LIVE DELUXE (1980) — Want a new preview?

[David]

They previewed The Chain from wherever already on Spotify and Apple Music.

Assuming they preview again, what are you hankering to hear next?

[jmn3]

Give me that clean version of an '82 Hold Me! I know it won't be all pretty and might have some rough spots, but I've been waiting for something better than a bootleg of that song live for decades!

[jbrownsjr]

Give me that clean version of an '82 Hold Me! I know it won't be all pretty and might have some rough spots, but I've been waiting for something better than a bootleg of that song live for decades!

Her solo tour version was so much better. I wonder which night they are going to use. I agree, I want to hear this. She really laid into the piano on this tune.

[David]

I voted What Makes You Think and Think About. Both are from my favorite month of Mac touring ever and would be immensely gratifying, suffusing my afternoons with a roseate hue and the redolent scent of tea tree and Lebanese cedar.

[Andyleo]

The running times for Hold Me and Gold Dust Woman are on iTunes, so pretty sure it'll be one of those, but I would much prefer Think About Me to be previewed next.

[Macfan4life]

For some reason everyone flames the Mobile, AL 1980 Think About Me saying it was mailed in.

Interesting to hear the Kansas City version but I assume it will be similiar.

[Netter75]

I voted for:

Brown Eyes: The song I'm waiting for the most, I love every bootleg of this song I've heard from both the 1982 tour and the 1987-1988 tour. I'm not sure what provoked them to play it on both tours (and NOT the Tusk tour, oddly) as I'm sure it was a bathroom break song at the time, but it sounds SUBLIME and I can't wait to hear a cleaned up version of it.

Hold Me: Same reasons as everyone else, I'm looking forward to hearing a cleaned up version of this one live. I know not everyone is a big fan of this rendition ("HOLLLLLLLD MEEE YEAUUUHHH") but I can hear a fun little rock song in the bootlegs and it'll be interesting to see if a remix of the vocals will do it good.

Think About Me: I've only ever heard one live performance of this song from the Tusk tour and I thought it sounded horrible, so my fingers are crossed that this one sounds better and we can get a good live version of this song!

[jmn3]

I voted for:

Brown Eyes: The song I'm waiting for the most, I love every bootleg of this song I've heard from both the 1982 tour and the 1987-1988 tour. I'm not sure what provoked them to play it on both tours (and NOT the Tusk tour, oddly) as I'm sure it was a bathroom break song at the time, but it sounds SUBLIME and I can't wait to hear a cleaned up version of it.

Hold Me: Same reasons as everyone else, I'm looking forward to hearing a cleaned up version of this one live. I know not everyone is a big fan of this rendition ("HOLLLLLLLD MEEE YEAUUUHHH") but I can hear a fun little rock song in the bootlegs and it'll be interesting to see if a remix of the vocals will do it good.

Think About Me: I've only ever heard one live performance of this song from the Tusk tour and I thought it sounded horrible, so my fingers are crossed that this one sounds better and we can get a good live version of this song!


Brown Eyes definitely is an interesting setlist choice for a band not know for taking too many risks. Especially by 1982, the set had gotten pretty well established and pulling out Brown Eyes from the previous album had to be something out of left field.

I like the HOLD ME HOLD ME YEAHHHHH approach. It was rough and lacked a lot of the polish that the studio version had. But I’m okay with that - I hate how everything live became polished and increasingly an attempt at recreating the studio version of a song.

[HomerMcvie]

I like the HOLD ME HOLD ME YEAHHHHH approach. It was rough and lacked a lot of the polish that the studio version had. But I’m okay with that - I hate how everything live became polished and increasingly an attempt at recreating the studio version of a song.

I LOVED Hold Me live. Now, realize that I'm 16, with the best tickets I'd ever had(5th row center), at the height of my fandom.....with Lindsey SCREAMING, "why don't you come on and a" Hold Me. The band of my life, screaming a song in my face!!! I was in heaven!

[David]

Brown Eyes: The song I'm waiting for the most, I love every bootleg of this song I've heard from both the 1982 tour and the 1987-1988 tour. I'm not sure what provoked them to play it on both tours (and NOT the Tusk tour, oddly) as I'm sure it was a bathroom break song at the time, but it sounds SUBLIME and I can't wait to hear a cleaned up version of it.
Fleetwood rehearsed it for the 1979 tour but never played it, I guess. Here is a 1979 rehearsal of it: https://gofile.io/d/TG18kg

Think About Me: I've only ever heard one live performance of this song from the Tusk tour and I thought it sounded horrible, so my fingers are crossed that this one sounds better and we can get a good live version of this song!
Fleetwood rehearsed this too in 1979, but apparently never added it to the set until August 1980. Rehearsal here: https://gofile.io/d/TqIvbf

[aleuzzi]

Can’t wait to hear the version of Think About Me. I’ve always loved the tour rehearsal of it, and I’m one of the few who actually love the one available live version. But I suspect this unearthed version will have a stronger vocal.

[HomerMcvie]

Can’t wait to hear the version of Think About Me. I’ve always loved the tour rehearsal of it, and I’m one of the few who actually love the one available live version. But I suspect this unearthed version will have a stronger vocal.
I saved both to my hard drive. TAM has a false start, where they play for maybe 30 seconds, then restart the song.

[Netter75]

Fleetwood rehearsed it for the 1979 tour but never played it, I guess. Here is a 1979 rehearsal of it: https://gofile.io/d/TG18kg


Fleetwood rehearsed this too in 1979, but apparently never added it to the set until August 1980. Rehearsal here: https://gofile.io/d/TqIvbf

Nice! Thanks for sharing, I hadn't heard these before.

[David]

I saved both to my hard drive. TAM has a false start, where they play for maybe 30 seconds, then restart the song.
That’s the first night (Aug 31) at the Hollywood Bowl. But there is actually another — Mobile AL soundboard. Have you guys heard that one too?

[HomerMcvie]

That’s the first night (Aug 31) at the Hollywood Bowl. But there is actually another — Mobile AL soundboard. Have you guys heard that one too?
No.
I wasn't lucky enough to be their lighting guy...:p

[David]

No.
I wasn't lucky enough to be their lighting guy...:p
I am just a fan!

Here is Think About Me from Mobile AL Aug 11. People say Think About Me was loosie goosie in August and it was, but it was also an energetic instrumental rave-up. It also captures the band’s vocal recklessness at that point in the long tour.

https://gofile.io/d/sW2wnC

[Ulpian]

I see they’ve put GDW up now as the next sample track... quite a nice version I thought although Stevie gets the lyrics wrong to start.

[David]

I see they’ve put GDW up now as the next sample track... quite a nice version I thought although Stevie gets the lyrics wrong to start.
Thanks for the alert, Mark! Great gritty vocal by Stevie and nice clear sound with a good bottom end. (It’s important that Stevie have a great bottom end.)

Does anyone have the 8.29.77 audience recording handy (recorded by Steve Denison) to verify the date and locale of the label? Plus, this cut seems to have the normal outro shortened somewhat (with Christine’s pianet soaked in flanger). Was that the performance or an album edit?

[mylittledemon]

They previewed The Chain from wherever already on Spotify and Apple Music.



You know, after listening to it... I'm almost positive it's from the Mirage tour, not from 1980.

[jmn3]

You know, after listening to it... I'm almost positive it's from the Mirage tour, not from 1980.

Oh for sure, we talked about this on the other thread for the Deluxe release. It’s from the other night at The Forum from the Mirage Video. Lindsey’s guitar and the vocals are a dead giveaway. We have a great version of The Chain on the Tusk deluxe from 1980 so I am pretty happy to get a cleaned up 1982 version!

[mylittledemon]

It’s from the other night at The Forum from the Mirage Video.

Haha, oh I'm always late to the party. Looks like they got the date wrong on Spotify (but I'm guessing that's WBs fault). :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

Listened to the new "GDW Live" release in NY on the subway, Sunday. What a wonderful version. I love the keys, especially in the beginning.

[jmn3]

Listened to the new "GDW Live" release in NY on the subway, Sunday. What a wonderful version. I love the keys, especially in the beginning.

I thought that beginning was just sublime. Chris’s playing really set the mood for the song. It was a real treat to hear!

[jmn3]

Haha, oh I'm always late to the party. Looks like they got the date wrong on Spotify (but I'm guessing that's WBs fault). :laugh:

No worries! I’m sure for 99.9% of people who listen to that will just go along with it being from 1980 with no questions. But keen ears around these parts would pick up on it immediately! It’s wrong on Apple Music too so I’m blaming WB as well.

[jbrownsjr]

I thought that beginning was just sublime. Chris’s playing really set the mood for the song. It was a real treat to hear!

I really love the sounds she uses.

[mylittledemon]

No worries! I’m sure for 99.9% of people who listen to that will just go along with it being from 1980 with no questions.

Isn't that some form of heresy? :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

Isn't that some form of heresy? :laugh:

The word is blasphemy!! :laugh:

[mylittledemon]

The word is blasphemy!! :laugh:

https://i.imgur.com/y1fmA5G.gif

:lol:

[jbrownsjr]

https://i.imgur.com/y1fmA5G.gif

:lol:

What's great is that you can't fool The Ledge. We know Mirage live sounds when we hear them.

[vivfox]

GDW Stevie gets the lyrics wrong to start.
:lol:
True dat

[David]

:lol:
True dat
Stevie gets so wrapped up in the moment that she can’t remember the wrap she’s wearing at the moment.

[snroxman]

re:What's great is that you can't fool The Ledge. We know Mirage live sounds when we hear them.

Yep!!!!

"Hold Me" as it was performed in 1982 is GOLD.

[Ulpian]

Hold Me is up!

I like it :blob1::blob1::blob1:

[Wdm6789]

Hold Me sounds great!

I always complain about this, but I really hate the added “yeahhh”

They could have just sang “hold me... hold meeEEEE” the “yeahhhh” is totally unnecessary.

[blinker12]

Great energy in this version and Christine hits the high harmonies well! Best live “Hold Me” I’ve heard.

[aleuzzi]

That’s a really strong version. I’m hoping TAM turns out as good!

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, BuckVie perfection! What a nice solo at the end. I wish he would have extended that solo another 30 seconds. Great piano as well. :blob2:

[jmn3]

Hold Me is fantastic! So happy to finally get a cleaned up live version of one of my favorite Mac songs.

I think the yeahhhhh's work on this song. One of the chief complaints I see on this board about the post-1982 live sound of this band is the band's insistence on sticking to studio arrangements, or as close to as possible. To me, that's what makes this one stick out - who knows what the reason was. Maybe they tried it and couldn't make it sound right with just the three voices. I know Chris did the drawn out meeee's on her solo tour and the 2017-19 versions did the same, but maybe it just didn't sound right in rehearsals with just the three of them. Either way, this is what I love about the old Mac. Each tour had a unique sound, and so many songs had unique arrangements that not only differed from their studio parent, but also in many cases from prior tours.

How did Hold Me go into hiding for so long? I don't understand how it didn't get played on the 1987-88 tour in particular, not to mention during The Dance or On With the Show tours.

Also, I just love Lindsey's love for this song before and after... and something about Chris's "thanks LB" at the very beginning just put a smile on my face.

[jmn3]

Wow, BuckVie perfection! What a nice solo at the end. I wish he would have extended that solo another 30 seconds. Great piano as well. :blob2:

If it was the Tusk Tour that solo would have gone on another minute for sure! It seems like a lot of solos or would-be solos were starting to get shrunk down in length just a tad on Mirage as they were adding more songs to the set.

[UnwindedDreams]

How did Hold Me go into hiding for so long? I don't understand how it didn't get played on the 1987-88 tour in particular, not to mention during The Dance or On With the Show tours.

For Dance and OWTS, I thought it was either Lindsey wasn't up to shredding to close the song OR the song kind of isolates Stevie. With Don't Stop and World Turning, all three sing the last verses.
When Chris did Hold Me in 2018, I think it was done to show that she and Neil had a musical fellowship. She coulda said I wrote this with Neil in 1982 that's how cute they were!

[jmn3]

For Dance and OWTS, I thought it was either Lindsey wasn't up to shredding to close the song OR the song kind of isolates Stevie. With Don't Stop and World Turning, all three sing the last verses.
When Chris did Hold Me in 2018, I think it was done to show that she and Neil had a musical fellowship. She coulda said I wrote this with Neil in 1982 that's how cute they were!

Since it was played on BuckVie and in 2018, I can’t imagine it would’ve been Lindsey unwilling to play it. I know they have to figure out a balance among 3 songwriters and thus that limits the setlist but dropping Hold Me for 30 years when it was one of their biggest hits is just odd. I actually like Oh Daddy but turf that off the Dance setlist and add Hold Me instead. Or drop that boring Over My Head on the DVD for Hold Me.

[UnwindedDreams]

Has anyone been listening to Sirius Deep Tracks debut a song each night from "LIVE" at 7pm EST?

I heard Second Hand News tonight and enjoyed it. What was last night (Monday April 5)'s song?

[jbrownsjr]

Has anyone been listening to Sirius Deep Tracks debut a song each night from "LIVE" at 7pm EST?

I heard Second Hand News tonight and enjoyed it. What was last night (Monday April 5)'s song?

I heard the ad. That's about it. :(

[UnwindedDreams]

I wonder if there will be interviews with band members like the other reissues have.

[soul_drifter333]

Mine has shipped :blob2:

[soul_drifter333]

I was in a local record store and they had already put it out so I couldn't resist picking up a copy even though I had already ordered a copy from Rhino. Hey I was right in my face! :lol: Like the other box sets it is high quality and super nice. The vinyl and packaging are heavy duty with a booklet with some nice pics I haven't seen before. My turntable is in storage so I can't listen to the vinyl yet but I'm currently enjoying the CDs. Really nice! I would share pics but I don't know to post them here anymore.

[UnwindedDreams]

I was in a local record store and they had already put it out so I couldn't resist picking up a copy even though I had already ordered a copy from Rhino. Hey I was right in my face! :lol: Like the other box sets it is high quality and super nice. The vinyl and packaging are heavy duty with a booklet with some nice pics I haven't seen before. My turntable is in storage so I can't listen to the vinyl yet but I'm currently enjoying the CDs. Really nice! I would share pics but I don't know to post them here anymore.
That is Amazing! Congratulations!
Are there any quotes from Stevie or Christine in the booklet?

[soul_drifter333]

That is Amazing! Congratulations!
Are there any quotes from Stevie or Christine in the booklet?

Unfortunately not. I really enjoyed those interviews from the Tusk deluxe edition. The booklet has text by David Wild, new pics, and tour dates. I don't think the band had a lot to do with this reissue. Listening to the 3rd CD and it sounds amazing. The sound is great and it's mixed in a way that it sounds like one show and not different performances. Think About Me and What Makes You Think are the highlights so far.

[UnwindedDreams]

Unfortunately not. I really enjoyed those interviews from the Tusk deluxe edition. The booklet has text by David Wild, new pics, and tour dates. I don't think the band had a lot to do with this reissue. Listening to the 3rd CD and it sounds amazing. The sound is great and it's mixed in a way that it sounds like one show and not different performances. Think About Me and What Makes You Think are the highlights so far.

Thank you. Yes, Stevie and Lindsey participated in the reissue interviews for Rumours, Mirage, and Tango. Oh well.

How's Angel?!

[soul_drifter333]

Thank you. Yes, Stevie and Lindsey participated in the reissue interviews for Rumours, Mirage, and Tango. Oh well.

How's Angel?!

It's nice and seems to speed up some when Lindsey comes in to sing harmony. A little raw but not as much as the live performances on the Tusk reissue live performances. I prefer the live performances to be less polished then the studio performances. The mastering is great throughout the whole set.

[David]

The booklet has text by David Wild, new pics, and tour dates.Always David Wild! Tour dates for all tours?

I don't think the band had a lot to do with this reissue.I doubt they have anything to do with it.

Listening to the 3rd CD and it sounds amazing. The sound is great and it's mixed in a way that it sounds like one show and not different performances. Think About Me and What Makes You Think are the highlights so far.Could you verify that the rest of the cuts are from the dates advertised?

[BLY]

What about Fireflies- expanded version on disc 3?

[jbrownsjr]

I was in a local record store and they had already put it out so I couldn't resist picking up a copy even though I had already ordered a copy from Rhino. Hey I was right in my face! :lol: Like the other box sets it is high quality and super nice. The vinyl and packaging are heavy duty with a booklet with some nice pics I haven't seen before. My turntable is in storage so I can't listen to the vinyl yet but I'm currently enjoying the CDs. Really nice! I would share pics but I don't know to post them here anymore.

I would have done the same thing. Bought it and gifted the other.

[UnwindedDreams]

It's nice and seems to speed up some when Lindsey comes in to sing harmony. A little raw but not as much as the live performances on the Tusk reissue live performances. I prefer the live performances to be less polished then the studio performances. The mastering is great throughout the whole set.
Thank you again so much for taking the time to share your experience with all of us.
I love the experience of picking up a record on the release day.
Of course, you scored BIG TIME by getting it early.
Did it seem like they had a decent amount of copies?

[soul_drifter333]

What about Fireflies- expanded version on disc 3?

I never had the 12" single for Fireflies but I had heard it on YouTube or a bootleg. It's great. I always like the song and the mastering on all the discs is amazing. Vocals throughout all the discs are so clear, I almost forgot how good the band sounded live vocally when they were still in their prime. I don't think there are any overdubs, so it's a little raw and real sounding.

Stevie's vocals on SOTM are really clear and out front. I couldn't really tell what she was mumbling at the end but it was something different than I had heard before.

Tusk gets kinda crazy after the drum break when it speeds up and then Lindsey plays a great solo and Stevie is doing some weird vocals. One of the best version of the song that I think I've heard so far.

I'm very pleased and have had a huge smile on my face all day.

[soul_drifter333]

Thank you again so much for taking the time to share your experience with all of us.
I love the experience of picking up a record on the release day.
Of course, you scored BIG TIME by getting it early.
Did it seem like they had a decent amount of copies?

This was a small independent store so they only had 2 copies. I think that is how they got away with putting it out early. I was off work today and tomorrow so I had time to really listen to it.

[UnwindedDreams]

This was a small independent store so they only had 2 copies. I think that is how they got away with putting it out early. I was off work today and tomorrow so I had time to really listen to it.
Well you were off work on the perfect days!

I guess the safest bet to find this release on Friday would be in a Barnes and Noble

[Netter75]

Good to hear positive things about the release!

So so excited to finally get some good, cleaned up versions of tracks like Second Hand News, Think About Me and Brown Eyes on Spotify (is it weird that Brown Eyes has me most excited? That song is amazing). Curious to see how these takes of Blue Letter, Angel, Tusk and SOTM compare with the others we have as well.

It's starting to get to the point where there's at least one officially released recording for most every song they ever did live! A tango/BTM relese with Seven Wonders, Little Lies, Isn't It Midnight, Save Me, In the Back of My Mind, Love is Dangerous, and Stand on the Rock would complete it for me.

Counting down to Thursday at 11:59 :]

[jbrownsjr]

Is it today? Or at midnight?

[On Ice]

Well jbrown some may have it already because isn't it midnight on the other side of the world already? :sorry:

[bwboy]

Good to hear positive things about the release!

It's starting to get to the point where there's at least one officially released recording for most every song they ever did live! A tango/BTM relese with Seven Wonders, Little Lies, Isn't It Midnight, Save Me, In the Back of My Mind, Love is Dangerous, and Stand on the Rock would complete it for me.

Amen! I would so love it if this happened. If we can’t get a video release of their tour, at least an audio combining the two tours.

[Street_Dreamer]

Currently listening to and enjoying disc one. Incidentally, I was browsing on Amazon and noticed the deluxe edition of Tusk is going for nearly $1,000. Yeesh!!!

[UnwindedDreams]

What does everyone think of the demos?