View Full Version : Songs that would have been cool to hear on The Dance
Wdm6789
02-20-2021, 10:37 AM
Stevie:
Sara
That’s Alright
Christine:
Hold Me
Little Lies
Over & Over
Lindsey:
Save Me a Place
Eyes of the World
Not That Funny
SteveMacD
02-20-2021, 11:02 AM
Stevie:
Twisted
Straight Back
Christine:
Little Lies
Think About Me
Never Forget
Isn’t It Midnight
Lindsey:
Second Hand News
Caroline
Book of Love
Villavic
02-20-2021, 12:14 PM
Sara
Hold Me
Love in Store
Tango in the Night
Isn't it Midnight
Macfan4life
02-20-2021, 01:57 PM
At a minimum with Lindsey back on guitar and vocals: Isn't It Midnight and Little Lies.
Sara would have been earth shattering since it had not been done for such a long time.
Think About Me would have been a good Tusk song. An acoustic set of Landslide and Save Me a Place.
Dig even deeper for Sugar Daddy instead of Over My Head.
For the love of God NO STAND BACK :eek: and no Not That Funny (unless Christine wants to bring out her **bench** aka upright piano again)
I will be flamed for saying they should have dropped Farmers Daughter for an equally great trio harmonization of Love In Store
However, no matter what. Oh Daddy stays in the set. As Stevie said, as magic as it ever got on the stage that tour, was this song.
Isn't It Midnight has been performed on 3 Fleetwood Mac world tours yet NEVER with Lindsey Buckingham. This is sacrilegious and impossible to believe. We should sue for damages.
HomerMcvie
02-20-2021, 02:17 PM
Think About Me should be played on every tour, every day. Even after they're dead. Holograms can play it. Same with Hold Me.
Farmer's Daughter never blew my skirt up, either. It's okay...
I'd KILL for Daddy. SUGAR DADDY. I LOVE that f*cking song. I've been working on the piano parts for it the past week(for whatever reason I dug out the White album, and began playing along). It's actually got a weird chord progression in places. "All that I want, is someone to take care of me" is A, E, Bm F#m which is pretty weird.:wavey:
stevierocks87
02-20-2021, 02:24 PM
I've always thought Twisted would have been PERFECT for The Dance- with the same intensity as the soundtrack version it could have been THE highlight of the concert.
Sara would also have been stunning. And yes Love in Store!
And TANGO IN THE NIGHT, when Lindsey's voice could have still handled the TANGOOOOOOOO
Macfan4life
02-20-2021, 02:25 PM
Think About Me should be played on every tour, every day. Even after they're dead. Holograms can play it. Same with Hold Me.
Farmer's Daughter never blew my skirt up, either. It's okay...
I'd KILL for Daddy. SUGAR DADDY. I LOVE that f*cking song. I've been working on the piano parts for it the past week(for whatever reason I dug out the White album, and began playing along). It's actually got a weird chord progression in places. "All that I want, is someone to take care of me" is A, E, Bm F#m which is pretty weird.:wavey:
Sugar Daddy is probably the only song on the White album that could have been on Heroes or any early Mac album because it sounds like those early bluesy Mac albums. And the incredible part is Lindsey's guitar solo and touches he masks himself of that era quite nicely yet it has the refreshment of Lindsey's picking. So maybe only the guitar solo would stand out yet its the icing on the cake for the song.
If I ever won a 500 million Powerball lottery, I will pay Christine a cool 10 million for a concert and this will definitely be in the set. Better yet, I will have her personally dedicate Oh Daddy to you (the guy who could not reach to give her flowers during BuckVie).
HomerMcvie
02-20-2021, 02:33 PM
Sugar Daddy is probably the only song on the White album that could have been on Heroes or any early Mac album because it sounds like those early bluesy Mac albums. And the incredible part is Lindsey's guitar solo and touches he masks himself of that era quite nicely yet it has the refreshment of Lindsey's picking. So maybe only the guitar solo would stand out yet its the icing on the cake for the song.
If I ever won a 500 million Powerball lottery, I will pay Christine a cool 10 million for a concert and this will definitely be in the set. Better yet, I will have her personally dedicate Oh Daddy to you (the guy who could not reach to give her flowers during BuckVie).
It's such a great song. It's so weird that they never embraced it. It's funky!
Oh Daddy just for me? Well, even during a Christine show, I'd have to take a beer pee break some time!:p
When you win the lottery, I hope you invite me to the show.
And my roses for Christine, I was SO CLOSE to touching her toes. The stage in Nashville was so high, at least 5 feet. Armpit level for me. I was pushing them as far as I could! Like many aspects of my life, I came up a couple of inches short!:lol:
UnwindedDreams
02-20-2021, 02:42 PM
I've always thought Twisted would have been PERFECT for The Dance- with the same intensity as the soundtrack version it could have been THE highlight of the concert.
Christine would've burnt it up too. Her voice on this would've been glorious. Stevie sang this as a duet during her 1996 show. Was it with Al? Carlos?
For The Dance: I say Not That Funny, Ricky, Seven Wonders, and I Know I'm Not Wrong, and When I See You Again to close the show.
bwboy
02-20-2021, 03:41 PM
Sara
Hold Me
Love in Store
Tango in the Night
Isn't it Midnight
I get the feeling Lindsey doesn’t care for Isn’t It Midnight, since FM never performed it when Lindsey was touring with them. Buck/Vie also didn’t perform it.
The Dance, being a reunion of the Rumours lineup, was pretty spot on with the setlist. If they had skipped the 4 new songs, they could have added Sara, Little Lies, and Second Hand News or Eyes of the World. And if they had skipped Stand Back and Go Insane, they could have added 2 more classic FM songs, or better yet, 2 more deep cuts, like Tango in the Night or That’s Alright.
I love the Farmer’s Daughter because of the the way they performed it.
Macfan4life
02-20-2021, 05:16 PM
I get the feeling Lindsey doesn’t care for Isn’t It Midnight, since FM never performed it when Lindsey was touring with them. Buck/Vie also didn’t perform it.
The Dance, being a reunion of the Rumours lineup, was pretty spot on with the setlist. If they had skipped the 4 new songs, they could have added Sara, Little Lies, and Second Hand News or Eyes of the World. And if they had skipped Stand Back and Go Insane, they could have added 2 more classic FM songs, or better yet, 2 more deep cuts, like Tango in the Night or That’s Alright.
I love the Farmer’s Daughter because of the the way they performed it.
Or if they just dropped Not That Funny, they could have added 5 more songs :eek:
Wdm6789
02-20-2021, 05:19 PM
At a minimum with Lindsey back on guitar and vocals: Isn't It Midnight and Little Lies.
Sara would have been earth shattering since it had not been done for such a long time.
Think About Me would have been a good Tusk song. An acoustic set of Landslide and Save Me a Place.
Dig even deeper for Sugar Daddy instead of Over My Head.
For the love of God NO STAND BACK :eek: and no Not That Funny (unless Christine wants to bring out her **bench** aka upright piano again)
I will be flamed for saying they should have dropped Farmers Daughter for an equally great trio harmonization of Love In Store
However, no matter what. Oh Daddy stays in the set. As Stevie said, as magic as it ever got on the stage that tour, was this song.
Isn't It Midnight has been performed on 3 Fleetwood Mac world tours yet NEVER with Lindsey Buckingham. This is sacrilegious and impossible to believe. We should sue for damages.
I love live Sara. I love the rawness of the live versions from 1979-1982. Since The Dance was very cleaned up and polished sounding, I would have loved to hear what Sara could have sounded like. Also Hold Me. While Sara is one of those songs that sounds equally amazing on the album and live, Hold Me live in 1982 just did not measure up to the album version. I would have loved to hear a very polished/fine tuned live Hold Me on the Dance. (Hopefully they would have sang Hold Me..Hold meeeEEEE instead of Hold Me..Hold Me yeahhh. I hated the yeahhh in the 1982 live version.)
Ulpian
02-21-2021, 06:57 AM
This thread made me so nostalgic for The Dance.
Really hope a deluxe version hits, with the full DVD set list and audio from the tour.
FWIW, I’d have loved to have heard Little Lies on that tour.
Macfan4life
02-21-2021, 07:54 AM
This thread made me so nostalgic for The Dance.
Really hope a deluxe version hits, with the full DVD set list and audio from the tour.
FWIW, I’d have loved to have heard Little Lies on that tour.
I was in shock the Mac did not play Little Lies in 1997 with Lindsey. It was their biggest hit off Tango and uses Lindsey's vocals. I suppose they wanted a song to get Chris out from behind the keyboards and went with Everywhere.
We had to wait another 17 years to hear Little Lies with Lindsey :eek:
They had so much material that I wish they would have scrapped, Stand Back, Go Insane, NTF, and Farmers Daughter for more Mac classics
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 11:54 AM
They had so much material that I wish they would have scrapped, Stand Back, Go Insane, NTF, and Farmers Daughter for more Mac classics
Big Love SOLO. Drop it like a hot POS. Better yet, do it with the band!
But a beer drinker does need a pee break, and Big Love was my pee song for the last two tours I saw. So I guess they could replace it with Silver Girl.;)
Macfan4life
02-21-2021, 12:04 PM
Big Love SOLO. Drop it like a hot POS. Better yet, do it with the band!
But a beer drinker does need a pee break, and Big Love was my pee song for the last two tours I saw. So I guess they could replace it with Silver Girl.;)
Or you could take a big dump if they do Oh Daddy and Silver Girl back to back :eek:
I am still in disbelief that it will be 24 years since The Dance was recorded/released. That's just not right!
Little Lies
Sara
Second Hand News (on the album, I know it was added to the setlist at the second concert of the tour)
Isn't it Midnight
Hold Me
Sisters of the Moon
I Don't Want to Know
Never Going Back Again
Monday Morning
Of course everything Rumours is overplayed, but at that time, I think doing the entire album as part of The Dance would have been very interesting. Add in the two songs they missed, with the addition of Silver Springs, and do it as either the first or second half of the show.
A few other thoughts:
*I thought I've read here before that they did rehearse Little Lies but apparently it didn't work out right or they couldn't fit it in?
*Do we have any idea what songs were rehearsed aside from what ended up on stage at Burbank or during the tour?
*I could live without most of the new songs but I suppose they felt (just like Eagles did with Hell Freezes Over) that they needed some new material at the time
*Even so, cut My Little Demon (Bleed to Love Her is one of my favorites) and Sweet Girl and replace with Twisted - they still each get a new song
*That boring version of Over My Head on the DVD could go away forever
*Not That Funny is just not that good - and some of those versions during the tour went way too long and took up way too much time
*I don't get why we got Go Insane? Lindsey already had Big Love with the whole one man and a guitar thing going on. And at the time, it wasn't worn out yet. But why did we need both of those songs back to back?
*Speaking of solo, STAND BACK. How'd that come to be? I vaguely recall during that 4 part MTV interview that is on YouTube that (was it Kurt Loder?) Stevie was asked about her solo material and she said no it wasn't being considered for the set. So at some point before opening night, somebody's mind was changed. Were they planning another of her Mac songs that just didn't work out?
Or if they just dropped Not That Funny, they could have added 5 more songs :eek:
But then Mick wouldn't have had the opportunity to get to the front of the stage and feel himself up? :eek:
And TANGO IN THE NIGHT, when Lindsey's voice could have still handled the TANGOOOOOOOO
So in an alternative reality, I feel like a Tango in the Night tour with Lindsey in 1987 would have been incredible if the show opened with the song Tango in the Night.
Macfan4life
02-21-2021, 12:31 PM
But then Mick wouldn't have had the opportunity to get to the front of the stage and feel himself up? :eek:
Stevie probably did a quarter ounce every night during that song :eek:
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 12:41 PM
Or you could take a big dump if they do Oh Daddy and Silver Girl back to back :eek:
:mad::mad::mad:
What kind of TRASH do you think I am?
I wouldn't go #2 in a public restroom for 10K!:wavey::lol::wavey:
Silver Girl does make stuff want to come out the top end, though.
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 12:43 PM
But then Mick wouldn't have had the opportunity to get to the front of the stage and feel himself up? :eek:
I've always wondered if ANY audience member actually enjoyed Mick's vesturbation solo. "Hey, Imma celebrity, too!"
As we all saw with his phenomenal solo success!:lol:
UnwindedDreams
02-21-2021, 12:49 PM
:mad::mad::mad:
What kind of TRASH do you think I am?
I wouldn't go #2 in a public restroom for 10K!:wavey::lol::wavey:
Who does #2 at a Fleetwood Mac show? Other than Mick at 2015 Lincoln Nebraska:laugh:
Macfan4life
02-21-2021, 12:58 PM
:mad::mad::mad:
What kind of TRASH do you think I am?
I wouldn't go #2 in a public restroom for 10K!:wavey::lol::wavey:
Silver Girl does make stuff want to come out the top end, though.
I thought that was the norm for people from Indiana
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 01:01 PM
I thought that was the norm for people from Indiana
At least we speak proper English here. Don't make me go all red on you....wait, what does that mean again?:lol:
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 01:02 PM
Who does #2 at a Fleetwood Mac show? Other than Mick at 2015 Lincoln Nebraska:laugh:
Speaking of which, who else thinks Mick is probably a nasty, dirty person? Probably thinks his own BO smells good.
UnwindedDreams
02-21-2021, 01:07 PM
Speaking of which, who else thinks Mick is probably a nasty, dirty person? Probably thinks his own BO smells good.
You didn't do the 2013 Meet and Greet where you can get your picture taken on his commode?!
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 01:08 PM
You didn't do the 2013 Meet and Greet where you can get your picture taken on his commode?!
No, I missed that one! Thank god!!!! I don't want to get anywhere near Mick's commode! :lol:
Macfan4life
02-21-2021, 02:10 PM
No, I missed that one! Thank god!!!! I don't want to get anywhere near Mick's commode! :lol:
But were you not interested in him selling his feces in a jar in another thread hoping for appreciation in 20 years time?
Ulpian
02-21-2021, 02:21 PM
I am still in disbelief that it will be 24 years since The Dance was recorded/released. That's just not right!
Little Lies
Sara
Second Hand News (on the album, I know it was added to the setlist at the second concert of the tour)
Isn't it Midnight
Hold Me
Sisters of the Moon
I Don't Want to Know
Never Going Back Again
Monday Morning
Of course everything Rumours is overplayed, but at that time, I think doing the entire album as part of The Dance would have been very interesting. Add in the two songs they missed, with the addition of Silver Springs, and do it as either the first or second half of the show.
A few other thoughts:
*I thought I've read here before that they did rehearse Little Lies but apparently it didn't work out right or they couldn't fit it in?
*Do we have any idea what songs were rehearsed aside from what ended up on stage at Burbank or during the tour?
*I could live without most of the new songs but I suppose they felt (just like Eagles did with Hell Freezes Over) that they needed some new material at the time
*Even so, cut My Little Demon (Bleed to Love Her is one of my favorites) and Sweet Girl and replace with Twisted - they still each get a new song
*That boring version of Over My Head on the DVD could go away forever
*Not That Funny is just not that good - and some of those versions during the tour went way too long and took up way too much time
*I don't get why we got Go Insane? Lindsey already had Big Love with the whole one man and a guitar thing going on. And at the time, it wasn't worn out yet. But why did we need both of those songs back to back?
*Speaking of solo, STAND BACK. How'd that come to be? I vaguely recall during that 4 part MTV interview that is on YouTube that (was it Kurt Loder?) Stevie was asked about her solo material and she said no it wasn't being considered for the set. So at some point before opening night, somebody's mind was changed. Were they planning another of her Mac songs that just didn't work out?
You’re right that there was an interview at the time when I recall Christine saying they tried Little Lies and it didn’t work, or something like that.
I thought I remembered reading that they rehearsed Brown Eyes.
There’s definitely a thread on here from aeons ago saying what they played together before the concert. I will see if I can find out.
** what do you know... apparently years ago I started a thread! http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=52106
SteveMacD
02-21-2021, 04:07 PM
*I don't get why we got Go Insane? Lindsey already had Big Love with the whole one man and a guitar thing going on. And at the time, it wasn't worn out yet. But why did we need both of those songs back to back?
I don’t have an answer, but that’s how he opened his 1993 solo shows.
*Speaking of solo, STAND BACK. How'd that come to be? I vaguely recall during that 4 part MTV interview that is on YouTube that (was it Kurt Loder?) Stevie was asked about her solo material and she said no it wasn't being considered for the set. So at some point before opening night, somebody's mind was changed. Were they planning another of her Mac songs that just didn't work out?
I just assumed it was because they needed something more uptempo towards the end of the set.
** what do you know... apparently years ago I started a thread! http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=52106
Lordy did you send me down a few wormholes with that link. Within that 2013 post is a reference to a 2004 post which I had to do a little searching to get to, which then had a reference to an alt.music.fleetwood-mac post from 1997. After taking a nap, that was about a perfect task for a Sunday during a pandemic!
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 05:24 PM
Lordy did you send me down a few wormholes with that link. Within that 2013 post is a reference to a 2004 post which I had to do a little searching to get to, which then had a reference to an alt.music.fleetwood-mac post from 1997. After taking a nap, that was about a perfect task for a Sunday during a pandemic!
Can you still find stuff on Usenet? Especially from 24 years ago?
I mean, I know Usenet still exists(I think, lol), but most ISPs stopped carrying it as a freebie, years ago. I can't remember when it disappeared from mine, but I wanna say it was the early 2000's.
Can you still find stuff on Usenet? Especially from 24 years ago?
I mean, I know Usenet still exists(I think, lol), but most ISPs stopped carrying it as a freebie, years ago. I can't remember when it disappeared from mine, but I wanna say it was the early 2000's.
I just go through Google groups. I don't know exactly what happened but I think they took over all those groups and the old posts are still there. Here's one of the posts I found while perusing today..
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.music.fleetwood-mac/c/KHwhUEZqsMY/m/u5KLZ4CKPAwJ
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 06:51 PM
I just go through Google groups. I don't know exactly what happened but I think they took over all those groups and the old posts are still there. Here's one of the posts I found while perusing today..
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.music.fleetwood-mac/c/KHwhUEZqsMY/m/u5KLZ4CKPAwJ
Two of those posters are regular Ledgies here. I'll leave it to them to say who they are, although the one is obvious by name.
Two of those posters are regular Ledgies here. I'll leave it to them to say who they are, although the one is obvious by name.
Ha, yes, one is pretty obvious! :thumbsup:
HomerMcvie
02-21-2021, 07:03 PM
Ha, yes, one is pretty obvious! :thumbsup:
And when I hit conversations, it's like a trip down memory lane. "David" is there, as is also "Bill Gamelson", $tevie's infamous stalker.
It's really odd, because just a few days ago, "Bill" popped into my head, and I found him on FB. His posts were really sad. Some were "F the world....F everybody". On nearly every post, there were no friends commenting, no likes, no anything. What a sad man...
I believe at one point $tevie's people threatened him with legal action if he didn't leave her alone. 20 years ago there was a pic of him skydiving, and he had a Stevie license plate he was holding as he descended.
Edit - I have a 1000 FM pics in an old folder, and look what I found.
UnwindedDreams
02-21-2021, 07:37 PM
I believe at one point $tevie's people threatened him with legal action if he didn't leave her alone. 20 years ago there was a pic of him skydiving, and he had a Stevie license plate he was holding as he descended.
Stevie probably has a couple stalkers.
Dick's got his biggest fan in you:laugh:
I've done dozens of Edge walks and there are some cats as one might say
And when I hit conversations, it's like a trip down memory lane. "David" is there, as is also "Bill Gamelson", $tevie's infamous stalker.
It's really odd, because just a few days ago, "Bill" popped into my head, and I found him on FB. His posts were really sad. Some were "F the world....F everybody". On nearly every post, there were no friends commenting, no likes, no anything. What a sad man...
I believe at one point $tevie's people threatened him with legal action if he didn't leave her alone. 20 years ago there was a pic of him skydiving, and he had a Stevie license plate he was holding as he descended.
Edit - I have a 1000 FM pics in an old folder, and look what I found.
Bill Gamelson - what a strange creepy bird and unfortunately it sounds like not much has changed in all these years.
On one of those old threads I was stumbling through today, I also came across a post or two from gldustwmn or whatever it was. There have been some interesting characters in the online FM community over the years!
HomerMcvie
02-22-2021, 12:27 AM
Bill Gamelson - what a strange creepy bird and unfortunately it sounds like not much has changed in all these years.
On one of those old threads I was stumbling through today, I also came across a post or two from gldustwmn or whatever it was. There have been some interesting characters in the online FM community over the years!
Yeah, it was weird reading his fb(which is open for anyone). When you realize they have no friends, it makes you wonder what they might be capable of...hopefully nothing!
Is the gldustwmn the one who used to be a moderator here? She could be okay sometimes, but most of her posts were in the middle of the night, and often off the deep end, and we all suspected she was drunk. She finally blew up and I think she got banned. Not often that a mod gets banned!:lol:
HomerMcvie
02-22-2021, 12:32 AM
Dick's got his biggest fan in you:laugh:
I've done dozens of Edge walks and there are some cats as one might say
I don't hate Dick, he's just an idiot. We ALL have friends who just suck at making decisions. That's Dick. He spends money that he can't afford to lose, and ends up in bankruptcy, over and over. He's the King of Bad Decision Making.
Ulpian
02-22-2021, 11:33 AM
Lordy did you send me down a few wormholes with that link. Within that 2013 post is a reference to a 2004 post which I had to do a little searching to get to, which then had a reference to an alt.music.fleetwood-mac post from 1997. After taking a nap, that was about a perfect task for a Sunday during a pandemic!
The funny thing is I clearly keep thinking of the same questions every few years and ask on here or answer on a thread, entirely forgetting I have already done so in the past! I also went down some wormholes :lol:
David
02-22-2021, 02:32 PM
The funny thing is I clearly keep thinking of the same questions every few years and ask on here or answer on a thread, entirely forgetting I have already done so in the past! I also went down some wormholes :lol: If they can recycle the top-selling Fleetwood albums over and over, we can recycle our old posts, right?
The band played a couple of things when Christine returned in 2014 or 15 or whenever that was, and I don’t think they were very nimble on the fret board or in the vocal department at that point, thanks to Father Time. So I would like to have heard some of those things back in 1997 just to highlight more of the group’s old virtuosity.
World Turning
Think About Me
Seven Wonders
Ulpian
02-22-2021, 02:36 PM
If they can recycle the top-selling Fleetwood albums over and over, we can recycle our old posts, right?
The band played a couple of things when Christine returned in 2014 or 15 or whenever that was, and I don’t think they were very nimble on the fret board or in the vocal department at that point, thanks to Father Time. So I would like to have heard some of those things back in 1997 just to highlight more of the group’s old virtuosity.
World Turning
Think About Me
Seven Wonders
A 1997/8 Stevie singing “Sisters of the Moon” would have been great
A 1997/8 Stevie singing “Sisters of the Moon” would have been great
I'd love to think this, and it MAY have been...butt also it may have been a neutered shell of its 1982 self even with her voice still able to hit higher notes. It's safe to assume that a '97 Sisters would have followed a similar arrangement to the 2013 version - a serviceable but not too exciting recreation of the studio version, not too dissimilar to what Rhiannon had become by 1997. Without the solo and really letting loose on the "all the same" part, it just wasn't the same as it had been. Sisters with the chanting "sistahhh, sistahh" and none of Lindsey's magic, was just flat.
Ulpian
02-22-2021, 03:46 PM
I'd love to think this, and it MAY have been...butt also it may have been a neutered shell of its 1982 self even with her voice still able to hit higher notes. It's safe to assume that a '97 Sisters would have followed a similar arrangement to the 2013 version - a serviceable but not too exciting recreation of the studio version, not too dissimilar to what Rhiannon had become by 1997. Without the solo and really letting loose on the "all the same" part, it just wasn't the same as it had been. Sisters with the chanting "sistahhh, sistahh" and none of Lindsey's magic, was just flat.
I thought she might let rip like she did on the Dance GDW. But agreed re the 2013 version - I was all geared up to love it, and actually ended up much preferring her overlong weird GDW on that tour.
A 1997/8 Stevie singing “Sisters of the Moon” would have been great
and even if she couldn't sing it the way she did in 1982, at least at that time she and the band were trying to appease Lindsey and not neuter his guitar playing, like she's been doing on more recent tours in 2000s. so we could get that screaming guitar solo that we've been discussing in a whole separate thread. 2013 version was bad because the singing was not worth it and she also wouldn't allow Lindsey to go to town with guitar part. so it was lose-lose.
I thought she might let rip like she did on the Dance GDW. But agreed re the 2013 version - I was all geared up to love it, and actually ended up much preferring her overlong weird GDW on that tour.
If it wasn't for her RIDICULOUS dance, the long extended Gold Dust Woman is actually pretty cool. I love the jam and I don't even mind the "can you see me now" stuff she does. But that horrible dance. That should NEVER have been done outside of her house.
And I thought she nailed Gold Dust Woman in that '97-2000 period. I even like the version she did at the Sheryl Crow concert in 1999. Her vocals were on point. But then Rhiannon at the same time was like a big old turd.
Sisters 2013-14 wasn't BAD. Some people here just panned the whole thing as horrifying. I didn't think it was bad at all and I did see a lot of similarities in arrangement to the album version, but I also think the appeal of playing Sisters live for the super fans was the longing for what was on that video from 1982 and to a lesser extent from the Tusk Tour. It just rocked out at a different level the way that it was arranged and how she sung it. In order for it to work live, it needed to be energized and the way they did it was just flat. Also, it's location in the middle of the set didn't really lend to it being the all out rocker that it was in 1978-82 during the encore.
and even if she couldn't sing it the way she did in 1982, at least at that time she and the band were trying to appease Lindsey and not neuter his guitar playing, like she's been doing on more recent tours in 2000s. so we could get that screaming guitar solo that we've been discussing in a whole separate thread. 2013 version was bad because the singing was not worth it and she also wouldn't allow Lindsey to go to town with guitar part. so it was lose-lose.
Just like any modern version of Rhiannon - blah vocals and blah arrangement. The worst Rhiannon from 1978-82 (well after her vocal "exorcism" versions) destroys any version of it from The Dance onward.
Just like any modern version of Rhiannon - blah vocals and blah arrangement. The worst Rhiannon from 1978-82 (well after her vocal "exorcism" versions) destroys any version of it from The Dance onward.
yeah Rhiannon should have probably been retired long time ago. it is sad. luckily i don't have to ever hear it live again. :shrug:
like you, i didn't mind 2013 SOTM, i just hated not having the screaming guitar in it. i so wanted to hear that live.
Netter75
02-22-2021, 08:09 PM
I really like The Dance as is, most of them are pitch-perfect performances. If I were to make some changes, these are what they would be:
"The Chain"
"Dreams"
"Everywhere"
"Gold Dust Woman"
"I'm So Afraid"
"Isn't It Midnight" (Substituted for "Temporary One", carries the same high energy but would have an AMAZING guitar solo. I do like Temporary One however!)
"Bleed to Love Her"
"Gypsy"
"Big Love"
"Oh Daddy" (Substituted for "Go Insane", not into the solo songs. I would also accept "Brown Eyes" as it was rumored to be rehearsed for the show anyway).
"Landslide"
"Say You Love Me"
"You Make Loving Fun"
"Blue Letter" (Substituted for "My Little Demon". Same high energy, less lame lol. I would also accept "Monday Morning" or "Second Hand News" as all 3 are basically the same song).
"Silver Springs"
"Little Lies" (Substituted for "Over My Head". I understand why OMH was included in the setlist but does anyone honestly find this song interesting in the slightest? The 1980 Live Album version comes closest but it STILL bores me if I'm in the wrong mood. Little Lies would have made a much bigger splash).
"Rhiannon"
"Seven Wonders" (Substituted for "Sweet Girl". Sweet Girl is okay but I never seek it out. I would also accept "Angel" or "I Don't Want to Know")
"Go Your Own Way"
"Tusk" (Buckingham)
"Don't Stop"
"Sisters of the Moon" (splicing this one in because it is an incredible song and this probably would have been the last time it would have been great).
"Songbird"
If I could splice in Sara I would but I do think its the least consequential of the dreamy witchy songs (Dreams, Rhiannon, Gypsy, Sisters, Silver Springs, GDW).
HomerMcvie
02-22-2021, 10:02 PM
I really like The Dance as is, most of them are pitch-perfect performances.
I watched The Dance again a few nights ago, and I'm convinced that nearly all of it is overdubs. Just watching them singing harmonies, and I'm 99% positive that they're overdubs.
Netter75
02-22-2021, 10:32 PM
I watched The Dance again a few nights ago, and I'm convinced that nearly all of it is overdubs. Just watching them singing harmonies, and I'm 99% positive that they're overdubs.
Oh I'm sure. It's really evident on those harmonies in "Everywhere" or "Bleed to Love Her", they couldn't even harmonize that well in the 1970s :laugh:
Still nice to listen to! Better than the Tango video version of Everywhere where they did overdubs AND it sounded horrible.
SteveMacD
02-22-2021, 10:36 PM
The Dance wasn’t a live album, it was a made for TV event. The CD is more like a soundtrack than a Fleetwood Mac album.
bwboy
02-23-2021, 08:25 AM
I really like The Dance as is, most of them are pitch-perfect performances. If I were to make some changes, these are what they would be:
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"Isn't It Midnight" (Substituted for "Temporary One", carries the same high energy but would have an AMAZING guitar solo. I do like Temporary One however!)
"Oh Daddy" (Substituted for "Go Insane", not into the solo songs. I would also accept "Brown Eyes" as it was rumored to be rehearsed for the show anyway).
"Blue Letter" (Substituted for "My Little Demon". Same high energy, less lame lol. I would also accept "Monday Morning" or "Second Hand News" as all 3 are basically the same song).
"Little Lies" (Substituted for "Over My Head". I understand why OMH was included in the setlist but does anyone honestly find this song interesting in the slightest? The 1980 Live Album version comes closest but it STILL bores me if I'm in the wrong mood. Little Lies would have made a much bigger splash).
"Seven Wonders" (Substituted for "Sweet Girl". Sweet Girl is okay but I never seek it out. I would also accept "Angel" or "I Don't Want to Know")
I like a lot of these suggestions! Certain songs to me are so similar, for example Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman, and Sisters of the Moon, or Second Hand News, Blue Letter, and Monday Morning. Those songs by Nicks and Buckingham have a similar vibe or atmosphere, and are virtually interchangable. I love them, especially those Buck songs, but yeah, there’s a big similarity between them. I Don’t Want to Know live would be a dream come true for me, but instead we got Sweet Girl :shrug: Brown Eyes would have been intriguing, and hearing Christine and Lindsey on Isn’t It Midnight would have been exciting, much more so than Temporary One.
Macfan4life
02-23-2021, 08:41 AM
I watched The Dance again a few nights ago, and I'm convinced that nearly all of it is overdubs. Just watching them singing harmonies, and I'm 99% positive that they're overdubs.
Oh I totally agree. Just remember the inaugural ball's Dont Stop was a pre-recorded track. I hate this stuff. Everything is so fake these days...not just concerts. There are endless prank video channels of pranking people and the acting is so bad its not even funny. Nothing is original these days. Good grief...if the Tango concert in 1987 was lip synced why would they change it up in 1997 when their voices are older and they are not as glamorous as they once were. When the Who played the Super Bowl about 10 years ago, not only was it not live but they also piped in the crowd singing "Teenage Wasteland."
Nothing is real anymore. What next? Did the USC Marching Band pretend to play Tusk at the show? Was this also pre-recorded. We were all fooled. Think about it. The marching band is too big to be on mic.
“Is all that we see or seem,
But a dream within a dream?”
Edgar Alan Poe
HomerMcvie
02-23-2021, 11:09 AM
Oh I totally agree. Just remember the inaugural ball's Dont Stop was a pre-recorded track. I hate this stuff. Everything is so fake these days...not just concerts. There are endless prank video channels of pranking people and the acting is so bad its not even funny. Nothing is original these days. Good grief...if the Tango concert in 1987 was lip synced why would they change it up in 1997 when their voices are older and they are not as glamorous as they once were. When the Who played the Super Bowl about 10 years ago, not only was it not live but they also piped in the crowd singing "Teenage Wasteland."
Nothing is real anymore. What next? Did the USC Marching Band pretend to play Tusk at the show? Was this also pre-recorded. We were all fooled. Think about it. The marching band is too big to be on mic.
“Is all that we see or seem,
But a dream within a dream?”
Edgar Alan Poe
Daaannnngggggg, you sound old and bitter!!!:xoxo:
Nothing is real anymore. 90% of acts use tracks now. What happened to the world between Mirage and Tango that everything had to sound exactly like the record? Warts are no longer allowed....
And everything is a f*cking remake now. My best friend is 33, and every song I hear when I'm over there is a F*CKING REMAKE. I'll say, "you know this is an Elton John song, right?" "What?!" "Yes, WHY DON'T YOU JUST LISTEN TO THE ORIGINALS?"
Daaannnngggggg, now I sound old and bitter!!!:lol:
Macfan4life
02-23-2021, 12:56 PM
Daaannnngggggg, you sound old and bitter!!!:xoxo:
Nothing is real anymore. 90% of acts use tracks now. What happened to the world between Mirage and Tango that everything had to sound exactly like the record? Warts are no longer allowed....
And everything is a f*cking remake now. My best friend is 33, and every song I hear when I'm over there is a F*CKING REMAKE. I'll say, "you know this is an Elton John song, right?" "What?!" "Yes, WHY DON'T YOU JUST LISTEN TO THE ORIGINALS?"
Daaannnngggggg, now I sound old and bitter!!!:lol:
Its either a remake or stolen material. Puff Daddy aka Diddy aka whatever his name is now made millions "sampling" aka stealing the riffs of other songs. You used to have to be creative and develop your own s**t. Now you just steal it. I remember when Vanilla Ice was dragged to hell for stealing Bowie but then it just became cool. Now original artists don't mind because they make money off it. Wouldn't be so freaking cool if Stevie and Waddy told Beyonce go F yourself, you are not using my song and my riff.
HomerMcvie
02-23-2021, 01:18 PM
Its either a remake or stolen material. Puff Daddy aka Diddy aka whatever his name is now made millions "sampling" aka stealing the riffs of other songs. You used to have to be creative and develop your own s**t. Now you just steal it. I remember when Vanilla Ice was dragged to hell for stealing Bowie but then it just became cool. Now original artists don't mind because they make money off it. Wouldn't be so freaking cool if Stevie and Waddy told Beyonce go F yourself, you are not using my song and my riff.
Exactly. But I guess the bottom line(even if you're already RICH) is just money. Wouldn't you think if you had 20-30 million bucks, that you'd be okay, and decide that you don't need to make any more(since you're already knocking on death's door!:lol: ), and make decisions based on being an artist?
Ulpian
02-23-2021, 05:02 PM
The Dance wasn’t a live album, it was a made for TV event. The CD is more like a soundtrack than a Fleetwood Mac album.
Oh for sure. It just sounds so good.
BigAl84
02-23-2021, 06:29 PM
But were you not interested in him selling his feces in a jar in another thread hoping for appreciation in 20 years time?
Wasn’t that what mick was schlepping at Costco a few years back!?
Macfan4life
02-23-2021, 06:46 PM
Wasn’t that what mick was schlepping at Costco a few years back!?
I believe it was Sams Club
HomerMcvie
02-23-2021, 06:51 PM
I believe it was Sams Club
I'm fairly certain it was Costco.
He was selling Biddy's panties at Sam's.
I remember it was Costco because I would have looked for his wine to buy a bottle, if we had Costco in Bloomington, Indiana. We don't. Only Sam's.
UnwindedDreams
02-23-2021, 07:16 PM
He was selling Biddy's panties at Sam's.
I think Mick should sell his own line of extra large and extra tall mumus:lol:
HomerMcvie
02-23-2021, 07:19 PM
I think Mick should sell his own line of extra large and extra tall mumus:lol:
:lol::lol::lol:
I'm sure he would, as he obviously has zero shame. I hope rock history remembers him for being the horrible businessman he is, and the terrible decisions he's made.
UnwindedDreams
02-23-2021, 07:34 PM
:lol::lol::lol:
I'm sure he would, as he obviously has zero shame. I hope rock history remembers him for being the horrible businessman he is, and the terrible decisions he's made.
Oy, don't ruffle feathers! He'll make a whole other living off of TikTok... he's a star. Kind of like Howard became a new star after going on America's Got Talent:laugh:
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