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Macfan4life
01-16-2022, 01:51 PM
We do lots of favorite lists so which are your least favorite Stevie Mac songs. No solo stuff (that list would be too long :lol:)

5. Silver Girl - I despise Stevie's Sheryl Crow era

4. Second Time - the vocal is not great. Its an ok song and a quick song to slap on BTM. Not much time put into it.

3. Affairs of the Heart - you can hear the klonopin in her voice. The song is so basic and not her best in the lyrics department either

2. Welcome To The Room Sara - Have I been here before? DeJa'Vu right? The not so secret meaning is cool but totally flops as a song. You can tell Lindsey did not spend that much time polishing this flop.

1. When I see you again - whatsa matter baby, baby baby baby. This song you can peal back and discover how it was not finished and Lindsey found a way to do something with it. He put his vocal at the end to give the song something and try and make it long enough for an album. If you remove Lindsey's part, it would be a joke of a song.

bwboy
01-16-2022, 02:15 PM
1. When I see you again - whatsa matter baby, baby baby baby. This song you can peal back and discover how it was not finished and Lindsey found a way to do something with it. He put his vocal at the end to give the song something and try and make it long enough for an album. If you remove Lindsey's part, it would be a joke of a song.

I remember an interview where Stevie said she had to beg Lindsey to add his vocal to the end of that song because he so adamantly didn’t want to.

I agree this is her worst FM song. I guess Lindsey can’t make all of her songs sound good.

On Ice
01-16-2022, 02:23 PM
Not much to add to this list, they're all pretty awful. I'm surprised these made it onto albums, especially Tango in the Night where (at least) 1/2 the album was great.

When I see You Again though I think can take the honours of surpassing Dave Walker's contributions to Penguin as Fleetwood Mac's worst song. With the exception of Lindsey's vocal at the end, everything is wrong about the song, but her singing is horrible.

I'm going to add one that is second worst only to this piece of dreck is Paper Doll, omg what we're they thinking- the draw out of fascinated by somebody else, I just can't listen too, it's a stupid, stupid song.

Welcome to the Room, Sara- can't be saved by the "trying to be cool" beat and vibe it's just too awful for that to save it and it is a terrible fit for the album.

Silver Girl should not have been on Say You Will, her other songs on the album are not bad albeit with some odd production and not so great vocals in spots.

Second Time- there is a decent song in there somewhere, but alas not to be found, and entirely forgettable.

Jondalar
01-16-2022, 03:43 PM
1. The Second Time
2. Paper Doll
3. Welcome to the Room... Sara
4. Silver Girl
5. Fireflies, Goodbye Baby, Freedom, No Questions Asked = 4 way tie of grossness.

HomerMcvie
01-16-2022, 03:48 PM
1. The Second Time
2. Paper Doll
3. Welcome to the Room... Sara
4. Silver Girl
5. Fireflies, Goodbye Baby, Freedom, No Questions Asked = 4 way tie of grossness.

I love Fireflies, and like Paper Doll, too.

bwboy
01-16-2022, 05:59 PM
Silver Girl
Sweet Girl
Gold Dust Woman
When I See You Again
Everybody Finds Out

jbrownsjr
01-16-2022, 07:07 PM
Affairs of the Heart
Silver Girl
Second Time
Freedom
No Questions Asked

blinker12
01-16-2022, 08:05 PM
You guys nailed it. If we’re talking about discarded tracks, I always thought “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You” was pretty atrocious too. Another Tango-era nadir!

Macfan4life
01-16-2022, 08:28 PM
You guys nailed it. If we’re talking about discarded tracks, I always thought “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You” was pretty atrocious too. Another Tango-era nadir!
I think that song is better than When I see you again and Welcome to the room sara. Its a very arrogant song so I can see Lindsey not wanting to touch it with a 10 foot pole. However it would have spiced up Tango In The Night for sure compared to her other "contributions."

On Ice
01-16-2022, 09:18 PM
A cursory view of Stevie's vault could've redeemed her a little bit for Tango, Running Through the Garden may have sounded interesting with an added Tango vibe for instance. Even Ooh My Love, was given a little attention, and it turned out great on TOSOM. What Has Rock and Roll was not a good song, but better than the two that made it.

vivfox
01-17-2022, 12:09 PM
Gold Dust Woman

You should be banished from Stevie Nicks fandom for including GDW in your hate list.:lol:

bwboy
01-17-2022, 01:09 PM
You should be banished from Stevie Nicks fandom for including GDW in your hate list.:lol:

*gulp* what can I say, I’ve never cared for the song, unless I’m watching it live in person. But to hear it on my stereo or in the car- absolutely not!

Macfan4life
01-17-2022, 01:51 PM
You should be banished from Stevie Nicks fandom for including GDW in your hate list.:lol:
That raised my eyebrows too. I think its one of her best songs. I love the lyrics and the chorus is probably her best. I love when they spoke to Lindsey on the 20th anniversary of Rumours and they isolated Stevie's screaming. I think even he said they were overly creative on the song. At least he is consistent because Everybody Finds Out is also another favorite lol.

To each their own though ;)

mitzo
01-17-2022, 02:26 PM
I Don't Want to Know
Welcome to the Room Sara
Affairs of the Heart
Freedom (tied)
Silver Girl

Honourable mention to Paper Doll and Angel (a great song with a ****ty arrangement/production)

WISYA and The Second Time get passes from me because I always love a Stevie ballad no matter what.

bwboy
01-17-2022, 02:38 PM
I Don't Want to Know

:shocked:

Mitzo, I Don’t Want to Know is pop perfection to my ears! Short and sweet, with Lindsey and Stevie harmonizing so beautifully.

Macfan4life
01-17-2022, 03:32 PM
:shocked:

Mitzo, I Don’t Want to Know is pop perfection to my ears! Short and sweet, with Lindsey and Stevie harmonizing so beautifully.
Gold Dust Woman is better :lol:

moon
01-17-2022, 04:01 PM
I guess this one is easier than the others...

- Storms. Once again, no, dear people. No!
- Beautiful Child. I find it very boring...
- The Second Time. Man, and this is incredibly boring!!
- When I See You Again. Same.
- Running Through The Garden. It doesn't create nothing special on me...

My special mention goes to:
- Landslide (from Live)

mitzo
01-17-2022, 05:36 PM
I guess this one is easier than the others...

- Storms. Once again, no, dear people. No!
- Beautiful Child. I find it very boring...
- The Second Time. Man, and this is incredibly boring!!
- When I See You Again. Same.
- Running Through The Garden. It doesn't create nothing special on me...

My special mention goes to:
- Landslide (from Live)

Oh, my god...

mitzo
01-17-2022, 05:37 PM
Gold Dust Woman is better :lol:

IDWK is too frothy and throwaway, Stevie has to be darker than that. The song is too straightforward and linear for me.

bwboy
01-17-2022, 06:04 PM
Gold Dust Woman is better :lol:

SNAP!

:thumbsup:

bwboy
01-17-2022, 06:06 PM
I guess this one is easier than the others...

- Storms. Once again, no, dear people. No!
- Beautiful Child. I find it very boring...
- The Second Time. Man, and this is incredibly boring!!
- When I See You Again. Same.
- Running Through The Garden. It doesn't create nothing special on me...

My special mention goes to:
- Landslide (from Live)

Oh my god, indeed! Storms? Beautiful Child? Landslide? But not When I See You Again?

mitzo
01-17-2022, 07:00 PM
Oh my god, indeed! Storms? Beautiful Child? Landslide? But not When I See You Again?

Leave all 4 of those alone!

jbrownsjr
01-17-2022, 07:02 PM
I guess this one is easier than the others...

- Storms. Once again, no, dear people. No!
- Beautiful Child. I find it very boring...
- The Second Time. Man, and this is incredibly boring!!
- When I See You Again. Same.
- Running Through The Garden. It doesn't create nothing special on me...

My special mention goes to:
- Landslide (from Live)

Most Landslide's live are horrible as she tends to bellow a beautiful ballad.

aleuzzi
01-17-2022, 07:04 PM
Paper Doll
No Questions Asked
Welcome to the Room…Sara
When I See You Again
Silver Girl

Honorable Mentions:
Goodbye Baby
The Second Time

HomerMcvie
01-17-2022, 11:34 PM
:shocked:

Mitzo, I Don’t Want to Know is pop perfection to my ears! Short and sweet, with Lindsey and Stevie harmonizing so beautifully.

For the record, you and I aren't supposed to agree on anything! :mad:

I love IDWK, and always have. It's the very first guitar solo I learned to play.

It's ridiculous that it's never been a staple of their set.

bwboy
01-18-2022, 06:45 AM
For the record, you and I aren't supposed to agree on anything! :mad:

I love IDWK, and always have. It's the very first guitar solo I learned to play.

It's ridiculous that it's never been a staple of their set.

LOL that’s the power of Fleetwood Mac, bringing people together… in perfect harmony, just like the old Coke commercial! That is very cool that you learned the guitar solo for IDWTK- that was also the first song I learned to play tambourine to.

Since the song is on Rumours, it’s virtually as well known as most of their hits, so it would go over really well with the audience, I think. Kind of like a deep cut that everyone knows.

HomerMcvie
01-18-2022, 12:10 PM
LOL that’s the power of Fleetwood Mac, bringing people together… in perfect harmony, just like the old Coke commercial! That is very cool that you learned the guitar solo for IDWTK- that was also the first song I learned to play tambourine to.

Since the song is on Rumours, it’s virtually as well known as most of their hits, so it would go over really well with the audience, I think. Kind of like a deep cut that everyone knows.

But Stevie doesn't like it, so it doesn't matter what we want.

sleepless child
01-18-2022, 02:42 PM
The song Say You Will, I just hate. Can't stand it. I know everyone hates Silver Girl, but I really like it. For some reason Say you Will is the only Stevie song, I can't find anything good about.

HomerMcvie
01-18-2022, 03:01 PM
The song Say You Will, I just hate. Can't stand it. I know everyone hates Silver Girl, but I really like it. For some reason Say you Will is the only Stevie song, I can't find anything good about.

I hate it too. Especially the children singing at the end.

Macfan4life
01-18-2022, 03:08 PM
I hate it too. Especially the children singing at the end.
At least give me time to change your mind
that always seems to heal the wounds
if I can get you around to Come

David
01-18-2022, 03:37 PM
Don’t forget “Affairs of the Heart.” Stupid is as stupid does — and she does it.

HomerMcvie
01-18-2022, 03:42 PM
At least give me time to change your mind
that always seems to heal the wounds
if I can get you around to Come

Never gonna happen. It's a tacky, trashy song subject to boot.

Ooh, senior citizen gonna make me come. :lol:

mitzo
01-18-2022, 04:10 PM
I hate it too. Especially the children singing at the end.

The song is great but the absolutely leaden basso profundo vocals really diminish it.

Macfan4life
01-18-2022, 06:20 PM
Never gonna happen. It's a tacky, trashy song subject to boot.

Ooh, senior citizen gonna make me come. :lol:
your older than me :lol:

jbrownsjr
01-18-2022, 06:44 PM
The song Say You Will, I just hate. Can't stand it. I know everyone hates Silver Girl, but I really like it. For some reason Say you Will is the only Stevie song, I can't find anything good about.

It's the worst title track ever.

mitzo
01-18-2022, 06:46 PM
It's the worst title track ever.

No, that is a tie between Tusk and Tango in the Night, sorry.

HomerMcvie
01-18-2022, 11:17 PM
your older than me :lol:

That's YOU'RE, Einstein. :p

How do you know I'm older than you? Just because I've been here longer?

bombaysaffires
01-19-2022, 01:01 AM
Affairs of the Heart

This one is sorta catchy if you don't pay too close attention to the inane lyrics:shrug:

If we’re talking about discarded tracks, I always thought “What Has Rock and Roll Ever Done For You” was pretty atrocious too. Another Tango-era nadir!
TOTALLY agree, musically it sucks and lyrically it's a coked-up sh&t show

WISYA and The Second Time get passes from me because I always love a Stevie ballad no matter what.
I'm kinda sorta with ya on this one...


So:
No Questions Asked
Freedom
Welcome to the Room Sara. (Love the story it's trying to tell, hate the arrangment)
Paper Doll (I'm mixed on this one. I used to like it sorta kinda but now...meh. Them trying to mimic Lindsey's quirky production and failing).
When I See You Again (wasssamatta baby just kills it)

bwboy
01-19-2022, 06:51 AM
Paper Doll (I'm mixed on this one. I used to like it sorta kinda but now...meh. Them trying to mimic Lindsey's quirky production and failing).

Paper Doll was recorded by the post-Rumours FM for their greatest hits album but dropped in lieu of No Questions Asked; for the Chain boxset, Mick gave the song to Lindsey, who added production to it. So what you’re hearing is Lindsey’s production of the song… and failing.

Macfan4life
01-19-2022, 07:36 AM
I know its a quirky song but I like No Questions Asked. Stevie really sings this song. The music is fairly basic though. But I really like the sound of the song.
About 25 years ago I was in a strip club in Ft Lauderdale and it was early and they had a juke box. Sure enough they had the FM Greatest hits CD in it. I played No Questions Asked and you have no idea of the amount of people that got up and looked at the box, what song was playing. Clearly it peaked interest like what Stevie/Mac song is this? I took it as a positive thing but maybe it was negative like "who the hell put this crap on"
:lol:
Maybe its so bad its good but I love the way she sings "you feel completely d i f f e r e nt" LMAO

michelej1
01-19-2022, 06:49 PM
Paper Doll is excellent. TYVM

Ok, RTTG and Sad Girl, Sweet Girl, Silver Girl, Super Girl.

Otherwise, I think Stevie's worst are pretty much universally agreed upon.

Welcome to the room
The Second Time

bwboy
01-19-2022, 07:43 PM
I know its a quirky song but I like No Questions Asked. Stevie really sings this song. The music is fairly basic though. But I really like the sound of the song.
About 25 years ago I was in a strip club in Ft Lauderdale and it was early and they had a juke box. Sure enough they had the FM Greatest hits CD in it. I played No Questions Asked and you have no idea of the amount of people that got up and looked at the box, what song was playing. Clearly it peaked interest like what Stevie/Mac song is this? I took it as a positive thing but maybe it was negative like "who the hell put this crap on"
:lol:
Maybe its so bad its good but I love the way she sings "you feel completely d i f f e r e nt" LMAO

A strip club? :shocked:

No Questions Asked is a good song. Very unusual with great vocals and that incredible guitar by Rick Vito. It’s an intriguing song and different from anything Stevie has ever done with Fleetwood Mac.

Macfan4life
01-20-2022, 07:20 AM
A strip club? :shocked:

No Questions Asked is a good song. Very unusual with great vocals and that incredible guitar by Rick Vito. It’s an intriguing song and different from anything Stevie has ever done with Fleetwood Mac.
No questions asked is better than any of her songs on BTM. After hearing the 2 new songs on the Greatest Hits album, I was really excited for BTM. I thought Chris's soft rock song was excellent and I liked Stevie's more rock song.
I really thought these songs were going to be hits at the time because I thought the whole world was curious to know what the new Mac sounded like. Clearly no one cared :(
Except me of course ;)

bwboy
01-20-2022, 09:39 AM
About 25 years ago I was in a strip club in Ft Lauderdale and it was early and they had a juke box. Sure enough they had the FM Greatest hits CD in it.
Maybe its so bad its good but I love the way she sings "you feel completely d i f f e r e nt" LMAO

Again, I think the strip club comment needs elaboration :laugh::laugh:

And I thought the lyric was “indifferent-“ guess I’ll have to listen again to check. It wouldn’t be the first time I butchered the lyrics of a FM song.

HomerMcvie
01-20-2022, 11:18 AM
Again, I think the strip club comment needs elaboration :laugh::laugh:

And I thought the lyric was “indifferent-“ guess I’ll have to listen again to check. It wouldn’t be the first time I butchered the lyrics of a FM song.

You're a little obsessed with the strip club.

Blow and hoes.... who hasn't been there? :lol:

Macfan4life
01-20-2022, 01:06 PM
Again, I think the strip club comment needs elaboration :laugh::laugh:

And I thought the lyric was “indifferent-“ guess I’ll have to listen again to check. It wouldn’t be the first time I butchered the lyrics of a FM song.
The strip club was just a small and very seedy and dirty club. One side was a pool hall and the other was the strip club. No Questions Asked got lots of interest with people going to the juke box to see exactly what song this was.

You caught me in my Blue Lamp shawl when I was channeling my inner Stevie. I reserve the right to change a word or lyric or two. It is indifferent but I said different. In Stevie world, it means the same thing.
Most important, would you ever say that to Bob Dylan?

SteveMacD
01-20-2022, 01:21 PM
When I See You Again
Paper Doll
The Second Time
Illume
Not Make Believe

mitzo
01-20-2022, 02:00 PM
When I See You Again
Paper Doll
The Second Time
Illume
Not Make Believe

I know you are either joking or being deliberately provocative by including Illume here.

I forgot to put Not Make Believe at the top of my own list, though. It is probably the biggest clunker ever.

Jondalar
01-20-2022, 03:00 PM
I forgot to add "I Don't Care", for it's juvenile and uninteresting lyrics. Great music, horrible song.

SteveMacD
01-20-2022, 03:38 PM
I know you are either joking or being deliberately provocative by including Illume here.

Genuinely hate the song.

I know she was trying to say something profound and meaningful, but it’s just a lot of rambling. It also does nothing for me musically. It’s just kind of there, and I really don’t like her voice on it.

I gave it two or three listens and realized it was never going to connect.

bwboy
01-20-2022, 04:15 PM
The strip club was just a small and very seedy and dirty club. One side was a pool hall and the other was the strip club. No Questions Asked got lots of interest with people going to the juke box to see exactly what song this was.

You caught me in my Blue Lamp shawl when I was channeling my inner Stevie. I reserve the right to change a word or lyric or two. It is indifferent but I said different. In Stevie world, it means the same thing.
Most important, would you ever say that to Bob Dylan?

What was the name of the club- No Questions Asked? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

As for Bob Dylan; I would and I have. Twice!

bwboy
01-20-2022, 05:59 PM
You're a little obsessed with the strip club.

Blow and hoes.... who hasn't been there? :lol:

I have to live vicariously through you guys :]

Jondalar
01-20-2022, 06:50 PM
Genuinely hate the song.

I know she was trying to say something profound and meaningful, but it’s just a lot of rambling. It also does nothing for me musically. It’s just kind of there, and I really don’t like her voice on it.

I gave it two or three listens and realized it was never going to connect.

Illume is another example of horrible lyrics by Stevie, great production by Lindsey. I love the production, but just like Thrown Down, I can't listen to it because the horrible lyrics. I keep thinking of what could of been. She is a lazy writer.

jwd
01-20-2022, 07:13 PM
Affairs of the Heart
When I See You Again
Say You Will
Running Through the Garden
No Questions Asked

mitzo
01-20-2022, 09:33 PM
Illume is another example of horrible lyrics by Stevie, great production by Lindsey. I love the production, but just like Thrown Down, I can't listen to it because the horrible lyrics. I keep thinking of what could of been. She is a lazy writer.

It is one of those reveries like Sorcerer or Nightbird, not meant to make much linear sense. I love its dark drama and can almost see the burning towers and the chaos and fear of 9/11 in it. To each his own, I guess.

UnwindedDreams
01-20-2022, 09:44 PM
It is one of those reveries like Sorcerer or Nightbird, not meant to make much linear sense. I love its dark drama and can almost see the burning towers and the chaos and fear of 9/11 in it. To each his own, I guess.
It's my least favorite Stevie song on SYW. But oddly, I don't think it's as dark as it could be.

I consider Smile At You on SYW darker than Illume.

mitzo
01-20-2022, 10:33 PM
It's my least favorite Stevie song on SYW. But oddly, I don't think it's as dark as it could be.

I consider Smile At You on SYW darker than Illume.

Smile at You is epic on SYW. But I see Illume as epic too, it is probably my fave on the album, was on repeat for months, hooked me instantly.

michelej1
01-21-2022, 01:46 AM
I forgot to add "I Don't Care", for it's juvenile and uninteresting lyrics. Great music, horrible song.

We're supposed to be naming Mac songs. If we were including non-Mac, you better believe I would put Cheaper Than Free in there. It's just horrible. The lyrics are juvenile, but I can't call them uninteresting, because they're so bad you want to swerve off the road and into a tree.

HomerMcvie
01-21-2022, 02:55 AM
We're supposed to be naming Mac songs. If we were including non-Mac, you better believe I would put Cheaper Than Free in there. It's just horrible. The lyrics are juvenile, but I can't call them uninteresting, because they're so bad you want to swerve off the road and into a tree.

I was trying so hard not to comment, but your last sentence has me rolling with laughter! :laugh:

The ultimate review! :xoxo:

Villavic
01-22-2022, 08:36 AM
No Questions Asked
The Second Time
Freedom
When I See You Again
Paper Doll

michelej1
01-22-2022, 06:05 PM
I was trying so hard not to comment, but your last sentence has me rolling with laughter! :laugh:

The ultimate review! :xoxo:

What's more exciting than high fashion? High passion.

bombaysaffires
01-22-2022, 08:19 PM
What's more exciting than high fashion? High passion.

I gotta go with:

what's brighter than a smile? You, child. You, child.

:distress: