Songbird’ and ‘Little Lies’ - enjoy a songwriting masterclass from one of the most majestic women in the music business.'

Macfan4life
03-26-2022, 12:40 PM
Thank you for posting this. You made my day. I will take any new Christine stuff no matter what it is. I have to laugh how she called her first album "The legendary Christine McVie" It was "The Legendary Christine Perfect"
Good interviewer but I wish he would have asked about the Bob Welch era. He brings up Future Games and coming to the USA and she says Fleetwood Mac could not get work in England. HELLO!! They now had an American in the band. Bob brought the band to the USA. I think that gets over looked. If the Mac had not hired Bob, they may have stayed in England. I like he asks her about her solo album. She sometimes forgets to mention it and pretends it did not happen. I feel bad for her because her voice is changing :(

bombaysaffires
03-26-2022, 12:54 PM
There's a nice new BBC interview with Christine out now, where she talks to Gary Barlow (from UK boy band Take That) about songwriting.

She talks rather cagily about Fleetwood Mac's future - suggests that there might be more to come - but also says she has a new 'compilation' album coming out this summer, called, somewhat inevitably, 'Songbird', and produced by Glyn Johns. It sounds like it will be her old songs set to an orchestral backing, so I don't imagine she's re-recorded her vocals, but who knows?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0015lzs

'Fleetwood Mac's Christine McVie goes down a winding memory lane with Gary Barlow as she reveals the magic behind some of the best songs ever written.
Discover how her journey took her from Birmingham to Los Angeles and how the revolutions of the band affected her marriage to John McVie and her sense of self. She co-created one of the most epic albums of all time 'Rumours' - but discover if there was a price to pay for all that musical genius. Christine grew up on the piano, playing jazz at an early age which lay the foundations for her songwriting in the future. She created classics like ‘Don’t Stop’, ‘Songbird’ and ‘Little Lies’ - enjoy a songwriting masterclass from one of the most majestic women in the music business.'

Glyn Johns who clashed so badly with Stevie....

I thought she grew up playing classical music, not so much jazz...?

This sounds like it could be a good album or a 'what were they thinking?' one.

Odd to be coming out with a compilation project now. Further establishing the legacy or another attempt to make some money now that it seems FM likely won't be doing anything new in the studio or on the road ?

Macfan4life
03-26-2022, 01:07 PM
Glyn Johns who clashed so badly with Stevie....

I thought she grew up playing classical music, not so much jazz...?

This sounds like it could be a good album or a 'what were they thinking?' one.

Odd to be coming out with a compilation project now. Further establishing the legacy or another attempt to make some money now that it seems FM likely won't be doing anything new in the studio or on the road ?
I think she was talking about her brother who was the jazz player so she was around jazz. Yes, LOL Gly Johns who is revered in the industry but only Stevie does not like because of her songs. He got the blame for Street Angel.

I don't care what the album is, I look forward to it. Everyone else has done something like this so why not her just once. Stevie has so many "best of" CDs and stuff they all blur together.

sue
03-26-2022, 01:42 PM
Nice to hear her no nonsense slight Brummie voice.
She sounded really good and happy.
I enjoyed the programme even Gary Barlow.

SteveMacD
03-26-2022, 03:22 PM
The way she answered about a possible tour for “Songbird” leads me to think there will be one.

dougl
03-26-2022, 03:31 PM
Thanks so much for this post. Lovely to catch up with Christine on this rainy Saturday afternoon. Looking forward to Songbird!

bombaysaffires
03-26-2022, 03:37 PM
Finally got it to play. Thanks for sharing!

Interesting when she talked about coming back to the band and touring and says "Those last years were great" :eek:

Then when he asks about touring again she says, as someone noted above, that she's learned to be a bit "cagey" about talking about stuff like that and it made me think about how she got spanked for speaking out about whether FM will ever tour again (when she said she couldn't see John going out again and that she was getting too old for it as well) and then had to walk back her comments. So now she's not willing to commit to any sort of comment that could blowback on her. Thanks, Mick and Stevie. :distress:

She did sort of push back a little when he said something about the BuckVie album and that era and whether it was like a final victory lap and she said something about maybe the final victory lap was still yet to come....

jbrownsjr
03-26-2022, 04:07 PM
Wow! Thanks for posting. She sounds happy and wonderful. It shows if she's working on something with Vincent Mendoza. He did Joni Michell's Both Sides Now back in 1999 ish. It's brilliant.

I hope she does some new music or that blues album too. Great to hear her voice again. :]

elle
03-26-2022, 05:04 PM
The way she answered about a possible tour for “Songbird” leads me to think there will be one.

yep. sounded very clearly like her solo tour is in the works but not all set yet so she cannot say anything.

and lol SN and her cult will hate it that Christine yet again spelled out that Mick / FM wanted only Lindsey but LB insisted SN comes along. SN minions been trying extra hard to sweep that under the rug for the last few years.

UnwindedDreams
03-26-2022, 05:11 PM
Rod Stewart did an album recently where he rerecorded his classics with an orchestra.
I hope she did new vocals.

What did she mean by last years?

bwboy
03-26-2022, 05:43 PM
This is exciting news. I never ever thought Christine would do a solo tour, but it sounds like it just might be a possibility. Unbelievable! I would go to that show in a heartbeat, but I suspect it would be select cities. I love the idea of a smaller venue, too.

I can’t wait to see what will be on the new compilation.

Murrow
03-26-2022, 06:41 PM
The announcement verbatim:

“I’ve just finished an album which is a compilation of my biggest hits. But they’ve all been produced again by Glyn Johns [with] Vince Mendoza on strings who does this fantastic version of Songbird. So that’s going to be released but they all sound completely different. That’s out in June this year and it’s just called Songbird… obviously.”

I hope it has some deep cuts and maybe one or two new songs including the one she wrote with Neil Finn.

BLY
03-26-2022, 07:23 PM
I’m very excited about this new release. I do hope she includes some new stuff. I’m not sure how she can pull off a live show at this point unfortunately.

HomerMcvie
03-26-2022, 07:38 PM
I’m very excited about this new release. I do hope she includes some new stuff. I’m not sure how she can pull off a live show at this point unfortunately.

I love the interview. I agree that I don't think she can pull off doing shows at this point.

I wish he'd asked her why she fake plays keys now.

SteveMacD
03-26-2022, 08:12 PM
I wish he'd asked her why she fake plays keys now.

She wasn’t on the 2018-19 tour, at least on Black Magic Woman and Tell Me All The Things You Do.

DownOnRodeo
03-26-2022, 10:08 PM
I like the sounds of this orchestral compilation. Bringing Christine full-circle to her classical roots. With all the musical talent in her family, she could have just recorded it at home. I do shiver to think about new vocals though, but as jbrownsjr says the Both Sides Now album worked really well, husky vocals and all.

HomerMcvie
03-26-2022, 11:03 PM
She wasn’t on the 2018-19 tour, at least on Black Magic Woman and Tell Me All The Things You Do.

That's the first tour I've missed since I was 15. I didn't care.

On BuckVie, she (nor Brett) was playing Hold Me. It was tracks. It's a smidge more difficult in the lowered key(B from the original D), but still... Either arthritis, remembering to play it in the weird key, or laziness. Two keyboard players, and neither one of them can be bothered to play it?
Actually, it would look weird for Brett to play it...

DownOnRodeo
03-26-2022, 11:49 PM
On BuckVie, she (nor Brett) was playing Hold Me. It was tracks. It's a smidge more difficult in the lowered key(B from the original D), but still... Either arthritis, remembering to play it in the weird key, or laziness. Two keyboard players, and neither one of them can be bothered to play it?

I can't think of a Christine song in B (although I'm not on top of the early stuff). Her Best Of should be called "Songs in the Key of F."

I'd like to pretend that the compilation will actually be titled "Songbird, Obviously." Sassy and straightforward.

Funny moment when she temporarily couldn't remember which FM album came after Rumours. Good to hear her commend Tusk for having great tracks on it, as well as acknowledging that people dig the Christine Perfect album.

HomerMcvie
03-27-2022, 12:03 AM
I can't think of a Christine song in B (although I'm not on top of the early stuff). Her Best Of should be called "Songs in the Key of F."

I'd like to pretend that the compilation will actually be titled "Songbird, Obviously." Sassy and straightforward.

Funny moment when she temporarily couldn't remember which FM album came after Rumours. Good to hear her commend Tusk for having great tracks on it, as well as acknowledging that people dig the Christine Perfect album.

I Don't Want To Know is the ONLY FM song I can think of, that's in B.
Edit - The Ledge is, too. I'm sure I'm forgetting something else, before some anal retentive stickler comes correcting me. Brown Eyes is Bm...sigh.

F was always Stevie's key. Dreams, Outside The Rain, Beauty/Beast, Sara, Gypsy.....my god, she was obsessed with F. Not F'ing.:rolleyes: Just plain F.

I think a percentage of the population thinks of Christine when they hear the word Songbird. It's a good title for her project. Especially at this stage in the game.

SteveMacD
03-27-2022, 01:06 AM
That's the first tour I've missed since I was 15. I didn't care.
We know.

On BuckVie, she (nor Brett) was playing Hold Me. It was tracks. It's a smidge more difficult in the lowered key(B from the original D), but still... Either arthritis, remembering to play it in the weird key, or laziness. Two keyboard players, and neither one of them can be bothered to play it?
Actually, it would look weird for Brett to play it...
Brett appeared to be playing it when I saw them.

That said, she was touring with Lindsey "Is it live or is it Memorex (hint: it's Memorex)" Buckingham. Just watch a 2009 clip of Fleetwood Mac doing "Go Insane." Watch any of his One Man Show videos, which are literally karaoke with guitar. Hell, he had a guy playing computer on stage in 2018.

Still not convinced? Watch "Tell Me All The Things You Do" and "Surrender The Rain" from their respective 2018 tours.

It was precisely because of this that I wrote off Fleetwood Mac unless Christine came back after the one Lindsey show I saw in 2006. (After which I asked if Robert Pollard was playing anywhere and started blasting GbV when I got home.)

sue
03-27-2022, 03:08 AM
If she tours the new Album, she won’t have to play or pretend to play.
She can sit in front of a small orchestra …and let them do their work.

I can see her perched on a stool, next to a grand piano, with pianist playing. .. maybe for an easy arrangement she could walk round and play..

SteveMacD
03-27-2022, 03:25 AM
If she tours the new Album, she won’t have to play or pretend to play.
She can sit in front of a small orchestra …and let them do their work.

I can see her perched on a stool, next to a grand piano, with pianist playing. .. maybe for an easy arrangement she could walk round and play..

Black gown, diamond necklace, and all...

/s

sue
03-27-2022, 03:56 AM
Black gown, diamond necklace, and all...

/s

Haha…Leather biker jacket just to remind who she is…

tango87
03-27-2022, 04:35 AM
Thank you for posting this. You made my day. :(

My pleasure, it made my day too! Really cheered me up, particularly to hear about her new record.

I still find it so frustrating to think about Buckingham McVie, and what might have been. I listened to it again after the interview yesterday, and there's so much lovely stuff on there, a real compendium of classic Fleetwood Mac sounds. It really could have been a victory lap, as Gary Barlow says, just one element missing...

Christine seemed to enjoy the interview, I thought. Gary B sounded a bit nervous at the start but she put him at his ease.

Macfan4life
03-27-2022, 05:48 AM
I hate to be the Debbie Downer here but I had a different take on her statement about touring to promote her new CD. There obviously is going to be promotion which could bring a few live shows maybe in London with live strings or something. I dont think she wanted to put her foot down and be a buzz kill and say "absolutely not.....i cant play that much anymore and I am losing my voice." She also learned a lesson from her interview a few years ago when she said Fleetwood Mac was done. She received so much blow back that she learned to be coy with such questions. Lesson learned: Never say never to touring.
Maybe I am just trying to be realistic and grounded. If she really toured solo I would be the happiest person in the world. She does not have a huge following so I dont know how much a tour could make. She had a hit solo album in the peak of Fleetwood Mac and could only get a few hundred people to show up in major US cities. Even Buckingham/McVie could only sell half a small theater. So sadly I dont see the incentive to put a band together and tour.
Having said that, maybe she knows Fleetwood Mac is done and wants a swan song of her career and will do it by herself. But I just dont see it happening :( Prove me wrong Chris!!!!

Dragon
03-27-2022, 08:06 AM
She talks rather cagily about Fleetwood Mac's future - suggests that there might be more to come - but also says she has a new 'compilation' album coming out this summer, called, somewhat inevitably, 'Songbird', and produced by Glyn Johns. It sounds like it will be her old songs set to an orchestral backing, so I don't imagine she's re-recorded her vocals, but who knows?

Christine's upcoming album Songbird would be her works rerecorded with an orchestra. "Songbird" is likely being included on the album, and would be the title track.

What other songs could make the album?

I would like to include
"Don't Stop"
"Everywhere"
"Got a Hold on Me"
"Heroes are Hard to Find"
"Hold Me"
"Isn't It Midnight"
"Little Lies"
"Oh Daddy"
"Over My Head"
"Save Me"
"Say You Love Me"
"You Make Loving Fun"

bwboy
03-27-2022, 08:06 AM
If she tours the new Album, she won’t have to play or pretend to play.
She can sit in front of a small orchestra …and let them do their work.

I can see her perched on a stool, next to a grand piano, with pianist playing. .. maybe for an easy arrangement she could walk round and play..

Very true. I also think Christine can play piano or keyboards, just perhaps not for two full hours. She also seems to feel more comfortable behind the piano live, even though she did come center stage a few times on the last FM tour.

As Macfan4life said, it is hard to imagine a full tour for Christine solo, but select cities might work, especially in light of people having cabin fever after years of Covid, and smaller venues.

Homer, you mentioned her lack of playing could be due to arthritis or laziness. As a much younger man than Christine is now, I feel quite confident it’s not laziness on her part! She probably hadn’t played much before she toured with Lindsey, so maybe it was harder for her to play, but by the FM tour, she seemed to be really playing the keys more, so I’m guessing she was able to manage any pain or discomfort more by then.

bwboy
03-27-2022, 08:12 AM
Christine's upcoming album Songbird would be her works rerecorded with an orchestra. "Songbird" is likely being included on the album, and would be the title track.

What other songs could make the album?

I would like to include
"Don't Stop"
"Everywhere"
"Got a Hold on Me"
"Heroes are Hard to Find"
"Hold Me"
"Isn't It Midnight"
"Little Lies"
"Oh Daddy"
"Over My Head"
"Save Me"
"Say You Love Me"
"You Make Loving Fun"


I like your list, but could do without Hold Me, especially if Lindsey won’t be on it.

I’d love to see Warm Ways, Brown Eyes, Over and Over, and Game of Pretend.

UnwindedDreams
03-27-2022, 08:26 AM
Christine's upcoming album Songbird would be her works rerecorded with an orchestra. "Songbird" is likely being included on the album, and would be the title track.

What other songs could make the album?

I would like to include
"Don't Stop"
"Everywhere"
"Got a Hold on Me"
"Heroes are Hard to Find"
"Hold Me"
"Isn't It Midnight"
"Little Lies"
"Oh Daddy"
"Over My Head"
"Save Me"
"Say You Love Me"
"You Make Loving Fun"

1. Love Will Show Us How
2. Love in Store
3. Think About Me
4. Got a Hold on Me
5. Songbird
6. Little Lies
7. Skies the Limit
8. Feel About You
9. Dissatisfied
10. Everywhere
11. Say You Love Me
12. Friend
13. As Long as You Follow
14. Sugar Daddy
15. You Make Loving Fun
16. Why
17. Hold Me
18. Don't Stop

Dragon
03-27-2022, 08:53 AM
I like your list, but could do without Hold Me, especially if Lindsey won’t be on it.

I’d love to see Warm Ways, Brown Eyes, Over and Over, and Game of Pretend.

"Hold Me" would rely on brass and woodwinds. I would think flute, piccolo, and clarinet, and oboe during the verses, saxophone on the instrumental, then horns on the outro.

elle
03-27-2022, 10:25 AM
I think a percentage of the population thinks of Christine when they hear the word Songbird. It's a good title for her project. Especially at this stage in the game.

unfortunately, it's a smaller percentage of the population, people know it's FM song and call Nicks a Songbird, since she's the face. i've seen some music "critics" wrote articles like that too, apparently thinking SN wrote Songbird. same as most people think SN wrote and sings GYOW, you know it's her "top hat" signature song. :shrug:

so taking all that into account it is more than appropriate that Christine takes Songbird back where it belongs, and owns it once and for all. :]

i've recently seen a discussion on FB with some random guy being completely oblivious about the fact that Christine wrote double the amount of FM hits Stevie and Lindsey did and claiming that's just an "opinion" and asking to name the hits.

Macfan4life
03-27-2022, 10:59 AM
Another funny part of the interview besides her calling her first album Christine Mcvie was asking uncertainly that Tusk came after Rumours. She knew that but seemed a bit uncertain. Its funny because we probably know so much about their careers that they forget sometimes.
Charming to say the least :)
She rarely mentions her solo album and career. It was so nice of her to speak about it in such glowing terms and how much fun it was. Touched my heart :)

jbrownsjr
03-27-2022, 11:04 AM
If she tours the new Album, she won’t have to play or pretend to play.
She can sit in front of a small orchestra …and let them do their work.

I can see her perched on a stool, next to a grand piano, with pianist playing. .. maybe for an easy arrangement she could walk round and play..

I'd pay anything to see that!

elle
03-27-2022, 11:25 AM
nice overview of the interview by one of members here, FMfanUK -

http://fleetwoodmac-uk.com/wp/fleetwood-mac-star-christine-mcvie-announces-new-solo-album-retro-pop/?fbclid=IwAR2pLBMXmOWF8Gw8-_3grNnOgJM4EdHifDP2SyVtKwz0heU58f2PIlVn4FE

CHRISTINE MCVIE, FLEETWOOD MAC, RELEASE INFO, UK ARTICLES
FLEETWOOD MAC STAR CHRISTINE MCVIE ANNOUNCES NEW SOLO ALBUM | RETRO POP
MARCH 27, 2022 FMFANUK LEAVE A COMMENT

Christine McVie will release a new solo album this summer.

The singer-songwriter helped take Fleetwood Mac to the top of the charts with classic hits such as Say You Love Me, You Make Loving Fun, Everywhere and Little Lies.

Now, she’s set to revisit some of her best-loved compositions for a compilation album of reimagined recordings.

She told Gary Barlow’s ‘We Write The Songs’ podcast: “I’ve just finished an album, which is a compilation of my biggest hits, but they’ve all been produced again by Glyn Johns, Vince Mendoza on strings – who does this fantastic version on Songbird.

“So that’s gonna be released – but they all sound completely different.”

Elaborating on the new recording of the group’s classic piano ballad, she said: “We’ve just now actually re-cut it with a complete string orchestra and it sounds beautiful.”

Christine released her self-titled first solo album ‘Christine Perfect’ in 1970 and, 14 years later, returned with ‘Christine McVie’, featuring the UK Top 40 hits Got a Hold on Me and Love Will Show Us How.

Two decades later, she released its follow-up ‘In The Meantime’, and in 2017 collaborated with Lindsey Buckingham on their eponymous duets album.

While there’s new music in the pipeline, Christine is less certain about the future when it comes to returning to the road.

Asked whether there are plans for live shows, she confessed: “That, I daren’t comment on yet. I’m very cagey about things like that.”

While firm release details have yet to be confirmed, the album is due in June.

Retro Pop
27/03/2022

bwboy
03-27-2022, 11:29 AM
Another funny part of the interview besides her calling her first album Christine Mcvie was asking uncertainly that Tusk came after Rumours. She knew that but seemed a bit uncertain. Its funny because we probably know so much about their careers that they forget sometimes.
Charming to say the least :)
She rarely mentions her solo album and career. It was so nice of her to speak about it in such glowing terms and how much fun it was. Touched my heart :)

In an interview Christine gave as publicity for the Mirage Deluxe Edition, she admitted she had received her copy days before but hadn’t gotten around to listen to it yet. I was shocked. I mean, how could she have been so busy that she couldn’t play a CD? That was when I came to pretty much the same realization as you… the fans not only know more about the albums, dates, trivia, etc, but also are much more interested in their music than they even are. Or at least Christine, anyway. I mean, I can actually picture Mick or Lindsey opening the Deluxe Editions and listen to them and maybe compare the alternate takes to the original CD, but Christine just doesn’t have the interest. Nothing wrong with that, it just surprised me at first.

bwboy
03-27-2022, 11:37 AM
unfortunately, it's a smaller percentage of the population, people know it's FM song and call Nicks a Songbird, since she's the face. i've seen some music "critics" wrote articles like that too, apparently thinking SN wrote Songbird. same as most people think SN wrote and sings GYOW, you know it's her "top hat" signature song. :shrug:

so taking all that into account it is more than appropriate that Christine takes Songbird back where it belongs, and owns it once and for all. :]

i've recently seen a discussion on FB with some random guy being completely oblivious about the fact that Christine wrote double the amount of FM hits Stevie and Lindsey did and claiming that's just an "opinion" and asking to name the hits.

elle, I think you pay far more attention to Chiffonheads than you should. I mean, if someone called Stevie a ‘songbird,’ I highly doubt it was because they thought she wrote or sang the song Songbird. Songbird is a poetic term, like enchantress or some other silly word, ethereal is another word that comes to mind. Or maybe not silly, but those kinds of words are often used to describe her. I would hardly use songbird to describe Lindsey, or ethereal to describe Christine. Songbird does fit Christine because she wrote it, but it does tend to be used to describe female singers, not male singers.

Furthermore, if someone thought or thinks that Stevie wrote ago Your Own Way, then they’re clearly not a Fleetwood Mac fan.

elle
03-27-2022, 12:14 PM
Chiffonheads


if someone thought or thinks that Stevie wrote ago Your Own Way, then they’re clearly not a Fleetwood Mac fan.

i'm referring to general population, not specifically chiffonheads, SN cult, or FM fans. :)

so i completely stand by Christine taking the term songbird back.

same as LB successfully re-established "LB, FM legend" with his last album.

aleuzzi
03-27-2022, 02:29 PM
Nice interview. Some interesting comments about songwriting and about Mick’s importance to her.

Future Games was not recorded on the mobile unit. Her first solo album was not originally called “The Legendary…”. Just “Christine Perfect.” The additional language was a Blue Horizon marketing ploy to capitalize on the White album’s success. In Christine’s place, I would be terribly upset by that. She never seemed happy with it.

I wish she spoke more concretely about the pre-75 experience in FM.

sue
03-27-2022, 02:30 PM
I'd pay anything to see that!

It would be really nice, to see her in her home town of Birmingham.
There are plenty of intimate venues in Brum, that would suit her.

I don’t think she would pull in huge crowds…..in The UK I don’t think any of them would.
(Well maybe Stevie)

elle
03-27-2022, 02:47 PM
It would be really nice, to see her in her home town of Birmingham.
There are plenty of intimate venues in Brum, that would suit her.

I don’t think she would pull in huge crowds…..in The UK I don’t think any of them would.
(Well maybe Stevie)

huge crowds no, but Lindsey is touring theater size venues there, and his european dates are either sold our or close to. and Christine i believe is better known than Lindsey there, especially if she has some marketing with her compilation album which would remind people of how many of her huge hits they know.

yeah, i'm thinking you have a better chance to see her solo than we do in the US, but here's hoping!

aleuzzi
03-27-2022, 02:51 PM
Oh—and yes, I hope she doesn’t tour. I have confidence she could still play the hell out of a piano, but vocally she cannot manage a live show, especially on her own. Maybe a movie-doc where the best live takes are selected from an intimate environment.

sue
03-27-2022, 03:26 PM
huge crowds no, but Lindsey is touring theater size venues there, and his european dates are either sold our or close to. and Christine i believe is better known than Lindsey there, especially if she has some marketing with her compilation album which would remind people of how many of her huge hits they know.

yeah, i'm thinking you have a better chance to see her solo than we do in the US, but here's hoping!

I hope so, too.
I hope she does loads of tv and radio, pushing the Album.
…..she is very popular on radio in the UK.
(But then, BBC Radio 2 plays a lot of Fmac)

HomerMcvie
03-27-2022, 04:06 PM
unfortunately, it's a smaller percentage of the population, people know it's FM song and call Nicks a Songbird, since she's the face. i've seen some music "critics" wrote articles like that too, apparently thinking SN wrote Songbird. same as most people think SN wrote and sings GYOW, you know it's her "top hat" signature song. :shrug:

so taking all that into account it is more than appropriate that Christine takes Songbird back where it belongs, and owns it once and for all. :]

i've recently seen a discussion on FB with some random guy being completely oblivious about the fact that Christine wrote double the amount of FM hits Stevie and Lindsey did and claiming that's just an "opinion" and asking to name the hits.

Well Stevie IS Fleetwood Mac. :mad: Do you have a vomit bucket I can borrow?

The general public is stupid, and so are those so called music critics.

Macfan4life
03-27-2022, 05:16 PM
Well Stevie IS Fleetwood Mac. :mad: Do you have a vomit bucket I can borrow?

The general public is stupid, and so are those so called music critics.
She's not Fleetwood Mac. She is the lead singer.

DownOnRodeo
03-27-2022, 05:53 PM
I’d love to see Warm Ways, Brown Eyes, Over and Over, and Game of Pretend.

Oh my goodness, Over and Over and Brown Eyes with the orchestral treatment. Bring it on!

aleuzzi
03-27-2022, 06:34 PM
Oh my goodness, Over and Over and Brown Eyes with the orchestral treatment. Bring it on!

I’m hoping (without much expectation) for “Never Forget” and “Prove Your Love”

BLY
03-27-2022, 06:54 PM
This really can be epic. I’m sure (I assume) the original vocals will be used and the treatment of any of her “hits” will be a amazing . I hope we get a new gem.

jbrownsjr
03-27-2022, 07:00 PM
This really can be epic. I’m sure (I assume) the original vocals will be used and the treatment of any of her “hits” will be a amazing . I hope we get a new gem.

I still love her recorded voice. I can't wait. Something to look forward to.

SteveMacD
03-27-2022, 08:09 PM
This really can be epic. I’m sure (I assume) the original vocals will be used and the treatment of any of her “hits” will be a amazing . I hope we get a new gem.

I assume it’s new vocals, otherwise, wouldn’t it be credited to Fleetwood Mac?

jbrownsjr
03-27-2022, 08:12 PM
I assume it’s new vocals, otherwise, wouldn’t it be credited to Fleetwood Mac?

What if she does Red Sun or Forgiveness? ;)

aleuzzi
03-27-2022, 08:46 PM
What if she does Red Sun or Forgiveness? ;)

Forgiveness—unlikely, but please!

aleuzzi
03-27-2022, 08:47 PM
I assume it’s new vocals, otherwise, wouldn’t it be credited to Fleetwood Mac?

I am hoping for this.

SteveMacD
03-27-2022, 09:31 PM
What if she does Red Sun or Forgiveness? ;)

I’m imagining Stevie’s reaction, considering the whole “Silver Springs” debacle in 1991, if the original Fleetwood Mac recordings are used.

DownOnRodeo
03-27-2022, 10:01 PM
I think As Long As You Follow is a shoe-in. It has that languid, swelling feel of an orchestral piece. Just replace the lush backing vocals with strings.

TBH I'm not as much a fan of the funky, high-tempo songs being turned into orchestral arrangements. It feels a bit too Andre Rieu. No doubt they'll do You Make Lovin Fun and SYLM and Don't Stop, maybe Spare Me A Little, complete with their trademark funky rhythms, but I would much prefer a whole album of Eva Cassidy-style slow tempo fare. YMLF would be great in the slow-tempo style of the Jewel cover.

Tracks from the Welch era seems ripe for inclusion, since many of the originals already had strings. Fingers crossed for "Why."

vivfox
03-27-2022, 10:07 PM
Yes, LOL Gly Johns who is revered in the industry but only Stevie does not like because of her songs. He got the blame for Street Angel.

Ann and Nancy Wilson didn't like working with him either. Ann said that he called Nancy a 'hippie."
The fact that they were so offended by that makes me think they are over sensitive women.

Concerning the Street Angel fiasco, Glyn was a great producer for her. But Stevie never accepts the blame for a bad record. It's always somebody else's fault.

HomerMcvie
03-28-2022, 12:12 AM
Ann and Nancy Wilson didn't like working with him either. Ann said that he called Nancy a 'hippie."
The fact that they were so offended by that makes me think they are over sensitive women.

Concerning the Street Angel fiasco, Glyn was a great producer for her. But Stevie never accepts the blame for a bad record. It's always somebody else's fault.

The Eagles didn't like working with him either. He was a control freak, and didn't want them partying in the studio, and wanted no input from the band, concerning his mix. He and Frey didn't get along at all.

Nothing has ever been Stevie's fault. Just axe her.

Macfan4life
03-28-2022, 03:59 AM
Dont flame me but I think our fandom is going to be hurt just like with the set lists. I bet its going to be a very commercial CD of mostly her hit singles. Good grief YES it would be a dream to hear Brown Eyes with strings, etc. I bet Songbird is going to be the least commercial song on the album.
Gosh I hope I am wrong but its not marketed to us just like the Fleetwood Mac set lists are not marketed at us (on this board) either. I was reading some of these posts and I would be floored if such songs were discovered and put on a CD. Chris has so many hits and I bet even some of her hits wont make the album let alone her deeper best tracks. Now if anything should be played with strings its Oh Daddy :) I bet we wont even get hits like Love In Store and Think About Me :(

bwboy
03-28-2022, 05:48 AM
Ann and Nancy Wilson didn't like working with him either. Ann said that he called Nancy a 'hippie."
The fact that they were so offended by that makes me think they are over sensitive women.

Concerning the Street Angel fiasco, Glyn was a great producer for her. But Stevie never accepts the blame for a bad record. It's always somebody else's fault.

I know next to nothing about Glyn Johns, but Street Angel is a horrible album, and he can take as much blame as Stevie for how bad it is. There’s plenty of blame for everyone, I say.

bwboy
03-28-2022, 05:59 AM
Dont flame me but I think our fandom is going to be hurt just like with the set lists. I bet its going to be a very commercial CD of mostly her hit singles. Good grief YES it would be a dream to hear Brown Eyes with strings, etc. I bet Songbird is going to be the least commercial song on the album. Now if anything should be played with strings its Oh Daddy :) I bet we wont even get hits like Love In Store and Think About Me :(

Sadly, you could be right about this. It’s just really hard to say. After all, surely they (and I’m not sure who ‘they’ is) will realize that this album will appeal to huge Fleetwood Mac fans, so it makes sense they’ll include the big hits. Songs like Love in Store and Think About Me were not big hits, so while I like those songs a lot, I would be surprised if they’re included. Still, FM had performed Think About Me recently live, so maybe.

I didn’t include As Long As You Follow because I wasn’t sure the song would be a good choice for orchestra, considering how prominent Rick Vito’s guitar playing is. DownOnRodeo convinced me otherwise, though. I also think Christine likes Brown Eyes, it’s one of the few Tusk songs she’s performed more than one tour, and I’m fascinated to hear it with an orchestra. Oh Daddy is a possibility because it’s on Rumours, which makes it well known.

I was thrilled to see that the Christine McVie forum on the Ledge had more viewers than any other forum here, including the Rumours lineup. It’s awesome to see Christine get some love here, usually her forum is pretty quiet.

Macfan4life
03-28-2022, 06:19 AM
I know next to nothing about Glyn Johns, but Street Angel is a horrible album, and he can take as much blame as Stevie for how bad it is. There’s plenty of blame for everyone, I say.
Hate the game, not the player. IMHO Street Angel is a good album or at least half of it. Lots of it was recorded before rehab and its a miracle it happened. I love that she embraced a country rock theme compared to a pop record. There is good music on the album. If you strip all the vocals and just listen to the music tracks, they are pretty good. But if the songs are crap, there are limits to how a good producer can polish a turd. Someday take another listen to the album. Half of it is pretty good. I love how uncommercial it is. The music industry had changed and just because it did not sell many copies does not make it a bad album. IMHO its ten times better than Trouble In Shangri-la.

jbrownsjr
03-28-2022, 07:46 AM
Really curious to see if this has new vocals. I'm thrilled to see her doing anything music wise.

elle
03-28-2022, 09:40 AM
Really curious to see if this has new vocals. I'm thrilled to see her doing anything music wise.

i'm thinking it will, because she sold her catalog in all different possible ways in the last 20+ years. so to own some of it she needs newly recorded versions. kinda like "Taylor's version" albums.

so i fully expect it will mostly be her huge hits, and then some surprises. like we've heard Wish You Were Here on Buckvie tour, and i thought she sang it beautifully on some dates. and they can manipulate her voice in the studio to sound good.

jbrownsjr
03-28-2022, 09:58 AM
i'm thinking it will, because she sold her catalog in all different possible ways in the last 20+ years. so to own some of it she needs newly recorded versions. kinda like "Taylor's version" albums.

so i fully expect it will mostly be her huge hits, and then some surprises. like we've heard Wish You Were Here on Buckvie tour, and i thought she sang it beautifully on some dates. and they can manipulate her voice in the studio to sound good.

I would really love it if she did a special much like Peter Green's tribute.
Special guests: Lindsey, Mick, Stevie, Eric Clapton etc

vivfox
03-28-2022, 10:07 AM
I was thrilled to see that the Christine McVie forum on the Ledge had more viewers than any other forum here, including the Rumours lineup. It’s awesome to see Christine get some love here, usually her forum is pretty quiet.

That's because we actually have a recorded current interview with her and it's good. The rest of the forums are filled with our conflicting opinions and rehashed articles.

jbrownsjr
03-28-2022, 10:27 AM
That's because we actually have a recorded current interview with her and it's good. The rest of the forums are filled with our conflicting opinions and rehashed articles.

So much truth in that. Christine is warmth and beauty in the middle of some very ugly actions and behavior. I've always said, "I can't imagine why she needed 15 years vacation."

Macfan4life
03-28-2022, 11:07 AM
I would really love it if she did a special much like Peter Green's tribute.
Special guests: Lindsey, Mick, Stevie, Eric Clapton etc
No Stevie. Can we get the girl from the Ho Ho's as a stand by instead? You know the wild one from the Red Rocks show :)
The real Stevie would be a distraction with all the chiffon heads packing the show just to see her. It would take the oxygen out of Christine's show.|
Todd Sharpe YES
Steve Winwood YES
Lindsey YES
Eric Clapton YES


I would keep John and Mick away so Stevie's feelings don't get hurt that she was the only one not invited.

jbrownsjr
03-28-2022, 11:23 AM
No Stevie. Can we get the girl from the Ho Ho's as a stand by instead? You know the wild one from the Red Rocks show :)
The real Stevie would be a distraction with all the chiffon heads packing the show just to see her. It would take the oxygen out of Christine's show.|
Todd Sharpe YES
Steve Winwood YES
Lindsey YES
Eric Clapton YES


I would keep John and Mick away so Stevie's feelings don't get hurt that she was the only one not invited.

I disagree. I think one or two songs where Stevie was on vocally (LIttle Lies, ALAYF).

I think it would enhance to the spirit of what she's trying to do.

Macfan4life
03-28-2022, 12:54 PM
I disagree. I think one or two songs where Stevie was on vocally (LIttle Lies, ALAYF).

I think it would enhance to the spirit of what she's trying to do.
I will eat my shoe live on Facebook if ALAYF is ever performed by Chris anywhere. Not going to happen.

I disagree. Stevie's appearance would be a distraction and totally take away from what Chris is trying to accomplish. 87.4% of Mac concert goers are there only to see Stevie. The performance is for Chris and her music. Stevie and her gang would suck all the oxygen out of the room. Its about the music, not the cult of personality.
For the love of God, if Chris ever performed solo anywhere let us relish and soak up the moment, not ruin it :(

Chris and Lindsey handled Little Lies quite well on their tour without the witch. Her vocals are not needed. Lindsey proved that during the Tango sessions :lol:

On Lindsey's current tour, would it not be a distraction if he invited Stevie on his stage to perform a few songs? Of course it would. Please let us enjoy the music and Christine the same way.

jbrownsjr
03-28-2022, 02:12 PM
I will eat my shoe live on Facebook if ALAYF is ever performed by Chris anywhere. Not going to happen.

I disagree. Stevie's appearance would be a distraction and totally take away from what Chris is trying to accomplish. 87.4% of Mac concert goers are there only to see Stevie. The performance is for Chris and her music. Stevie and her gang would suck all the oxygen out of the room. Its about the music, not the cult of personality.
For the love of God, if Chris ever performed solo anywhere let us relish and soak up the moment, not ruin it :(

Chris and Lindsey handled Little Lies quite well on their tour without the witch. Her vocals are not needed. Lindsey proved that during the Tango sessions :lol:

On Lindsey's current tour, would it not be a distraction if he invited Stevie on his stage to perform a few songs? Of course it would. Please let us enjoy the music and Christine the same way.

Again, I disagree. And I would enjoy it either way. Especially in the spirit of what I think she's going for, in this case.

I just hope the arrangements are not intrumentals or original vocals. And I have a nagging feeling that's going to be the case. (Thanks a lot Tony!!! ) :)

Macfan4life
03-29-2022, 08:43 AM
Picture it...…
A small intimate theater with Christine front and center with special guests who worked on her solo album play her hits.

OR
Special guest Stevie Nicks. Plays a much larger venue because of chiffon heads. The crowd goes wild when Stevie takes the stage and her performance gets the lion share of the applause. People throw stuffed animals and flowers on stage for Stevie. She does 3 songs with Chris on stage and leaves. Part of the audience bolts from the theater after Stevie's exit.

I prefer option 1.

jbrownsjr
03-29-2022, 09:19 AM
Picture it...…
A small intimate theater with Christine front and center with special guests who worked on her solo album play her hits.

OR
Special guest Stevie Nicks. Plays a much larger venue because of chiffon heads. The crowd goes wild when Stevie takes the stage and her performance gets the lion share of the applause. People throw stuffed animals and flowers on stage for Stevie. She does 3 songs with Chris on stage and leaves. Part of the audience bolts from the theater after Stevie's exit.

I prefer option 1.

Well, for me I'm not concerned about the fans, I'm more concerned about the show and her history. (Which like it or not, Stevie is a HUGE part of Christine's history.)

Nice London arena with orchestra. Christine in the middle with grand piano. Special guests: Mick Fleetwood, Stevie Nicks, Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Lindsey Buckingham and more.

For me it's about the show and honoring her musical career. Not really caring about the fans who show up. I respect your opinion of chiffonheads, I just disagree on what we would like to see. (It's ok to argue about Christine, just don't argue about Stevie or Lindsey. It's not allowed on this board. ;) )

And my billing is just a dream, just a dream just a dream knowing nothing ever changes even in the back of my mind.

bwboy
03-29-2022, 11:12 AM
Picture it...…
A small intimate theater with Christine front and center with special guests who worked on her solo album play her hits.

OR
Special guest Stevie Nicks. Plays a much larger venue because of chiffon heads. The crowd goes wild when Stevie takes the stage and her performance gets the lion share of the applause. People throw stuffed animals and flowers on stage for restimate the timpact of Stevie fans Stevie. She does 3 songs with Chris on stage and leaves. Part of the audience bolts from the theater after Stevie's exit.

I prefer option 1.

It’s a moot point anyway because if Christine does tour, it will no doubt be a limited engagement, and Stevie Nicks isn’t going to tour with Christine McVie, so your ‘worst case scenario’ wouldn’t happen. Which is good. But if you’re talking a one night event, kind of like the Peter Green tribute concert, then I would like Stevie there, along with Lindsey and Billy and various other folks who have been a part of Christine’s musical journey.

bwboy
03-29-2022, 11:16 AM
Well, for me I'm not concerned about the fans, I'm more concerned about the show and her history. (Which like it or not, Stevie is a HUGE part of Christine's history.)

Nice London arena with orchestra. Christine in the middle with grand piano. Special guests: Mick Fleetwood, Stevie Nicks, Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Lindsey Buckingham and more.

For me it's about the show and honoring her musical career. Not really caring about the fans who show up. I respect your opinion of chiffonheads, I just disagree on what we would like to see. (It's ok to argue about Christine, just don't argue about Stevie or Lindsey. It's not allowed on this board. ;) )

And my billing is just a dream, just a dream just a dream knowing nothing ever changes even in the back of my mind.

How about Billy Burnette? I know he was, in the picture, not a huge player in her career, but he did perform with Christine years before he joined FM. Besides, it would be the only opportunity we’d have to hear Love Shines and/or Heart of Stone. Now that’s a dream!

I love your list of special guests. Maybe the woman from Paramore, too, just to add a little youth to the event. She sang Everywhere live, so she must be a fan.

elle
03-29-2022, 12:41 PM
Well, for me I'm not concerned about the fans, I'm more concerned about the show and her history. (Which like it or not, Stevie is a HUGE part of Christine's history.)

Nice London arena with orchestra. Christine in the middle with grand piano. Special guests: Mick Fleetwood, Stevie Nicks, Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Lindsey Buckingham and more.

For me it's about the show and honoring her musical career. Not really caring about the fans who show up. I respect your opinion of chiffonheads, I just disagree on what we would like to see. (It's ok to argue about Christine, just don't argue about Stevie or Lindsey. It's not allowed on this board. ;) )

And my billing is just a dream, just a dream just a dream knowing nothing ever changes even in the back of my mind.

i cannot believe you are advocating this while saying you care about Christine.

elle
03-29-2022, 12:44 PM
Picture it...…
A small intimate theater with Christine front and center with special guests who worked on her solo album play her hits.

OR
Special guest Stevie Nicks. Plays a much larger venue because of chiffon heads. The crowd goes wild when Stevie takes the stage and her performance gets the lion share of the applause. People throw stuffed animals and flowers on stage for Stevie. She does 3 songs with Chris on stage and leaves. Part of the audience bolts from the theater after Stevie's exit.

I prefer option 1.

cannot agree more. this is about Christine taking her name and her significance in FM back. not about handing it even more to someone else.

that said, maybe we should check with fans who were at Lindsey's Soundstage show. because Stevie was a special guest there, and that seems pretty obvious was because of Lindsey's insecurity as a solo act at the time, after almost 15 year gap of not doing anything solo. maybe Christine is just as insecure. however i really don't wish that for her for her possibly last ever event or tour.

jbrownsjr
03-29-2022, 02:01 PM
i cannot believe you are advocating this while saying you care about Christine.

It was part of her history, like it, don't like it. But, having the guests that were there with her during her journey is appropriate in my opinion. Do I like what Stevie has turned into? Hell no, but she is a part of Christine's career. As is: Lindsey, Mick, John, Billy, Clapton, Winwood, Sharp, Ferone, etc etc. They should honor her by participating if she had a one off show.

Her Fleetwood Mac hits especially Lindsey and Stevie. I have no problem with any of them guesting for a one off. I didn't say they would tour with her.

And yes BBoy Billy would certainly be welcome in my "mind's eye fantasy."

Macfan4life
03-29-2022, 02:15 PM
It may be part of her history but her presence would ruin the show. No one disputes she was part of a fantastic legacy. That has nothing to do with a potential solo concert by Chris. A solo concert by Christine McVie is the rarest bottle of wine in the world. Why would you want to eat McDonalds with it? Savor it. Let it be the entire focus to the last drop. This is not 1984. This is the end. Let Chris have her night.

To let Stevie suck all the oxygen out of such a treasure and rare show is nothing short of scandalous. I bet even Stevie would feel uncomfortable about it. Chris and Stevie never wrote songs or music together like Lindsey, Billy, Todd, etc. They did nothing creatively together. Stevie only provided a few back up vocals when they weren't editing her out of songs like Dont Stop, Think About Me and Hold Me :eek:
Let the creative ones share the stage. There is no room for cow bell in any of Chris's songs :lol:

jbrownsjr
03-29-2022, 03:16 PM
It may be part of her history but her presence would ruin the show. No one disputes she was part of a fantastic legacy. That has nothing to do with a potential solo concert by Chris. A solo concert by Christine McVie is the rarest bottle of wine in the world. Why would you want to eat McDonalds with it? Savor it. Let it be the entire focus to the last drop. This is not 1984. This is the end. Let Chris have her night.

To let Stevie suck all the oxygen out of such a treasure and rare show is nothing short of scandalous. I bet even Stevie would feel uncomfortable about it. Chris and Stevie never wrote songs or music together like Lindsey, Billy, Todd, etc. They did nothing creatively together. Stevie only provided a few back up vocals when they weren't editing her out of songs like Dont Stop, Think About Me and Hold Me :eek:
Let the creative ones share the stage. There is no room for cow bell in any of Chris's songs :lol:

Again, I talking about special guests for one song. Cow bell could be used for So Excited.

HomerMcvie
03-29-2022, 03:21 PM
Let her and Lindsey do BuckVie II.

F*ck FM. Let em stick the old goat where the sun don't shine...:laugh::wavey:

jbrownsjr
03-29-2022, 03:36 PM
Let her and Lindsey do BuckVie II.

F*ck FM. Let em stick the old goat where the sun don't shine...:laugh::wavey:

hahaha I've been waiting for you to get here!! :xoxo:

bwboy
03-29-2022, 03:40 PM
It was part of her history, like it, don't like it. But, having the guests that were there with her during her journey is appropriate in my opinion. Do I like what Stevie has turned into? Hell no, but she is a part of Christine's career. As is: Lindsey, Mick, John, Billy, Clapton, Winwood, Sharp, Ferone, etc etc. They should honor her by participating if she had a one off show.

Her Fleetwood Mac hits especially Lindsey and Stevie. I have no problem with any of them guesting for a one off. I didn't say they would tour with her.

And yes BBoy Billy would certainly be welcome in my "mind's eye fantasy."

I see your point and agree with you. It sounds like a few folks think any sort of concert or event should be only what they want, and not necessarily what Christine or other folks want. I mean, I dislike Eric Clapton quite a bit, but in no way would I say he should not be in a tribute concert for Christine. I’m able to separate my feelings from the situation. No one person, not Stevie or Eric or Steve Winwood or anyone else is capable of sucking the air out of the room for any sort of event that would celebrate Christine McVie! And if you really think that’s the case, that says a lot about what you think of Christine’s music, and Christine herself.

BTW I love how I just got so wrapped up in this crazy scenario where I’m debating with people about a tribute concert that hasn’t even been scheduled LOL! But no one can take away from Christine’s talent, and her stage presence is endearing and I think seeing her interact with various guests would be incredible! I’ve decided I would absolutely see her in concert if she came within 4 hours, and hand on my Bible, if there were some sort of one night only tribute concert with her in England or Hawaii or California, I would probably go to it, and I wouldn’t give AF who was performing with her.

HomerMcvie
03-29-2022, 03:58 PM
hahaha I've been waiting for you to get here!! :xoxo:

I was out collecting tin cans for $tevie.

Macfan4life
03-29-2022, 04:41 PM
Let her and Lindsey do BuckVie II.

F*ck FM. Let em stick the old goat where the sun don't shine...:laugh::wavey:
A-men brother
Even before Lindsey's firing, Stevie disrespected the Mac's legacy by making up fake reasons not to record with the group. Then she melted down they did it without her. People that want to hear Stand Back, you will get your chance at one of her solo shows. If Heaven and Earth meet and Chris does even 1 live show, please let her shine in her own glory.

Macfan4life
03-29-2022, 04:42 PM
Again, I talking about special guests for one song. Cow bell could be used for So Excited.
So Excited has a complicated beat. I doubt she could do it.

HomerMcvie
03-29-2022, 04:59 PM
A-men brother
Even before Lindsey's firing, Stevie disrespected the Mac's legacy by making up fake reasons not to record with the group. Then she melted down they did it without her. People that want to hear Stand Back, you will get your chance at one of her solo shows. If Heaven and Earth meet and Chris does even 1 live show, please let her shine in her own glory.

$he's the worst thing that ever happened to them. Especially once $he became A LEGEND(in her own tiny brain).

SteveMacD
03-29-2022, 05:10 PM
Yay.

More Stevie bashing.

HomerMcvie
03-29-2022, 05:43 PM
Yeah. We don't like her!

SteveMacD
03-29-2022, 06:06 PM
It just sucks that we can’t get through a conversation like this without trashing Stevie or waxing poetic about LBCM. There can never just be a simple conversation about Christine. It always has to become some type of weird proxy debate in the Stevie-Lindsey feud. It’s exhausting.

jbrownsjr
03-29-2022, 06:21 PM
It just sucks that we can’t get through a conversation like this without trashing Stevie or waxing poetic about LBCM. There can never just be a simple conversation about Christine. It always has to become some type of weird proxy debate in the Stevie-Lindsey feud. It’s exhausting.

Well, if we can side step Stevie bashing for a second.

1. What do you think this album/tour is going to be?

2. Wouldn't it be cool to do a tribute to a legend like Christine and have the special guests of her life join her for a song? (Thinking in the set up of PG Tribute)

Macfan4life
03-29-2022, 06:47 PM
Yay.

More Stevie bashing.
I like Stevie's music. But I am not afraid to talk about the elephant in the living room. This thread pivoted on hypothetical dreams about a Christine solo concert or even a mini tour (which I think is highly unlikely). We talked about possible guests and I am open and honest enough to say Stevie would ruin the entire thing. Some of her fans are disrespectful to the band. They walk out when she leaves the stage almost like a fire alarm went off. In 1987 when I was waiting in the line to buy concert tickets for the 1987 tour, I was there very early with the rabid "fans." All I heard was "no one goes to see Christine, she is ugly." This ugliness is a reality that gave Stevie the power she has when she gave her ultimatum. She has the power to fill the arena and Mick and the band took profit over legacy. That is their choice but we are free to write and talk about it. You may disagree but I would never want her on stage at a Chris solo concert unless it was a surprise and no one knew she was coming. Its the same reason Stevie did not take the stage on the last night of Chris's short solo tour in1984. It would have been disrespectful. Even Stevie knew that. It was Chris's night and she was not going to upstage her.
If you call that Stevie bashing for talking about the elephant in the room, I plead guilty!

SteveMacD
03-29-2022, 08:29 PM
I like Stevie's music. But I am not afraid to talk about the elephant in the living room. This thread pivoted on hypothetical dreams about a Christine solo concert or even a mini tour (which I think is highly unlikely). We talked about possible guests and I am open and honest enough to say Stevie would ruin the entire thing. Some of her fans are disrespectful to the band. They walk out when she leaves the stage almost like a fire alarm went off. In 1987 when I was waiting in the line to buy concert tickets for the 1987 tour, I was there very early with the rabid "fans." All I heard was "no one goes to see Christine, she is ugly." This ugliness is a reality that gave Stevie the power she has when she gave her ultimatum. She has the power to fill the arena and Mick and the band took profit over legacy. That is their choice but we are free to write and talk about it. You may disagree but I would never want her on stage at a Chris solo concert unless it was a surprise and no one knew she was coming. Its the same reason Stevie did not take the stage on the last night of Chris's short solo tour in1984. It would have been disrespectful. Even Stevie knew that. It was Chris's night and she was not going to upstage her.
If you call that Stevie bashing for talking about the elephant in the room, I plead guilty!

We’re talking an Albert Hall type all-star tribute show dedicated to the music of Christine McVie. Do you seriously think significant numbers of chiffonheads would pay thousands to fly to London, hundreds on hotel rooms, and hundreds or thousands for tickets just to see Stevie singing on maybe a handful of songs?

However, when it’s an all-star type show and the vast majority of the set is going to be Fleetwood Mac songs, it would be much weirder in that context for Stevie to not be a part of it. Same for Lindsey, which would make for an interesting night.

SteveMacD
03-29-2022, 08:39 PM
Well, if we can side step Stevie bashing for a second.

1. What do you think this album/tour is going to be?

2. Wouldn't it be cool to do a tribute to a legend like Christine and have the special guests of her life join her for a song? (Thinking in the set up of PG Tribute)

1. I think the album will be remakes of her some of her biggest songs. I doubt it's going to be too adventurous, however, it will have orchestral accompaniment. As such, it's going to be dominated by Fleetwood Mac songs.

Concert wise, I see Christine maybe doing a limited engagement "tour" (where it could be weeks between shows) with her and a small core backing band playing with a local orchestra or philharmonic.

2. I'd be down for that, too. However, I don't think that will have anything to do with this new album.

DownOnRodeo
03-29-2022, 08:48 PM
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jbrownsjr
03-29-2022, 09:05 PM
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Macfan4life
03-30-2022, 05:40 AM
We’re talking an Albert Hall type all-star tribute show dedicated to the music of Christine McVie. Do you seriously think significant numbers of chiffonheads would pay thousands to fly to London, hundreds on hotel rooms, and hundreds or thousands for tickets just to see Stevie singing on maybe a handful of songs?

However, when it’s an all-star type show and the vast majority of the set is going to be Fleetwood Mac songs, it would be much weirder in that context for Stevie to not be a part of it. Same for Lindsey, which would make for an interesting night.
Steve,
You are taking things out of context again. Where has it been announced there is a London show and only 1 show? We or I was talking hypotheticals about a few shows or mini tour that I already doubted would happen. Chris struggled with vocals years ago when she was only singing on a fraction of songs. Can she pull off an entire show with singing every song?
Chris and Stevie have never written music together or wrote songs together. Stevie's presence is not needed and would be more of a distraction IMHO. Chris would be trying to focus on her music. You want to keep ignoring the Lindsey/Stevie dynamic and if anyone should be there its Lindsey. Stevie said she never wanted to share the stage with Lindsey again. If that is the case then Stevie herself already took herself out of the equation. Chris does not want or need this kind of drama on her stage. Lindsey wrote and performed music with Chris. He needs to be there. Or maybe there can be a sound proof box that they can put Stevie in. When Lindsey leaves the stage they can give her a cue to come out when Lindsey leaves the stage. You see the nonsense this would create? The story would not be Chris's music but the drama from Stevie. That was the beautiful thing about Buck/Vie. No drama. It was about the music.

DownOnRodeo
03-30-2022, 07:22 AM
Or maybe there can be a sound proof box that they can put Stevie in.

Now there's a tour strategy I can get behind!
Also recommended for pressers and award ceremonies. :laugh:

jbrownsjr
03-30-2022, 07:37 AM
Now there's a tour strategy I can get behind!
Also recommended for pressers and award ceremonies. :laugh:

I would never stop laughing is Stevie was put in a plastic box :]

Macfan4life
03-30-2022, 08:09 AM
I would never stop laughing is Stevie was put in a plastic box :]
The only problem is you could not hear the cow bell from the isolation booth.

2:05 Stevie, step into your isolation booth while Lindsey takes the stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpc1haD2du8&t=493s

jbrownsjr
03-30-2022, 08:28 AM
The only problem is you could not hear the cow bell from the isolation booth.

2:05 Stevie, step into your isolation booth while Lindsey takes the stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpc1haD2du8&t=493s

Could we ever hear her cowbell?

HomerMcvie
03-30-2022, 10:25 AM
That was the beautiful thing about Buck/Vie. No drama. It was about the music.

Exactly. Take the goat out of the equation, and there's peace, love, and harmony.

And my perfekt swan song for FM. Let's have another one!!!!:blob2::blob1::blob2::blob1::blob2:

HomerMcvie
03-30-2022, 10:26 AM
I would never stop laughing is Stevie was put in a plastic box :]

Hey, a fella can dream!!!

Can we make sure it's airtight, first? ;):D:xoxo:

Macfan4life
03-30-2022, 10:35 AM
Hey, a fella can dream!!!

Can we make sure it's airtight, first? ;):D:xoxo:
I just thought of a great idea. Remember those boxes that housed the musicians on Christine's video: Love will show us how. They were suspended in air above the stage. Stevie can easily fit into one of those. Her back up singers can share adjacent boxes. Lindsey cand then peacefully perform on the stage.

Just in case you forgot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt2lQP4ln3g

HomerMcvie
03-30-2022, 11:18 AM
I just thought of a great idea. Remember those boxes that housed the musicians on Christine's video: Love will show us how. They were suspended in air above the stage. Stevie can easily fit into one of those. Her back up singers can share adjacent boxes. Lindsey cand then peacefully perform on the stage.

Just in case you forgot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt2lQP4ln3g

I'm all for putting Stevie in a box.;)

I haven't forgotten. I've got it on DVD, along with her solo concert.

Jondalar
03-30-2022, 03:01 PM
When is Christine's new album coming out? Get me up to date. Of course I'm going to buy it.

David
03-30-2022, 04:46 PM
"Hold Me" would rely on brass and woodwinds. I would think flute, piccolo, and clarinet, and oboe during the verses, saxophone on the instrumental, then horns on the outro.
I’m already starting to get the shakes. I don’t think I’m looking forward to this at all!

https://thedisneyodyssey.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/vlcsnap-2014-09-24-21h29m35s15.png

DownOnRodeo
03-30-2022, 06:13 PM
Ha!

It occurs to me that this is exactly what a Christine show/tribute should be. Christine doesn't take herself (or anyone else) anywhere near as seriously as that fiery, intense American duo (who shall remain unnamed on this subLedge). A celebration of Christine and her oeuvre should be fun, low-key, lighthearted, and candid. None of this over-scripted, over-produced, overblown fare.

Lest we forget, Christine was the one egging on Lindsey to foul-mouth the Classics tours in an interview. She was the one dancing a waltz while Her Holiness commanded the podium.

Orchestral backing, sure, but rein in the schmaltz (there's enough of that in her lyrics!). Add some mischief to the show.

aleuzzi
03-30-2022, 07:21 PM
When is Christine's new album coming out? Get me up to date. Of course I'm going to buy it.

There’s a new album of new arrangements of old songs. None of us are certain if these will feature new vocals. They might be instrumental versions or new arrangements using the original vocals. Christine has not specified either way and the interviewer didn’t ask for a distinction. I’m not sure if she’s being cagey because she wants to underplay the momentousness of full-on new versions (with new vocals) or if she is trying to divert us from the underwhelming possibility that these are either instrumentals or original vocals with fresh accompaniment.

I’m hoping it’s new vocals, new arrangements, but wouldn’t Christine have mentioned what it was like to sing these old songs in new ways? I’m annoyed that the reality (whatever it is) has been talked around.

HomerMcvie
03-30-2022, 09:19 PM
There’s a new album of new arrangements of old songs. None of us are certain if these will feature new vocals. They might be instrumental versions or new arrangements using the original vocals. Christine has not specified either way and the interviewer didn’t ask for a distinction. I’m not sure if she’s being cagey because she wants to underplay the momentousness of full-on new versions (with new vocals) or if she is trying to divert us from the underwhelming possibility that these are either instrumentals or original vocals with fresh accompaniment.

I’m hoping it’s new vocals, new arrangements, but wouldn’t Christine have mentioned what it was like to sing these old songs in new ways? I’m annoyed that the reality (whatever it is) has been talked around.

I'd love new vocals and totally new recordings, but I'm afraid it's just going to be a bunch stuff overdubbed onto the original recordings. I hope I'm wrong!

jbrownsjr
03-31-2022, 07:30 AM
I'd love new vocals and totally new recordings, but I'm afraid it's just going to be a bunch stuff overdubbed onto the original recordings. I hope I'm wrong!

Seriously, that's why I'm not that excited. I don't think this is going to be much. :shocked:

aleuzzi
03-31-2022, 08:18 AM
Seriously, that's why I'm not that excited. I don't think this is going to be much. :shocked:

I’m reading digests of her interview in the news and it’s interesting to see how reporters are automatically assuming that she, along with the producers, just finished recording new versions. But her own language has not confirmed this. We know her well enough to expect she’d say something about the process and the experience of being back in the studio—so why the silence unless she’s deliberately trying to sidestep what this project actually is.

I hope to god I’m wrong.

jbrownsjr
03-31-2022, 08:51 AM
I’m reading digests of her interview in the news and it’s interesting to see how reporters are automatically assuming that she, along with the producers, just finished recording new versions. But her own language has not confirmed this. We know her well enough to expect she’d say something about the process and the experience of being back in the studio—so why the silence unless she’s deliberately trying to sidestep what this project actually is.

I hope to god I’m wrong.

You're not wring. She's what 77 or 78 years old? I mean my grandma couldn't walk at that point. I appreciate she will be celebrated, but this isn't anything new or exciting. It's almost like looking at their setlists.

HomerMcvie
03-31-2022, 09:13 AM
You're not wring. She's what 77 or 78 years old? I mean my grandma couldn't walk at that point. I appreciate she will be celebrated, but this isn't anything new or exciting. It's almost like looking at their setlists.

Man, it's hard watching your heroes, which are hard to find, get old and approaching the inevitable. Because I'm getting older, too.

I'll be glad for what we get, but my hopes aren't up too much for what it will be.

jbrownsjr
03-31-2022, 11:43 AM
Man, it's hard watching your heroes, which are hard to find, get old and approaching the inevitable. Because I'm getting older, too.

I'll be glad for what we get, but my hopes aren't up too much for what it will be.

You will have to Prove your Love.

aleuzzi
03-31-2022, 08:43 PM
Man, it's hard watching your heroes, which are hard to find, get old and approaching the inevitable. Because I'm getting older, too.



Although I’m not making plans, I don’t want to know the reasons why she can’t go back and redo the vocals. Even at 78, she’s still more than the face of a pretty girl.

HomerMcvie
03-31-2022, 09:07 PM
Although I’m not making plans, I don’t want to know the reasons why she can’t go back and redo the vocals. Even at 78, she’s still more than the face of a pretty girl.

Yeah, but the frog in her throat on the Tusk doc is now an army of frogs. Why? I don't wanna know.

jbrownsjr
04-01-2022, 07:36 AM
YOU ARE speculating my fears. Hopefully our Northern Star will Think About It and stop feeding us calumnies.

sue
04-01-2022, 11:40 AM
I have a feeling the new album will be along the lines of …”Elvis with the Royal Philharmonic orchestra”….(something like that)…If I can Dream.

In other words taking her old stuff and adding an orchestra.
I hope not but realistically, she’s 78
I don’t think her voice will be good enough..I hope I’m wrong

jbrownsjr
04-01-2022, 05:18 PM
I have a feeling the new album will be along the lines of …”Elvis with the Royal Philharmonic orchestra”….(something like that)…If I can Dream.

In other words taking her old stuff and adding an orchestra.
I hope not but realistically, she’s 78
I don’t think her voice will be good enough..I hope I’m wrong

We wait with bated breath.

sue
04-01-2022, 05:27 PM
We wait with bated breath.

Thinking about it though, how would that work…does her old material with Fmac belong to her. I don’t mean the written song, I mean the Mac recording???…say Songbird, the Rumours version.
Would she now be able to use Fmac recordings …..and have them enhanced , I don’t think she would.
So……..maybe it will be new recordings of her voice…maybe.

aleuzzi
04-01-2022, 07:19 PM
Yeah, but the frog in her throat on the Tusk doc is now an army of frogs. Why? I don't wanna know.

But that’s the thing. She can still sound great in a studio setting with as many takes as she needs, and with the help of whatever gadgetry aids her. I’m not a fan of using machines to smooth out vocals (or faces for that matter) but in Christine’s case the process works wonders. Her voice on BuckVie sounded warm and sweet. Like the Christine of yore.

HomerMcvie
04-01-2022, 11:17 PM
But that’s the thing. She can still sound great in a studio setting with as many takes as she needs, and with the help of whatever gadgetry aids her. I’m not a fan of using machines to smooth out vocals (or faces for that matter) but in Christine’s case the process works wonders. Her voice on BuckVie sounded warm and sweet. Like the Christine of yore.
Agreed. It's a little heartbreaking to know that she can't do it live, though. Which is why I'd rather have a BuckVie II at this point, than another tour...

Okay, I'm lying. I want BOTH!

HomerMcvie
04-01-2022, 11:21 PM
Thinking about it though, how would that work…does her old material with Fmac belong to her. I don’t mean the written song, I mean the Mac recording???…say Songbird, the Rumours version.
Would she now be able to use Fmac recordings …..and have them enhanced , I don’t think she would.
So……..maybe it will be new recordings of her voice…maybe.
You should probably axe $tevie how that worked out for her, when $he wanted Silver Springs. Old Mick shot her down like a pair of Biddy's dirty granny panties.

Before he realized he could sell them for a nickel...:laugh:

aleuzzi
04-02-2022, 07:53 AM
Thinking about it though, how would that work…does her old material with Fmac belong to her. I don’t mean the written song, I mean the Mac recording???…say Songbird, the Rumours version.
Would she now be able to use Fmac recordings …..and have them enhanced , I don’t think she would.
So……..maybe it will be new recordings of her voice…maybe.

That’s why one of the possibilities I’m expecting is purely instrumental re-recordings, without any vocals…

Honestly, I do still think Christine can sing these songs in a studio (lots of takes, some studio machinery), but if she had I believe she would be discussing the experience of singing those songs anew.

elle
04-02-2022, 01:52 PM
But that’s the thing. She can still sound great in a studio setting with as many takes as she needs, and with the help of whatever gadgetry aids her. I’m not a fan of using machines to smooth out vocals (or faces for that matter) but in Christine’s case the process works wonders. Her voice on BuckVie sounded warm and sweet. Like the Christine of yore.

agree! so i think for a number of reasons (including the fact she may not own right to original recordings anymore), this will have new vocals. which like you said, they were warm and nice on BuckVie.l

elle
04-02-2022, 01:54 PM
Agreed. It's a little heartbreaking to know that she can't do it live, though. Which is why I'd rather have a BuckVie II at this point, than another tour...

Okay, I'm lying. I want BOTH!

same - i would be happy with another BuckVie, and also with a solo Christine tour, and with both.

elle
04-02-2022, 02:02 PM
Seriously, that's why I'm not that excited. I don't think this is going to be much. :shocked:

i love you to the moon and back, you know i do, so much! but what is with this oh so negative attitude towards Christine's new endeavor all of the sudden?

you were grateful she's out there still and even went to Fakewood tour only to see her while you still could. you watched that monstrosity of a tour just to get to see her and meet her.

but now you have no interest whatsoever in her possible solo tour, and it's 4 years later and she's even older and you'll have even less possibilities to see her?

just trying to understand your logic here. we can't have all or nothing, so why not take the best we can get?? why poopoo it?

jbrownsjr
04-02-2022, 03:57 PM
i love you to the moon and back, you know i do, so much! but what is with this oh so negative attitude towards Christine's new endeavor all of the sudden?

you were grateful she's out there still and even went to Fakewood tour only to see her while you still could. you watched that monstrosity of a tour just to get to see her and meet her.

but now you have no interest whatsoever in her possible solo tour, and it's 4 years later and she's even older and you'll have even less possibilities to see her?

just trying to understand your logic here. we can't have all or nothing, so why not take the best we can get?? why poopoo it?

I'm trying to jinx this having original vocals. lol

You know I'm exccited, just keeping it in check so I don't get disappointed. :xoxo: Love you, too!!

aleuzzi
04-02-2022, 09:37 PM
I'm trying to jinx this having original vocals. lol

You know I'm exccited, just keeping it in check so I don't get disappointed. :xoxo: Love you, too!!

Yes, elle, John and I are trying very hard to minimize our expectations. For us, this means talking trash about this upcoming Christine project until we know for certain that the vocals are new. If they aren’t, we can console ourselves with “Well, we knew this would be the case…”

In other words, we’re protecting ourselves!

elle
04-02-2022, 10:13 PM
I'm trying to jinx this having original vocals. lol

You know I'm excited, just keeping it in check so I don't get disappointed. :xoxo: Love you, too!!

Yes, elle, John and I are trying very hard to minimize our expectations. For us, this means talking trash about this upcoming Christine project until we know for certain that the vocals are new. If they aren’t, we can console ourselves with “Well, we knew this would be the case…”

In other words, we’re protecting ourselves!

oh ok, i get that. :nod: :nod:

jbrownsjr
04-03-2022, 06:09 PM
Yes, elle, John and I are trying very hard to minimize our expectations. For us, this means talking trash about this upcoming Christine project until we know for certain that the vocals are new. If they aren’t, we can console ourselves with “Well, we knew this would be the case…”

In other words, we’re protecting ourselves!

There's comfort in melancholy.

aleuzzi
04-04-2022, 08:05 AM
There's comfort in melancholy.

We’d do it all over again…

jbrownsjr
04-04-2022, 08:48 AM
We’d do it all over again…

This time without drugs and not in bare feet all the time.

aleuzzi
04-05-2022, 10:37 PM
This time without drugs and not in bare feet all the time.

No questions asked

jbrownsjr
04-06-2022, 07:30 AM
No questions asked

Now I know I can't lose.