Behind The Mask turns 31

[Macfan4life]

This is a few weeks over due but cant believe its been 31 years. The album was much anticipated and had extremely mixed reviews:

The album received very mixed reviews. AllMusic retrospectively gave the album 1.5/5 stars, their lowest rating of any Fleetwood Mac album, calling Buckingham's departure "a severe blow" for the band and saying that "the songs are among the least inspired the band ever recorded." Other critics, however, praised the new line-up. The Los Angeles Times gave the album 3.5/5 stars, commenting that "without Buckingham's obsessively unique vision, the group has embraced an all-for-one, one-for-all attitude for what sounds like the most truly group effort since Rumours, or perhaps even since 1972's Bare Trees." Rolling Stone rated it as 4/5 stars, claiming that "the addition of Rick Vito and Billy Burnette is the best thing to ever happen to Fleetwood Mac" and that "not since Rumours has Fleetwood Mac recorded pain so unwaveringly and sounded this together.

IMHO, half the album is very good while the other half is forgettable. What I do love about the album is the cohesive sound of the album. You can hear everyone playing (again). I love hearing Chris play her keyboards again. We missed so many of these elements on Tango. The album suffered by some pretty dull songs IMHO. Stevie was in a fog so yet again her contributions are not great. As usual, Chris came prepared to play because her songs shine like they always do. I love hearing that bluesy rhythm section humming again on several songs. Its very Fleetwood Mac sounding which is something Tango never was. I dont think you can judge an album by commercial success either. Many flame it for not producing hit singles. Part of me admires them not chasing Top 40 radio and sticking to their sound. Having said that, the album went to #1 in the UK and Save Me landed in the top 10 in Canada. I loved the video for both singles.
Of course I much prefer Lindsey in the band but these concerts were some of my favorite Mac concerts ever. I much prefer them over The Dance. This was the last of the "arena rock" sound live. In the late 90s too many bands esp the Mac preferred to tone it down and play like the studio in concert. Mick and Billy partying too much. Stevie in a fog. It was up to Christine to keep the band focused.

[On Ice]

Now I feel old a whole generation has turned over since BTM. :(. I really enjoyed the album at the time and felt it was the most cohesive effort since at least Mirage. In retrospect though, it's really a glass half full, some amazing tunes and others not that memorable. Christine shines like a diamond though. I enjoy Save Me more than her awesome Tango songs, it's great all around, and the title track, she really went for it. For Stevie, it was parts of songs, my favourite moment is the last minute or so of Freedom where she lets her voice soar and melds perfectly with Rick Vito's stellar guitar. Love is Dangerous was a lessor precursor to the great Desiree from Vito's solo album. I find Billy a bit bland but he turned in the Floyd like In the Back of My Mind which the band took some risks on the road and opened their show with. I think another album or two this line up could've had a great run into the early 2000's, a return to Olsen Dashut production would've taken the tinny sounding edge off and Stevie had some great songs at the time (no pun intended). Not a bad moment in the band's history all in all, the concerts during the period were truly great.

[UnwindedDreams]

Awesome post. I'm not enthusiastic about BTM. I like Freedom. Chris' songs are very good as usual.
The majority of Stevie's songs are co-writes, right? I guess that means Rick came up with the music like Mike always does in his collabs w. Stevie. Affairs of the Heart sounds like it could've been on Rock a Little so I'm guessing that's all her.

Did Stevie sing any of her BTM songs live?

[On Ice]

Hi Unwinded, except for Affairs Stevie's other 3 were co-writes. They did do Love is Dangerous at the show I saw in Toronto but none of the others made it to the set list.

[UnwindedDreams]

Hi Unwinded, except for Affairs Stevie's other 3 were co-writes. They did do Love is Dangerous at the show I saw in Toronto but none of the others made it to the set list.

That's cool! I guess the show was at Maple Leaf.
Love is Dangerous is a duet with Rick, right?
I liked the guitar for that, it's messy but also rhythmic and the song is a slower burner.
I guess it's a Stevie take on blues?

[Macfan4life]

The first few songs really blew my mind. We get album opener with Chris playing keyboards and her usually peppy love song. But the harmonies of all 4 were spectacular. Then OMG the guitar opening on Love is Dangerous. Its a very raw and bluesy song. Then In The Back of My Mind. I just love that opening and using 3 vocalists the way they did was outrageously good. Stevie echoing back and then Chris singing the bridge. After this song you knew it was a new Fleetwood Mac. If they could have put the title track on side one, Side 1 would be the bomb. After the first 4 songs, the album fades with Stevie's klonopin vocals on Affairs of the Heart. If you could put Freedom instead of Affairs and BTM instead of Do you know on side 1, it would really have been something. Side 2 has a few gems like When It Comes to Love and BTM but that's it really. Second time around is filler IMHO.

[UnwindedDreams]

After the first 4 songs, the album fades with Stevie's klonopin vocals on Affairs of the Heart. Second time around is filler IMHO.
Isn't the title "The Second Time"? Second Time Around is a perfect song by Shalamar:laugh:

If you had to put Affairs on a Stevie record, where would it fit? I said RAL because I think guitars and keys sound more 85 than 89.

[Macfan4life]

Isn't the title "The Second Time"? Second Time Around is a perfect song by Shalamar:laugh:

If you had to put Affairs on a Stevie record, where would it fit? I said RAL because I think guitars and keys sound more 85 than 89.
Yes but their version was better than Stevie's :eek:


Affairs of the heart has a snoozer vocal (someone pinch her to wake her up). The music is blah but I hate songs where the background vocals finish lines of the singer and vice versa. Its a great line about loved and lost and better not to lose but good grief you dont have to repeat it a thousand times.
I've always wondered if this hallway of pink and grey doors is near the stairs she is staring at? :eek:

[UnwindedDreams]

Its a great line about loved and lost and better not to lose but good grief you dont have to repeat it a thousand times.


But you do love "I sang these words: Whatever it takes, Whatever it takes.. to be free" right?:laugh:

[Macfan4life]

Found this little snippet from Chis 1990:

Fans may have been disappointed by Buckingham's absence, but Fleetwood Mac ultimately saw it as restoring a spark that had been increasingly absent during the past few years of his tenure. "We had been sitting around for years not doing too much, and Fleetwood Mac had started to drift apart," mused Fleetwood after Behind the Mask's arrival. "But his departure brought about a real commitment by the rest of us to what we're doing."

Long-time singer and keyboardist Christine McVie agreed. "I like the fact that we really did pull it off," she told Rolling Stone. "The record was well arranged and well thought out, despite the fact that Lindsey wasn't there."

Fleetwood confirmed that McVie filled whatever leadership void remained. "Christine really took the bull by the horns this time," he said during a conversation with the Boston Globe. "And with Lindsey gone, the older members of the band enjoyed getting back to how we used to make albums. It was very much a team effort. ... No offense to Lindsey, but he was becoming obsessive in the studio and we were beginning to take a backseat."

[FuzzyPlum]

"the addition of Rick Vito and Billy Burnette is the best thing to ever happen to Fleetwood Mac"

I bet that reviewer wishes he could turn the clock back.
'what was I thinking???':shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

"the addition of Rick Vito and Billy Burnette is the best thing to ever happen to Fleetwood Mac"

I bet that reviewer wishes he could turn the clock back.
'what was I thinking???':shrug:

Christine McVie is the best thing to ever happen to FM.

[bwboy]

I agree with a lot of what was already said here- BTM sounds more like a group album than anything they had done since Rumours, absolutely. Fleetwood Mac had 3 incredible voices, so why not let them all be heard on as many songs as possible? So hearing Stevie, Billy, and Rick on Skies the Limit is just awesome and a real joy. Hearing Christine and Stevie on In the Back of My Mind sends chills up my spine and is so much more effective. BTM is an album I can listen to from start to finish. I can’t do that on Tusk, Mirage, or Tango. I also agree Stevie comes off the worst, but at least her songs aren’t awful... just not as good as everyone else’s, that’s all. I guess I’m in the minority with my love for Do You Know, Hard Feelings, and When It Comes to Love- they’re so good with beautiful harmonies. Save Me and Skies the Limit are outstanding, so I don’t understand how they weren’t bigger hits, except that radio was changing at that time. Also always surprised Skies wasn’t performed live.

[Macfan4life]

I agree with a lot of what was already said here- BTM sounds more like a group album than anything they had done since Rumours, absolutely. Fleetwood Mac had 3 incredible voices, so why not let them all be heard on as many songs as possible? So hearing Stevie, Billy, and Rick on Skies the Limit is just awesome and a real joy. Hearing Christine and Stevie on In the Back of My Mind sends chills up my spine and is so much more effective. BTM is an album I can listen to from start to finish. I can’t do that on Tusk, Mirage, or Tango. I also agree Stevie comes off the worst, but at least her songs aren’t awful... just not as good as everyone else’s, that’s all. I guess I’m in the minority with my love for Do You Know, Hard Feelings, and When It Comes to Love- they’re so good with beautiful harmonies. Save Me and Skies the Limit are outstanding, so I don’t understand how they weren’t bigger hits, except that radio was changing at that time. Also always surprised Skies wasn’t performed live.
When I was in college and had no life, I lived in a small college town in PA. The radio sucked and they had this adult contemporary station that aired a Dick Clark top 40 adult contemporary songs. The only time I heard Skies the Limit on the radio was on this countdown show. I would listen every week because like most top 40 countdown shows, they provide little facts or trivia about the songs or band. Believe it or not but Skies the Limit made it into the top 10 of this countdown show. So I have remembered the little known facts about this era. For example, the band obviously was disappointed in the album sales and lack of commercial success. Skies the Limit was not originally on the album. I believe BTM was originally the opening track. But after the album was finished, the band thought the album was way too dark. It needed that Christine peppy love song. So Christine wrote Skies the Limit very quickly and it was recorded last and it was slapped as the first track of the album trying to soften the dark mood. I am not sure it worked in the end but I love Skies the Limit besides the harmonies. I love hearing Christine play keyboards and the crack of the drums are so freaking cool. Music video shot at Red Rocks. I was surprised Save Me tanked without even making the top 20. But then again we all thought As Long As You Follow would be a #1 song and it did not even make top 40. Fleetwood Mac was a washed up band in 1990. Even their Farewell Tour in late 1990 had tons of empty seats. When I saw them at the Pittsburgh Civic arena in November 1990, the entire balcony of the arena was empty. They even dropped Save Me from the set and replaced it with Say You Love me when I saw them. Stevie and Chris wore the shortest skirts of their career on this tour. I sat behind Chris and could not believe how beautiful her legs were. Skin was in. The last days of the 80's vixens.

BTW, did I mention how good Christine's keyboard playing is on this album. OMG, I wish there was a stripped down version of Save Me with ONLY her keyboards. She is on fire. She also does an amazing keyboard on Do You Know. When I would drive listening to When It Comes To Love and Do You Know in my car, I would try to harmonize with Chris and Billy. Of course I ruined the song every time but I did not care.

Also, as much as Stevie tried to hint Madonna stole her look, Stevie stole Madonna's look by sporting a crucifix in Save Me. Honey, you were about 4 years too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or1VPIanDlw

[bwboy]

Thanks for the link to the video, Macfan4life- it’s been years since I’ve seen the video to Save Me, and it was a great blast from the past. I’d forgotten how much Christine had improved when it came to performing for the camera... she was really doing a great job in the close ups of selling the song. And she was beautiful, too. I’d say she was even prettier than Stevie. Watching Rick play guitar was incredible, man he was so good! After Save Me, Skies the Limit came on and that was also an underrated song and video. Again, Christine looked stunning, and this time Stevie looked much better, and so good in white! Loved the scene with all 4 singers singing in profile- yes! That’s what made FM so damn good, those voices in harmony.

Thanks again, Macfan!

[jbrownsjr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTkQ5lG4Sv8

[jbrownsjr]

I really enjoyed this album when it came out. I was a bit heartbroken when LB left. But, I was elated that they were able to carry on without him.

This tour was one of the best I've ever seen. They played their asses off.

[Macfan4life]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTkQ5lG4Sv8
Great video. I could never understand MTV NEVER played Skies the Limit video. It was only aired on Vh1. MTV did play the hell out of Save Me and if my memory is correct it even landed in their top 10 video countdown. MTV also never played As Long As You Follow either. As a fan I could never understand this. I clearly see they saw the songs more adult contemporary and a better fit for Vh1. However, the Mac was a classic band and just years before had their Mac Attack Tango special. Clearly not getting played on MTV also hurt the popularity of these songs.

Back in the day, Vh1 played classic videos and more adult contemporary stuff. MTV played the current pop/rock stuff.

[jbrownsjr]

Great video. I could never understand MTV NEVER played Skies the Limit video. It was only aired on Vh1. MTV did play the hell out of Save Me and if my memory is correct it even landed in their top 10 video countdown. MTV also never played As Long As You Follow either. As a fan I could never understand this. I clearly see they saw the songs more adult contemporary and a better fit for Vh1. However, the Mac was a classic band and just years before had their Mac Attack Tango special. Clearly not getting played on MTV also hurt the popularity of these songs.

Back in the day, Vh1 played classic videos and more adult contemporary stuff. MTV played the current pop/rock stuff.

Christine really had her look going on. She's looks amazing in some of these videos.

[greendaze5]

They did do Love is Dangerous at the show I saw in Toronto but none of the others made it to the set list.


I was at the Toronto show too. :nod:

I also saw the 3 back-to-back concerts they did at Great Woods, MA. No 'Love is Dangerous' there, but they did do 'In the Back of My Mind', which I don't remember hearing in Toronto.

At Great Woods, the instrumental and the voices of 'In the Back of My Mind' played as show started. There was like a big semi-transparent net-gauze concealing the stage, and when the band took their places and Billy B. started singing 'Well, I try and I try...', the net suddenly dropped and the lights went up as the crowd went wild. Very dramatic!

[bwboy]

Christine really had her look going on. She's looks amazing in some of these videos.

They all looked great in As Long As You Follow, but especially Christine. The whole band just looked so classy.

I remember listening to the radio one night and dj said “coming up this hour, the new song by Fleetwood Mac,” so I recorded the next several songs hoping to get it. Then a song came on and I thought for sure it was FM- it was a man singing, who I figured was Billy, and the music sounded like it could have been FM, maybe trying something new; anyway, it turned out the song was The Promise by When in Rome lol. While I love ALAYF, I kind of wonder if maybe the band should have tried something radically different for a single, like a shortened version of In the Back of My Mind.

Also, when I saw FM in Cincinnati, they performed In the Back of My Mind, Love is Dangerous, and Stand on the Rock. No Save Me, though- I was really bummed!

[Macfan4life]

They all looked great in As Long As You Follow, but especially Christine. The whole band just looked so classy.

I remember listening to the radio one night and dj said “coming up this hour, the new song by Fleetwood Mac,” so I recorded the next several songs hoping to get it. Then a song came on and I thought for sure it was FM- it was a man singing, who I figured was Billy, and the music sounded like it could have been FM, maybe trying something new; anyway, it turned out the song was The Promise by When in Rome lol. While I love ALAYF, I kind of wonder if maybe the band should have tried something radically different for a single, like a shortened version of In the Back of My Mind.

Also, when I saw FM in Cincinnati, they performed In the Back of My Mind, Love is Dangerous, and Stand on the Rock. No Save Me, though- I was really bummed!
You must have seen the end of the tour like me. They dropped Save Me for Say You Love Me. There is a killer version (good quality) of Save Me live when the Farewell tour started after the tour resumed in Gainsville, FL. I have posted it here before but its on youtube.

I agree everyone looks great except for Stevie in the Save Me video. She looks so drugged out and bloated and her eyes so glassy. Notice like the Heart videos of the late 80s they only showed Stevie's face with her giant crucifix necklace :eek:

[UnwindedDreams]

You must have seen the end of the tour like me. They dropped Save Me for Say You Love Me.
I didn't attend a 1990 concert but I think from what I've seen, it was the most fan-catered setlist. If you were a fan of all of their work, they gave you a good serving of new songs. I'm not enthused by BTM album but I would've liked to have heard the songs live for sure.

I honestly don't know the song Tear It Up.

Did Stevie really do Sara once on this tour? It seems like Sara is a song that she doesn't do for a whole tour unless the tour's with Lindsey. Though the song touches on Mick, it's very much become about BN, especially since they started the Sara hug.

[jmn3]

I didn't attend a 1990 concert but I think from what I've seen, it was the most fan-catered setlist. If you were a fan of all of their work, they gave you a good serving of new songs. I'm not enthused by BTM album but I would've liked to have heard the songs live for sure.

I honestly don't know the song Tear It Up.

Did Stevie really do Sara once on this tour? It seems like Sara is a song that she doesn't do for a whole tour unless the tour's with Lindsey. Though the song touches on Mick, it's very much become about BN, especially since they started the Sara hug.

That rumor about Sara has been on the net for 20+ years and nobody has ever substantiated it. The rumor was somewhere in NJ or NY they opened with the “last ever” performance of Sara (until 2004). There’s just no way at all. It’s out of character for this band to change the set like that. And opening a show with Sara? Come on now.

[jbrownsjr]

You must have seen the end of the tour like me. They dropped Save Me for Say You Love Me. There is a killer version (good quality) of Save Me live when the Farewell tour started after the tour resumed in Gainsville, FL. I have posted it here before but its on youtube.

I agree everyone looks great except for Stevie in the Save Me video. She looks so drugged out and bloated and her eyes so glassy. Notice like the Heart videos of the late 80s they only showed Stevie's face with her giant crucifix necklace :eek:

Agreed. But Stevie looks amazing in ALAYF. Stunning.

[UnwindedDreams]

That rumor about Sara has been on the net for 20+ years and nobody has ever substantiated it. The rumor was somewhere in NJ or NY they opened with the “last ever” performance of Sara (until 2004). There’s just no way at all. It’s out of character for this band to change the set like that. And opening a show with Sara? Come on now.

I think that was John Kinney who published the rumor on NicksFix?

They did do Blue Letter once in 2019!

[aleuzzi]

I never liked BTM. I like it less than TIME. But even the worst FM album (and in my mind it’s the worst) has potential.

“Save Me” is a really good tune. I’m not nuts about the arrangement, the synth flourishes, the slick yet dated production, but the bones of the song and the terrific vocal still hold up. The title track is genuinely interesting, and a couple of Stevie songs are okay. She sings far better here than on TANGO. So there’s that. The men try hard and deliver respectable music, but I just couldn’t (nor can’t) get interested. And the harmonies sound bloated.

By comparison, the songs on TIME are spare and effective. “Talking To My Heart” is better than any Burnette, Vito, or Nicks on BTM. Becka and Billy make a great duo.

[HomerMcvie]

I never liked BTM. I like it less than TIME. But even the worst FM album (and in my mind it’s the worst) has potential.

“Save Me” is a really good tune. I’m not nuts about the arrangement, the synth flourishes, the slick yet dated production, but the bones of the song and the terrific vocal still hold up. The title track is genuinely interesting, and a couple of Stevie songs are okay. She sings far better here than on TANGO. So there’s that. The men try hard and deliver respectable music, but I just couldn’t (not can’t) get interested. And the harmonies sound bloated.

By comparison, the songs on TIME are spare and effective. “Talking To My Heart” is better than any Burnette, Vito, or Nicks on BTM. Becka and Billy make a great duo.

Thank you. Time is a better album than BTM. I too could never really get into BTM, other than Christine's two 'hits', Do You Know, and Love Is Dangerous. The rest is filler.

[Macfan4life]

That rumor about Sara has been on the net for 20+ years and nobody has ever substantiated it. The rumor was somewhere in NJ or NY they opened with the “last ever” performance of Sara (until 2004). There’s just no way at all. It’s out of character for this band to change the set like that. And opening a show with Sara? Come on now.
That was a rumor. The rumor was ruined when the setlist and bootlegs showed up from the NJ show. No, they did not open with Sara. Sara was not played on this tour. I was always peeved that they did Sara on the European leg of the Tango tour. No audio or bootlegs of it either :(

[aleuzzi]

Thank you. Time is a better album than BTM. I too could never really get into BTM, other than Christine's two 'hits', Do You Know, and Love Is Dangerous. The rest is filler.

I can’t listen to “Skies the Limit.” I hate this song. It’s rare that any of Christine’s lesser songs fail to reach an acceptable standard, but this one truly stinks. An embarrassment. Once that decent opening verse runs its course, I start to cringe.

[jbrownsjr]

I can’t listen to “Skies the Limit.” I hate this song. It’s rare that any of Christine’s lesser songs fail to reach an acceptable standard, but this one truly stinks. An embarrassment. Once that decent opening verse runs its course, I start to cringe.

Gonna fly out and argue with you!! :laugh:

[Macfan4life]

Gonna fly out and argue with you!! :laugh:
You have back up this time. My pitchfork and torch are packed and ready to go.

[aleuzzi]

Gonna fly out and argue with you!! :laugh:

Wait, you dislike “Temporary One” but defend “Skies the Limit”? Yes, let’s argue. But we’ll hug it out, first.

[aleuzzi]

You have back up this time. My pitchfork and torch are packed and ready to go.

I got a bucket of water for the torch and a fat suit to deflect the pitchfork. Seriously, I genuinely hate “Skies”—the only Christine song that makes me hurl.

[David]

I genuinely hate “Skies”—the only Christine song that makes me hurl.
Ohhhhhh no .............. aw, jeez.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/ad3e190de7bf5df4f589a8339e7e30e8/tumblr_od7arv6pY51s02vreo1_250.gif

[Macfan4life]

I got a bucket of water for the torch and a fat suit to deflect the pitchfork. Seriously, I genuinely hate “Skies”—the only Christine song that makes me hurl.
Thats what makes all of use wonderful. We all like different things. I love the song mostly because of the crisp drums and Chris's playing. However, it does seem like a song that was written quickly. But seriously, how can we fail?

Next up: Homer's house and Oh Daddy :eek:
Tina, bring me the axe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpY0tmpLZBs


Homer, here's Johnny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLEdpDpoTTA

[Street_Dreamer]

Nothing is worse than The Second Time. Absolute dreck. Not only one of the worst Fleetwood Mac songs of their entire catalogue but an all-time terrible song.

[mitzo]

Nothing is worse than The Second Time. Absolute dreck. Not only one of the worst Fleetwood Mac songs of their entire catalogue but an all-time terrible song.

My favourite from the album. Pure Stevie sadness, what is not to love!

[bwboy]

Wait, you dislike “Temporary One” but defend “Skies the Limit”? Yes, let’s argue. But we’ll hug it out, first.

I’m with jbrownsjr- I’d take Skies the Limit over Temporary One all day, anytime. Talk about a bad song! But different strokes for different folks.

[bwboy]

Nothing is worse than The Second Time. Absolute dreck. Not only one of the worst Fleetwood Mac songs of their entire catalogue but an all-time terrible song.

I agree with Mitzo on this, too. While nowhere near my favorite, I don’t think it’s deck, especially compared to When I see You Again. Whassa matter baby, whassa matter baby, baby, babbeee! Babeee!

[jmn3]

I agree with Mitzo on this, too. While nowhere near my favorite, I don’t think it’s deck, especially compared to When I see You Again. Whassa matter baby, whassa matter baby, baby, babbeee! Babeee!

She stares at the stairs. There are so many things to stare at these days. <— is one of the worst pieces of lyrical garbage this band or any of its songwriters have ever put out!

[HomerMcvie]

I’m with jbrownsjr- I’d take Skies the Limit over Temporary One all day, anytime. Talk about a bad song! But different strokes for different folks.

Temporary One blows goats. Lame assed song.

[mitzo]

I agree with Mitzo on this, too. While nowhere near my favorite, I don’t think it’s deck, especially compared to When I see You Again. Whassa matter baby, whassa matter baby, baby, babbeee! Babeee!

I am a fan of WISYA too. Melancholy and weird and mysterious and incoherent. What's the problem?

[HomerMcvie]

What's the problem?

It sounds like a 3yo wrote it.

Wasssamatta baby, wasssamatta baby, wasssamatta baby.

[bwboy]

Temporary One blows goats. Lame assed song.

If Homer and jbrownsjr say Temporary One sucks, then who are we to disagree?!? They are the Christine McVie authority here! Still, of all the singer/songwriters in FM, she is the most consistent one. There are some songs by Stevie and Lindsey that I hate, but I can’t say that about any of Christine’s songs, though. Well, except for Temporary One. And maybe One More Night.

[HomerMcvie]

If Homer and jbrownsjr say Temporary One sucks, then who are we to disagree?!? They are the Christine McVie authority here! Still, of all the singer/songwriters in FM, she is the most consistent one. There are some songs by Stevie and Lindsey that I hate, but I can’t say that about any of Christine’s songs, though. Well, except for Temporary One. And maybe One More Night.

One More Night is a snoozer, too! It's on par with Oh Daddy!

[aleuzzi]

One More Night is a snoozer, too! It's on par with Oh Daddy!

Oh Daddy is a masterpiece. One of the greatest songs in the FM catalog. But hey, my saying so isn’t going to change your mind.

[aleuzzi]

Temporary One blows goats. Lame assed song.

I love it. The song. Your image is colorful and disturbing. But it’s the song I love.

[HomerMcvie]

Oh Daddy is a masterpiece. One of the greatest songs in the FM catalog. But hey, my saying so isn’t going to change your mind.

Oh Daddy is too sleepy for me. I tolerated for all those years until Mick claimed it was about him. Then I lost all interest! :laugh:

[aleuzzi]

Oh Daddy is too sleepy for me. I tolerated for all those years until Mick claimed it was about him. Then I lost all interest! :laugh:

His claim is so obnoxious. He so desperately wants a song on Rumours to be about him.

[HomerMcvie]

His claim is so obnoxious. He so desperately wants a song on Rumours to be about him.

Mick is a LOSER. I'm sure they all know it. They waited TWENTY YEARS to claim it was about him. And THEY didn't claim it. Loser did. Poor Christine towed the company line and went along, like she always has, and went along with his claim.

[aleuzzi]

Mick is a LOSER. I'm sure they all know it. They waited TWENTY YEARS to claim it was about him. And THEY didn't claim it. Loser did. Poor Christine towed the company line and went along, like she always has, and went along with his claim.

And you can see how uncomfortable the lie makes her when she toes that line. She only ever repeats what Mick says (“he was the father of the group”) but doesn’t (can’t) explain or describe the creative impulses that went into the tune as she does with her other RUMOURS songs. She’s so obviously just letting him have his delusion.

[mitzo]

Oh Daddy is too sleepy for me. I tolerated for all those years until Mick claimed it was about him. Then I lost all interest! :laugh:

I love sleepy. Not everything has to be toe-tapping, finger-snapping fun. Art is not a sock hop.

[Macfan4life]

I love sleepy. Not everything has to be toe-tapping, finger-snapping fun. Art is not a sock hop.
Oh Daddy is not sleepy. Its an orchestra of mystical 70's guitar, percussion and keyboards. When I hear the music, I picture an early morning somewhere when the sun is breaking and mist and fog all about. yes the music is so good it puts visuals in my head.

[HomerMcvie]

I love sleepy. Not everything has to be toe-tapping, finger-snapping fun. Art is not a sock hop.

Think About Me is my favorite FM song of all time, because it's perfect, containing all of the above, except sleepy.

That.Is.All.:lol:

[bwboy]

Think About Me is my favorite FM song of all time, because it's perfect, containing all of the above, except sleepy.

That.Is.All.:lol:

:shocked: Wow, that is high praise indeed! I love it, too. It’s not my favorite, but definitely one of my favorites. I really love the ending, it kind of reminds me of the girl group songs of the sixties, and that is a total compliment. Think About Me is about as joyous as FM ever let themselves sound.

[HomerMcvie]

:shocked: Wow, that is high praise indeed! I love it, too. It’s not my favorite, but definitely one of my favorites. I really love the ending, it kind of reminds me of the girl group songs of the sixties, and that is a total compliment. Think About Me is about as joyous as FM ever let themselves sound.

Agreed. You Make Loving Fun would probably be it's runner up, as the the happiest song they ever recorded.

TAM instantly puts me in a good mood, and I crank TF out of the stereo!

[mitzo]

Think About Me is my favorite FM song of all time, because it's perfect, containing all of the above, except sleepy.

That.Is.All.:lol:

It's OK. Quite generic FM midtempo stuff, really.

[HomerMcvie]

It's OK. Quite generic FM midtempo stuff, really.

And you hate Lindsey. We get it. Curmudgeon! :lol::cool:

[michelej1]

I can’t listen to “Skies the Limit.” I hate this song. It’s rare that any of Christine’s lesser songs fail to reach an acceptable standard, but this one truly stinks. An embarrassment. Once that decent opening verse runs its course, I start to cringe.

You’re just mad about the spelling.

[michelej1]

Please. Christine said it was about Mick earlier than that.

[michelej1]

She stares at the stairs. There are so many things to stare at these days. <— is one of the worst pieces of lyrical garbage this band or any of its songwriters have ever put out!

You hurt my everything.

[michelej1]

Mick is a LOSER. I'm sure they all know it. They waited TWENTY YEARS to claim it was about him. And THEY didn't claim it. Loser did. Poor Christine towed the company line and went along, like she always has, and went along with his claim.

I remember in 1987 when Lindsey left Christine was calling Mick the “daddy” and minimizing Lindsey’s role. She probably always called Mick Daddy in private. Maybe now she calls him Zaddy. :distress:

I think the energy shifts from time to time. When there is a lapse in one person there will be more energy coming from another. It’s always compensated somehow by the energy shifting itself. Mick, I would say,
is the guru if you’d like, the daddy.



Seriously though, you remember that video where Lindsey defiantly and petulantly says he is leaving and not doing any more interviews and doesn’t want a cheese omelet (suggested by Stevie) because he wants FRENCH FOOD. Christine was whining and appealing to Mick because she wanted to leave too. Mick kind of put his foot down and made it clear she wasn’t going anywhere. I definitely could tell back then that he was the father figure. That was before he lost all of his money, failed as the manager and became rather pathetic in their eyes.

[HomerMcvie]

Please. Christine said it was about Mick earlier than that.

I don't ever remember that being said before "the making of Rumours"(or whatever it's called- it's at my other house, so I can't look for reference).

Ar least we agree that he's a loser. Even drugged up $tevie could see that by 1987.

[michelej1]

I would have to look to see if I can find a real early reference to the meaning behind the song. But I know she called Mick the group’s “daddy” in 1987 and in 1990 she said in the Roger Moore interview, “Oh Daddy, I had written about Jenny and Mick. Jenny and Mick were going through their bad times as
everybody else was and this was written so to speak from the shoes of Jenny who at that time was really really sad about the lack of prospect of their marriage surviving. So this was all about those two.”

[HomerMcvie]

I would have to look to see if I can find a real early reference to the meaning behind the song. But I know she called Mick the group’s “daddy” in 1987 and in 1990 she said in the Roger Moore interview, “Oh Daddy, I had written about Jenny and Mick. Jenny and Mick were going through their bad times as
everybody else was and this was written so to speak from the shoes of Jenny who at that time was really really sad about the lack of prospect of their marriage surviving. So this was all about those two.”
Wow. I've never seen that, but would love to.

Although I'll be greatly disappointed if it's actually about him. :lol:

[bwboy]

I don't ever remember that being said before "the making of Rumours"(or whatever it's called- it's at my other house, so I can't look for reference).

Other house? Your summer home in Malibu? Or the Chateau in France? :lol: Just ribbing you!

[jmn3]

Other house? Your summer home in Malibu? Or the Chateau in France? :lol: Just ribbing you!

He's starting to sound like Stevie. He probably has a separate apartment to just dance and twirl around in too (to Oh Daddy...they will be slowww twirls)!

:laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

Other house? Your summer home in Malibu? Or the Chateau in France? :lol: Just ribbing you!

I have a house in the country in Indiana, and a condo in downtown Nashville. I go back and forth every other week, and NO ONE can understand that concept...
"So you moved away?"
Nope.
"But you're not here!"
I will be next week.
*walks away with confused look...*


I WISH it was a chateau in France, but Homie HATES flying, so I have settle for a second home within driving distance...(3.5 hours)

[michelej1]

Wow. I've never seen that, but would love to.

Although I'll be greatly disappointed if it's actually about him. :lol:

Roger Moore Classic CDs interview.

Speaking of songs about our great dark wing, I loved it when the interviewer told Mick that “Mr. Rockcock” was a reference to him. He said he was very flattered. And I have to say I found his English wit charming, the deft way he jokes. He doesn’t mind being called piggy in the middle either.

[jbrownsjr]

If Homer and jbrownsjr say Temporary One sucks, then who are we to disagree?!? They are the Christine McVie authority here! Still, of all the singer/songwriters in FM, she is the most consistent one. There are some songs by Stevie and Lindsey that I hate, but I can’t say that about any of Christine’s songs, though. Well, except for Temporary One. And maybe One More Night.

The Lead Vocal on One More Night is stellar. Not that crazy about the song.

[jbrownsjr]

To Tony: Maybe I've been acting just a little strange, and you have noticed it, too.
To Mitzo: Love WISYA, loathe Second Time
To Michele: I can confirm she was saying early on it was about Mick. The Rumours DVD-A has material as to that notion.
To BwBoy: BTM gets better every time I listen to it. Wish they closed with something else.
To Homer: If I could make you see, you've been a fool around and it's definitely not me (or Tony). Oh Daddy is brilliance.

That's All (right)

[HomerMcvie]

He's starting to sound like Stevie. He probably has a separate apartment to just dance and twirl around in too (to Oh Daddy...they will be slowww twirls)!

:laugh:


I'm BUSTED. I have an apartment just for my $tevie's shrine. It's loaded with pics of all the aging rock stars with whom I've "slept". Nag champa burning all the time. I even hired myself my own "Karen", to do all my bitching for me!

Oh, and I forgot the Lindsey dartboard. Mitzo loaned that to me!:wavey:

[Macfan4life]

I don't ever remember that being said before "the making of Rumours"(or whatever it's called- it's at my other house, so I can't look for reference).

Ar least we agree that he's a loser. Even drugged up $tevie could see that by 1987.
Common ground. We found the one thing about Oh Daddy that we agree on. I also remember being surprised to learn Oh Daddy was about Mick during the Rumours 20th anniversary VHS tape (millennials look it up). We have no reason to doubt her but the lyrics definitely seem of a love interest. Maybe she was fibbing a bit? I remember her calling him Big Daddy or Mack Daddy is more like it.

[Macfan4life]

I'm BUSTED. I have an apartment just for my $tevie's shrine. It's loaded with pics of all the aging rock stars with whom I've "slept". Nag champa burning all the time. I even hired myself my own "Karen", to do all my bitching for me!

Oh, and I forgot the Lindsey dartboard. Mitzo loaned that to me!:wavey:
Oh yeah cool! But do you have a Mrs Ropers shawl and and Aztec checkered floor to dance around on? I think not.
Haters gonna hate

[jbrownsjr]

Oh yeah cool! But do you have a Mrs Ropers shaw and and Aztec checkered floor to dance around on? I think not.
Haters gonna hate

Back to the Homer, that he was... to the Homer.. that he wassssss

[HomerMcvie]

Oh yeah cool! But do you have a Mrs Ropers shaw and and Aztec checkered floor to dance around on? I think not.
Haters gonna hate

I sent my shawl out for more bedazzling. It's in the shop until next Tuesday.

[jmn3]

I'm BUSTED. I have an apartment just for my $tevie's shrine. It's loaded with pics of all the aging rock stars with whom I've "slept". Nag champa burning all the time. I even hired myself my own "Karen", to do all my bitching for me!

Oh, and I forgot the Lindsey dartboard. Mitzo loaned that to me!:wavey:

I'm not going to lie, having your own "Karen" (wow, did that name not work out perfectly) to do all your bitching and sniping, and also to be there to tell you how wonderful you are 24/7, would be pretty sweet!

Does your apartment have a shawl only closet? Persian rug?

[jmn3]

Oh, and just so I post something at all relevant to the thread topic:

Behind the Mask is interesting. It's not terrible, but also in no way is it terribly great.

I like about 4-5 songs. The rest aren't bad but just really do nothing for me.
Love is Dangerous
In the Back of My Mind
Save Me
Behind the Mask
Freedom

It's not as dated sounding as Tango is, but despite having some duds, Tango just sounds more like what I expect from Fleetwood Mac. Some of BTM just sounds like any forgettable 80's/90's adult contemporary artist.

[aleuzzi]

Oh, and just so I post something at all relevant to the thread topic:

Behind the Mask is interesting. It's not terrible, but also in no way is it terribly great.

I like about 4-5 songs. The rest aren't bad but just really do nothing for me.
Love is Dangerous
In the Back of My Mind
Save Me
Behind the Mask
Freedom

It's not as dated sounding as Tango is, but despite having some duds, Tango just sounds more like what I expect from Fleetwood Mac. Some of BTM just sounds like any forgettable 80's/90's adult contemporary artist.

These are the same 4-5 songs I’d pick.

[aleuzzi]

You’re just mad about the spelling.


If only! “Skies” just gives me hives.

I mean, Stevie’s contribution to “Oh, Daddy” (and I can’t walk away from you, baby if I tried”) is ungrammatical, too, whereas the original line Christine had there wasn’t, but bad grammar doesn’t really bother me.

[jbrownsjr]

If only! “Skies” just gives me hives.

I mean, Stevie’s contribution to “Oh, Daddy” (and I can’t walk away from you, baby if I tried”) is ungrammatical, too, where’s the original line Christine had there wasn’t, but bad grammar doesn’t really bother me.

And I couldn't walk away from you sugar, daddy if I tried.

How's that?

[David]

I was going to add my list of songs I like from that album, but I realized fast that I couldn’t even remember the songs or the running order without looking it up online. I don’t remember all the song titles or what’s on side 1 or side 2.

If I happen to hear some of it, I tap my foot and drum on my leg a little. But I basically have no nostalgia for that album at all. It’s out of sight, out of mind for me. Unless it’s playing somewhere, I don’t even remember it.

Looking over the track list, I think I actually like “Hard Feelings” the best. The songwriter wrote “Wind Beneath My Wings,” weirdly enough. I think there’s a dearth of really catchy hooks in these songs, and nothing terribly interesting is going on with the orchestration — most of these sound as if the basic tracks were recorded live, like the early Mac albums. But unlike the early Mac albums, these songs aren’t very tough or funny — there’s no attitude. No one in the band sounds very happy or very sad or very angry. Just a bunch of multimillionaires lounging around a recording studio, earning more money. And Ladanyi doesn’t sound any more engaged than the band. This is Fleetwood Mac’s “let’s make an album because what else is there to do at the moment?” album. You can tell that absolutely no one involved in it felt any sort of artistic or emotional compulsion to “get something out” of themselves. It all just feels like an extended advertisement. The album is really soporific, which is probably why almost no one bothers to listen to it.

I’m off to listen to “Hard Feelings” again to see whether it stands up to a second listen. It’s not the Beatles, but it has a little Beatles in it.

[bwboy]

Looking over the track list, I think I actually like “Hard Feelings” the best. The songwriter wrote “Wind Beneath My Wings,” weirdly enough. I think there’s a dearth of really catchy hooks in these songs, and nothing terribly interesting is going on with the orchestration — most of these sound as if the basic tracks were recorded live, like the early Mac albums. But unlike the early Mac albums, these songs aren’t very tough or funny — there’s no attitude. No one in the band sounds very happy or very sad or very angry. Just a bunch of multimillionaires lounging around a recording studio, earning more money. And Ladanyi doesn’t sound any more engaged than the band. This is Fleetwood Mac’s “let’s make an album because what else is there to do at the moment?” album. You can tell that absolutely no one involved in it felt any sort of artistic or emotional compulsion to “get something out” of themselves. It all just feels like an extended advertisement. The album is really soporific, which is probably why almost no one bothers to listen to it.

My impression is pretty much the opposite of what yours is. While I think Stevie’s songs are the weakest, her vocals seem inspired, especially on Love is Dangerous and Freedom. She really belts out lines like “echoes of emotion and the visions of a fool” and “look at me with daggers, it won’t do you any good.” I actually feel like Stevie and Christine worked hard on BTM, perhaps to show they could be a band without Lindsey. And from Billy’s book and other sources, such as tidbits from the top 40 countdowns back in the day, this incarnation of the band genuinely had a great time touring and recording, and that does come across. I don’t think they were “eh, whatever” about recording BTM, I think they were very invested.

[aleuzzi]

And I couldn't walk away from you sugar, daddy if I tried.

How's that?

That is splendid, Brown Eyes ;)

Seriously, Sugar Daddy is the best.

[jbrownsjr]

That is splendid, Brown Eyes ;)

Seriously, Sugar Daddy is the best.

Sugar Daddy blows any song on BTM, away. Can you imagine?

[aleuzzi]

Sugar Daddy blows any song on BTM, away. Can you imagine?

I was watching the Christine McVie laserdisc concert on YouTube and marveled at how effing cool “One in a Million” sounded. That fat Hammond, Sharp’s searing guitar. Christine’s ultra cool vocals.

Man, she knows her R&B. Wish she’d do one more album of songs like “Anything is Possible” and “Forgiveness.”

[jbrownsjr]

I was watching the Christine McVie laserdisc concert on YouTube and marveled at how effing cool “One in a Million” sounded. That fat Hammond, Sharp’s searing guitar. Christine’s ultra cool vocals.

Man, she knows her R&B. Wish she’d do one more album of songs like “Anything is Possible” and “Forgiveness.”

I know. And I really love So Sincere and Bad Journey, too. That album has some wonderful gems on it. And Dan's playing is fantastic. I think Hawkins in on that album as well. But she has a Steely Dan funk to her that really hits my good feels.

[aleuzzi]

I know. And I really love So Sincere and Bad Journey, too. That album has some wonderful gems on it. And Dan's playing is fantastic. I think Hawkins in on that album as well. But she has a Steely Dan funk to her that really hits my good feels.

Her and Donald Fagin. Imagine!

[Macfan4life]

I am always amazed at the love for Hard Feelings on this board. IMHO its the worst song on the album. I dont think Billy can sing very good and its such a D list song. Its something I would expect to hear on amateur night at some bar and grill with a local band.
But to each their own.
I like most of this album more than Tango. Its more rock n roll and wow we hear that bluesy rhythm section humming in a few songs that we have not heard in a long time. Its completely unconventional which I love. No computer bass lines, no pre-programmed stuff like on Tango. Mick, John, Chris and the new guys play everything. I like the title song but I think it could have been so much better with a few refinements.
My favs are:
In The back of my mind
Save Me
Love is dangerous
Skies the limit
Freedom
When It comes to love
Do you know
I can dig when the sun goes down

Everything else is meh.

[jbrownsjr]

Her and Donald Fagin. Imagine!

Co written by McVie/Fagen

Christine McVie on piano, Donald on keys, Eric Clapton on guitar, Ferrone on drums, and Hawkins on bass. :blob1::blob2:

uhhhh I died.

[moon]

During the quarantine, one year ago, Behind The Mask and Time became my most listened albums. But I enjoyed them in a very different way, just to say that Time is better than BTM. Trust me! Haha :laugh:
There's really good songs, Love Is Dangerous, ITBOMM, Do You Know, Behind The Mask and, especially, When It Comes To Love. I really like this last one! I think it's a good one for the album, more if you think that Side 2 has not great songs...
The ending song is simply bad. Bad bad bad. I simply skip it, and trust me that it's rare for me to skip a FM song -except for some like Oh Daddy, Honey Hi, Beautiful Child, Storms...-.
Save Me and Skies The Limit are good, but I think they lost a lot putting them as the promotional songs of the album. The better job was inside!
Happy 31, Behind The Mask! :blob2: :blob2:

[SteveMacD]

Every song on BTM sounds like “All She Wants To Do Is Dance” which makes sense, since it’s the same producer.

[bwboy]

Every song on BTM sounds like “All She Wants To Do Is Dance” which makes sense, since it’s the same producer.

I don’t see that at all. Or hear it. Save Me and Skies the Limit are quintessential Fleetwood Mac, while Do You Know, As Long As You Follow, No Questions Asked, In the Back of My Mind, and Love is Dangerous showed fans where the new lineup was headed if they had continued. One album isn’t really enough to judge a new lineup completely, but the entire Behind the Mask album, plus Love Shines, Heart of Stone, and the 2 songs from the greatest hits album showed a lot of potential for this lineup- it just ended abruptly, so we’ll never know.

[jbrownsjr]

I don’t see that at all. Or hear it. Save Me and Skies the Limit are quintessential Fleetwood Mac, while Do You Know, As Long As You Follow, No Questions Asked, In the Back of My Mind, and Love is Dangerous showed fans where the new lineup was headed if they had continued. One album isn’t really enough to judge a new lineup completely, but the entire Behind the Mask album, plus Love Shines, Heart of Stone, and the 2 songs from the greatest hits album showed a lot of potential for this lineup- it just ended abruptly, so we’ll never know.

Agreed. I liked the BTM album and tour. It does sound dated in places, but it has a band sound. And like Macfan said, it has the rhythm section. Which I also loved the rhythm section on BuckVie, quintessential Fleetwood Mac. Sounded great.

[Macfan4life]

Every song on BTM sounds like “All She Wants To Do Is Dance” which makes sense, since it’s the same producer.
Wha wha wha what?
How do you hear any of that? If only.

BTM is a bluesy slow folksy rocker. The album could have used Don Henley in a few places.

[HomerMcvie]

BTM is a bluesy slow folksy rocker. The album could have used Don Henley in a few places.

Stevie has used him in at least one place. :lol:

[jbrownsjr]

Stevie has used him in at least one place. :lol:

God you ruin everything!!! :wavey:

[Macfan4life]

God you ruin everything!!! :wavey:
I dare someone to do a mash up of Don's song and any song from BTM. It wont fit.

I mean...

All she wants to do is .........the second around for us. She never looked back. She wants to party. She wants to get down. All she wants to do is....second time around...for us :)

[SteveMacD]

Put it in place of Love Is Dangerous or Stand On The Rocks.

[HomerMcvie]

God you ruin everything!!! :wavey:

I wonder who paid for the abortion? :woohoo:

[DownOnRodeo]

Put it in place of Love Is Dangerous or Stand On The Rocks.

Stand On The Rocks somehow sounds less secure and inviting than Stand On The Rock. :thumbsup:

[Macfan4life]

Stand On The Rocks somehow sounds less secure and inviting than Stand On The Rock. :thumbsup:
Especially if all she wants to do is dance dance dance :lol:

How come no one told me about this before. It sounds just like Stand on the Rocks :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng4SMEQn3LY

[SteveMacD]

I seriously don’t get how you can’t hear how the production aesthetic is nearly identical? Nearly identical effects on the drums, unnecessary and dated ancillary sounds, and even the same god awful overly thick lead slide guitar tone. You really don’t hear that?

[Macfan4life]

I seriously don’t get how you can’t hear how the production aesthetic is nearly identical? Nearly identical effects on the drums, unnecessary and dated ancillary sounds, and even the same god awful overly thick lead slide guitar tone. You really don’t hear that?
You may be on to something. When I bought the BTM cassette tape in 1990, I found myself driving with my eyes closed to the Sunset Grill to dance. I don't know how they knew I was a Yankee but threatened me not to come back.

Its all coming back to me now.

[aleuzzi]

Hated most of the album then and still hate most of it today. Only “Save Me” and the title track grab my interest. The rest depresses me.

[jbrownsjr]

The rest depresses me.

And when you do, I think about you.

[HomerMcvie]

Hated most of the album then and still hate most of it today. Only “Save Me” and the title track grab my interest. The rest depresses me.

I liked Christine's two singles, Love Is Dangerous, and Do You Know. The rest of the album didn't do much for me.

[jbrownsjr]

I liked Christine's two singles, Love Is Dangerous, and Do You Know. The rest of the album didn't do much for me.

Is it one or the other?

[aleuzzi]

I liked Christine's two singles, Love Is Dangerous, and Do You Know. The rest of the album didn't do much for me.

I simply cannot stand “Skies”—it offends me. “Do You Know” is pretty, if a bit too glossy.

[HomerMcvie]

“Do You Know” is pretty, if a bit too glossy.

I was young, and secretly in love with a classmate. I have very emotional memories of DYK.

[Macfan4life]

I was young, and secretly in love with a classmate. I have very emotional memories of DYK.
It is powerful. I would sing so loudly in the car when I was by myself. When It Comes To Love is another goodie. Chris and Billy really sounded good together.

[SteveMacD]

The running order I would have picked:

Skies The Limit
Victim of Love (https://youtu.be/EEtG8IiNfyk)
Freedom
Intuition (https://youtu.be/pYVCpSg01fA)
Save Me
In the Back of My Mind

Behind the Mask
When the Sun Goes Down
Affairs of the Heart
Do You Know
Love is Dangerous
Game of Love (https://youtu.be/V7VNU5dWjeY)


Also, there were still other better songs by Rick Vito:
Got No Home (https://youtu.be/9QZiUGrv47o)

Surrender to Me (https://youtu.be/zhr_x6KHsTs) as done here by the Byrds offshoot McGuinn Clark & Hillman.

[bwboy]

The running order I would have picked:

Skies The Limit
Victim of Love (https://youtu.be/EEtG8IiNfyk)
Freedom
Intuition (https://youtu.be/pYVCpSg01fA)
Save Me
In the Back of My Mind

Behind the Mask
When the Sun Goes Down
Affairs of the Heart
Do You Know
Love is Dangerous
Game of Love (https://youtu.be/V7VNU5dWjeY)


Also, there were still other better songs by Rick Vito:
Got No Home (https://youtu.be/9QZiUGrv47o)

Surrender to Me (https://youtu.be/zhr_x6KHsTs) as done here by the Byrds offshoot McGuinn Clark & Hillman.

Was Intuition originally recorded for BTM? I had Rick Vito’s first album after he left FM and loved Intuition. It would have fit beautifully on the BTM.

I also love Game of Love by Billy and can’t believe it didn’t make it on the album. Glad to see someone else likes it, too.

But you left off Do You Know and When It Comes to Love, two of my favorites. I suppose When It Comes to Love is a bit similar to Game of Love, though.

As far as your song order, I would switch Freedom and Love is Dangerous.

[SteveMacD]

Was Intuition originally recorded for BTM? I had Rick Vito’s first album after he left FM and loved Intuition. It would have fit beautifully on the BTM.

I also love Game of Love by Billy and can’t believe it didn’t make it on the album. Glad to see someone else likes it, too.

But you left off Do You Know and When It Comes to Love, two of my favorites. I suppose When It Comes to Love is a bit similar to Game of Love, though.

As far as your song order, I would switch Freedom and Love is Dangerous.

There’s a Stevie-less demo of Intuition that’s pretty similar.

Do You Know is there. It’s on side 2. When It Comes to Love never did much for me, but could be due to production. I put Love Is Dangerous on side two because the vibe is a little too close to Victim of Love to be on the same side. Actually, side 2 had a specific flow:

Christine
Billy/Rick
Stevie
Christine/Billy
Stevie/Rick
Billy