Never Forget Steve Denison (ChiliD)

[michelej1]

Susan Denison has informed me that Steve Denison passed away last week. You veterans know what an integral part of this board chiliD was. I believe some of you even met him before The Ledge, on newsgroups.

Susan reminded me that she and Steve met on The Ledge back in 1997, in a chat room, back when we used to have those. I remember him mentioning that as well.

No one knew Peter Green and Bob Welch's history like he did and he took us to school. He was funny, scathing and so knowledgeable. He told us a lot about FM and also about music in general and gave us firsthand tidbits too. Christine's laughter. Lindsey riding shotgun in a car.

Such sad news. As long as there is a Ledge, I will remember his contributions to it and will miss him, as I do wetcamelfood.

Michele

[jbrownsjr]

Awww man, I just wished him a Happy Birthday on FB.

He was truly. a great guy with so much FM knowledge. RIP.

[HomerMcvie]

Oh no. Yeah, his birthday was just a couple days ago. He'd been having health issues for the past few years. Rest in peace, Steve.

[Steviegirl]

Thank you very much for letting us know. I remember his posts well. May he rest in peace.

[BLY]

I always enjoyed reading his posts and his perspective on Fleetwood Mac. RIP, Steve.

[sleepless child]

I always enjoyed and respected his posts. I wondered why I hadn't seen him on here in awhile. RIP You will be missed.

[michelej1]

I remember him pointing out that Lindsey was writing ISA over and over again (like with Tango in the Night) and me, not knowing the notes and chords myself, would think, "They don't sound alike. I don't think they're the same song."

And he told us about Christine not wanting to work with Dave Mason and helped explain things that puzzled us about what the band was doing.

if he got into debates the exchanges could still be fun and informative, not ad hominem.

[aleuzzi]

Thank you, Michelle. I remember ChiliD vividly. His enthusiasm for FM from 1967-1974 was unmatched—and he schooled so many of us on specific facts he saw as essential to understanding that part of the band’s history. He was occasionally cantankerous and prone to arguments, but he was far more often a delight to read and someone with whom one could exchange spirited opinions. I salute you, ChiliD.

[michelej1]

Sometimes, he would say things in such a disdainful way, that I would be cracking up, even if I didn't agree with him or know enough to agree or disagree. Like when it came to Carlos Rios' guitar playing or Lindsey's abuse of guitars!

I think I first saw Chili on another FM site before I came to this one, FMLegacy. I remember you from there too, Tony.

[mitzo]

RIP Steve D.

[John Run]

His Pre-1975 knowledge of Fleetwood Mac was unparalleled. For me though it was our long conversations deconstructing and piecing back together Out of the Cradle which he adored at the apex of song-craft and production hierarchy.

02-23-2015, 02:03 AM
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I don't really consider "Out of the Cradle" to have individual tracks...to me it's one MASTERPIECE of work, beginning to end (like "Smile" or "Sgt Pepper").

[BombaySapphire3]

Sorry to hear it .I so enjoyed his insights. R.I.P. Steve.

[Mr Scarrott]

I remember struggling to put together a four-hour or so playlist that covered all the eras of the Mac in some kind of way that made sense of it all without doing it chronologically....I put out a request on the Ledge for suggestions and he put together a beautiful anthology of songs that flowed with mystery and elegance. I remember thinking before posting.."would ChiliD take the bait?". I was chuffed and honoured that he took the time to help out a very junior ledgie. Thank you Steve. I loved your posts, didn't always agree with them, but it mattered not a jot.

[SteveMacD]

RIP SteveD. Lots of great stories over the last 27 years, going back to the Fleetwood Mac newsgroup all the way through the Facebook Fleetwood Mac News page.

My favorite was the Eric Clapton show followed by how you were a Fleetwood Mac fan AND a Buckingham Nicks fan in 1973.

[aleuzzi]

My favorite was the Eric Clapton show followed by how you were a Fleetwood Mac fan AND a Buckingham Nicks fan in 1973.

And how he was in the audience for the band’s 1974 Don Kirshner performance....

[michelej1]

His Pre-1975 knowledge of Fleetwood Mac was unparalleled. For me though it was our long conversations deconstructing and piecing back together Out of the Cradle which he adored at the apex of song-craft and production hierarchy.

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I don't really consider "Out of the Cradle" to have individual tracks...to me it's one MASTERPIECE of work, beginning to end (like "Smile" or "Sgt Pepper").

Offline. I really like saying it like that.

[mylittledemon]

Susan Denison has informed me that Steve Denison passed away last week. You veterans know what an integral part of this board chiliD was. I believe some of you even met him before The Ledge, on newsgroups.

Susan reminded me that she and Steve met on The Ledge back in 1997, in a chat room, back when we used to have those. I remember him mentioning that as well.

No one knew Peter Green and Bob Welch's history like he did and he took us to school. He was funny, scathing and so knowledgeable. He told us a lot about FM and also about music in general and gave us firsthand tidbits too. Christine's laughter. Lindsey riding shotgun in a car.

Such sad news. As long as there is a Ledge, I will remember his contributions to it and will miss him, as I do wetcamelfood.

Michele

Oh nooooo! I knew he was in the hospital but I didn't know he had passed on. Steve was quick to school me in those early days of the pre-Stevie/Lindsey era of the band. We later connected on Facebook through our mutual love of guitar (I think he persuaded me to finally get that Model 1 I had been wanting, and he might've even had a Model 1 too)... he was a pleasure to chat with, and even when we disagreed we still had our love for the music in common. Godspeed, chiliD, godspeed. :(

[HomerMcvie]

Oh nooooo! I knew he was in the hospital but I didn't know he had passed on. Steve was quick to school me in those early days of the pre-Stevie/Lindsey era of the band. We later connected on Facebook through our mutual love of guitar (I think he persuaded me to finally get that Model 1 I had been wanting, and he might've even had a Model 1 too)... he was a pleasure to chat with, and even when we disagreed we still had our love for the music in common. Godspeed, chiliD, godspeed. :(

He did have a Model One.

[jmn3]

What sad news to hear. When I was a teenager developing an interest in Fleetwood Mac during The Dance era, folks like Steve (and many others who may or may not still be around!) were such an incredible source of information on the band and its many members at a time when the internet wasn't nearly as resourceful as it is today. The days of alt.music and The Ledge before I even made an account. If it wasn't for the in-depth knowledge shared in those spaces back then it's unlikely I would have ever gotten as thoroughly into the Mac or any of the member's music in my life.

Rest in peace, Steve

[Street_Dreamer]

Steve was a great guy. I owe my fandom of Billy to him because he was the guy who thoughtfully sent me his entire album collection to me on CD-R years ago. You all have already summarized how knowledgeable he was about the band better than I ever could. Thank you Steve. I owe a lot to you.

[David]

Thank you for posting about this, Michele. My memory is jumping around pretty wildly. Steve was affable, generous with time and knowledge, and a profound dog lover. He was also a musician’s musician — he knew the history of rock, blues, and other genres, he knew instruments, he knew biographies, and he knew catalogue like nobody else. Whenever you had a disagreement with Steve about which track appeared on which B-side, not only was he always right, but he let you have your pride and convinced you that you were “almost” right except for that pesky little aside that “you were probably thinking of instead.”

I started chatting with Chili (I always hated that nickname and told him so) in 1994. He was in Southern CA and I was in Northern CA, itching to move back down here. He bugged me over and over, “If you move down here, you need to join my band.” Sure enough, when I moved down here and got resettled, I had to pack up my Korg X5, stand, and 40-watt practice amp and haul everything over to his longtime friend’s garage every Thursday or Friday night for months to practice with one of his groups (he always had half a dozen groups going at once and, quite frankly, I don’t know where he found the time to hold his day job for the City of Long Beach). Those were great times, and he insisted (I did not want to) that the band practice “Dreams” and “Say You Love Me” and several other Mac songs. He was a great guitarist, natch, and he played these warhorses his way, and it rocked. He used to nag me, “You need to get rid of that practice amp and get a full size,” and he dragged me to Guitar Center and Sam Ash a bunch of times to shop. Now THAT was fun, hanging out in a music store with Steve as he test-drove guitars, keyboards, basses, and drum kits, and schooled all the employees there.

He invited me to his and Susie’s wedding at their home, along with some other ledgies I had never met in person, and we all had a lovely afternoon. They were sharing self-penned vows and cracking jokes. Those two didn’t worry about starchy solemnity. Relax and party!

Steve the dog lover (as am I) called me in tears when his Rottweiler, Rudy, died still somewhat young. Rudy was such a good boy and loved his dad.

Oddly enough, Steve and I never managed to see a Fleetwood show together — either one of us bowed out or was with another group of pals — but we sometimes tried to arrange to meet each other before or after a show. I had so many wonderful times with Steve that his death is shocking me. My condolences to his family, his pooch, his friends, and the FM fan community. He was one in a million.

[justcrazylove]

This is sad news. I first came across ChilliD on FMLegacy as an excitable 15 year old when I was absorbing and learning about this band I loved. He taught me to love the whole band and look beyond the obvious. My love of Greeny started with Steve schooling me on what i'm sure was the obnoxious opinion of a teenager. I often think about how much this board has changed and how the loss of voices likes Steves has been/is detrimental to the fan community. He knew what he was talking about, was fair, funny and open to others opinions.

What a dude!

[aleuzzi]

Thank you for posting about this, Michele. My memory is jumping around pretty wildly. Steve was affable, generous with time and knowledge, and a profound dog lover. He was also a musician’s musician — he knew the history of rock, blues, and other genres, he knew instruments, he knew biographies, and he knew catalogue like nobody else. Whenever you had a disagreement with Steve about which track appeared on which B-side, not only was he always right, but he let you have your pride and convinced you that you were “almost” right except for that pesky little aside that “you were probably thinking of instead.”

I started chatting with Chili (I always hated that nickname and told him so) in 1994. He was in Southern CA and I was in Northern CA, itching to move back down here. He bugged me over and over, “If you move down here, you need to join my band.” Sure enough, when I moved down here and got resettled, I had to pack up my Korg X5, stand, and 40-watt practice amp and haul everything over to his longtime friend’s garage every Thursday or Friday night for months to practice with one of his groups (he always had half a dozen groups going at once and, quite frankly, I don’t know where he found the time to hold his day job for the City of Long Beach). Those were great times, and he insisted (I did not want to) that the band practice “Dreams” and “Say You Love Me” and several other Mac songs. He was a great guitarist, natch, and he played these warhorses his way, and it rocked. He used to nag me, “You need to get rid of that practice amp and get a full size,” and he dragged me to Guitar Center and Sam Ash a bunch of times to shop. Now THAT was fun, hanging out in a music store with Steve as he test-drove guitars, keyboards, basses, and drum kits, and schooled all the employees there.

He invited me to his and Susie’s wedding at their home, along with some other ledgies I had never met in person, and we all had a lovely afternoon. They were sharing self-penned vows and cracking jokes. Those two didn’t worry about starchy solemnity. Relax and party!

Steve the dog lover (as am I) called me in tears when his Rottweiler, Rudy, died still somewhat young. Rudy was such a good boy and loved his dad.

Oddly enough, Steve and I never managed to see a Fleetwood show together — either one of us bowed out or was with another group of pals — but we sometimes tried to arrange to meet each other before or after a show. I had so many wonderful times with Steve that his death is shocking me. My condolences to his family, his pooch, his friends, and the FM fan community. He was one in a million.

This is quite a remembrance, David. Had no idea you had such extensive beyond-the-ledge contact with ChiliD—and that your way into FM was as musicians. That is special.

[jbrownsjr]

Thank you for posting about this, Michele. My memory is jumping around pretty wildly. Steve was affable, generous with time and knowledge, and a profound dog lover. He was also a musician’s musician — he knew the history of rock, blues, and other genres, he knew instruments, he knew biographies, and he knew catalogue like nobody else. Whenever you had a disagreement with Steve about which track appeared on which B-side, not only was he always right, but he let you have your pride and convinced you that you were “almost” right except for that pesky little aside that “you were probably thinking of instead.”

I started chatting with Chili (I always hated that nickname and told him so) in 1994. He was in Southern CA and I was in Northern CA, itching to move back down here. He bugged me over and over, “If you move down here, you need to join my band.” Sure enough, when I moved down here and got resettled, I had to pack up my Korg X5, stand, and 40-watt practice amp and haul everything over to his longtime friend’s garage every Thursday or Friday night for months to practice with one of his groups (he always had half a dozen groups going at once and, quite frankly, I don’t know where he found the time to hold his day job for the City of Long Beach). Those were great times, and he insisted (I did not want to) that the band practice “Dreams” and “Say You Love Me” and several other Mac songs. He was a great guitarist, natch, and he played these warhorses his way, and it rocked. He used to nag me, “You need to get rid of that practice amp and get a full size,” and he dragged me to Guitar Center and Sam Ash a bunch of times to shop. Now THAT was fun, hanging out in a music store with Steve as he test-drove guitars, keyboards, basses, and drum kits, and schooled all the employees there.

He invited me to his and Susie’s wedding at their home, along with some other ledgies I had never met in person, and we all had a lovely afternoon. They were sharing self-penned vows and cracking jokes. Those two didn’t worry about starchy solemnity. Relax and party!

Steve the dog lover (as am I) called me in tears when his Rottweiler, Rudy, died still somewhat young. Rudy was such a good boy and loved his dad.

Oddly enough, Steve and I never managed to see a Fleetwood show together — either one of us bowed out or was with another group of pals — but we sometimes tried to arrange to meet each other before or after a show. I had so many wonderful times with Steve that his death is shocking me. My condolences to his family, his pooch, his friends, and the FM fan community. He was one in a million.

Thank you for posting this. I'm really moved. So good to hear that you guys were this close and had several moments. Your memories help with the sadness. <3<3

[GypsySorcerer]

Sorry to hear this. I always appreciated Steve's insights and perspective, even if I disagreed sometimes. He will be missed. RIP, Steve.

[louielouie2000]

I’m so sorry to hear of Steve’s passing. No doubt he’s rubbing elbows with Peter Green, Bob Welch, and the like now. I too interacted with him on the old FM Legacy board prior to joining the Ledge 21 years ago. I credit solely Steve for challenging me to venture outside of the Rumours years and discovering my musical love of Bob Welch & much of the many solo ventures from the entirety of the FM crew. May you rock in peace, Steve. Your knowledge and passion shall be missed!

[Dodfather]

I'm so sorry to hear this. I haven't visited The Ledge for a couple of years after about 5 years of prolific posting and interacting with you all - hi everyone! Steve was one of the first to make me feel welcome on here and we had some great conversations through here and then Facebook - incredibly knowledgeable and generous with this. RIP.

[michelej1]

I started chatting with Chili (I always hated that nickname and told him so) in 1994. He was in Southern CA and I was in Northern CA, itching to move back down here. He bugged me over and over, “If you move down here, you need to join my band.” Sure enough, when I moved down here and got resettled, I had to pack up my Korg X5, stand, and 40-watt practice amp and haul everything over to his longtime friend’s garage every Thursday or Friday night for months to practice with one of his groups (he always had half a dozen groups going at once and, quite frankly, I don’t know where he found the time to hold his day job for the City of Long Beach). Those were great times, and he insisted (I did not want to) that the band practice “Dreams” and “Say You Love Me” and several other Mac songs. He was a great guitarist, natch, and he played these warhorses his way, and it rocked. He used to nag me, “You need to get rid of that practice amp and get a full size,” and he dragged me to Guitar Center and Sam Ash a bunch of times to shop. Now THAT was fun, hanging out in a music store with Steve as he test-drove guitars, keyboards, basses, and drum kits, and schooled all the employees there.

He invited me to his and Susie’s wedding at their home, along with some other ledgies I had never met in person, and we all had a lovely afternoon. They were sharing self-penned vows and cracking jokes. Those two didn’t worry about starchy solemnity. Relax and party!

Steve the dog lover (as am I) called me in tears when his Rottweiler, Rudy, died still somewhat young. Rudy was such a good boy and loved his dad.

Oddly enough, Steve and I never managed to see a Fleetwood show together — either one of us bowed out or was with another group of pals — but we sometimes tried to arrange to meet each other before or after a show. I had so many wonderful times with Steve that his death is shocking me. My condolences to his family, his pooch, his friends, and the FM fan community. He was one in a million.

What wonderful memories, David. Exhilarating. Exhausting. Your descriptions evoke both the man and his era. And how could I forget his love of dogs. He had one in his avatar and spoke of them often.

Thank you for telling us more about the man behind the posts.

[vivfox]

Very sad news of a Ledgie Icon. RIP :angel:

[jbrownsjr]

It's remarkable how long we've all been here. Nice to see folks pop out of the wood work to offer some words. :angel:

[aleuzzi]

It's remarkable how long we've all been here. Nice to see folks pop out of the wood work to offer some words. :angel:

I still want to know where Macfan57 went. I miss her.

[HomerMcvie]

I still want to know where Macfan57 went. I miss her.

I used to have her address, but haven't come across it for quite some time. There are three people with her name on the Facebooks, but none of them are in Pennsylvania, where she lived.

She bought a dress that Christine had worn on stage, and had it in a glass case in her house. She bought it on eBay, if I remember correctly, from Christine's assistant, (also named Chris).

[jbrownsjr]

I used to have her address, but haven't come across it for quite some time. There are three people with her name on the Facebooks, but none of them are in Pennsylvania, where she lived.

She bought a dress that Christine had worn on stage, and had it in a glass case in her house. She bought it on eBay, if I remember correctly, from Christine's assistant, (also named Chris).

Chris Gable Polis.. or something like that.

[Macfan4life]

I used to have her address, but haven't come across it for quite some time. There are three people with her name on the Facebooks, but none of them are in Pennsylvania, where she lived.

She bought a dress that Christine had worn on stage, and had it in a glass case in her house. She bought it on eBay, if I remember correctly, from Christine's assistant, (also named Chris).
Those were the days you could get amazing things on Ebay cheap. I told you about the $20 Christine McVie cocktail napkin that I regret not buying in 2000 :(

[HomerMcvie]

Chris Gable Polis.. or something like that.

You're close, but not quite. I'm FB friends with her, so I'd rather not put her name here. Ask me on the Facebooks messenger thingamabobs if you really want to know.

[HomerMcvie]

Those were the days you could get amazing things on Ebay cheap. I told you about the $20 Christine McVie cocktail napkin that I regret not buying in 2000 :(

Remember when eBay used to shut down on Thursday nights? Every Thursday night, it was "closed for maintenance".

Yeah, I remember your napkin!:lol:

John Boy's right, most of us have been here for a LONG time now. I was lurking here for a couple of years before I joined. People seemed so mean here...I was afraid I couldn't take the heat!:wavey:

[jbrownsjr]

You're close, but not quite. I'm FB friends with her, so I'd rather not put her name here. Ask me on the Facebooks messenger thingamabobs if you really want to know.

OMG I was close! missed it by " " much!!

[HomerMcvie]

OMG I was close! missed it by " " much!!

You were very close. My memory is very photographic. Tell it to me, and I'll never remember it. If I see it written, it's often glued in there for eternity.

[SteveMacD]

I remember when Marty was talking about trying out a message board.

I also remember and miss the days of The Penguin and NicksFix jointly hosting chatrooms.

[jbrownsjr]

I remember when Marty was talking about trying out a message board.

I also remember and miss the days of The Penguin and NicksFix jointly hosting chatrooms.

Lord!! The NicksFix! I forgot about that. :laugh:

[David]

I remember when Marty was talking about trying out a message board.He told me once that he “worked on you” to join. He asked me to join his virtual Benifols at some point, but I was so naive about web technology at that point that I didn’t appreciate what he was trying to do. He cajoled me into joining his early Ledge forum. He may have tagged Jeff Kenney around that time, as well. The Ledge made more “sense” to me, so I split time between newsgroups and that. But then he later banned me. :rolleyes:

I also remember and miss the days of The Penguin and NicksFix jointly hosting chatrooms.I was banned there, too, but it was all for the best because I really couldn’t stomach the little children there every Sunday afternoon, reminiscing about their gymnastics competitions and Girl Scout cookie drives. I was told I was evil when I chose a chat nick based on one of the villainesses in James Bond Goldfinger. That was the Nicks Fix head of state who said that — I must have been his Kerensky or his Trotsky because he just never had a nice word to say to me! :laugh:

[Neal]

Chili dm'd me links to some of my first bootlegs back on the original Ledge ('98-'99 I wanna say?) and I still have those files on an old laptop.

Tragic news indeed... :(

[estranged4life]

to a legendary Ledgie!!! RIP Steve.

[SteveMacD]

He told me once that he “worked on you” to join. He asked me to join his virtual Benifols at some point
LOL! I was their “neighbor” with my virtual Mariposa De Oro! :laugh:

That was the Nicks Fix head of state who said that
I very vividly remember when that guy read something that referenced “Songbird” and him saying that he’d never heard that title and thought the author probably meant “Nightbird.” Dumbfounded doesn’t do what I was thinking justice! And that was BEFORE I got into drinking!

[aleuzzi]

I very vividly remember when that guy read something that referenced “Songbird” and him saying that he’d never heard that title and thought the author probably meant “Nightbird.” Dumbfounded doesn’t do what I was thinking justice! And that was BEFORE I got into drinking!

I wear my boots all summer long...like never before.

[jbrownsjr]

I wear my boots all summer long...like never before.

They'll be no more cryin', cuz some circles... around my eyes.

[aleuzzi]

They'll be no more cryin', cuz some circles... around my eyes.

And I wish you all their capes pulled around them tight

[jbrownsjr]

And I wish you all their capes pulled around them tight

And the songbirds will be singing for the ones that sing at night.

[aleuzzi]

And the songbirds will be singing for the ones that sing at night.

And I wish you all the careless makeup in the world

[jbrownsjr]

And I wish you all the careless makeup in the world

AND WHEN I CALL YOU gently, the sun will be shining.

[The Catdancer]

Susan Denison has informed me that Steve Denison passed away last week. You veterans know what an integral part of this board chiliD was. I believe some of you even met him before The Ledge, on newsgroups.

Susan reminded me that she and Steve met on The Ledge back in 1997, in a chat room, back when we used to have those. I remember him mentioning that as well.

No one knew Peter Green and Bob Welch's history like he did and he took us to school. He was funny, scathing and so knowledgeable. He told us a lot about FM and also about music in general and gave us firsthand tidbits too. Christine's laughter. Lindsey riding shotgun in a car.

Such sad news. As long as there is a Ledge, I will remember his contributions to it and will miss him, as I do wetcamelfood.

Michele

I am so sorry to hear this. I loved reading his posts.

Rock on, Steve. May you RIP :angel:

[chriskisn]

Susan Denison has informed me that Steve Denison passed away last week. You veterans know what an integral part of this board chiliD was. I believe some of you even met him before The Ledge, on newsgroups.

Susan reminded me that she and Steve met on The Ledge back in 1997, in a chat room, back when we used to have those. I remember him mentioning that as well.

No one knew Peter Green and Bob Welch's history like he did and he took us to school. He was funny, scathing and so knowledgeable. He told us a lot about FM and also about music in general and gave us firsthand tidbits too. Christine's laughter. Lindsey riding shotgun in a car.

Such sad news. As long as there is a Ledge, I will remember his contributions to it and will miss him, as I do wetcamelfood.

Michele

I don't log in very often these days, but sad to hear about Steve, he's really been around for so long. I first lurked around the Ledge back in '93 aged about 19 I think, so its like he's always been around. RIP.

[jbrownsjr]

I don't log in very often these days, but sad to hear about Steve, he's really been around for so long. I first lurked around the Ledge back in '93 aged about 19 I think, so its like he's always been around. RIP.

It's been a while! Good to see you Chriskisn.

[bombaysaffires]

And I wish you all the careless makeup in the world

LOVE this:lol:

[michelej1]

I don't log in very often these days, but sad to hear about Steve, he's really been around for so long. I first lurked around the Ledge back in '93 aged about 19 I think, so its like he's always been around. RIP.

And I remember the laughs you gave me when you relayed some of your wife’s comments to us. She was not a fan in the most humorous of ways.

[nodmod]

so sorry to read this news, rest in peace Steve.

[chriskisn]

And I remember the laughs you gave me when you relayed some of your wife’s comments to us. She was not a fan in the most humorous of ways.

Nothing has changed...:lol:

[TrueFaith77]

Devastating news. He was one of the reasons to come to the Ledge. Always worth reading. Always learned something. He loved the band and, as he saw it, championed its essence.