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bombaysaffires
08-18-2021, 11:30 PM
We all know Stevie likes to re-write history, and she's at it again. And she's recently been thinking about capturing her memories on tape, and it would take 4 different books to capture her life.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/18/stevie-nicks-saved-herself-from-addiction-i-survived-my-cocaine/

Stevie Nicks says she ‘saved’ herself from addiction: ‘I survived my cocaine’
By Samantha Ibrahim
August 18, 2021 7:18pm Updated

Sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll is a mantra Stevie Nicks used to live by — like many other musicians in the industry — but no longer.

The iconic singer opened up to Tim McGraw on his Apple Music Country show “Beyond the Influence Radio” on Wednesday about how she “saved” herself from her addiction issues.

Nicks, 73, said if she were to ever share her life story with fans, the Fleetwood Mac frontwoman would like to avoid sharing her experiences with drugs.

“I managed to save myself. I got through some pretty scary moments, but I saved me, nobody else saved me,” she told the country singer. “I survived me. I survived my cocaine. I survived by myself.”

“I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me. I did it and that’s like with my whole life,” she continued. “So I would dance over those parts just to give the wisdom out to people.”

Nicks added that the concept of publishing her life story has taken her years to think about. If she ever did, she added, it would need to be chopped up into four different books.

“I think that what I would do first, and only lately have I thought this, I might sit down at some point across the kitchen table with some of my girlfriends who have been there for a lot of it and put on a tape recorder and just start talking from the very beginning,” she said.

In 1981, Nicks embarked on a solo career after joining Fleetwood Mac in 1975. “Fleetwood Mac was my team,” she explained to McGraw. “I had them and I felt safe. So I felt like, ‘I’m not trying to break up this band, I’m just trying to actually keep this band together.’ Because what’s going to keep this band together is me being able to make the odd solo album here and there when you guys are doing other things.”

Back in October, the “Edge of Seventeen” crooner told the Associated Press that the pandemic forced her to be homebound when she prefers to be singing live on the road.

“This pandemic is more than just a pandemic for me. This is stealing what I consider to be my last youthful years,” Nicks told the AP. “I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make. With every day that goes by, it’s like taking this time away from me. That I think is the hardest thing for me.”

“I have a lot of friends that are 60 and they’re going, ‘Oh I’m so old, I’m 60.’ I’m like, ‘You know what, the violins of the world are playing for you. You’re going to really appreciate 60 when you turn 72,’” she continued at the time. “I don’t feel like the whole world is really getting behind getting this to go away. I feel like people are just thinking it really is just magically going away. All it takes is a few people that don’t wear a mask to spread. Just let one person catch it from you and there it goes — it’s like the never-ending story. That worries me because I’m going, ‘Will it really be gone by the end of 2021?'”

Jondalar
08-19-2021, 02:23 AM
We all know Stevie likes to re-write history, and she's at it again. And she's recently been thinking about capturing her memories on tape, and it would take 4 different books to capture her life.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/18/stevie-nicks-saved-herself-from-addiction-i-survived-my-cocaine/

Stevie Nicks says she ‘saved’ herself from addiction: ‘I survived my cocaine’
By Samantha Ibrahim
August 18, 2021 7:18pm Updated

Sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll is a mantra Stevie Nicks used to live by — like many other musicians in the industry — but no longer.

The iconic singer opened up to Tim McGraw on his Apple Music Country show “Beyond the Influence Radio” on Wednesday about how she “saved” herself from her addiction issues.

Nicks, 73, said if she were to ever share her life story with fans, the Fleetwood Mac frontwoman would like to avoid sharing her experiences with drugs.

“I managed to save myself. I got through some pretty scary moments, but I saved me, nobody else saved me,” she told the country singer. “I survived me. I survived my cocaine. I survived by myself.”

“I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me. I did it and that’s like with my whole life,” she continued. “So I would dance over those parts just to give the wisdom out to people.”

Nicks added that the concept of publishing her life story has taken her years to think about. If she ever did, she added, it would need to be chopped up into four different books.

“I think that what I would do first, and only lately have I thought this, I might sit down at some point across the kitchen table with some of my girlfriends who have been there for a lot of it and put on a tape recorder and just start talking from the very beginning,” she said.

In 1981, Nicks embarked on a solo career after joining Fleetwood Mac in 1975. “Fleetwood Mac was my team,” she explained to McGraw. “I had them and I felt safe. So I felt like, ‘I’m not trying to break up this band, I’m just trying to actually keep this band together.’ Because what’s going to keep this band together is me being able to make the odd solo album here and there when you guys are doing other things.”

Back in October, the “Edge of Seventeen” crooner told the Associated Press that the pandemic forced her to be homebound when she prefers to be singing live on the road.

“This pandemic is more than just a pandemic for me. This is stealing what I consider to be my last youthful years,” Nicks told the AP. “I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make. With every day that goes by, it’s like taking this time away from me. That I think is the hardest thing for me.”

“I have a lot of friends that are 60 and they’re going, ‘Oh I’m so old, I’m 60.’ I’m like, ‘You know what, the violins of the world are playing for you. You’re going to really appreciate 60 when you turn 72,’” she continued at the time. “I don’t feel like the whole world is really getting behind getting this to go away. I feel like people are just thinking it really is just magically going away. All it takes is a few people that don’t wear a mask to spread. Just let one person catch it from you and there it goes — it’s like the never-ending story. That worries me because I’m going, ‘Will it really be gone by the end of 2021?'”

You think she will leave out the hundreds oof men she slept with?

DownOnRodeo
08-19-2021, 02:55 AM
“I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make.”

I guess she must have to travel to all those apartments she was planning on dancing around in.

Macfan4life
08-19-2021, 03:48 AM
Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

Villavic
08-19-2021, 07:42 AM
Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

Yes, even Mick's first book she was forced:

Complicating matters slightly in the spring of 1987 was Stevie's admission to the Betty Ford Center in Palm Springs to get her life under control. This was done through an "intervention" by friends, members of her family, and the management company. Stevie spent twenty-eight days in a successful treatment for alcohol problems, but she didn't like being coerced into entering this facility, and Frontline was fired shortly thereafter.

Macfan4life
08-19-2021, 08:00 AM
Yes, even Mick's first book she was forced:

Complicating matters slightly in the spring of 1987 was Stevie's admission to the Betty Ford Center in Palm Springs to get her life under control. This was done through an "intervention" by friends, members of her family, and the management company. Stevie spent twenty-eight days in a successful treatment for alcohol problems, but she didn't like being coerced into entering this facility, and Frontline was fired shortly thereafter.
True but I don't need the book as a reminder. I remember it in real time. Notice it was 28 days. She was supposed to stay at least 30. I remember MTV clips like "Stevie runs away from rehab and is not talking to anyone". Indirectly this led to her klonopin addiction. Because she ditched rehab her friends and family became even more concerned thus requesting her see a doctor. When her tranquilizer addiction was full bloom no one dared say a word because of what happened the first time. Everyone was fired so they all became silent enablers.

On Ice
08-19-2021, 08:59 AM
:sorry: Stevie is just following the trend of history rewriting and facts don't matter. It works wonders for people with power and influence. Disappointing at this stage to see her try to pass off a total lie about her past and people swallow it up. So many people who stood by her so thoroughly thrown under the bus. Wonder how Sharona really feels?

jbrownsjr
08-19-2021, 09:44 AM
Let me get this straight... $tevie Nicks lied to the public to make herself look better? This is unbelievable!!!

sleepless child
08-19-2021, 10:22 AM
Her comments on keeping the Mac together fall flat also. She so lives in the past. I'm sure Tim was instructed to not ask her about Lindsey. Interesting interview though. I never knew she had a record deal out of high school.

sue
08-19-2021, 10:25 AM
She says her life story would have to be chopped up into Four books.

One: before Fleetwood Mac
Two: the Mac years
Three: solo career
And what ??

maybe ideas for the fourth book could be
The drug years..
How to sh*g anyone and everyone..
My cook book recipes..
How to build an ego.
How to handle HR problems in business..( how to fire staff)
Selective memory and how it works…
Etc etc etc

HomerMcvie
08-19-2021, 10:59 AM
"It's not a lie, if you believe it Jerry". - George $tevie Costanza

$he really is NUTS. It's like $he doesn't think that thousands of people know the truth, yet $he's going to sit there and lie through her teeth.

What a LOON. What a F*CKING LOON.

Macfan4life
08-19-2021, 11:59 AM
A few more things that raise eyebrows in her memoir.

She taught Lindsey how to play guitar
She played the piano opening riff to Hold Me

BombaySapphire3
08-19-2021, 01:05 PM
A few more things that raise eyebrows in her memoir.

She taught Lindsey how to play guitar
She played the piano opening riff to Hold Me

I really do believe that she needs to be assessed for some form of dementia at this point.

lilyfee
08-19-2021, 02:07 PM
“I think that what I would do first, and only lately have I thought this, I might sit down at some point across the kitchen table with some of my girlfriends who have been there for a lot of it and put on a tape recorder and just start talking from the very beginning,” she said.


A recent Audible survey teased the idea of Stevie doing an audiobook as part of its Words+Music series. I’ve used Audible for a long time and usually when we get surveyed on something, it’s already in the works. I hope this is what Stevie is talking about!

Villavic
08-19-2021, 03:01 PM
A few more things that raise eyebrows in her memoir.

She taught Lindsey how to play guitar
She played the piano opening riff to Hold Me

https://teengazette.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/sheldon9.jpg

bwboy
08-19-2021, 04:31 PM
Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

Her management company didn’t force her to go to rehab. That doesn’t happen in America. They may have threatened to drop her or something like that, but a person has to want to quit in order to quit. Stevie could have said no, but she didn’t- she went to rehab and she quit doing cocaine. You say she only stayed 28 days instead of 30? Many people go to rehab a dozen times and still never quit using drugs. Addiction is powerful, and it sucks. She didn’t like her experience at rehab? Most people don’t. It’s hard and terrifying and humiliating. Same thing with psychiatric hospitals- most people hate being there, even though it may have ultimately helped them.

I’ve worked with people struggling with addiction. The fact that she quit cocaine after one stint in rehab is surprising. She should take credit for staying off drugs. It’s a miracle none of the Rumours 5 have died of a drug overdose.

jbrownsjr
08-19-2021, 05:20 PM
Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

So much for depending on her friends to tell her when to stop it.....

Remember when Stevie saved Lindsey after his heart attack. Her note to him saved him. :distress:

HomerMcvie
08-19-2021, 05:40 PM
Remember when Stevie saved Lindsey after his heart attack. Her note to him saved him. :distress:

I remember that! $he ran to him and performed CPR, then $he took off her moon pendant and used it as a makeshift scalpel, and performed open heart surgery on him.

He'd be DEAD if it weren't for her! He owes her EVERYTHING!!!

Macfan4life
08-19-2021, 05:52 PM
Her management company didn’t force her to go to rehab. That doesn’t happen in America. They may have threatened to drop her or something like that, but a person has to want to quit in order to quit. Stevie could have said no, but she didn’t- she went to rehab and she quit doing cocaine. You say she only stayed 28 days instead of 30? Many people go to rehab a dozen times and still never quit using drugs. Addiction is powerful, and it sucks. She didn’t like her experience at rehab? Most people don’t. It’s hard and terrifying and humiliating. Same thing with psychiatric hospitals- most people hate being there, even though it may have ultimately helped them.

I’ve worked with people struggling with addiction. The fact that she quit cocaine after one stint in rehab is surprising. She should take credit for staying off drugs. It’s a miracle none of the Rumours 5 have died of a drug overdose.
I am driving a car and you are my passenger. Suddenly I press the gas pedal to the floor and take my hands off the wheel. There is a curve near a cliff coming up. You grab the wheel. Did I force you to take the wheel? By your logic, I did not. We don't do that in America. You were free to sit back and relax and enjoy the view.
C'mon I cant believe even you believe this rubbish. So Mick is lying in his book how everyone including management "forced" her to go. If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.

aleuzzi
08-19-2021, 06:02 PM
I remember that! $he ran to him and performed CPR, then $he took off her moon pendant and used it as a makeshift scalpel, and performed open heart surgery on him.

He'd be DEAD if it weren't for her! He owes her EVERYTHING!!!

Landslide is about her saving Lindsey’s life through the healing power of over-obvious advice. She realizes this now.

UnwindedDreams
08-19-2021, 06:30 PM
I am driving a car and you are my passenger. Suddenly I press the gas pedal to the floor and take my hands off the wheel. There is a curve near a cliff coming up. You grab the wheel. Did I force you to take the wheel? By your logic, I did not. We don't do that in America. You were free to sit back and relax and enjoy the view.
C'mon I cant believe even you believe this rubbish. So Mick is lying in his book how everyone including management "forced" her to go. If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.
By "forced" I thought you meant they handcuffed her and drove her to rehab:p

She's also said she went to rehab because she was mad at everyone for telling her she "had" to go.

But then again, what is "had"? Is that force?

UnwindedDreams
08-19-2021, 06:31 PM
Landslide is about her saving Lindsey’s life through the healing power of over-obvious advice. She realizes this now.

And so changed my life~
:laugh:

aleuzzi
08-19-2021, 06:37 PM
And so changed my life~
:laugh:

I mean, has anyone ever written anything for HER?

UnwindedDreams
08-19-2021, 06:46 PM
I mean, has anyone ever written anything for HER?

:laugh: Classic!

HomerMcvie
08-19-2021, 06:48 PM
I am driving a car and you are my passenger. Suddenly I press the gas pedal to the floor and take my hands off the wheel. There is a curve near a cliff coming up. You grab the wheel. Did I force you to take the wheel? By your logic, I did not. We don't do that in America. You were free to sit back and relax and enjoy the view.
C'mon I cant believe even you believe this rubbish. So Mick is lying in his book how everyone including management "forced" her to go. If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.

BW is the ultimate FANBOY. Let him revel in his delusions.:p

HomerMcvie
08-19-2021, 06:49 PM
Landslide is about her saving Lindsey’s life through the healing power of over-obvious advice. She realizes this now.

The world would have most likely ended in 1975, if $tevie hadn't saved the world by joining FM.:laugh:

HomerMcvie
08-19-2021, 06:51 PM
I mean, has anyone ever written anything for HER?

Bills.

Cocaine bills.

They've written cocaine bills for her.

In her darkest hour...

jbrownsjr
08-19-2021, 07:04 PM
And just imagine how insulting that is to the people that actually helped her through the drug addiction, and had to put up with and endure her abuse while doing so.
I bet she was really nice to everyone that was trying to "tell her when to stop it". Give me a break.

...And credit to Aleuzzi for finishing my thought for me.

bwboy
08-19-2021, 07:06 PM
If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.

I am a substance abuse counselor. No, a substance abuse counselor would not say that someone who left rehab after 28 days failed. But regardless, the proof is evident she didn’t fail- she did, in fact, quit doing cocaine. I don’t see how you call that a failure. She could have stayed the extra two days and then left and did cocaine again- that would be failing. It doesn’t matter how long someone stays in rehab- what matters is whether you quit doing drugs.

As for why she “retaliated” against her company, I don’t know why but I would suspect she fired them because she didn’t think they were doing a good job, or she didn’t like how they did things. They did an intervention for her after her tour was over. Not while she was recording RAL, not before her tour, and not during the tour, but after. You’d almost think they wanted to make sure their commodity made as money as she could for their company before they intervened to get her into rehab. But that’s business for you.

UnwindedDreams
08-19-2021, 07:16 PM
I am a substance abuse counselor. No, a substance abuse counselor would not say that someone who left rehab after 28 days failed.

Isn't everything planned to the bone? Why isn't a treatment program 28 days then?

I know plenty of addicts who believe they failed if they didn't reach a milestone of sobriety, i.e. 30 days.

Treatment isn't just about stopping the specific drug use. It's about mind, body, and soul. Hence, quitting the drug isn't the only goal but rather a transformation of being into a spiritual person and a grateful one.

See The Serenity Prayer.

aleuzzi
08-19-2021, 09:49 PM
And just imagine how insulting that is to the people that actually helped her through the drug addiction, and had to put up with and endure her abuse while doing so.
I bet she was really nice to everyone that was trying to "tell her when to stop it". Give me a break.

...And credit to Aleuzzi for finishing my thought for me.

Very uncharacteristic of me. I can rarely finish my own thoughts. I am...ellipsis....Excalibur...

aleuzzi
08-19-2021, 09:53 PM
Bills.

Cocaine bills.

They've written cocaine bills for her.

In her darkest hour...

I forgot. Sandy Stewart “co-wrote” Seven Wonders. For her. With her help. Her word. Emmeline. The most expensive and misheard word in all of pop song craft.

vivfox
08-20-2021, 12:30 AM
We'll see her autobiography when we see her Rhiannon movie. Like never.

Macfan4life
08-20-2021, 03:36 AM
By "forced" I thought you meant they handcuffed her and drove her to rehab:p

She's also said she went to rehab because she was mad at everyone for telling her she "had" to go.

But then again, what is "had"? Is that force?
That's kidnapping and abduction.

Forced - an adjective
to impose by coercion

Macfan4life
08-20-2021, 05:52 AM
I am a substance abuse counselor. No, a substance abuse counselor would not say that someone who left rehab after 28 days failed. But regardless, the proof is evident she didn’t fail- she did, in fact, quit doing cocaine. I don’t see how you call that a failure. She could have stayed the extra two days and then left and did cocaine again- that would be failing. It doesn’t matter how long someone stays in rehab- what matters is whether you quit doing drugs.

As for why she “retaliated” against her company, I don’t know why but I would suspect she fired them because she didn’t think they were doing a good job, or she didn’t like how they did things. They did an intervention for her after her tour was over. Not while she was recording RAL, not before her tour, and not during the tour, but after. You’d almost think they wanted to make sure their commodity made as money as she could for their company before they intervened to get her into rehab. But that’s business for you.
As a substance abuse counselor you are aware that addiction is powerful. Many addicts switch to other drugs to keep the addiction going. That's exactly what Stevie did. She left cocaine and went right into tranquilizers. Maybe if she was successful and did not leave rehab early and retaliate against everyone, she could have beat addiction the first time. As a substance abuse counselor you are also aware that addicts frequently blame their behavior on other people. That's exactly what Stevie has always done. First it was people that forced her to go to rehab. Then it was friends that forced her to see a doctor. Then it was the doctor who kept prescribing the drug. At some point you must be accountable for your behavior and decisions. An addict will always seek out drugs and more drugs.
Success is defined by staying in a treatment program instead of blaming others or substituting one drug for another.

jbrownsjr
08-20-2021, 08:54 AM
We'll see her autobiography when we see her Rhiannon movie. Like never.

I seriously would love to see the Rhiannon movie!! It's been shoved in my face since the 80's.

vivfox
08-20-2021, 10:23 AM
I seriously would love to see the Rhiannon movie!! It's been shoved in my face since the 80's.

And in my face since the 70's.

vivfox
08-20-2021, 10:28 AM
Many addicts switch to other drugs to keep the addiction going. That's exactly what Stevie did.

N/A teaches that alcohol is a drug also. She refused to stop drinking because she claimed it was never a problem for her. So you can't claim you have been clean for umpteen years when you simply stop using your drug of choice but substitute the high with other items. A few years back she told a reporter she was, "sober as a judge," onstage. Well you quit drinking but you still smoke pot. That makes you still a using addict. Facts.

HomerMcvie
08-20-2021, 10:29 AM
And in my face since the 70's.

Yep. I swear I've got an article I cut out of People magazine in like 1978, where she was talking about it.

BigAl84
08-20-2021, 11:53 AM
Her delivery blows. No pun intended. I'm not sure she meant to imply nobody helped her along the way, but because she's incapable of making a statement that isn't about me, me, and only me...it sure comes across the wrong way.

She makes me cringe every time she does an interview now. Every time.

BigAl84
08-20-2021, 11:58 AM
and also...not that she's unique in doing it, but vamping up the rehab drama/drug addiction has really been her dramatic talking point for the past 20 years.

I too would be proud of recovering, but I hope I would want to talk about other things after a while.

jmn3
08-20-2021, 12:20 PM
Her delivery blows. No pun intended. I'm not sure she meant to imply nobody helped her along the way, but because she's incapable of making a statement that isn't about me, me, and only me...it sure comes across the wrong way.

She makes me cringe every time she does an interview now. Every time.

Yep. And this goes back a long way. It’s the FM Behind the Music episode where she made that being in Fleetwood Mac is like being in the army comment I believe. I recall watching and even at 16/17 feeling like that is the dumbest celebrity comment to make. She comes across as one of the most self centered humans that I’ve ever seen.

jbrownsjr
08-20-2021, 01:02 PM
Yep. And this goes back a long way. It’s the FM Behind the Music episode where she made that being in Fleetwood Mac is like being in the army comment I believe. I recall watching and even at 16/17 feeling like that is the dumbest celebrity comment to make. She comes across as one of the most self centered humans that I’ve ever seen.

I swear to you JMN3. I have a friend that became my best friend since moving to Los Angeles permanently in 1997. To this day, whenever something goes wrong I say, "You should know that my life is like being in the army."
(It's funnier if you picture two gay guys saying it to each other, in Paris, on their 3rd vacation that year.):lol:

Villavic
08-20-2021, 01:41 PM
It’s the FM Behind the Music episode where she made that being in Fleetwood Mac is like being in the army comment I believe. .

It was at he Classic Albums: Making of Rumours.

Macfan4life
08-20-2021, 01:55 PM
Yep. And this goes back a long way. It’s the FM Behind the Music episode where she made that being in Fleetwood Mac is like being in the army comment I believe. I recall watching and even at 16/17 feeling like that is the dumbest celebrity comment to make. She comes across as one of the most self centered humans that I’ve ever seen.
Oh come on now. Give her a break

She was born in the desert like baby Jesus
So she knows how it feels there

She knows what its like being in the Army so she could understand how they felt in a foxhole in a desert war zone. You cant understand that?

BigAl84
08-20-2021, 02:17 PM
Oh come on now. Give her a break

She was born in the desert like baby Jesus
So she knows how it feels there

She knows what its like being in the Army so she could understand how they felt in a foxhole in a desert war zone. You cant understand that?

She knows what it's like to be a forgotten chimpanzee :]:]:]

In all seriousness, her complete shift since about 2011 has been really sad to witness as somebody who was a really huge fan. I really miss '97-'99 era Stevie.

bombaysaffires
08-20-2021, 02:30 PM
Yep. And this goes back a long way. It’s the FM Behind the Music episode where she made that being in Fleetwood Mac is like being in the army comment I believe. I recall watching and even at 16/17 feeling like that is the dumbest celebrity comment to make. She comes across as one of the most self centered humans that I’ve ever seen.

oh she made that comment as far back as the 1970s. Apparently having to be where you're needed to be and be there on time was news to her and she equated it to the Army.

jbrownsjr
08-20-2021, 03:01 PM
she knows what it's like to be a forgotten chimpanzee :]:]:]

in all seriousness, her complete shift since about 2011 has been really sad to witness as somebody who was a really huge fan. I really miss '97-'99 era stevie.

welcome everybody!

Macfan4life
08-20-2021, 04:26 PM
oh she made that comment as far back as the 1970s. Apparently having to be where you're needed to be and be there on time was news to her and she equated it to the Army.
Yes she has said that line many times up to the mid 80s. Her other go to line was the baby sister line about being left out of Fleetwood Mac since she did not play an instrument. They gave her center stage yet she felt left out.

Its funny because Christine had the opposite reaction from her 1980 interview how rock stars are spoiled and waited on hand and foot. Stevie had so many assistants and was high most of the time which is the complete opposite of being in the Army.

jbrownsjr
08-20-2021, 05:58 PM
Yes she has said that line many times up to the mid 80s. Her other go to line was the baby sister line about being left out of Fleetwood Mac since she did not play an instrument. They gave her center stage yet she felt left out.

Its funny because Christine had the opposite reaction from her 1980 interview how rock stars are spoiled and waited on hand and foot. Stevie had so many assistants and was high most of the time which is the complete opposite of being in the Army.

That Christine interview is so honest. She does not play victim of anything.

aleuzzi
08-20-2021, 07:48 PM
That Christine interview is so honest. She does not play victim of anything.

Instead, she said things like: “we spend amounts of $ that are immoral. We tend to forget we have to pay it back in the end.”

bombaysaffires
08-20-2021, 08:41 PM
Yes she has said that line many times up to the mid 80s. Her other go to line was the baby sister line about being left out of Fleetwood Mac since she did not play an instrument. They gave her center stage yet she felt left out.

Its funny because Christine had the opposite reaction from her 1980 interview how rock stars are spoiled and waited on hand and foot. Stevie had so many assistants and was high most of the time which is the complete opposite of being in the Army.

Christine knows what it's like to travel on the low end-- lugging your own gear, own suitcase, not staying in the top hotels, etc. She did it for YEARS and many, many tours. Stevie might have experienced lower-end hotels on the BN tour but you can be sure she didn't lug her own suitcase or any equipment. And she surely didn't on the firs Mac tour. I don't know if she had Robin along as an assistant on the first Mac tour, but she sure did by the time they hit the road for Rumours. And she had all her girlfriends too.

Chris said on one of the last FM tours that she finally had an assistant and got a second room for her bags and her clothes etc. Meanwhile Miss Thang has been demanding the Presidential suite for years because she "deserves" it.

Macfan4life
08-22-2021, 06:38 AM
Christine knows what it's like to travel on the low end-- lugging your own gear, own suitcase, not staying in the top hotels, etc. She did it for YEARS and many, many tours. Stevie might have experienced lower-end hotels on the BN tour but you can be sure she didn't lug her own suitcase or any equipment. And she surely didn't on the firs Mac tour. I don't know if she had Robin along as an assistant on the first Mac tour, but she sure did by the time they hit the road for Rumours. And she had all her girlfriends too.

Chris said on one of the last FM tours that she finally had an assistant and got a second room for her bags and her clothes etc. Meanwhile Miss Thang has been demanding the Presidential suite for years because she "deserves" it.
And according to Mick's book, she would also request hotel rooms be painted pink and a grand piano installed in the room. She disputes that claim in Micks book.
I got a kick out of the catering story how they would pay big bucks for the best caterer in town before shows but Mick said they were too coked out to eat any of the food. The majority of it would be wasted.

No wonder when the Tusk tour ended, everyone looked at Mick and said, where is the money?

Straightback
08-22-2021, 10:59 AM
Two things:
1) Peter Guarlnick wrote a two volume biography on Elvis Presley: "Last Train to Memphis: The Rise of Elvis Presley" and "Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley." These books are probably the best and most exhaustingly ambitious and complete biographies ever written, and they were about the King of Rock and Roll no less. There was a long road of stuff to cover, drug use and all. For Stevie Nicks to think it would take 4 books to cover her life tells you all about the bloated opinion she has come to have of herself (and I say this as a fan).

2) She says: "I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make." F#$& me, but this this just makes me want to put my head through a wall. So what has been her excuse the 10 years before anyone ever heard of coronavirus when she dug her heels in against no FM album when time really was of the essence? Heck, even the last year and a half when she was in lockdown she could have worked to released reissues of "Rock a Little" and "TOSOTM." Instead, she shot those ideas down. So frustrating!

UnwindedDreams
08-22-2021, 11:04 AM
2) So what has been her excuse the 10 years before anyone ever heard of coronavirus when she dug her heels in against no FM album when time really was of the essence? Heck, even the last year and a half when she was in lockdown she could have worked to released reissues of "Rock a Little" and "TOSOTM." Instead, she shot those ideas down. So frustrating!
She'd say Lindsey Buckingham depressed her soul which prevented her from having any will to be creative.

BigAl84
08-22-2021, 02:26 PM
Production company: “we’d like to explore making a film about your life”
Stevie: “that’s fine but you can’t mention Fleetwood Mac and it has to be a 3 film series minimum”
Production Company: how long did you mention you’ve been sober?

BigAl84
08-22-2021, 02:28 PM
Two things:
1) Peter Guarlnick wrote a two volume biography on Elvis Presley: "Last Train to Memphis: The Rise of Elvis Presley" and "Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley." These books are probably the best and most exhaustingly ambitious and complete biographies ever written, and they were about the King of Rock and Roll no less. There was a long road of stuff to cover, drug use and all. For Stevie Nicks to think it would take 4 books to cover her life tells you all about the bloated opinion she has come to have of herself (and I say this as a fan).

2) She says: "I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make." F#$& me, but this this just makes me want to put my head through a wall. So what has been her excuse the 10 years before anyone ever heard of coronavirus when she dug her heels in against no FM album when time really was of the essence? Heck, even the last year and a half when she was in lockdown she could have worked to released reissues of "Rock a Little" and "TOSOTM." Instead, she shot those ideas down. So frustrating!

She doesn’t want to talk about 80s Stevie beyond Wild Heart. I’m pretty sure she would musically erase 85-95 and pretend it doesn’t exist if she could.

BigAl84
08-22-2021, 02:31 PM
Did she even talk about the current Lindsey/Mac situation in the Tim McGraw interview or is Karen still barring the topic?

David
08-22-2021, 05:46 PM
I’m pretty sure she would musically erase 85-95 and pretend it doesn’t exist if she could.
Hmm. Where do I sign?

The forty-year gestation for the Rhiannon project means one thing to me: project bloat. It's time to drop this grandiose idea of making a movie or a TV miniseries or an opera or whatever it is you kinda thought you wanted to more or less do at some point. Just do an album and call it Rhiannon. You were going to make a second album of songs from the vault anyway, so record your Rhiannon songs (ten of them, right?) on an album with the Nashville band you worked with a few years ago, stick a witchy old Worthington photo on the front cover and your Rhiannon painting on the back cover, and bingo, you can capstone your album career with this little beauty. Cautionary word: Keep your brother away from the fonts and design.

sue
08-23-2021, 02:32 AM
I keep having this vision, its a paragraph from one of the four volumes.

She’s injured…and fights on for us.(Fans)
She was on her power plate thing…(13 minutes a day, I remember her saying) ,
When it vibrates so much, she’s overcome and flies across the room, having visions on the way.
She loses her veneers and one of her platform boots, her tule skirt is torn to shreds, and she has to be scraped up from the opposite wall saying, more, more,

I can see the whole thing now…wish I couldn’t..

DownOnRodeo
08-24-2021, 06:52 AM
I keep having this vision, its a paragraph from one of the four volumes.

She’s injured…and fights on for us.(Fans)
She was on her power plate thing…(13 minutes a day, I remember her saying) ,
When it vibrates so much, she’s overcome and flies across the room, having visions on the way.
She loses her veneers and one of her platform boots, her tule skirt is torn to shreds, and she has to be scraped up from the opposite wall saying, more, more

I hope they hire you to write it.