Article: Fleetwood Mac's Stevie Nicks sent a letter to Lindsey.

[jbrownsjr]

https://www.nme.com/news/music/fleetwood-macs-stevie-nicks-sent-a-letter-to-lindsey-buckingham-after-his-heart-attack-2766177?amp&fbclid=IwAR2LTKd6v1QRnYJguFz87uMikyJ9Q5J9Ytpxp8FEI0XM2f8qnQUMLihWWJY

[elle]

https://www.nme.com/news/music/fleetwood-macs-stevie-nicks-sent-a-letter-to-lindsey-buckingham-after-his-heart-attack-2766177?amp&fbclid=IwAR2LTKd6v1QRnYJguFz87uMikyJ9Q5J9Ytpxp8FEI0XM2f8qnQUMLihWWJY

Haha this thread should have been called Nicks finally admits she got Lindsey fired and for no reason.

Disappointed in you babe for going with the misleading airy fairy clickbait instead. :xoxo::laugh:

[BigAl84]

This article is a train wreck.

Clearly she uses the death of her parents to justify her behavior, it's got nothing to do with some connection with her deceased parents. History and previous anecdotes tell us that of all people, it would be her parents that would advise her to calm down and work it out with Lindsey. Definitely not burn it to the ground in the last chapter of your collective lives.

The latest edition of who can Stevie attatch herself to - Cameron Crowe. He's been getting a ton of press for the anniversary of Almost Famous, so it's no suprise that he's the latest flavor of the month over at Camp Santa Monica to direct her music video.

Never suffered from depression, eh? I guess 1992-1995 never happened. What happened to all that talk about coming off coke, getting put on klonopin, getting severely depressed about the state of your career and weight gain. I mean, that was a good 15 minute segment of Behind the Music in itself.

What Fleetwood Mac records did you reconvene with Fleetwood Mac for? The beginning stages of Say You Will are quickly approaching the 20 year mark. It's been 17 years since it's release. You've declined to participate in every formal plea to make an album since, with the exception of the Extended Play EP. What the literall h*ll are you talking about?

You're suprised about the Lindsey fallout? you mean you're suprised you lit the moltov cocktail and threw it over the fence? And how ironic she wouldn't talk about it at the time, but she has no problem talking about it when shlepping her latest project to the press. You have to squeeze in those juicy Lindsey bits to sweeten up the pot, eh? The same way she exploited RGB to talk about her own inflated self.

That Fleetwood Mac tour was an effing bomb, she knows it, the band knows it, everybody knows it. If that tour was so special the way they talked it up, why aren't they releasing a film of that tour instead of Stevie's solo tour from 4 years ago. She'll talk about Lindsey before mentioning the "new band" version of Fleetwood Mac. This is also the second time she's referred to Fleetwood Mac "breaking up" so again the whole "new band" pitch Mick used to sell that tour was in fact, coomplete garbage. There was no effing interest in carrying on as a band. It was strictly about the tour and the money. Straight from Mike Campbell's mouth - he's sent over demos to her and doesn't even get a phone call back.

Just remember, records take too long to make and don't make enough cash...
Unless it's her solo album and it's all about her.
Unless she can attatch Harry Styles to it and then it will sell more copies.
Unless she can exploit Lindsey's heart attack and draw from the well of "Lindsey-Stevie" drama that she's exploited for years to gain herself attention (when talking up Fleetwood Mac tours she was more than happy to agree to)
Unless she can exploit RGB to talk about herself when promoting her latest project.

[jbrownsjr]

Haha this thread should have been called Nicks finally admits she got Lindsey fired and for no reason.

Disappointed in you babe for going with the misleading airy fairy clickbait instead. :xoxo::laugh:

Please put me on probation!! Don't make me give up my Lindsey card!! :eek:

[jbrownsjr]

Agree completely. She wisely ropes the Shippers in so she can sell. She's really become a human piece of garbage. PLEASE KEEP ME RELEVANT!! I have nothing else in my life but leeches and blind fans!!!

[Macfan4life]

Ok let me put my trained statement analysis to work:

A few things really floored me. First was her acknowledging fan pushback on her RBG tribute to bring up Lindsey. Used it as if she was the victim.

Notice how she kept saying this was long over due and it was going on for a very long time however she NEVER explains what it was. What exactly has Lindsey been doing to you for so many years that you finally had a breaking point? Tell us. If it was something so bad, the readers would understand. She has never said why. Mick only hinted that Stevie thought Lindsey was mocking her at the awards ceremony.

Spill the beans if you were treated so bad. Good grief you make tens of millions of dollars on tour with the Mac, take separate limos to shows, stay in different hotel rooms and barely see Lindsey.

[sleepless child]

I totally agree. You are a multi-million dollar organization. When you tour, you employ many and makes millions. You can't work things out after 50 years!? Go to couples therapy. Many rock groups have done it in the past. I never saw evidence of Lindsey mocking Stevie at the Musicares event. She made that up and there is video evidence of it. And the gall to act as if the fans should just get over it. We have invested years into this group of 5 people. She is clueless. And to actually send a letter to Lindsey, not to apologize, but to tell him to be grateful to be alive and how to conduct himself... slow down, take care etc..., like he wouldn't know that? I am really amazed at her. She should just leave Fleetwood Mac and be just a solo act. It's really all she cares about anyway.

[HomerMcvie]

I am really amazed at her. She should just leave Fleetwood Mac and be just a solo act. It's really all she cares about anyway.

But would Lindsey come back? I'D HOPE NOT. F*CK them, the whole lot of them. THEY f*cked him over, by allowing the Goat the demand his firing.

THEY RUINED THE ENDING OF THE BAND OF MY ENTIRE LIFE. F*CK THEM.

[UnwindedDreams]

This article is a train wreck.

Clearly she uses the death of her parents to justify her behavior, it's got nothing to do with some connection with her deceased parents. History and previous anecdotes tell us that of all people, it would be her parents that would advise her to calm down and work it out with Lindsey. Definitely not burn it to the ground in the last chapter of your collective lives.

The latest edition of who can Stevie attatch herself to - Cameron Crowe. He's been getting a ton of press for the anniversary of Almost Famous, so it's no suprise that he's the latest flavor of the month over at Camp Santa Monica to direct her music video.

Never suffered from depression, eh? I guess 1992-1995 never happened. What happened to all that talk about coming off coke, getting put on klonopin, getting severely depressed about the state of your career and weight gain. I mean, that was a good 15 minute segment of Behind the Music in itself.

What Fleetwood Mac records did you reconvene with Fleetwood Mac for? The beginning stages of Say You Will are quickly approaching the 20 year mark. It's been 17 years since it's release. You've declined to participate in every formal plea to make an album since, with the exception of the Extended Play EP. What the literall h*ll are you talking about?

You're suprised about the Lindsey fallout? you mean you're suprised you lit the moltov cocktail and threw it over the fence? And how ironic she wouldn't talk about it at the time, but she has no problem talking about it when shlepping her latest project to the press. You have to squeeze in those juicy Lindsey bits to sweeten up the pot, eh? The same way she exploited RGB to talk about her own inflated self.

That Fleetwood Mac tour was an effing bomb, she knows it, the band knows it, everybody knows it. If that tour was so special the way they talked it up, why aren't they releasing a film of that tour instead of Stevie's solo tour from 4 years ago. She'll talk about Lindsey before mentioning the "new band" version of Fleetwood Mac. This is also the second time she's referred to Fleetwood Mac "breaking up" so again the whole "new band" pitch Mick used to sell that tour was in fact, coomplete garbage. There was no effing interest in carrying on as a band. It was strictly about the tour and the money. Straight from Mike Campbell's mouth - he's sent over demos to her and doesn't even get a phone call back.

Just remember, records take too long to make and don't make enough cash...
Unless it's her solo album and it's all about her.
Unless she can attatch Harry Styles to it and then it will sell more copies.
Unless she can exploit Lindsey's heart attack and draw from the well of "Lindsey-Stevie" drama that she's exploited for years to gain herself attention (when talking up Fleetwood Mac tours she was more than happy to agree to)
Unless she can exploit RGB to talk about herself when promoting her latest project.
I wanna say that your post was excellent. The only disagreement I have was that the Evening with Fleetwood Mac In Concert Tour 2018-2019 was not a financial bomb. They charged high and mostly did well.
But if you're an artist, then it was a bomb. If you're an artist, you play your own work. People become songwriters to sing their own songs. Stevie talks about not doing the same old, but she sang all of the same songs she always does.
When Lindsey wasn't around for the Tango/Shake the Cage and 1990 BTM tours, they at least played new songs. On the 2013 tour, they played new songs and gems. On Unleashed, they did Oh Well, SYLM, a great version of Stand Back, and Monday Morning.

She brought Lindsey up without being asked about him. And why is a person insane for commenting about Lindsey on her RBG post? The person got their comment acknowledged as high up as it could've been that's for sure!

[BombaySapphire3]

And why is a person insane for commenting about Lindsey on her RBG post? The person got their comment acknowledged as high up as it could've been that's for sure!

I was wondering if that could have been a Ledgie. Like maybe secondhandchain? If it was great work. :thumbsup:

[UnwindedDreams]

I was wondering if that could have been a Ledgie. Like maybe secondhandchain? If it was great work. :thumbsup:

She needs rubber stamp people around her. I'm surprise Karen wasn't served a pink slip for not filtering that comment out.:laugh:

[elle]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She loved the <a href="https://twitter.com/thedavidcrosby?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thedavidcrosby</a> documentary -- says she'd be open to making one like it herself -- and wants CSNY to get back together. She also said Crosby visited her when she was rehab for Klonopin in 1994. <a href="https://t.co/53ajPlYbdM">pic.twitter.com/53ajPlYbdM</a></p>&mdash; Amy Kaufman (@AmyKinLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmyKinLA/status/1311718620653776896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://twitter.com/AmyKinLA/status/1311718620653776896?s=20

[elle]

Good grief you make tens of millions of dollars on tour with the Mac, take separate limos to shows, stay in different hotel rooms and barely see Lindsey.

which is exactly what they've been doing the last number of tours. :shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

which is exactly what they've been doing the last number of tours. :shrug:

And yet he dared to smirk...

If he'd danced AND smirked $he probably would have had him killed.

[elle]

She brought Lindsey up without being asked about him. And why is a person insane for commenting about Lindsey on her RBG post? The person got their comment acknowledged as high up as it could've been that's for sure!

apparently there is a bunch of comments like that on her RBG Instagram post.

looks like that spurred her to try and deflect the blame. :shrug:

[bombaysaffires]

wait, wait, wait.... what f&*&*&g delusional drugs is she on now???


She added that she “never planned” for Buckingham to leave the band and was “disappointed” when it happened. “Any time we re-formed to do a tour or a record, I always walked in with hope in my heart. And I just was so disappointed. I felt like all the wind had gone out of my sails,” she said.

Does she mean when she PUSHED him out?? She acts like somehow it was HIS idea.... He didn't "leave the band" he got FIRED. She was so "disappointed"... BULL EFFING CRAP. It was her INTENTION. Who the f%^k says "It's me or him" and then doesn't think that ONE OF YOU ISN'T GOING TO BE GOING ON THAT TOUR..???????:mad::distress:

[bombaysaffires]

can anyone put a copy of the full article on here? it's locked behind an LAT paywall.

[michelej1]

The moonlight confessions of Stevie Nicks

Stevie Nicks
“It makes me very, very sad,” says Nicks of the split with her former romantic partner and bandmate Lindsey Buckingham.(Christopher Buzelli / For The Times)

By AMY KAUFMANSTAFF WRITER SEP. 30, 202012:08 PM

Stevie Nicks was in her early 30s when her father told her she’d never get married.

She had just released her solo album, 1981’s “Bella Donna,” embarking on a second career that would fill any time she wasn’t spending with Fleetwood Mac. Her music, Nicks’ dad said, would always consume her.

She considered the possibility. She certainly was not a woman who liked to be told what to do. Still, the words stung: “No man would be happy being Mr. Stevie Nicks for very long.” Had he doomed her to a life of solitude simply by speaking the thought into existence?

“Nobody,” she laughs now, decades later, “dooms me to anything but myself.”

At 72, Nicks has had a few great loves. Some we know about — Lindsey Buckingham, Don Henley, JD Souther — and many we don’t. She did get married once, back in 1983, an ill-fated three-month relationship with the husband of her best friend, who had just died of leukemia. She would have considered taking another spouse, had she met the right person — someone who wasn’t jealous of her, who got a kick out of her crazy girlfriends. But ultimately, her father pretty much got it right: She has yet to feel more devoted toward a man than her muse.

Which is why, in part, this pandemic has hit her so hard. Two projects due out this month have, she says, offered a vestige of normalcy: “24 Karat Gold: The Concert,” a cinematic version of her 2017 solo show, and a politically minded new single, “Show Them the Way,” which will be accompanied by a Cameron Crowe-directed music video. She’s also decided that she wants to make another solo album and plans to spend the rest of quarantine turning the poetry from her journals into lyrics.

But with touring on hold, she’s bored and depressed, conditions she’s claimed to never before suffer from. She’s cripplingly afraid of catching the coronavirus, fearing that going on a ventilator would leave her hoarse and ruin her voice.

“I have put a magical shield around me, because I am not going to give up the last eight years — what I call my last youthful years — of doing this,” she vows. “I want to be able to pull up those black velvet platform boots and put on my black chiffon outfit and twirl onto a stage again.”

It’s 9 p.m. on a Saturday when Nicks first calls from her home in the Pacific Palisades, where she has been sequestered with a close friend, her assistant and her housekeeper.

She has always been a night owl, but has recently become nocturnal, typically going to bed around 8 a.m. She attributes the change in her sleep pattern to the news, which she says she watches constantly. Usually, she likes to open the French doors to her bedroom, but tonight it’s dark outside because of the wildfires — “and not like, foggy, romantic dark. It’s just weird dark.” The smoke and ash in the air triggers her asthma, so she is not even venturing into her backyard.

Nicks is speaking from a landline. She has a personal line that she dances around when it rings, wondering “Who could it be? Is this a two-hour call? Is this going to be a tragedy?” and an emergency line to which her assistant attends. She does not have a computer. She does have an iPhone, but it doesn’t have cellular service and she uses it only as a camera.

Despite her distaste for social media, Nicks has gone viral a few times in recent months. Earlier this week, the internet discovered a TikTok video in which “doggface208" skateboards while singing along to Fleetwood Mac’s “Dreams,” swigging from a container of cran-raspberry juice and generally living his best life.


After the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Nicks paid tribute to the Supreme Court justice, admitting her into the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of Life.” (Nicks is the only woman to be inducted twice into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, first with Fleetwood Mac in 1998 and then on her own in 2019.) The reactions to the RBG post were largely positive, but she saw one comment that ignored her sentiment entirely and instead lambasted her for her band’s interpersonal drama.

“They didn’t even care about what I had written about Ruth and went right to the breakup of Fleetwood Mac and Lindsey Buckingham,” she says. “I was like, ‘We’re talking about the death of a great Supreme Court judge, and you are yelling at me about something that happened two-and-a-half years ago? What are you, insane?’ I’m reeling from it. But I’m also like, OK: I can never be on social media.”

Nicks’ troll was referring to the highly publicized 2018 firing of Buckingham, who joined Fleetwood Mac as a lead guitarist and vocalist alongside then-girlfriend Nicks in 1974. The group’s tumult is the stuff of music legend: After ending her on-off again relationship with Buckingham, in 1977 Nicks had a brief affair with then-married drummer Mick Fleetwood. Singer Christine McVie, meanwhile, was in the midst of her own clandestine relationship with the band’s lighting director, ultimately leading to her divorce from bassist John McVie.

With the exception of a decade-long hiatus to focus on his solo career in the ‘90s, however, Buckingham remained with Fleetwood Mac until January 2018, when he claims he was unceremoniously let go. Together, they’d made an indelible mark on music history. Hits like “Dreams,” “Rhiannon,” “Landslide,” “The Chain” and “Gypsy” are now rock canon. 1977’s “Rumours” was No. 1 in the U.S. for 31 weeks, and subsequent tours over the decades showcased not just an incomparable baby-boomer songbook but the scars left from the band’s never-ending soap operas — Buckingham and Nicks frequently shot eye daggers at each other in front of packed stadiums during renditions of breakup anthems like “Go Your Own Way” and “Silver Springs.”

When Buckingham was axed from the group, he sued for lost wages — claiming he would have collected between $12 million and $14 million in two months of touring with Fleetwood Mac. (He was replaced by Mike Campbell of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and Crowded House’s Neil Finn.) In legal documents, Buckingham says his firing came days after the band’s appearance at the January 2018 MusiCares Person of the Year ceremony. He alleges that he was later told that Nicks thought he’d mocked her on stage at the event while she was delivering a speech; she was apparently so upset that she told the rest of Fleetwood Mac she’d walk if he wasn’t cut from the band.

Nicks is reluctant to discuss the details of that night, though she admits it was the “straw that broke the camel’s back.”

“I never planned for that to happen,” she says hesitantly. “Any time we re-formed to do a tour or a record, I always walked in with hope in my heart. And I just was so disappointed. I felt like all the wind had gone out of my sails.”


There’s melancholy in her voice when she discusses the split, which she describes as a “long time coming.” She was always hopeful that “things would get better” but found herself noticing she was increasingly sad with Fleetwood Mac and more at peace in the “good, creative happy world” with her solo band.

“I just felt like a dying flower all the time,” she says. “I stayed with him from 1968 until that night. It’s a long time. And I really could hear my parents — I could hear my mom saying, ‘Are you really gonna do this for the rest of your life?’ And I could hear my dad saying in his very pragmatic way — because my dad really liked Lindsey —‘I think it’s time for you and Lindsey to get a divorce.’ It’s a very unfortunate thing. It makes me very, very sad.”

She says she hasn’t spoken to Buckingham in a couple of years, though she did write him a note after his February 2019 heart attack: “You better take care of yourself. You better take it easy and you better do everything they tell you and get your voice back and feel the grace that you have made it through this.”

Nicks has cataloged the ups and downs of her life in journals — she estimates she has roughly one per year of her life — and she plans to leave many of them to her goddaughters, of whom she has 11 or 12; she can’t be certain. She chose most of her goddaughters at birth — asking their parents if she could fulfill the role — and relishes the way they keep her “totally young and up on everything.” She loves to spoil them all with gifts imbued with meaning, like a pair of pink strappy heels she found at a store in Australia and deemed “Cinderella slippers.”

Tokens are important to Nicks. In 1977, she began having gold moon necklaces made to give as gifts to those she felt needed them. Over the years, she’s bestowed them to celebrities (the Haim sisters, Taylor Swift, Tavi Gevinson), soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and Make-a-Wish recipients. Members of the coven — her “Sisters of the Moon” — are told the moons are lucky charms and to pass them along to another in need, should the moment arise.

Nicks is wearing the signature necklace in “24 Karat Gold,” the concert special slated to play in theaters for two nights only, Oct. 21 and 25. (A CD version comes out Oct. 30; streaming plans for the film have yet to be determined.)


In May, Nicks flew to Chicago, where Joe Thomas, the film’s director, was finessing a cut of it. The final version features 17 songs, only four of which are Fleetwood Mac hits. The show emphasizes Nicks’ solo career — MTV standards like “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around,” “Stand Back” and “Edge of Seventeen.” Performing music from her “dark, gothic trunk of lost songs,” she tells the audience, makes her feel like she’s a 20-year-old embarking on a new career. “This is not the same Stevie Nicks show you’ve seen a million times,” she explains, “because I am different.”

“This is the show where you get to meet this girl, finally,” says guitarist Waddy Wachtel, who served as the tour’s musical director and has known Nicks since 1970. “She can relax and work her own rhythm. It’s a joy to see her get into her own songs instead of fighting to get her due in a band where there are three really strong songwriters.”

On the road, Wachtel says, Nicks travels via private plane because she has declared herself too old for tour buses. She loves lavish hotel rooms with pianos, a perk Wachtel thinks she’s earned: “She doesn’t have a husband. She doesn’t have a boyfriend. She wants a good room to be able to play her music as loud as she wants.”

Nicks was just as specific when it came to editing the concert film. In the editing suite with Thomas, she insisted that “dorky” overusage of the phrase “like” be excised and was exacting when it came to the way she looked.

“He’d show me something and I’m, like, ‘Are you serious? You’re actually thinking about using that horrifically bad shot of me?’” she recalls, describing how she’d proceed to pace the room, popping breath mints into her mouth. “If you’re a woman and you’re not 30, you want to look as good as you can. You start to realize that men see women completely differently than we see ourselves.”


Nicks cares about her appearance and has been on Weight Watchers since 2005. She’s never considered being a spokeswoman for the brand because she prefers to follow one of the company’s now-defunct plans from 15 years ago. One of the biggest reasons she wants to stay in shape is because her stage clothes are custom-made, and she says it would be too costly and annoying to have them remade.

She traces the origin of her style — an amalgam of goth hippie, bohemian Californian girl and Victorian priestess — to 1970, when she and Buckingham were still an eponymous duo. Before their show at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, Nicks saw a woman walk by on the street. She was a vision in mauve and pink, with an edged-out layered skirt, riding jacket and cream-colored platform boots. Her hair was done like a Gibson Girl. And Nicks wanted to be her.

“This girl obviously had some money, because this was not a cheap outfit. It was beautiful, and I went, ‘Oh, that’s exactly how I want to look,’” she remembers. Still, she wore her street clothes on stage for another year until a friend introduced her to a designer who helped her bring her vision to life. On paper, Nicks sketched a stick girl with bell sleeves and a top hat. She has never gone on stage without some version of this uniform since — save for a stint in the early 2000s, when she hurt her hip and was forced to wear tennis shoes.


She put on some of these clothes for the first time a few nights ago, filming the music video for her new song inside her home. Without her makeup artist on hand, it took her three hours to put on her face. The eyeliner, she says, was the most difficult part, because she had to redo it “about 50 times.” But the experience made her feel like herself again: “It was like, ‘Oh, I’m still alive.’”

“Show Them the Way,” due Oct. 9, was born out of a dream Nicks had in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. In it, she was invited to perform at a political benefit for icons of history. Martin Luther King Jr. led her by the arm into a ballroom where John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and John Lewis were seated, awaiting her. The dream was so vivid that the instant she awoke, she wrote it down and within days, put it to music.

But it was only this year that she decided to record it for release — viewing it as a hopeful balm during this “very strange and dangerous time.” And though she expresses displeasure with the current political landscape, she stops short of endorsing any candidate.

“As we get closer to the election, I probably will state who I am for,” she says. “But not now. Well — I’m not for Trump, so that’s that.”


She says she has been “brokenhearted” since the death of Ginsburg. Nicks believes that people like Ginsburg go to heaven, where they continue to look down on us. After the death of her mother in 2012, Nicks started to believe that the dead send signs to the living. Five months after her mom passed, Nicks contracted a head infection. Her doctor instructed her to drink electrolytes, so she began “pounding” Diet Gatorade. Before long, she was also suffering from acid reflux.

“It was burning up my chest and my throat,” she says. “And all of a sudden, I felt this little tap on my shoulder and heard my mom go: ‘It’s the Gatorade.’”

There have been countless other moments like this since. If she can’t find something — an errant earring, a pack of matches, a book of poetry — she voices the item aloud and her mom helps her find it.

“It’s so real and creepy, and I always just go ‘Thank you, Barbara.’ I sometimes feel I have more of a relationship with my mom since she’s been dead than I did before she died.”

Nicks has long felt a connection to the spiritual world. For years, one of her goals has been to make a movie about the mythological Celtic deity Rhiannon. When she wrote the song “Rhiannon” in 1973, she had little knowledge of the folklore behind the name. But five years later, a fan sent her four paperback novels in a Manila envelope — author Evangeline Walton’s adaptation of the ancient British Mabinogion. Nicks was so transfixed by the literature that she eventually bought the rights to Walton’s work in the hopes of bringing the epic to the big screen.

Because of the scope of the story, it was later decided that the movie should be a television miniseries, and earlier this year Nicks says she finally signed a deal with a studio to make it. She has 10 songs that she’s never released, still on cassette tapes in a suitcase, set aside specifically for the project.

Despite her 2014 turn on “American Horror Story,” Nicks has no plans to play a major role in the miniseries, though she’s not opposed to the idea of “riding by on a white horse or something.” She won’t dish on her dream cast but says that Harry Styles “is definitely in the running.”


“I’m going, ‘Harry, you cannot age one day. You have to stay exactly as you are,’” she says with a laugh. “I’ve already sold him on it.”

Styles is one of the many young artists who counts Nicks as both a mentor and an inspiration. Before he finished his latest record, “Fine Line,” he invited Nicks and five of her friends to his home to listen to it. They sat in his living room and listened to the whole album three times, sharing opinions until sunrise. When the 26-year-old debuted the record at the Forum late last year, he invited Nicks to join him on stage for a rendition of “Landslide” — “a huge thrill, because he made a choice to be a rock ‘n’ roll star and not a pop star,” she says. “That was a risk for a guy from a boy band. That was like Fleetwood Mac doing ‘Tusk’ after ‘Rumours.’ I was very proud of him.”

Asked if an older version of Styles would be her type, Nicks chuckles.

“Well, that would be a good thing,” she says. She hasn’t been in love since the early 2000s but has no plans to “sit in a bar with a bunch of my friends and wait for some weirdo guys to come over and buy us drinks” once the pandemic ends.

“Now, if I was even, like, 30 or 40 or 50, I would never use a dating app. I find that to be totally desperate,” Nicks says. “I watch all those crime shows. Are you setting yourself up with an ax murderer or something?

There’s a big part of her that believes you’ll never find something if you’re looking for it. But at her core, Nicks is a romantic — a woman who says she’s fallen in love at first sight four times and thinks her next paramour might always be around the next corner. “It’s not ever out of the realm of possibility. It’s just not very probable,” she sighs.

For now, love lives on in her music.

“I can sit down at the piano and take out a poem that I wrote right in the middle of a really great relationship and make it into a song. Right now, at 72 years old. So when people say, ‘Can you still write romantic songs?’ I absolutely can.”

[johnnystorms]

Ok let me put my trained statement analysis to work:

A few things really floored me. First was her acknowledging fan pushback on her RBG tribute to bring up Lindsey. Used it as if she was the victim.

Notice how she kept saying this was long over due and it was going on for a very long time however she NEVER explains what it was. What exactly has Lindsey been doing to you for so many years that you finally had a breaking point? Tell us. If it was something so bad, the readers would understand. She has never said why. Mick only hinted that Stevie thought Lindsey was mocking her at the awards ceremony.

Spill the beans if you were treated so bad. Good grief you make tens of millions of dollars on tour with the Mac, take separate limos to shows, stay in different hotel rooms and barely see Lindsey.
We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

[mitzo]

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018
Yup. She then, at practically 70 years of age, finally said enough is enough. As was her right.

[TrueFaith77]

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

THOSE are the reasons??!!

If those are the reasons I would be firing people all day.

The way you assert yourself—which I acknowledge is HARD—is to say “No” and continue on with your job. She already had the power and leverage. It’s not Lindsey’s fault she didn’t know that. So while it was her right to do, it was not right to do—for Lindsey or for her.

[bombaysaffires]

thanks for posting the full article, Michele. For whatever reason, I was able to access it without the paywall coming up through their Twitter link.:shrug: But it's great to have these articles embedded here for archival purposes in case the links get removed.

Stevie's a big girl. She knows how to push back and say no to LB. Witness the infamous Bob Dylan conversation. It is beyond belief that she would wear a cardigan onstage because he "insisted" on it. Please.

Also, her assertion that she can still write romantic songs.... that's a very clever and subtle way to push back on the obvious fact that she isn't writing any songs and finds it too hard. She herself (in typical Stevie revisionist history) said just a few months back that she was quarantining in her big house with a bunch of her god daughters and that they were saying to her "ooh let's use this time to record a bunch of songs" and her response was that that was easy for people to say because THEY didn't have to write the songs, SHE did and she hasn't been able to write. (She just left out that she hasn't written for a long time, not just during covid.)

Funny she now wants to do a solo record. Though without a new product or tour to plug she can't do the big publicity pushes and get herself all over the media. And without any new FM albums or tours in the offing, she's either got to crank out a solo project or fade into the background. Remember a few years ago when that was her dream.... she got her trailer in Malibu to retreat to and was so distressed because she'd been so busy with work commitments that she hadn't had any time to furnish or decorate it? All the years whining about wanting to retreat to a castle on a cliff overlooking the ocean......blah blah blah. She's got that fabulous penthouse hanging over the beach and she still isn't happy. her career really is the only thing she's got. It's getting truly rather sad.

[bombaysaffires]

Her quote about CSN:

"I've had my problems with FM. But when he (Crosby) said that he never sees them or talks to them? That's hard for me, because I just want it to not be that way. I want him to be friends with those people and I want those people to forgive him for whatever it is that they're angry with him for. I want them to get back together and put their ear monitors in and go out and sing. I just wish that they could put that behind them somehow and understand what it would mean to all of us. It would mean everything to me to be able to hear them sing. To do one more, like, small, cool, acoustic tour where they sang all those songs that we all love so much. I feel like it's not gonna happen, and I know that he's not in the best of health. And so that is even scarier. Because you don't want them to waste time. I want them all to forgive each other. And if they're so made at him, I want them to forgive him. Because they went through so much together. Just listening to him talk about how he loved many women and he wasn't a very good boyfriend and he drug a lot of people down-- it's like, you know, that was then, and **** happens. You just want to be able to go 'we were one of the greatest trios to ever walk the face of this earth. Ever.' And probably inspired more people in the music business than anybody".

so much to unravel in this. Does she ever actually LISTEN to what she says?
It's so typical Stevie-- bad behavior should be ignored, there's nothing she does that should be unforgiven, but you know, if she's mad at someone else that's different. I'd argue the Beatles inspired far more people in the music biz than anyone, and maybe Elvis.
Call me when you've taken your own advice, sister, and made amends to FM and thought about THOSE fans. It would mean everything to hear the 3 singers in FM sing together again; it would slay me to hear Buckingham Nicks sing Frozen Love just once live. SHE ruined that dream; she pooped on FM fans, so remember that when you want CSN to do what YOU can't seem to do.
FM ain't getting any younger; LB had a frigging heart attack; they're all pushing 80. Look in the mirror mirror, street angel.

[FuzzyPlum]

She's chicken oriental

[UnwindedDreams]

THOSE are the reasons??!!

If those are the reasons I would be firing people all day.

The way you assert yourself—which I acknowledge is HARD—is to say “No” and continue on with your job. She already had the power and leverage. It’s not Lindsey’s fault she didn’t know that. So while it was her right to do, it was not right to do—for Lindsey or for her.

The cardigan thing was about rebranding the band. Going modern rather than baroque and gaudy. Ultimately Stevie brought out the shiny costumes and stuff which I love. I especially loved the coat she wore for Gypsy in 03 and the big red Sara kimono.

I mean it's not like Lindsey put a gun to her head about the clothes. She coulda said go frig yourself or told Mick about it.

[elle]

i don't get this cardigan story. when were FM members telling each other what to wear? they were always disjointed in their clothing styles and known for it, referred to as looking like they are going to 5 separate parties.

and if the guy not known for any particular style tries to tell a woman who is in fact famous for having a style , how would she just not tell him to shove it and do whatever she wanted? same way as she did with the Bob Dylan thing which was a polite constructive suggestion and she had no problem telling him no. so why would she instead try to please him about clothes?

makes no sense at all.

[michelej1]

The cardigan thing is ridiculous. Stevie’s fans want her to be a fierce diva and a delicate hot house flower all at the same time. Stevie wore the sweater because she wanted to. She wore it to functions that were not associated with FM. Apparently, she liked it. Did Lindsey complain about her clothes? Probably he complains about a lot of stuff. He always has. I don’t think that stopped her when they were in their twenties and it sure didn’t stop her for SYW.

It is just like when Lindsey teased her about taking the mic off the stand and accused her of being a Vegas act like Sammy Davis Junior. Apparently that crushed her spirit so much that she almost needed psychiatric care. Her fans murmur, “It is not what he says. It’s the way that he says it.”

But apparently the way that she and Mick used her leverage to kick him out of the band that he carried on his back and scoffed when he soon needed heart surgery that left him without his voice is no big deal. Sweater that.

[michelej1]

But the fact that no one has any examples except his “you’re using the wrong pronoun” is proof that the guy has done nothing to her except be a trivial annoyance, which is apparently not allowed in the Queen's presence.

This has been true for decades. I remember when she used to give interviews saying he was “mean to me“. What the heck does that mean. That you gave him an album and he left it sitting on the stair? Attila the Hun used to do stuff like that. So, she has a point. In fact not only did he spear babies but I don’t believe Attila has ever heard Bella Donna to this day.

But that is what being “mean” to her consists of, his sideways glares. Nothing more. It reminds me of Robert Browning’s “My Last Duchess”. The guy did away with his wife because she smiled too often and the smiles she bestowed on peasants was the same smile she gave him. That could not be tolerated. Stevie wanted Lindsey to bow down to her and to Karen because she was the biggest audience draw. Lindsey did not because he foolishly believed that he had something to do with the legacy she is lauded for and had no cause to bow down.

[BigAl84]

I love how the Karens of the Stevie world bring up the Dylan exchange but they ALWAYS leave out that bit where he very politely said "OK, it's your song I just thought I would bring it up"

Not to mention it's visibly clear he was hesitant to bring it up, he knew he was stepping into delicate waters.

Oooph big bad Lindsey being a jerk...hmm k.

[elle]

Her quote about CSN:

"I've had my problems with FM. But when he (Crosby) said that he never sees them or talks to them? That's hard for me, because I just want it to not be that way. I want him to be friends with those people and I want those people to forgive him for whatever it is that they're angry with him for. I want them to get back together and put their ear monitors in and go out and sing. I just wish that they could put that behind them somehow and understand what it would mean to all of us. It would mean everything to me to be able to hear them sing. To do one more, like, small, cool, acoustic tour where they sang all those songs that we all love so much. I feel like it's not gonna happen, and I know that he's not in the best of health. And so that is even scarier. Because you don't want them to waste time. I want them all to forgive each other. And if they're so made at him, I want them to forgive him. Because they went through so much together. Just listening to him talk about how he loved many women and he wasn't a very good boyfriend and he drug a lot of people down-- it's like, you know, that was then, and **** happens. You just want to be able to go 'we were one of the greatest trios to ever walk the face of this earth. Ever.' And probably inspired more people in the music business than anybody".


Call me when you've taken your own advice, sister, and made amends to FM and thought about THOSE fans.

this quote is just so... weird? is she really that oblivious? or she knows exactly what she is doing?

she answered her own question irom this same interview here, about why are Fleetwood Mac fans on her social media so mad about her breaking up the band, and never being able to have the Classic Mac together again.

and then - the person who is wronged and the rest of the band doesn't want to talk to should somehow try to approach them? not the people who ghosted and wronged that person, people who do wrong don't owe any apologies? that's some warped logic right there. :shrug:

then again looking at history, it's pretty consistent:

she dumps the guy and writes songs making it look like he dumped her;
she gets the guy fired and talks like he somehow fired himself and she was begging him to stay so now she's oh so sad. (and of course she got him fired because she was oh so sad every time she would see him :lol:)

[jbrownsjr]

this quote is just so... weird? is she really that oblivious? or she knows exactly what she is doing?

she answered her own question irom this same interview here, about why are Fleetwood Mac fans on her social media so mad about her breaking up the band, and never being able to have the Classic Mac together again.

and then - the person who is wronged and the rest of the band doesn't want to talk to should somehow try to approach them? not the people who ghosted and wronged that person, people who do wrong don't owe any apologies? that's some warped logic right there. :shrug:

then again looking at history, it's pretty consistent:

she dumps the guy and writes songs making it look like he dumped her;
she gets the guy fired and talks like he somehow fired himself and she was begging him to stay so now she's oh so sad. (and of course she got him fired because she was oh so sad every time she would see him :lol:)


The amount of untruth that comes out of her mouth is staggering. It's almost as if everything she says is a lie.

[elle]

I love how the Karens of the Stevie world bring up the Dylan exchange but they ALWAYS leave out that bit where he very politely said "OK, it's your song I just thought I would bring it up"

Not to mention it's visibly clear he was hesitant to bring it up, he knew he was stepping into delicate waters.

Oooph big bad Lindsey being a jerk...hmm k.


although, they both have been dismissive towards each other over the years, and probably hate that they owe each other their success.

a weird co-dependent love/hate relationship, probably more hate than love as the years went by.

both passive aggressive, trying to put each other down.

[UnwindedDreams]

But the fact that no one has any examples except his “you’re using the wrong pronoun” is proof that the guy has done nothing to her except be a trivial annoyance, which is apparently not allowed in the Queen's presence.

Lindsey did not because he foolishly believed that he had something to do with the legacy she is lauded for and had no cause to bow down.
Don't forget he also said it's a rule of thumb that you don't write a verse that goes from past tense to present participle!

Also, the argument persons make with your suggestion that Lindsey had only 2 popular solo songs so he couldn't have helped Stevie produce successful songs!

[HomerMcvie]

The amount of untruth that comes out of her mouth is staggering. It's almost as if everything she says is a lie.

It's not a lie, if you believe it, Jerry.
-$tevie Costanza

[SteveMacD]

although, they both have been dismissive towards each other over the years, and probably hate that they owe each other their success.

a weird co-dependent love/hate relationship, probably more hate than love as the years went by.
And, that’s one of the biggest differences between CSNY and Stevie and Lindsey. All of the guys in CSNY had been in legendary hit-making bands before getting together. Also, CSNY weren’t ex-lovers. There are a few layers of drama that CSNY doesn’t have to deal with.

I suspect the biggest reason why the McVies were able to become great friends again is that lack of owing each other their careers. John had a pretty legendary career even before Fleetwood Mac, and Christine was an up and coming musician in her own right. Even with being bandmates, their personal and professional relationships weren’t nearly as enmeshed.

[button-lip]

Funny she now wants to do a solo record. Though without a new product or tour to plug she can't do the big publicity pushes and get herself all over the media. And without any new FM albums or tours in the offing, she's either got to crank out a solo project or fade into the background. Remember a few years ago when that was her dream.... she got her trailer in Malibu to retreat to and was so distressed because she'd been so busy with work commitments that she hadn't had any time to furnish or decorate it? All the years whining about wanting to retreat to a castle on a cliff overlooking the ocean......blah blah blah. She's got that fabulous penthouse hanging over the beach and she still isn't happy. her career really is the only thing she's got. It's getting truly rather sad.

Her career doesn't seem to be enough for her at this age. Or her fans. Or her packed arenas. Or her ego.
I wish I could feel some kind of sympathy for her. Not that she cared anyway, but she honestly doesn't inspire any positive feeling in me. She did enough damage. She should apologize or just shut up.

[michelej1]

although, they both have been dismissive towards each other over the years, and probably hate that they owe each other their success.



Yeah, I wouldn't try to argue that Lindsey wasn't being a pain when he said that. He can be pretty smug ("in a word, yes"), but she gives as good as she gets. She was in a documentary making fun of his singing style on Tusk. She made me laugh, but if he had done the same thing to her in a documentary, the fury would never have ended.

[SteveMacD]

She was in a documentary making fun of his singing style on Tusk. She made me laugh, but if he had done the same thing to her in a documentary, the fury would never have ended.

He put “What Makes You Think You’re The One?” On Tusk which totally mocks her vibrato.

[johnnystorms]

I love how the Karens of the Stevie world bring up the Dylan exchange but they ALWAYS leave out that bit where he very politely said "OK, it's your song I just thought I would bring it up"

Not to mention it's visibly clear he was hesitant to bring it up, he knew he was stepping into delicate waters.

Oooph big bad Lindsey being a jerk...hmm k.

what does "Karens of the Stevie world" mean?

[UnwindedDreams]

He put “What Makes You Think You’re The One?” On Tusk which totally mocks her vibrato.
Isn't this song his main post-punk, new wave debut on Tusk? Thus, the singing is different than his singing on the white or Rumours albums. I think he sounds great on WMYTYTO
Springsteen styles his voice to sound like Dylan on tons of songs and it doesn't sound good.

[SteveMacD]

Isn't this song his main post-punk, new wave debut on Tusk? Thus, the singing is different than his singing on the white or Rumours albums. I think he sounds great on WMYTYTO
Springsteen styles his voice to sound like Dylan on tons of songs and it doesn't sound good.

“The darker side of “What Makes You Think You’re The One” was rooted in the lyrics and performance that revisited Lindsey’s feelings toward Stevie and their past as a couple, a breakup that was only two years old at this point. If there was any doubt of who the song was about, Lindsey did his best to imitate Stevie’s distinctive vibrato, giving it a bleating, goatlike quality, and her rudimentary piano playing, which he knew made her self-conscious. This only served to exacerbate Stevie’s feelings of mistreatment by her ex, in a very dysfunctional way that I was to discover directly from her. Stevie provocatively described her experience making Tusk as being like one of the hostages in Iran held by Lindsey as the Ayatollah Khomeini who had seized power of Studio D.” -Ken Caillat

[aleuzzi]

Thanks for posting the entire article. Wow. I mean WOW—she is one delusional gal these days. And it’s so clear that her agent/management engineered this “story” to counteract the negative responses she got for her self-serving RBG tribute and to the now widely-acknowledged lies the band were telling the press about Lindsey’s firing.

There are so many WTF moments in this. But rock-n-roll is crammed with narcissists who believe their every thought and revelation is of great importance. Still, the following bit is beyond embarrassing:

[“Show Them the Way,” due Oct. 9, was born out of a dream Nicks had in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. In it, she was invited to perform at a political benefit for icons of history. Martin Luther King Jr. led her by the arm into a ballroom where John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and John Lewis were seated, awaiting her. The dream was so vivid that the instant she awoke, she wrote it down and within days, put it to music.]

Wow. I mean WOW.

[UnwindedDreams]

“The darker side of “What Makes You Think You’re The One” was rooted in the lyrics and performance that revisited Lindsey’s feelings toward Stevie and their past as a couple, a breakup that was only two years old at this point. If there was any doubt of who the song was about, Lindsey did his best to imitate Stevie’s distinctive vibrato, giving it a bleating, goatlike quality, and her rudimentary piano playing, which he knew made her self-conscious. This only served to exacerbate Stevie’s feelings of mistreatment by her ex, in a very dysfunctional way that I was to discover directly from her. Stevie provocatively described her experience making Tusk as being like one of the hostages in Iran held by Lindsey as the Ayatollah Khomeini who had seized power of Studio D.” -Ken Caillat
Is everyone who reads that quote obligated to take it as Bible?
Ken Caillat wasn't the creator or author of the song. Is he a mind-reader? That perspective flirts like it's not a good song.

To me Lindsey's vocals and stylings are great on that track. Just like Stevie's vocals are great on Sisters and Chris' are on Brown Eyes.

The whole package of What Makes You Think You're the One isn't everything Stevie. I think it's in vein with the spirit of the album, which is a new plank to walk. And Stevie honors that risk the band took in praising Harry's career choice.

[SteveMacD]

Is everyone who reads that quote obligated to take it as Bible?
Ken Caillat wasn't the creator or author of the song. Is he a mind-reader? That perspective flirts like it's not a good song.

To me Lindsey's vocals and stylings are great on that track. Just like Stevie's vocals are great on Sisters and Chris' are on Brown Eyes.

The whole package of What Makes You Think You're the One isn't everything Stevie. I think it's in vein with the spirit of the album, which is a new plank to walk. And Stevie honors that risk the band took in praising Harry's career choice.
You’re free to believe whatever you want, although the quote doesn’t speak to the quality of the song.

Ken was there, not me. However, it makes complete sense. Just listen to “What Makes You Think You’re The One” and follow it with “Edge of Seventeen.”

[michelej1]

[“Show Them the Way,” due Oct. 9, was born out of a dream Nicks had in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. In it, she was invited to perform at a political benefit for icons of history. Martin Luther King Jr. led her by the arm into a ballroom where John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and John Lewis were seated, awaiting her. The dream was so vivid that the instant she awoke, she wrote it down and within days, put it to music.]

Wow. I mean WOW.

Stevie is the only human being in the world who would boast about having a dream in which Martin Luther King plays her usher.

[jbrownsjr]

Stevie is the only human being in the world who would boast about having a dream in which Martin Luther King plays her usher.

Seriously, did she do a hit of acid before this interview? Who's editing her?
They can't keep track of her lies, and her "WOW don't say that Stevie!!" comments.

[UnwindedDreams]

Ken was there, not me. However, it makes complete sense. Just listen to “What Makes You Think You’re The One” and follow it with “Edge of Seventeen.” They say imitation is the highest form of flattery.

I think Ken's quote isn't fair to artistry. Artists are free to make sounds and craft their art. When I listen to What Makes you Think you're the One, I don't think it sounds like Stevie playing piano. Most artists want their songs to take on individual experiences for the listeners. Like when I listen to Stand Back, I don't think of Little Red Corvette; it's not necessary to.

I don't agree that Lindsey sounds like a goat in the song. I don't think Stevie sounds like a goat either.

[HomerMcvie]

I don't agree that Lindsey sounds like a goat in the song. I don't think Stevie sounds like a goat either.

I agree with the former, and disagree with the latter.

[elle]

“The darker side of “What Makes You Think You’re The One” was rooted in the lyrics and performance that revisited Lindsey’s feelings toward Stevie and their past as a couple, a breakup that was only two years old at this point. If there was any doubt of who the song was about, Lindsey did his best to imitate Stevie’s distinctive vibrato, giving it a bleating, goatlike quality, and her rudimentary piano playing, which he knew made her self-conscious. This only served to exacerbate Stevie’s feelings of mistreatment by her ex, in a very dysfunctional way that I was to discover directly from her." -Ken Caillat

yup. while Ken's descriptions are usually negatively colored towards Lindsey by some kind of who-is-really-FM-producer competition, i think this one is right on the money. Tusk era seems to have been the peak of Lindsey's contempt, hatred and frustration with Stevie, and this song is unusually direct in clearly stating it. that one live version from the Tusk tour?? dripping with hate and contempt. but it's a great song.

looks like 2010s were the other way around - Lindsey completely being at peace with FM, Stevie, his solo career, and everyone's place in each others lives, while Stevie was apparently boiling with resentment towards him. weird thing is that they really never saw each other while working on FM tours, except on stage. he avoided any gatherings she'd pull together inviting the band while on the road with FM, and was mostly doing his own thing.

that last sentence is also revealing - her characterizing his writing bitter songs about being dumped by her, or that she was still expecting him to do stuff foe her as "his mistreatment of her." Just like now - apparently she expects him to just disregard that she kicked him outta their band, and she doesn't see any need to apologize.

[bombaysaffires]

“The darker side of “What Makes You Think You’re The One” was rooted in the lyrics and performance that revisited Lindsey’s feelings toward Stevie and their past as a couple, a breakup that was only two years old at this point. If there was any doubt of who the song was about, Lindsey did his best to imitate Stevie’s distinctive vibrato, giving it a bleating, goatlike quality, and her rudimentary piano playing, which he knew made her self-conscious. This only served to exacerbate Stevie’s feelings of mistreatment by her ex, in a very dysfunctional way that I was to discover directly from her. Stevie provocatively described her experience making Tusk as being like one of the hostages in Iran held by Lindsey as the Ayatollah Khomeini who had seized power of Studio D.” -Ken Caillat

He makes it sound like she said the Iran hostage part to him directly, which in theory she could have, but personally I highly doubt it. He's quoting pretty much verbatim what she said in a published interview around that time. His book (and those of Mick) very much rely on padding from published interviews which the "authors" then present as if they were there when these things were said. I take Ken with a major grain of salt, in particular given his bias regarding Lindsey. Sure, he was there, but if you believe him he was as wasted most of the time as the rest of them, and a lot of his attention would have been focused on technical issues....and given that band members declined to share their memories with him for his book he had to pull their thoughts from somewhere. I just don't get the sense that Ken was as "inside" the band members' (especially S&L) circle as, say, Richard.

[soul_drifter333]

yup. while Ken's descriptions are usually negatively colored towards Lindsey by some kind of who-is-really-FM-producer competition, i think this one is right on the money. Tusk era seems to have been the peak of Lindsey's contempt, hatred and frustration with Stevie, and this song is unusually direct in clearly stating it. that one live version from the Tusk tour?? dripping with hate and contempt. but it's a great song.

looks like 2010s were the other way around - Lindsey completely being at peace with FM, Stevie, his solo career, and everyone's place in each others lives, while Stevie was apparently boiling with resentment towards him. weird thing is that they really never saw each other while working on FM tours, except on stage. he avoided any gatherings she'd pull together inviting the band while on the road with FM, and was mostly doing his own thing.

that last sentence is also revealing - her characterizing his writing bitter songs about being dumped by her, or that she was still expecting him to do stuff foe her as "his mistreatment of her." Just like now - apparently she expects him to just disregard that she kicked him outta their band, and she doesn't see any need to apologize.

You think that it could have been her affair with Mick? Had to be one of the most hurtful thing to do to someone you just broke up with and still have to work with everyday. Of all the people to choose. Someone told me that they saw a Rumours show and Mick and Stevie kissed on stage so you can only imagine the feelings that conjured up for Lindsey. Stevie and Lindsey both have done some pretty cruel to each other over the years so they're both to blame but at some point it is time to grow up and I think Lindsey has. Unfortunately, the other has not.

[Steviegirl]

Thanks for posting the entire article. Wow. I mean WOW—she is one delusional gal these days. And it’s so clear that her agent/management engineered this “story” to counteract the negative responses she got for her self-serving RBG tribute and to the now widely-acknowledged lies the band were telling the press about Lindsey’s firing.

There are so many WTF moments in this. But rock-n-roll is crammed with narcissists who believe their every thought and revelation is of great importance. Still, the following bit is beyond embarrassing:

[“Show Them the Way,” due Oct. 9, was born out of a dream Nicks had in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. In it, she was invited to perform at a political benefit for icons of history. Martin Luther King Jr. led her by the arm into a ballroom where John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and John Lewis were seated, awaiting her. The dream was so vivid that the instant she awoke, she wrote it down and within days, put it to music.]

Wow. I mean WOW.

Tee hee! Oh. My. Gosh. Taken in isolation, this part of the article could easily be Nigel Tufnel ruminating on "Lick My Love Pump." Wow, indeed. :lol: Sigh. Smh

[button-lip]

Seriously, did she do a hit of acid before this interview? Who's editing her?
They can't keep track of her lies, and her "WOW don't say that Stevie!!" comments.

Apparently her yes-people is doing an awful job. :laugh: Or her senility symptons are stronger than ever :shrug:

[button-lip]

He makes it sound like she said the Iran hostage part to him directly, which in theory she could have, but personally I highly doubt it. He's quoting pretty much verbatim what she said in a published interview around that time. His book (and those of Mick) very much rely on padding from published interviews which the "authors" then present as if they were there when these things were said. I take Ken with a major grain of salt, in particular given his bias regarding Lindsey. Sure, he was there, but if you believe him he was as wasted most of the time as the rest of them, and a lot of his attention would have been focused on technical issues....and given that band members declined to share their memories with him for his book he had to pull their thoughts from somewhere. I just don't get the sense that Ken was as "inside" the band members' (especially S&L) circle as, say, Richard.

People will believe what they want to believe. Ken was never an insider, not as Richard anyway. And the Ayatollah part was never told to him directly as far as I know.
And $tevie clearly has no idea what's like to being held hostage. Seriously, the woman is unbelievable.

[The Catdancer]

“I stayed with him from 1968 until that night."

WTH does this even mean?? They broke up in 1976 (she broke up with him). I know they've had "encounters" over the years but as far as I know the guy has been very happily married with children. As he himself said in an interview he married his soul mate. Maybe she stayed with him in her mind but not in Lindsey's mind; he was too busy with his soul mate.

[aleuzzi]

Stevie is the only human being in the world who would boast about having a dream in which Martin Luther King plays her usher.

It’s mind boggling

[elle]

Stevie is the only human being in the world who would boast about having a dream in which Martin Luther King plays her usher.

it's embarrassing. she says she wrote a "political" song. and then she goes on to describe the song as being about some of the historic civil rights giants (all men) being attentive to her. how is that political?

[Storms123]

it's embarrassing. she says she wrote a "political" song. and then she goes on to describe the song as being about some of the historic civil rights giants (all men) being attentive to her. how is that political?

Not sure who is handling her now but they should be fired. She's off her damn rocker.

[BombaySapphire3]

it's embarrassing. she says she wrote a "political" song. and then she goes on to describe the song as being about some of the historic civil rights giants (all men) being attentive to her. how is that political?

To be fair it she had been famous in the 1960s she would have at least done the Kennedy boys. That one is a natural.

[HomerMcvie]

To be fair it she had been famous in the 1960s she would have at least done the Kennedy boys. That one is a natural.

The mind boggles and reels at the thought that $he actually missed an opportunity. Any opportunity.:p

[michelej1]

She was famous during Ted Kennedy’s time.

[jbrownsjr]

She was famous during Ted Kennedy’s time.

Ha! This made me :lol:

[jmn3]

Thanks for posting the entire article. Wow. I mean WOW—she is one delusional gal these days. And it’s so clear that her agent/management engineered this “story” to counteract the negative responses she got for her self-serving RBG tribute and to the now widely-acknowledged lies the band were telling the press about Lindsey’s firing.

There are so many WTF moments in this. But rock-n-roll is crammed with narcissists who believe their every thought and revelation is of great importance. Still, the following bit is beyond embarrassing:

[“Show Them the Way,” due Oct. 9, was born out of a dream Nicks had in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. In it, she was invited to perform at a political benefit for icons of history. Martin Luther King Jr. led her by the arm into a ballroom where John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and John Lewis were seated, awaiting her. The dream was so vivid that the instant she awoke, she wrote it down and within days, put it to music.]

Wow. I mean WOW.

That is just so cringey. She is absolutely a nut. I wouldn't doubt that she didn't even know who John Lewis was until recently, let alone in 2008. MLK escorted her to a room where the dead Kennedy's and John Lewis awaited her. OMG...she's the Trump of Fleetwood Mac.

[HomerMcvie]

OMG...she's the Trump of Fleetwood Mac.

OMG.....THIS is perfect!!!!

[aleuzzi]

That is just so cringey. She is absolutely a nut. I wouldn't doubt that she didn't even know who John Lewis was until recently, let alone in 2008. MLK escorted her to a room where the dead Kennedy's and John Lewis awaited her. OMG...she's the Trump of Fleetwood Mac.

Or she sees herself as Jessica Tandy’s Miss Daisy. Take your pick.

[jbrownsjr]

OMG.....THIS is perfect!!!!

Especially when she talks about herself and then lies about others.

[HomerMcvie]

Especially when she talks about herself and then lies about others.

You know how to tell when $he's lying?


Her lips are moving.

[BigAl84]

I find it even more interesting that the CSN bit conveniently didn't make it into the published interview.

[bombaysaffires]

I find it even more interesting that the CSN bit conveniently didn't make it into the published interview.

someone on her team was paying attention, even if she wasn't

[jbrownsjr]

someone on her team was paying attention, even if she wasn't

That was my exact thought!