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Macfan4life
02-17-2021, 12:37 PM
Christine McVie clarifies comments that Fleetwood Mac is done. Check my postings as I foretold this was going to happen. She spoke honestly but off the cuff. People tweeted and ran with false and misleading headlines that were unfair to her and the band.
Now it is official
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/christine-mcvie-fleetwood-mac-comments-1129059/
From Rolling Stone:
Last week, Christine McVie stunned Fleetwood Mac fans when she told the BBC she didn’t know if the band would ever tour again. “If we do, it will be without John [McVie] and without Stevie [Nicks], I think,” she said. “I think I’m getting a bit too old for it now, especially having had a year off. I don’t know if I can get myself back into it again.”
“[John] is feeling a little bit frail,” she continued. “You know he was ill. He’s fine, but he just hasn’t got the heart for it any more. He wants to get on his boat. You reach a certain age where you go: ‘Hey, I’m not going to bust a gut doing this anymore.'”
She concluded by saying that only drummer Mick Fleetwood would definitely be down for another tour. “[He] would do it in a lightning strike,” she said. “But I couldn’t possibly say. We’re certainly not touring this year either.”
The comments generated headlines around the world. But now, McVie has clarified to Rolling Stone where the group stands with regard to future touring.
“First and foremost, I’m thrilled to see that everyone still cares so much about Fleetwood Mac, how humbling to know what a lasting impact this band has had,” she said. “To clarify my recent comments, I was specifically asked if Fleetwood Mac would tour again. I gave a cheeky answer indicating that the band might be ‘done with that’ or ‘you just never know.’ I always intended to convey that, particularly after the last year, we just don’t know what the future holds.
“In no way are any members of Fleetwood Mac ‘done’ with being part of the band,” she continues. “If anyone took that from my statement, that was a misperception and not intended. Fleetwood Mac is part of the DNA of who I am, and I know the same is true for Stevie, Mick and John. As for future touring………Who knows. We continue to hope for the best.”
The band has been on hiatus since the conclusion of their An Evening With Fleetwood Mac tour in November 2019. It was their first tour since parting ways with singer-guitarist Lindsey Buckingham and bringing Crowded House’s Neil Finn and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell into the fold.
In February 2020, Mick Fleetwood staged a tribute concert to Fleetwood Mac co-founder Peter Green at the London Palladium featuring Pete Townshend, David Gilmour, Steven Tyler, Billy Gibbons, Neil Finn, John Mayall, Kirk Hammett and Christine McVie. It’s coming to movie theaters on March 23rd and March 28th and will be released as a live album and DVD on April 30th.
UnwindedDreams
02-17-2021, 12:52 PM
She doesn't say FM is in the dna of Neil and Mike... contractors not members... just doing the job to feed their families. Good for them!
SteveMacD
02-17-2021, 01:06 PM
She doesn't say FM is in the dna of Neil and Mike... contractors not members... just doing the job to feed their families. Good for them!
Umm, they’re completely loaded independent of Fleetwood Mac.
David
02-17-2021, 02:23 PM
Umm, they’re completely loaded independent of Fleetwood Mac.
Yeah, they’re pretty wealthy, I would imagine.
UnwindedDreams
02-17-2021, 03:17 PM
Umm, they’re completely loaded independent of Fleetwood Mac.
Do your feelings get hurt when it's expressed that Neil Finn is not a true member of Fleetwood Mac? If they do, I am sorry.
Chris didn't mention Mike or Neil because Mike and Neil were more like Adam Lambert or Paul Rodgers + Queen; privileged guests invited to sing the songs of the band
Mike doesn't have TP and the HBs anymore
When Crowded House or Split Enz plays the States, they play the small venues Lindsey plays.
SteveMacD
02-17-2021, 04:42 PM
Do your feelings get hurt when it's expressed that Neil Finn is not a true member of Fleetwood Mac? If they do, I am sorry.
Chris didn't mention Mike or Neil because Mike and Neil were more like Adam Lambert or Paul Rodgers + Queen; privileged guests invited to sing the songs of the band
Mike doesn't have TP and the HBs anymore
When Crowded House or Split Enz plays the States, they play the small venues Lindsey plays.
All I said is that both are independently wealthy outside of Fleetwood Mac. :shrug:
To suggest that either guy needs the money is comical. Both are multimillionaires with legendary careers.
Christine McVie clarifies comments that Fleetwood Mac is done. Check my postings as I foretold this was going to happen. She spoke honestly but off the cuff. People tweeted and ran with false and misleading headlines that were unfair to her and the band.
Now it is official
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/christine-mcvie-fleetwood-mac-comments-1129059/
From Rolling Stone:
Last week, Christine McVie stunned Fleetwood Mac fans when she told the BBC she didn’t know if the band would ever tour again. “If we do, it will be without John [McVie] and without Stevie [Nicks], I think,” she said. “I think I’m getting a bit too old for it now, especially having had a year off. I don’t know if I can get myself back into it again.”
“[John] is feeling a little bit frail,” she continued. “You know he was ill. He’s fine, but he just hasn’t got the heart for it any more. He wants to get on his boat. You reach a certain age where you go: ‘Hey, I’m not going to bust a gut doing this anymore.'”
She concluded by saying that only drummer Mick Fleetwood would definitely be down for another tour. “[He] would do it in a lightning strike,” she said. “But I couldn’t possibly say. We’re certainly not touring this year either.”
The comments generated headlines around the world. But now, McVie has clarified to Rolling Stone where the group stands with regard to future touring.
“First and foremost, I’m thrilled to see that everyone still cares so much about Fleetwood Mac, how humbling to know what a lasting impact this band has had,” she said. “To clarify my recent comments, I was specifically asked if Fleetwood Mac would tour again. I gave a cheeky answer indicating that the band might be ‘done with that’ or ‘you just never know.’ I always intended to convey that, particularly after the last year, we just don’t know what the future holds.
“In no way are any members of Fleetwood Mac ‘done’ with being part of the band,” she continues. “If anyone took that from my statement, that was a misperception and not intended. Fleetwood Mac is part of the DNA of who I am, and I know the same is true for Stevie, Mick and John. As for future touring………Who knows. We continue to hope for the best.”
The band has been on hiatus since the conclusion of their An Evening With Fleetwood Mac tour in November 2019. It was their first tour since parting ways with singer-guitarist Lindsey Buckingham and bringing Crowded House’s Neil Finn and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell into the fold.
In February 2020, Mick Fleetwood staged a tribute concert to Fleetwood Mac co-founder Peter Green at the London Palladium featuring Pete Townshend, David Gilmour, Steven Tyler, Billy Gibbons, Neil Finn, John Mayall, Kirk Hammett and Christine McVie. It’s coming to movie theaters on March 23rd and March 28th and will be released as a live album and DVD on April 30th.
hehe she must have gotten SN's mgmt call after her little interview [un]expectedly exploded. fun never ends! :blob2::blob2:
bombaysaffires
02-18-2021, 12:42 AM
Do your feelings get hurt when it's expressed that Neil Finn is not a true member of Fleetwood Mac? If they do, I am sorry.
Chris didn't mention Mike or Neil because Mike and Neil were more like Adam Lambert or Paul Rodgers + Queen; privileged guests invited to sing the songs of the band
Mike doesn't have TP and the HBs anymore
When Crowded House or Split Enz plays the States, they play the small venues Lindsey plays.
Well, Mike gets royalties off the songs he wrote for other people, like Stevie, as in, Stop Dragging My Heart Around, etc; he also wrote for/with Don Henley, (Boys of Summer, Heart of the Matter) and cowrote so many HB hits (Refugee, Running Down A Dream, You Got Lucky, etc etc) so the value of his catalogue should he ever decide to sell his share is pretty freakin high. :shrug: He might not sell out arenas on his own, but... dude is definitely loaded.
HomerMcvie
02-18-2021, 12:57 AM
Well, Mike gets royalties off the songs he wrote for other people, like Stevie, as in, Stop Dragging My Heart Around, etc; he also wrote for/with Don Henley, (Boys of Summer, Heart of the Matter) and cowrote so many HB hits (Refugee, Running Down A Dream, You Got Lucky, etc etc) so the value of his catalogue should he ever decide to sell his share is pretty freakin high. :shrug: He might not sell out arenas on his own, but... dude is definitely loaded.
According to da Googles, Mike is worth 60M. John McVie is worth 50M, if that gives anyone a reference point. That shows where songwriter's extra shares really add to the pile.
bombaysaffires
02-18-2021, 01:44 AM
According to da Googles, Mike is worth 60M. John McVie is worth 50M, if that gives anyone a reference point. That shows where songwriter's extra shares really add to the pile.
John does get Rumours royalties, so it does speak to the value of an album that continues to sell and sell......
HomerMcvie
02-18-2021, 02:40 AM
John does get Rumours royalties, so it does speak to the value of an album that continues to sell and sell......
And yet he can probably go ANYWHERE and not be bothered by idiotic fans.
I wanna be John McVie when I grow up!!! With proper enunciating!:p
jbrownsjr
02-18-2021, 08:31 AM
She never really said anyone quit. She just said the question was impossible to answer and that John expressed what he had to her. Also, that she didn't think Stevie would tour with FMac again.
The headline was a bit, "bait and switch".
aleuzzi
02-18-2021, 09:08 AM
It’s kind of funny that at nearly 80 Christine gets in trouble with the band and has to make an official “clarification” and apology. In her own way she is still the voice of reason and honesty, albeit now wrapped in a slightly doddering package. And even from her quiet little nest in England she can still get everyone up in arms by speaking the truth.
jbrownsjr
02-18-2021, 09:33 AM
It’s kind of funny that at nearly 80 Christine gets in trouble with the band and has to make an official “clarification” and apology. In her own way she is still the voice of reason and honesty, albeit now wrapped in a slightly doddering package. And even from her quiet little nest in England she can still get everyone up in arms by speaking the truth.
I wonder if she realizes her words can cost Stevie millions of dollars!!
SteveMacD
02-18-2021, 09:57 AM
I wonder if she realizes her words can cost Stevie millions of dollars!!
I wonder if Mick realizes that, because that puts him in a surprising position of power.
jbrownsjr
02-18-2021, 10:45 AM
I wonder if Mick realizes that, because that puts him in a surprising position of power.
Yes, no touring = different line up or freedom to call the shots.
HomerMcvie
02-18-2021, 10:53 AM
Yes, no touring = different line up or freedom to call the shots.
It's too late in the game for reinvention. Hell, the game is OVER, and that old scumbag is too stupid to realize it.
jbrownsjr
02-18-2021, 11:10 AM
It's too late in the game for reinvention. Hell, the game is OVER, and that old scumbag is too stupid to realize it.
Now you know better. He will do a Bob Welch met Danny Kirwan extravaganza poolooza starring:
Jackson Brown
Roger Waters
Ringo Star
Christine McVie
Eric Clapton
Steve Winwood
featuring Rick Vito and Doug Graves
HomerMcvie
02-18-2021, 11:51 AM
Now you know better. He will do a Bob Welch met Danny Kirwan extravaganza poolooza starring:
Jackson Brown
Roger Waters
Ringo Star
Christine McVie
Eric Clapton
Steve Winwood
featuring Rick Vito and Doug Graves
Rick is the only one that would even return that loser's phone call!:lol:
SteveMacD
02-18-2021, 12:06 PM
Now you know better. He will do a Bob Welch met Danny Kirwan extravaganza poolooza starring:
Jackson Brown
Roger Waters
Ringo Star
Christine McVie
Eric Clapton
Steve Winwood
featuring Rick Vito and Doug Graves
Not Doug Graves...:distress:
HomerMcvie
02-18-2021, 12:09 PM
Not Doug Graves...:distress:
That's why I didn't include Doug in my comment. I thought he had passed, but I wasn't 100% certain.
SteveMacD
02-18-2021, 12:17 PM
That's why I didn't include Doug in my comment. I thought he had passed, but I wasn't 100% certain.
Bob said something about it in 1998.
UnwindedDreams
02-18-2021, 12:34 PM
just doing the job to feed their families. Good for them!
Where here did I say Mike and Neil were middle-class?
My point is they took the job offer to do a nameless tour and not produce art. Thus, paid contractors who just took the money to pay tribute to FM.
Neil is basically feeding his family. He hired his kids for CH and there's a Finn Family Band too. Silver spoon!
jbrownsjr
02-18-2021, 12:41 PM
Not Doug Graves...:distress:
I know. I was being cheeky. (like Christine)
HomerMcvie
02-18-2021, 12:52 PM
I know. I was being cheeky. (like Christine)
As long as you're not doddering. :xoxo:
SteveMacD
02-18-2021, 04:07 PM
Neil is basically feeding his family. He hired his kids for CH and there's a Finn Family Band too. Silver spoon!
You do know that Split Enz was Tim Finn’s band when Neil joined, right? The Finns are a musical family, like the Wilsons, Carters, Thompsons, and Wainwrights.
ETA: And where did I say anything about “middle-class?”
UnwindedDreams
02-18-2021, 04:26 PM
You do know that Split Enz was Tim Finn’s band when Neil joined, right? The Finns are a musical family, like the Wilsons, Carters, Thompsons, and Wainwrights.
I do but I look at that differently than hiring your kids. I look at Neil bringing Liam and Elroy into CH like Trump bringing Jarvanka to the WH.
Did Ann or Nancy hire each other or they started it together?
SteveMacD
02-18-2021, 05:13 PM
I do but I look at that differently than hiring your kids. I look at Neil bringing Liam and Elroy into CH like Trump bringing Jarvanka to the WH.
LOL, they’re accomplished musicians in a rock band, not unqualified senior government officials. Get a perspective.
CH was always Neil’s band. He also brought his brother Tim in at one point. As it is, the current version of CH has the two surviving original members and the producer/keyboardist responsible for the legendary organ solo in their biggest hit. Neil plays a lot of music with his kids, you know, being a family of musicians, so why not bring them along? They have chemistry and obviously they know the songs.
Did Ann or Nancy hire each other or they started it together?
I was talking more about Brian, Carl, Dennis, and Carnie.
That said, Ann joined Heart before Nancy.
lazy poker
02-19-2021, 04:41 PM
@SteveMacD and UnwindedDreams
It looks like you're both completely out of your minds! For God's sake - will you please take your dreadful problems and your childish bickering somewhere else and leave this forum to its intended purposes. PLEASE! this is so offputting.
michelej1
03-01-2021, 02:00 AM
I second the Lazy Poker post. Simply block each other. Stop responding to each other.
michelej1
11-28-2021, 08:04 PM
I was looking for something else and saw this comment from Christine from 1982. She makes it sound like it was John who wanted the divorce. I can't imagine that he ever did.
"We knew it was salvageable and the thing that just came through at the end of it all was there had to have been a hell of a lot of respect for each other and ourselves. It was just simply a question of saying this is too good to drop it, just because my old man wants to divorce me? I mean no problem you know."
jbrownsjr
11-29-2021, 09:37 AM
She often speaks like that. As if to take the other point of view...(even though it's not how it happened).
aleuzzi
11-29-2021, 11:11 AM
I’ve read the quote three times and still can’t understand what she’s saying.
jbrownsjr
11-29-2021, 01:36 PM
I’ve read the quote three times and still can’t understand what she’s saying.
It's Christine speak for, "There might have been some love left, but we knew we had to divorce even though we didn't want it.... Meaning, I just couldn't do it anymore, but I still respect him more than Stevie and Lindsey."
HomerMcvie
11-29-2021, 01:43 PM
It's Christine speak for, "There might have been some love left, but we knew we had to divorce even though we didn't want it.... Meaning, I just couldn't do it anymore, but I still respect him more than Stevie and Lindsey."
It's got to be tough seeing someone completely obliterated for years on end.
And I also hear that John had a drinking problem. :p
jbrownsjr
11-29-2021, 04:25 PM
It's got to be tough seeing someone completely obliterated for years on end.
And I also hear that John had a drinking problem. :p
When you think about all that poor woman had to deal with. John, Mick and Jenny, Bob on herion then, the two loons come along, one on coke and the other getting high all day with a bottle of scotch.
She decides to retire to England, comes back after 15 1/2 years AND THE SAME BULLS**** is happening!!!
Only get this Homer: IT'S WORSE THAN BEFORE!!!
michelej1
11-29-2021, 07:44 PM
It's Christine speak for, "There might have been some love left, but we knew we had to divorce even though we didn't want it.... Meaning, I just couldn't do it anymore, but I still respect him more than Stevie and Lindsey."
Well, sorry. I didn’t give you the full context. She was talking about Rumours (as always) and then she just threw in the part about her husband wanting to divorce her at the end.
With the band she was just saying that even though they were all breaking up they still had a lot of respect for each other and no one wanted to walk away. But I was just focused on the part about divorce. We know that Stevie switched places in Dreams as if Lindsey was the one who wanted to leave her for his freedom, but I really have not known Christine to talk about her break up with John as if he was the one leaving her.
bombaysaffires
11-29-2021, 07:56 PM
Well, sorry. I didn’t give you the full context. She was talking about Rumours (as always) and then she just threw in the part about her husband wanting to divorce her at the end.
With the band she was just saying that even though they were all breaking up they still had a lot of respect for each other and no one wanted to walk away. But I was just focused on the part about divorce. We know that Stevie switched places in Dreams as if Lindsey was the one who wanted to leave her for his freedom, but I really have not known Christine to talk about her break up with John as if he was the one leaving her.
yes, she's talking about the BAND being salvageable, and the respect still there musically, and so why throw that all away just because me and my husband are splitting up (or, by extension, S&L were breaking up)
aleuzzi
11-29-2021, 11:35 PM
Well, sorry. I didn’t give you the full context. She was talking about Rumours (as always) and then she just threw in the part about her husband wanting to divorce her at the end.
With the band she was just saying that even though they were all breaking up they still had a lot of respect for each other and no one wanted to walk away. But I was just focused on the part about divorce. We know that Stevie switched places in Dreams as if Lindsey was the one who wanted to leave her for his freedom, but I really have not known Christine to talk about her break up with John as if he was the one leaving her.
Okay. There was an important context/reference that wasn’t quoted. Got it. Christine is usually clear and direct, so I was flabbergasted by how incoherent the language seemed. I thought she was trying to sound like Mick!
HomerMcvie
11-29-2021, 11:51 PM
Okay. There was an important context/reference that wasn’t quoted. Got it. Christine is usually clear and direct, so I was flabbergasted by how incoherent the language seemed. I thought she was trying to sound like Mick!
Inexplicably, she always seems to have Mick's back. Apparently her second language is also Doublespeak. Taught by her tutor of 50+ years. She should have more balls than that.
aleuzzi
11-30-2021, 07:48 AM
Inexplicably, she always seems to have Mick's back. Apparently her second language is also Doublespeak. Taught by her tutor of 50+ years. She should have more balls than that.
Fluent in Doublespeak—very true! She’s also often the good soldier touting the party line.
But she never talked about pacts or cycles.
jbrownsjr
11-30-2021, 02:07 PM
Fluent in Doublespeak—very true! She’s also often the good soldier touting the party line.
But she never talked about pacts or cycles.
She doesn't move in cycles, North, South, East or West only.
aleuzzi
11-30-2021, 10:25 PM
She doesn't move in cycles, North, South, East or West only.
Girl’s got some serious freedom in her mouth.
HomerMcvie
12-01-2021, 12:31 AM
Girl’s got some serious freedom in her mouth.
That's the worst lyric ever. It's right up there with $tevie's Preparation H line, "my walls are flaming".
jbrownsjr
12-01-2021, 08:19 AM
That's the worst lyric ever. It's right up there with $tevie's Preparation H line, "my walls are flaming".
wattttsmatta baby!!!!BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
aleuzzi
12-01-2021, 02:38 PM
That's the worst lyric ever. It's right up there with $tevie's Preparation H line, "my walls are flaming".
Egads, which Nicks song is that? Even in the darkest places of my mind I would not have imagined she could write that...but then the clouds never expect it when it rains, but the sea changes color.
HomerMcvie
12-01-2021, 06:11 PM
Egads, which Nicks song is that? Even in the darkest places of my mind I would not have imagined she could write that...but then the clouds never expect it when it rains, but the sea changes color.
IDK. It's from one of the clunkers on SYW. I haven't the desire to pull it out and torture myself, finding out.
vivfox
12-02-2021, 12:48 AM
That's the worst lyric ever. It's right up there with $tevie's Preparation H line, "my walls are flaming".
Egads, which Nicks song is that? .
IDK. It's from one of the clunkers on SYW. I haven't the desire to pull it out and torture myself, finding out.
Smile At You
aleuzzi
12-02-2021, 01:01 AM
Smile At You
That makes sense: I don’t know the song well enough to remember all the words.
HomerMcvie
12-02-2021, 01:30 AM
That makes sense: I don’t know the song well enough to remember all the words.
Smile At You is a gem compared to Silver Girl. A dog turd in the park is a gem compared to Silver Girl.
jbrownsjr
12-02-2021, 08:41 AM
Smile At You is a gem compared to Silver Girl. A dog turd in the park is a gem compared to Silver Girl.
That vocal is as bad as Second Time. It's so bad I can't believe anyone would end an album with that vocal tone. Leaves you wanting to throw the disk out.
Macfan4life
12-02-2021, 01:07 PM
That vocal is as bad as Second Time. It's so bad I can't believe anyone would end an album with that vocal tone. Leaves you wanting to throw the disk out.
Its a klonopin nightmare :eek: She sounds like an old woman
The tone is horrible, I agree. The guitar is so basic that I think I could play it. I love Chris's keyboards. She knew the song needed something and she tries to save it with her keyboards:(
If any song defined the klonopin era this is it. The writing is not great, the vocal his horrible and there is not much to the music which tells you her demo was just her singing like cats trapped in a microwave :eek:
jbrownsjr
12-02-2021, 02:32 PM
Its a klonopin nightmare :eek: She sounds like an old woman
The tone is horrible, I agree. The guitar is so basic that I think I could play it. I love Chris's keyboards. She knew the song needed something and she tries to save it with her keyboards:(
If any song defined the klonopin era this is it. The writing is not great, the vocal his horrible and there is not much to the music which tells you her demo was just her singing like cats trapped in a microwave :eek:
A lot of people (bit of change of subject) like Hold Me demo.. I like the duet better. Lindsey doesn't always add to her songs. But this one he really leveled it up.
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