Stevie posts letter about Ruth Bader Ginsburg death on social media.

[Jondalar]

September 18, 2020

RBG,

She was my hero. She fought for me, and all women. I feel today very much like I felt on the night my own mother died. I feel like someone punched me in the stomach. My tears have not stopped since a friend tip toed into my room and said ‘Stevie,’ Ruth died. (No need for the last name...)

I so believed that she would live for a few more years. I wanted to meet her. I wanted to hold her hand and give her a huge hug and thank her for all she had done for women, and for all she would continue to do.

If I lived in Washington D.C., I would be standing on the steps of the Supreme Court with as many long stemmed red roses as I could hold - and a candle. I will light that candle here, at my house, right now- and I will go find the most beautiful rose in the back yard-

It is my great regret that I did not make the effort to go and try and meet her. As with all legends, you think they will live forever, so you will get there in time.

I did not get to meet her. I did not get to stand in her grace. What a loss...

She was a political rock star -

As a two-time Rock and Roll of Fame inductee, the first female to be inducted twice, compared to 22 men been inducted twice, I Stevie Nicks, induct Ruth Bader Ginsburg into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of my life-

She was our girl-
Our champion-
Our finest example-
She was Ruth-

[HomerMcvie]

"As a two-time Rock and Roll of Fame inductee, the first female to be inducted twice, compared to 22 men been inducted twice, I Stevie Nicks, induct Ruth Bader Ginsburg into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of my life-"
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At least she didn't make it about herself...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Jondalar]

"As a two-time Rock and Roll of Fame inductee, the first female to be inducted twice, compared to 22 men been inducted twice, I Stevie Nicks, induct Ruth Bader Ginsburg into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of my life-"
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At least she didn't make it about herself...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

That is exactly what I thought. I cringed when she mentioned the two-time inductee crap.

On another note, I’m really worried about our country. As if we haven’t had enough division, now we have her death adding fuel to a powder keg. I’m afraid we are headed for a Civil War. The timing of her death is very bad. I thought things were calming down a little and now this.The next three or four months are going to be hell. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[HomerMcvie]

That is exactly what I thought. I cringed when she mentioned the two-time inductee crap.

On another note, I’m really worried about our country. As if we haven’t had enough division, now we have her death adding fuel to a powder keg. I’m afraid we are headed for a Civil War. The timing of her death is very bad. I thought things were calming down a little and now this.The next three or four months are going to be hell. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

EVERYTHING is about her. She can't reference anything without making it about herself.

We've been on this path for more than 4 years. This is a bit more fuel on the fire, though. I can't wait for it to be over. As if it ever will be...

[Jondalar]

EVERYTHING is about her. She can't reference anything without making it about herself.

We've been on this path for more than 4 years. This is a bit more fuel on the fire, though. I can't wait for it to be over. As if it ever will be...

I know. That is what I thought too. She couldn’t resist putting that in there. She will be humbled soon. Her album is going to flop. People aren’t buying albums now and older artists have a really bad time. She’ll be lucky to sell 20k copies it. Sheryl crow couldn’t even sell 50k of her last non-live album.

Anyway, I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach about Ginsburg’s death. Violence and rioting has already been normalized. This may push people over the edge.

[michelej1]

So what friend tiptoed into her room and gave her the news? I don’t think she was referring to Karen.

And no offense to RBG. It’s not as if my friends and I have not spoken about her a lot in the last three months and hoped and prayed that she could just hold on a little longer. We have. She is known and has been on everyone’s tongue lately. But if someone tiptoed into my room and said that Ruth died I would still go, “Wait, what? Who??”

First I would think they were referring to a friend of my mother’s named Ruth and my next guess would be Ruth Wilson. I really don’t refer to the Notorious RBG as Ruth.

But, if they shook me awake and said Stevie died, Stevie would be glad to know that the very first Stevie I would think of would be her. The next Stevie would be Stevie Wonder.

[Macfan4life]

"As a two-time Rock and Roll of Fame inductee, the first female to be inducted twice, compared to 22 men been inducted twice, I Stevie Nicks, induct Ruth Bader Ginsburg into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of my life-"
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At least she didn't make it about herself...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I don't know if you if you know this but Silver Girl was written about RBG. She was a silver girl lost in a high tech world.



I highly doubt Stevie wrote this statement but she may have approved it or saw it later. Its much too childlike even for her. But you never know. It would have been nice for the statement to throw in a few lines from Silver Girl. The last line should have read....she was our (silver) Girl

[Jondalar]

I don't know if you if you know this but Silver Girl was written about RBG. She was a silver girl lost in a high tech world.



I highly doubt Stevie wrote this statement but she may have approved it or saw it later. Its much too childlike even for her. But you never know. It would have been nice for the statement to throw in a few lines from Silver Girl. The last line should have read....she was our (silver) Girl

Silver Girl was written about Sheryl Crow, not Ginsburg. Did Steviebjustvssy that to suit the times or something? Back in 2003 shrr Ed was telling everyone it was about Sheryl.

Anyway, Stevie is getting a lot of attention for her dedication... hmmm... Ann Wilson is also talking about the Supreme Court... Clint Eastwood is talking unborn babies and the Supreme Court... What a mess!!!!

[Macfan4life]

Silver Girl was written about Sheryl Crow, not Ginsburg. Did Steviebjustvssy that to suit the times or something? Back in 2003 shrr Ed was telling everyone it was about Sheryl.

Anyway, Stevie is getting a lot of attention for her dedication... hmmm... Ann Wilson is also talking about the Supreme Court... Clint Eastwood is talking unborn babies and the Supreme Court... What a mess!!!!
It was an inside joke for Homer ;)

[HomerMcvie]

I don't know if you if you know this but Silver Girl was written about RBG. She was a silver girl lost in a high tech world.



I highly doubt Stevie wrote this statement but she may have approved it or saw it later. Its much too childlike even for her. But you never know. It would have been nice for the statement to throw in a few lines from Silver Girl. The last line should have read....she was our (silver) Girl

I'm sure she wrote it about whoever fits the situation currently at hand. She can rewrite history like a MF.

And I doubt anything is too childlike for her.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm so saddened to read about Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death.
To even mention Stevie's creds vs this amazing woman makes me cringe and quite frankly a little ill.

C'mon. $tevie stop acting like a child. Me me me me me me.....

Honor this amazing woman and move on. Step away from the keyboard you egomaniac :shocked:

[BombaySapphire3]

I know. That is what I thought too. She couldn’t resist putting that in there. She will be humbled soon. Her album is going to flop. People aren’t buying albums now and older artists have a really bad time. She’ll be lucky to sell 20k copies it. Sheryl crow couldn’t even sell 50k of her last non-live album.

Anyway, I have a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach about Ginsburg’s death. Violence and rioting has already been normalized. This may push people over the edge.

I think she knows that the album won't be a big seller. I would not compare her to Sheryl though...she does not have the same die hard fan base as La Nicks. I also think that this was her last big solo tour on that scale as was the Fakewood Mac tour last year.

[Jondalar]

I think she knows that the album won't be a big seller. I would not compare her to Sheryl though...she does not have the same die hard fan base as La Nicks. I also think that this was her last big solo tour on that scale as was the Fakewood Mac tour last year.

Her die hard fan base is almost extinct and she did it herself. She lost a lot of fans over Lindsey’s firing. Many people will not forgive for that. She ruined any chance of them recording again. No one cares about this new, fake Fleetwood Mac group. Hardly anyone posts anymore.

Her new album is behind Bella Donna and Crystal Visions on sales and it’s a brand new album. Even though it’s just a Live album it should be #1. Not good for her.

[BombaySapphire3]

Her die hard fan base is almost extinct and she did it herself. She lost a lot of fans over Lindsey’s firing. Many people will not forgive for that. She ruined any chance of them recording again. No one cares about this new, fake Fleetwood Mac group. Hardly anyone posts anymore.

Her new album is behind Bella Donna and Crystal Visions on sales and it’s a brand new album. Even though it’s just a Live album it should be #1. Not good for her.

:laugh: The Ledge board is not a good metric of how many die hard fans remain plenty of them continue to paint Lindsey as the villain. I really don't think that she is concerned with new album sales anymore . If really needs the money she could pimp out her songs for ads .Dreams and Landslide alone should be worth millions. BTW I think that they should all retire now and no longer tour in any capacity .Their vocal skills are too diminished.

[Jondalar]

:laugh: The Ledge board is not a good metric of how many die hard fans remain plenty of them continue to paint Lindsey as the villain. I really don't think that she is concerned with new album sales anymore . If really needs the money she could pimp out her songs for ads .Dreams and Landslide alone should be worth millions. BTW I think that they should all retire now and no longer tour in any capacity .Their vocal skills are too diminished.

Who said number one? I’m talking about being able to sale 50,000 copies of it, not 4 million. Stevie has always cared about sales and the album flopping should settle her ego a little. Bella Donna is not selling many copies these days and the new album can’t even beat that.

[BombaySapphire3]

Who said number one? I’m talking about being able to sale 50,000 copies of it, not 4 million. Stevie has always cared about sales and the album flopping should settle her ego a little. Bella Donna is not selling many copies these days and the new album can’t even beat that.

If her ego hasn't been "settled " yet it ain't never gonna be .I'm afraid that ship had sailed many ,many years ago.

[sleepless child]

I think the thought behind her letter was nice, but she always has to bring it around herself. I am still bewildered as to why she never said a thing when Keith Olsen passed away. Not famous enough?

[HomerMcvie]

I think the thought behind her letter was nice, but she always has to bring it around herself. I am still bewildered as to why she never said a thing when Keith Olsen passed away. Not famous enough?

EXACTLY. Not an opportunity for her.

[sodascouts]

I cringed at the wording as well but at least she's trying. I think in her mind it was a big compliment...

[Macfan4life]

Many/most celebrities who actually tweet alot have assistants do it. There are actually classes in how a celebrity should tweet....not too much....and how often it should happen.
I don't believe Stevie personally wrote this statement. I say this not because I am defending her from arrogance but it's just odd and even with her arrogance, it still does not sound like her. I realize I am probably in the minority but she is too consumed with other things than to put out a statement. Didn't she take pride in saying she does not tweet, etc.
That ending is just too much for me and is coming from someone really immature. It sounds like its coming from someone getting legs in the celebrity statement business.

[secondhandchain]

"As a two-time Rock and Roll of Fame inductee, the first female to be inducted twice, compared to 22 men been inducted twice, I Stevie Nicks, induct Ruth Bader Ginsburg into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of my life-"
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At least she didn't make it about herself...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

OMFG she is inSUFFERABLE NOW!!!

[Jondalar]

Many/most celebrities who actually tweet alot have assistants do it. There are actually classes in how a celebrity should tweet....not too much....and how often it should happen.
I don't believe Stevie personally wrote this statement. I say this not because I am defending her from arrogance but it's just odd and even with her arrogance, it still does not sound like her. I realize I am probably in the minority but she is too consumed with other things than to put out a statement. Didn't she take pride in saying she does not tweet, etc.
That ending is just too much for me and is coming from someone really immature. It sounds like its coming from someone getting legs in the celebrity statement business.

She most definitely did write this statement. Sounds just like her. It’s totally her. Her immaturity got Lindsey fired don’t forget.

[HomerMcvie]

Her immaturity got Lindsey fired don’t forget.

And THAT'S her legacy.
And theirs.
F*cking ridiculous. I hope she's happy now. @#$%^&*()*&^%

[vivfox]

So what friend tiptoed into her room and gave her the news? I don’t think she was referring to Karen.

And no offense to RBG. It’s not as if my friends and I have not spoken about her a lot in the last three months and hoped and prayed that she could just hold on a little longer. We have. She is known and has been on everyone’s tongue lately. But if someone tiptoed into my room and said that Ruth died I would still go, “Wait, what? Who??”

First I would think they were referring to a friend of my mother’s named Ruth and my next guess would be Ruth Wilson. I really don’t refer to the Notorious RBG as Ruth.

But, if they shook me awake and said Stevie died, Stevie would be glad to know that the very first Stevie I would think of would be her. The next Stevie would be Stevie Wonder.


I def. think it was Karen who tiptoed into her room.

Wait, what?? I thought Stevie was already dead to you? How could she die twice?

The letter Stevie typed was a perfect tribute until she added in that 22 men crap. It was such an eye rolling moment of embarrassment for me.

[aleuzzi]

There’s no doubt in my mind that she felt something. Still, much of this open letter sounds engineered to fit the zeitgeist. Stevie mentions her two-time RRHOF win in connection with RBG’s pioneering work for women’s rights. Her own speech at the RRHOF, however, was decidedly post-feminist. In her view, finding the right men were an essential part of her climb to solo stardom. And the last thing she said in that speech is how she has trouble listening to “another girl”....

“Landslide” was written for RBG and her death. Stevie realizes this now.

[UnwindedDreams]

And the last thing she said in that speech is how she has trouble listening to “another girl”....


Right. She said she doesn't listen to anything that anyone tells her to do, especially when it's a girl
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That was redacted from the HBO program, but I was at Barclays and heard it.

She spoke in Donald-style before he and Chris Christie spoke that way:lol:, dropping SAT vocabulary words to impress when they popped in the mind.

[Steviegirl]

[QUOTE=Jondalar;1260061]September 18, 2020

RBG,

As a two-time Rock and Roll of Fame inductee, the first female to be inducted twice, compared to 22 men been inducted twice,

Uh, Congratulations?
I didn't think I could be more grossed out than when she fired Lindsey.
I didn't think I could be more cringed out than when she rambled on like an incoherent, UNGRACIOUS loon during the Rock Hall speech.
I didn't think I could be more creeped out than when she said she doesn't "agree with anything anyone says, especially when it's a girl."
I stand corrected. Self-promotion on the coattails of the death of feminist icon and legend RBG is a new low. Jeebus. Yuck.

[HomerMcvie]

She's such a pioneer of women's rights!!!:wavey:

[Macfan4life]

She's such a pioneer of women's rights!!!:wavey:
You have to admit she's come along way from being the house cat ;)

[HomerMcvie]

You have to admit she's come along way from being the house cat ;)

I will admit that she accomplished a lot, with minimal talent.


Makes you wonder how she'd have gone if the world hadn't wanted to sleep with her...

[aleuzzi]

There’s no question she deserves the recognition she has received for being such an electric performer with FM and on her own. Nowadays, she’s very much the parody of that former self, but still, what she was was incredible and original.

But let’s not pretend she was a pioneer for women’s rights or that her message has ever interrogated gender stereotypes or broken barriers for women. She was a dynamic woman who happened to seek artistic and professional support from the men she paid and/or enchanted into doing her bidding.

She has had her “girls” sing with her (to sound like CSN), she had a woman co-writer (Sandy Stewart), a woman who played congas and percussion on her first two tours, and a woman engineer on one or two of her albums. But wouldn’t it have been great if she built up her solo songs with women producers and musicians? Instead, each of her albums comes off sort of like a valentine to whomever she was involved with at the time.

[tothegypsy]

So you're saying she dated Sheryl Crow? ;)

[HomerMcvie]

So you're saying she dated Sheryl Crow? ;)

She seemed to "date"(cough) anyone and everyone who produced her music. That was her signature.

[aleuzzi]

So you're saying she dated Sheryl Crow? ;)

Touché. But SC was the exception, not the rule. And she doesn’t get recognition in Stevie’s RRHOF speech like Fiskin, Iovine, and Petty do.

[The Catdancer]

I will admit that she accomplished a lot, with minimal talent.


Makes you wonder how she'd have gone if the world hadn't wanted to sleep with her...

BINGO!!! If she wouldn't have Lindsey, Paul Fishkin, Jimmy Iovine, Rupert Hine etc. she'd still be a waitress or singing in bars and clubs.

[The Catdancer]

Her die hard fan base is almost extinct and she did it herself. She lost a lot of fans over Lindsey’s firing. Many people will not forgive for that. She ruined any chance of them recording again. No one cares about this new, fake Fleetwood Mac group. Hardly anyone posts anymore.

Her new album is behind Bella Donna and Crystal Visions on sales and it’s a brand new album. Even though it’s just a Live album it should be #1. Not good for her.

Yep, I've loved this woman for more than 40 years and now I loathe her. She has an ugly, dark personality now. It's all about her. She became a narcissist who doesn't care.
I don't believe for a second that she's sincere about the Notorious RBG. If she loved her so much why hasn't she mentioned RBG ever before??
This is just about herself, a desperate attempt to stay relevant.

I do not forgive her for having Lindsey fired, for giving Mick the ultimatum:"It's him or me?" Or for the fact that he nearly died and she never contacted him. She seems to forget that he made her songs into hits and that she needed his help with Soldiers Angel on IYD.
She thinks she's the bomb when in actual fact she's a POS.

[bombaysaffires]

Yep, I've loved this woman for more than 40 years and now I loathe her. She has an ugly, dark personality now. It's all about her. She became a narcissist who doesn't care.
I don't believe for a second that she's sincere about the Notorious RBG. If she loved her so much why hasn't she mentioned RBG ever before??
This is just about herself, a desperate attempt to stay relevant.

I do not forgive her for having Lindsey fired, for giving Mick the ultimatum:"It's him or me?" Or for the fact that he nearly died and she never contacted him. She seems to forget that he made her songs into hits and that she needed his help with Soldiers Angel on IYD.
She thinks she's the bomb when in actual fact she's a POS.

Oh he's bailed her out on MANY of her solo songs over the years. Even her hero, Tom, admitted in an interview (I think in her Behind the Music actually) that LB is "still her best producer" and that he (Tom) would be struggling to figure out something on one of her songs and then she'd ask LB for help and he'd say do this, this, and that and Tom would hear LB's ideas and go "Oh, of course" (his words). She HATES that, until she's stuck and Tom or Dave can't figure it out and then she asks his help.

I love when she says NOW how she and Chris had some pact about never letting men in the biz push them around and walking into a room all 'fierce' or whatever, but if you go back and listen to a lot of her old interviews it's not that at ALL. In one of her Bella Donna interviews she talks about dating JD and Don and being around the Eagles and how she learned very quickly "they were not interested in my career or FM at all" and that her strategy was to be "very quiet and unassuming around them and just trick them to death" ie charm them into helping her etc. Not very feminist if you ask me. And she's said a TON of sh*t like that over the years. I mean, jeebus, she let Jimmy push her downstairs into his basement to hide her away from Tom and she put up with it. WTF?? :distress:

[johnnystorms]

Oh he's bailed her out on MANY of her solo songs over the years. Even her hero, Tom, admitted in an interview (I think in her Behind the Music actually) that LB is "still her best producer" and that he (Tom) would be struggling to figure out something on one of her songs and then she'd ask LB for help and he'd say do this, this, and that and Tom would hear LB's ideas and go "Oh, of course" (his words). She HATES that, until she's stuck and Tom or Dave can't figure it out and then she asks his help.

I love when she says NOW how she and Chris had some pact about never letting men in the biz push them around and walking into a room all 'fierce' or whatever, but if you go back and listen to a lot of her old interviews it's not that at ALL. In one of her Bella Donna interviews she talks about dating JD and Don and being around the Eagles and how she learned very quickly "they were not interested in my career or FM at all" and that her strategy was to be "very quiet and unassuming around them and just trick them to death" ie charm them into helping her etc. Not very feminist if you ask me. And she's said a TON of sh*t like that over the years. I mean, jeebus, she let Jimmy push her downstairs into his basement to hide her away from Tom and she put up with it. WTF?? :distress:

please tell me what you referred to regarding Jimmy pushing jher into a basement.

[UnwindedDreams]

please tell me what you referred to regarding Jimmy pushing jher into a basement. You can watch The Defiant Ones and her full Rock and Roll Hall of Fame acceptance speech to hear about the basement, and the pizza bagels too.

Push wasn't meant that he made her tumble down stairs; push as in shoo, demand, direct, or force - not place his hands on her and thrust.

[mitzo]

Amazing how the threads in the Stevie forum are the only ones with any action here.

[UnwindedDreams]

Amazing how the threads in the Stevie forum are the only ones with any action here.

What a brilliant and award-worthy post. Did you attend Harvard or Yale?!