View Full Version : 24 Karat Gold Tour Live In Concert LP/CD Available for Pre-Order
~GoldDustWoman~
09-10-2020, 05:14 PM
A Live LP for the 24 Karat Gold Tour is available as a Pre Order on Barnes & Noble, it is exclusive to them and comes out on 11/20. There is also a 2 CD Digi Pack available on Rough Trade that comes out on 10/30.
Barnes & Noble (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/24-karat-gold-tour-live-in-concert/35328264?ean=4050538640229)
Rough Trade (https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/stevie-nicks/live-in-concert-the-24-karat-gold-tour?fbclid=IwAR1diJeKhNqvMo58xhYILnigsMfJkEYC_h-x121dXhZ_nuRCCrsOzm2XRTg)
Sidenote: If this post isn't allowed i'll put this info under the other thread where another poster was asking about it! :)
stevierocks87
09-10-2020, 06:31 PM
Hopefully these different audio release exclusives point to a widespread video release! Surely it's not only going to be an audio release???
jcalzaretta
09-10-2020, 07:35 PM
you can see that Stand Back, Gypsy, Edge of Seventeen and Crying in the Night are included. I wonder what else makes it. Cannot wait. I have to think that Moonlight and If You Were My Love make it too!
UnwindedDreams
09-11-2020, 08:36 AM
A Live LP for the 24 Karat Gold Tour is available as a Pre Order on Barnes & Noble, it is exclusive to them and comes out on 11/20. There is also a 2 CD Digi Pack available on Rough Trade that comes out on 10/30.
Barnes & Noble (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/24-karat-gold-tour-live-in-concert/35328264?ean=4050538640229)
Rough Trade (https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/stevie-nicks/live-in-concert-the-24-karat-gold-tour?fbclid=IwAR1diJeKhNqvMo58xhYILnigsMfJkEYC_h-x121dXhZ_nuRCCrsOzm2XRTg)
Sidenote: If this post isn't allowed i'll put this info under the other thread where another poster was asking about it! :)
Not available to preorder now. Might've been more appropriate to build on the other thread since no official announcements were made.
If the Ledge Authority sees fit to delete the thread I started, that's cool.
BlueLight
09-11-2020, 09:34 AM
Not available to preorder now. Might've been more appropriate to build on the other thread since no official announcements were made.
If the Ledge Authority sees fit to delete the thread I started, that's cool.
BN must’ve pulled the trigger too soon; I imagine a bigger announcement is forthcoming. That’s said, my pre-order is still active!
~GoldDustWoman~
09-11-2020, 11:02 AM
BN must’ve pulled the trigger too soon; I imagine a bigger announcement is forthcoming. That’s said, my pre-order is still active!
I wasn't sure if that means the orders are still active I guess that means we don't have to pre-order them? :shocked:
sleepless child
09-11-2020, 11:14 AM
They've taken it down. bummer. Hopefully it will be back up soon.
Jondalar
09-11-2020, 01:21 PM
How does she make money off this Limited Edition stuff?
~GoldDustWoman~
09-11-2020, 01:48 PM
How does she make money off this Limited Edition stuff?
Pre-Sale/Sales? Not really sure, I know for instance the Vinyl Please Exlusive record can be bought on Amazon now for higher then what it was on VMP. What about say the Rhino releases that she doesn't promote does she make money on those?
paleshadow
09-15-2020, 12:41 PM
Supposedly the official announcement is tomorrow. I read the B&N vinyl is on "limited edition crystal clear vinyl". They did that with Crystal Visions and I had to return it 3x because it was defective. I wonder if there will be a previously unreleased studio song included.
Jondalar
09-15-2020, 12:46 PM
Supposedly the official announcement is tomorrow. I read the B&N vinyl is on "limited edition crystal clear vinyl". They did that with Crystal Visions and I had to return it 3x because it was defective. I wonder if there will be a previously unreleased studio song included.
She is on twitter and all she wrote is Tomorrow... great photo of her though.
So we know she is releasing something tomorrow.
~GoldDustWoman~
09-15-2020, 01:58 PM
Showings for the film are up on a AUS Theater website, and the album is up on Apple but not for pre-order just for preview (only Gypsy is available). I'm guessing this is what will be shared tomorrow.
Avoca Beach Theater (https://www.avocabeachpicturetheatre.com.au/stevie-nicks-24k-gold-3)
Apple Music (https://music.apple.com/nz/album/live-in-concert-the-24-karat-gold-tour/1528986385)
~GoldDustWoman~
09-15-2020, 01:59 PM
Supposedly the official announcement is tomorrow. I read the B&N vinyl is on "limited edition crystal clear vinyl". They did that with Crystal Visions and I had to return it 3x because it was defective. I wonder if there will be a previously unreleased studio song included.
That's what I heard that many were unhappy with the quality of the vinyl
Jondalar
09-15-2020, 02:55 PM
Showings for the film are up on a AUS Theater website, and the album is up on Apple but not for pre-order just for preview (only Gypsy is available). I'm guessing this is what will be shared tomorrow.
Avoca Beach Theater (https://www.avocabeachpicturetheatre.com.au/stevie-nicks-24k-gold-3)
Apple Music (https://music.apple.com/nz/album/live-in-concert-the-24-karat-gold-tour/1528986385)
I don’t see it on Apple.
~GoldDustWoman~
09-15-2020, 07:59 PM
I realized when my friend pointed out, that what is on Apple is only available in the New Zealand store not the US Store. This is so freaking confusing. Really hoping whatever Stevie posts about tomorrow will clarify what is being released and when and where for this whole project because its such a big cluster right now.
~GoldDustWoman~
09-16-2020, 12:01 AM
Gypsy (Live) From 24 Karat Gold Tour Album is up on Spotify!!
Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/7vj4ZgCZJdEdpQZyG0kZ6y)
Jondalar
09-16-2020, 02:55 AM
Gypsy (Live) From 24 Karat Gold Tour Album is up on Spotify!!
Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/7vj4ZgCZJdEdpQZyG0kZ6y)
I actually liked it. Deeper voice and the harmonies are a little different than usual.
What I really like is the album cover. I like the colors, font and photo and how it all ties into the 24k album. It’s a quality album cover.
Andyleo
09-16-2020, 05:03 AM
13196This is on iTunes Australia, available 30th October
sleepless child
09-16-2020, 06:30 AM
It's back on Rough Trade and it's also on US itunes.
jalfim1
09-16-2020, 07:46 AM
Target has 2 cd set "with limited edition album art"
Only at Target
Street Date: October 30, 2020
Description
01 Stand Back (Live)
02 Crying In The Night (Live)
03 If You Were My Love (Live)
04 Gold Dust Woman (Live)
05 Edge Of Seventeen (Live)
06 Rhiannon (Live)
07 Landslide (Live)
Compact Disc 2
01 Gold And Braid (Live)
02 If Anyone Falls (Live)
03 Stop Draggin' My Heart Around (Live)
04 Belle Fleur (Live)
05 Gypsy (Live)
06 Wild Heart / Bella Donna (Live)
07 Enchanted (Live)
08 New Orleans (Live)
09 Starshine (Live)
10 Moonlight (A Vampire's Dream) [Live]
Jondalar
09-16-2020, 10:01 AM
Why is she advertising the concert, but not the album? Most people aren’t noticing that a live album is coming out and they can’t go to the concert. Doesn’t make sense. And is there a DVD coming of this performance?
Richard B
09-16-2020, 10:13 AM
https://www.stevienicksfilm.com
Website live...guess Target is the one to buy for the complete 2-CD set. That said, I am not seeing any information regarding the actual film releasing on home video. I assume, like many films, it will release later after the screenings on blu-ray/dvd....wouldn't mind a 4K release of the film either.
mitzo
09-16-2020, 10:41 AM
Why is she advertising the concert, but not the album? Most people aren’t noticing that a live album is coming out and they can’t go to the concert. Doesn’t make sense. And is there a DVD coming of this performance?
I am confused whether we are getting a convert vid and album, or just the latter.
Jondalar
09-16-2020, 11:09 AM
She is getting a lot of negative comments online about asking people to see this in theaters. Some people are still scared of the virus and want this streamed instead. They don’t like her asking people to go to theaters, especially since she posted stuff about the virus. She also didn’t mention if this was going to be on DVD and streamed at all.
sorcerer999
09-16-2020, 12:04 PM
I am confused whether we are getting a convert vid and album, or just the latter.
My best guess is that we're only getting the CD/Vinyl in October. But I'd be willing to bet they'll release a DVD/Blu-ray sometime next year. These little concert film distribution companies (in this case, Trafalgar) like to pull these "one or two night ONLY" theatre events and then release them on Home Media several months later.
I guess we'll see what happens.
~GoldDustWoman~
09-16-2020, 12:35 PM
Was discussing it with a fellow fan and was wondering if perhaps they already had some type of contract to screen it and had no choice but to finally release it. Since over the past few months a few dates for a screening would pop up but then disappear. I'm sure she doesn't want people to get ill but she may have had to fufill some type of contractual obligation.
I did notice a few people indicating they were upset with it being in theaters asking if there was a PPV option.
:shrug:
Jondalar
09-16-2020, 12:53 PM
Was discussing it with a fellow fan and was wondering if perhaps they already had some type of contract to screen it and had no choice but to finally release it. Since over the past few months a few dates for a screening would pop up but then disappear. I'm sure she doesn't want people to get ill but she may have had to fufill some type of contractual obligation.
I did notice a few people indicating they were upset with it being in theaters asking if there was a PPV option.
:shrug:
Are you hinting around that you wouldn’t die for Stevie!!!! 😡😡😡😡
cbBen
09-16-2020, 03:39 PM
Stevie Nicks Announces 24 Karat Gold Concert Film and Live Album
https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/stevie-nicks/stevie-nicks-announces-24-karat-gold-live-album-an/?utm_source=PMNTNL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=200916
Jondalar
09-17-2020, 03:42 AM
You know, I’m still mad at Stevie but I find it impressive that at 72 years old, she is still able to release an album with some fanfare. Not that the album is going to sale well. Even modern day acts like Miley Cyrus struggle to get a Gold album. But it’s something that at such an old age she was able to release 24k gold and then release a live album from that tour with a push a record company. These are classy releases. That’s really something. I don’t know if it’s just because she is rock royalty or that her later releases are doing better than expected. However it’s surprising. I think the artwork from the new looks great and it’s another classy release. I wonder if thinks this is her last album.
kak125
09-17-2020, 11:34 AM
I am really excited for this release but am hoping for some sort of DVD or Itunes release at some point. I definitely won't be going into a movie theater to see it just not worth the risk. I'm really happy they used footage from the Pittsburgh show! I had to slow down the video to make sure. I was in 7th row right side of the floor.
BombaySapphire3
09-18-2020, 12:44 AM
I actually liked it. Deeper voice and the harmonies are a little different than usual.
What I really like is the album cover. I like the colors, font and photo and how it all ties into the 24k album. It’s a quality album cover.
She couldn't pull Gypsy off live almost 40 years ago so why on earth would she be able to now? The song was a product of studio wizardy. This new version is monotone and droning .
HomerMcvie
09-18-2020, 01:08 AM
She couldn't pull Gypsy off live almost 40 years ago so why on earth would she be able to now? The song was a product of studio wizardy. This new version is monotone and droning .
She's never done it well. Back when the Mirage video came out, we made fun of it even then(when I was a huge Stevie fan). She did that entire first line in a horrible monotone.
Macfan4life
09-18-2020, 02:52 AM
She's never done it well. Back when the Mirage video came out, we made fun of it even then(when I was a huge Stevie fan). She did that entire first line in a horrible monotone.
And it fit the song perfectly. Gypsy builds and explodes with one of the best bridge vocals of any song ever and then goes back down. It fits with the music perfectly. She lets the music shine and back her with a nice balance. Her not over singing in the verse part really works with the song musically and makes the bridge that much more powerful.
A Mariah Carey version of the song would not have worked ;)
stevierocks87
09-18-2020, 07:28 AM
She's never done it well. Back when the Mirage video came out, we made fun of it even then(when I was a huge Stevie fan). She did that entire first line in a horrible monotone.
I know the album was sweetened a lot in post-production, but I always thought the Dance version of Gypsy was pretty sublime. It's def gotten worse over time since then.
HomerMcvie
09-18-2020, 09:50 AM
And it fit the song perfectly. Gypsy builds and explodes with one of the best bridge vocals of any song ever and then goes back down. It fits with the music perfectly. She lets the music shine and back her with a nice balance. Her not over singing in the verse part really works with the song musically and makes the bridge that much more powerful.
A Mariah Carey version of the song would not have worked ;)
I'm sure that's the sound Lindsey, Richard and Ken were going for...."Hey Stevie, don't over sing this. Stick to a one note range for the verses.":lol:
Macfan4life
09-18-2020, 11:03 AM
I'm sure that's the sound Lindsey, Richard and Ken were going for...."Hey Stevie, don't over sing this. Stick to a one note range for the verses.":lol:
Gypsy is not my all time favorite FM song but I definitely like it alot. Its what I would say is the perfect song IMHO. The intro, the beat, the music, the melody, the lyrics, the bridge, the guitar ending and even the crazy overdubs. It all jells together (mostly because of Lindsey) and I think the song is also perfect vocally. Would not change a thing......well maybe a little chop sticks here and there ;)
Did you know that in real life Gypsy was also a Silver Girl living in a high tech world?
Little known fact just to pass on.
BigAl84
09-18-2020, 11:04 AM
The punched up audience applause in parts is super obvious and annoying.
Better than I expected overall, but I'm sure this has been fine-tuned (literally) in post-production for weeks.
HomerMcvie
09-18-2020, 11:08 AM
Did you know that in real life Gypsy was also a Silver Girl living in a high tech world?
That really is one of the worst songs in the history of music.
HomerMcvie
09-18-2020, 11:10 AM
The punched up audience applause in parts is super obvious and annoying.
Better than I expected overall, but I'm sure this has been fine-tuned (literally) in post-production for weeks.
I never realized(back then) why they rarely show the guitar solos up close...
It's because they're nearly all going to be overdubbed, and the fingers won't match what you're hearing!
tothegypsy
09-18-2020, 04:26 PM
I like this new recording of Gypsy, but I think this will always be the best live version:
https://youtu.be/m5HeRgOVOMw
sleepless child
09-18-2020, 05:17 PM
I like this new recording of Gypsy, but I think this will always be the best live version:
https://youtu.be/m5HeRgOVOMw
I agree. I'm not real crazy about the 24 Karat live version. It seems overly glossy and when she sings "Hey Baby" you hear the crowd cheering. It is annoying.
sleepless child
09-18-2020, 05:18 PM
Yes, the 2000 Phoenix Gypsy with Lindsey is the best version.
Macfan4life
09-18-2020, 06:18 PM
I know I am probably in the minority but I always liked the Mirage country feel of Gypsy live especially with Christine and Lindsey on backing vocals.
I saw the 25K Gold tour and it was good. This live CD does peak my interest. She did some good songs. I dont care for the watered down SDMHA and while I LOVE a good rocking live Edge of 17, Stevie dropped her best written verse which is the last verse of Edge of 17. However the song has 10 more minutes of doves crying which is probably the oddest decision of her career. I understand she wanted to shorten the live version but cutting the best verse is sacrilegious IMHO. The live versions of Gold N Braid and a rocking If Anyone Falls are pretty good too. Crying in the Night rocks live too.
[QUOTE=Macfan4life;1260058]I know I am probably in the minority but I always liked the Mirage country feel of Gypsy live especially with Christine and Lindsey on backing vocals.
I remember how shocked I was when I saw this live version of Gypsy on the HBO Mirage broadcast back in 1982. It was then I realized there was a studio version and a live version of this band.
Jondalar
09-18-2020, 09:56 PM
The second single is Crying in the Night. They have the time beside it in iTunes, which means it is going to be released.
I never saw this tour. However, I really liked the 24K Gold album and I notice she is singing a lot of songs from it. Plus, she has new versions of Moonlight and Wild Heart/Bella Donna on it. I also really like the cover. It’s a great live album cover. I also believe it will be her last solo album. I’ve decided to buy it although I’m still mad her. I’m starving for something Fleetwood Mac but without Lindsey I don’t consider them Fleetwood Mac anymore. They are over and it’s her and Mick’s fault.
TheWildHeart67
09-19-2020, 12:52 AM
I guarantee there will be a DVD and streaming release. No question about it
sodascouts
09-20-2020, 12:58 PM
Why is she advertising the concert, but not the album? Most people aren’t noticing that a live album is coming out and they can’t go to the concert. Doesn’t make sense. And is there a DVD coming of this performance?
When I couldn't find a CD version on Amazon, I assumed there wasn't one, and that I'd have to wait until December for the release of the rest. I didn't think to look for a Target exclusive! This is so bizarre that it wouldn't even be advertised on her social media or website!
RockyRaccoon
09-21-2020, 12:34 PM
No mention of Chrissie Hynde in any of the promotional material. I hope she's present on the album, that duet was the highlight of the tour but I know she wasn't there every night, would be a shame if they used a version that she wasn't on.
Jondalar
09-21-2020, 12:57 PM
When I couldn't find a CD version on Amazon, I assumed there wasn't one, and that I'd have to wait until December for the release of the rest. I didn't think to look for a Target exclusive! This is so bizarre that it wouldn't even be advertised on her social media or website!
I don't know if people are aware of this, but for the first time since the early 1980s, LPs have outsold CDs. So now, CDs are the lowest selling form of music. I don't understand it, but LPs surpassed it. Most people stream or buy digital. I guess it's not soo surprising that the CD is only being sold in one place.
1. Digital Release - available October 30
2. CD version - (contains exclusive art), October 30, only sold at Target
2. Crystal Clear Vinyl - available November 20, only sold at Barnes and Noble
3. Black Vinyl - available December 4th or January 15th, only at Amazon
BigAl84
09-21-2020, 01:39 PM
No mention of Chrissie Hynde in any of the promotional material. I hope she's present on the album, that duet was the highlight of the tour but I know she wasn't there every night, would be a shame if they used a version that she wasn't on.
LOL I wouldn't count on it. The version with Chrissie would be something new. Expect a version with Waddy (as usual), be suprised if a Chrissie version is included.
Alex
bombaysaffires
09-21-2020, 07:54 PM
Was it this album that she didn't get to tour with right away because of a Mac tour, or was it IYD? I recall Mick talking about how she wanted to spend time promoting whichever album it was because it got short shrift and she couldn't tour it until after the Mac tour or something.... now I'm getting confused in my old age. But there was one album where she didn't get to promote it as she would have liked and it just "broke her heart".... maybe that was IYD and that subsequent making-of movie?? Someone must remember.
Macfan4life
09-22-2020, 04:32 AM
LOL I wouldn't count on it. The version with Chrissie would be something new. Expect a version with Waddy (as usual), be suprised if a Chrissie version is included.
Alex
The strange part is the shows she recorded with video were with Chrissie. So it would be weird she was not included.
cactusjack
09-22-2020, 05:08 AM
I highly doubt Ms Autopen Hynde will appear. It would weaken the royalty stream too much. If she was on there it would be used as a selling point.
BigAl84
09-22-2020, 08:41 AM
The strange part is the shows she recorded with video were with Chrissie. So it would be weird she was not included.
Oh I agree, but let's remember who we're talking about here.
HomerMcvie
09-22-2020, 10:01 AM
I highly doubt Ms Autopen Hynde will appear. It would weaken the royalty stream too much. If she was on there it would be used as a selling point.
Another woman in it would lessen Stevie's importance. That's what Karen says, anyway...
Macfan4life
09-22-2020, 10:22 AM
Another woman in it would lessen Stevie's importance. That's what Karen says, anyway...
$tevie can be cheap. I remember a Street Angel interview she did in 1994 and the radio person asked her why there was no video for her latest single off her new album. $tevie went on to make the most ridiculous statements that videos cost money and if the album is not successful she may have to downsize in her older years, etc. What? She was definitely on the downslide of her career but you are one of the most famous female rockers in history. What she made in interest in a week could have paid for a cheap $50k video.
Maybe just maybe she knows the CD will not sell well and that $50k she might have to pay Chrissie may kill her profit margin. Of course I have no idea what the royalties would be but if she is left off for that reason its pretty darn cheap of her.
BigAl84
09-22-2020, 10:46 AM
I want to know who got in her ear about releasing a live album/film of all things. She's been explicitly clear about not making albums because they don't sell enough and they cost money to make (or perhaps that's just her Fleetwood Mac BS MO). I guess the balance sheet on this one was in her favor or it was another contractual obligation.
HomerMcvie
09-22-2020, 11:04 AM
$tevie can be cheap. I remember a Street Angel interview she did in 1994 and the radio person asked her why there was no video for her latest single off her new album. $tevie went on to make the most ridiculous statements that videos cost money and if the album is not successful she may have to downsize in her older years, etc. What? She was definitely on the downslide of her career but you are one of the most famous female rockers in history. What she made in interest in a week could have paid for a cheap $50k video.
Maybe just maybe she knows the CD will not sell well and that $50k she might have to pay Chrissie may kill her profit margin. Of course I have no idea what the royalties would be but if she is left off for that reason its pretty darn cheap of her.
Da Googles says she's worth 75M. So 50K is a lot of money to her.:lol:
I do wonder how many "yes friends" she supports.
Oddly, Google says Lindsey is worth 80M.
Christine is 65M.
John is 50M.
Mick is 30M.
I would have thought that a big star like Stevie would have been worth double what her back up band is....
Macfan4life
09-22-2020, 11:25 AM
Da Googles says she's worth 75M. So 50K is a lot of money to her.:lol:
I do wonder how many "yes friends" she supports.
Oddly, Google says Lindsey is worth 80M.
Christine is 65M.
John is 50M.
Mick is 30M.
I would have thought that a big star like Stevie would have been worth double what her back up band is....
Wow, Mick only worth 30 million. OMG his divorces, drugs and horrible investment deals. No wonder he is forced to lease out parts of his restaurant and do meet and greets. During the past decade, he has to have made at least 15 million from touring. As they say, a fool and his money go separate ways. It really shows the motivation for backing Stevie for firing Lindsey. Mick could not have survived financially without her in the band. Like they say......follow the money.
HomerMcvie
09-22-2020, 11:36 AM
Wow, Mick only worth 30 million. OMG his divorces, drugs and horrible investment deals. No wonder he is forced to lease out parts of his restaurant and do meet and greets. During the past decade, he has to have made at least 15 million from touring. As they say, a fool and his money go separate ways. It really shows the motivation for backing Stevie for firing Lindsey. Mick could not have survived financially with her in the band. Like they say......follow the money.
I'm SHOCKED that the damned fool has managed to hang on to 15M!
He really is the poster child of how not to manage money. Idiot.
Jondalar
09-22-2020, 12:00 PM
Da Googles says she's worth 75M. So 50K is a lot of money to her.:lol:
I do wonder how many "yes friends" she supports.
Oddly, Google says Lindsey is worth 80M.
Christine is 65M.
John is 50M.
Mick is 30M.
I would have thought that a big star like Stevie would have been worth double what her back up band is....
Yeah that is wrong. They had her at 75M for 15 years. She is worth a lot more.
RockyRaccoon
09-22-2020, 01:36 PM
The punched up audience applause in parts is super obvious and annoying.
Better than I expected overall, but I'm sure this has been fine-tuned (literally) in post-production for weeks.
Seeing that it is a Joe Thomas production is a worrying sign especially as I am a Brian Wilson fan, Thomas has been Wilson’s co-producer on and off for a long time now and especially when it comes to live recordings, he tends to over sweeten things to the point that they sound artificial. Though Thomas also did the Fleetwood Mac Live in Boston recording which I’ve always liked. So we’ll see.
TheWildHeart67
09-23-2020, 09:28 AM
Somebody mentioned that Vinyl albums are outselling CDs now. Not entirely true. The average vinyl album cost is up 290% to $28.00 each.
CDs still move more units. But more revenue was made off Vinyl because they cost $10-$13 more each.
It's still cool Vinyl is doing well though.
vivfox
09-24-2020, 09:44 AM
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Oh no this looks like another one of those, "Let's redo every vocal in the studio and try to match it up to the live video of(whatever song)."
Why can't we just get an actual live concert recording?
ricohv
09-24-2020, 10:10 AM
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Oh no this looks like another one of those, "Let's redo every vocal in the studio and try to match it up to the live video of(whatever song)."
Why can't we just get an actual live concert recording?
Why can't we just get an actual live concert recording AND why would we they choose to obviously beef up the audience reaction to her waving and singing the new, cringe-worthy lyrics "you say hey hey baby"? Seriously, like the audience would go nuts for THAT? Uggh.
sleepless child
09-24-2020, 10:48 AM
LOL! I'm trying to find myself in the audience, but I don't know if this is from the Pittsburgh show or not.
soul_drifter333
09-24-2020, 11:05 AM
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Oh no this looks like another one of those, "Let's redo every vocal in the studio and try to match it up to the live video of(whatever song)."
Why can't we just get an actual live concert recording?
My guess is because she sounds awful these days. :nod: From the trailer she even manages to destroy a simple song like Landslide. This appears to be Soundstage II, which I thought was easily her worse release even with all the redos. Give me Street Angel or the Red Concert over these recent bad sounding greatest hit live concerts any day. Hard pass.
vivfox
09-24-2020, 12:33 PM
Give me Street Angel or the Red Concert over these recent bad sounding greatest hit live concerts any day. Hard pass.
Red Rocks was the worst concert video ever made. I have an old article from Billboard Magazine written by the editors of that spectacle and they said how excruciating it was to produce that mess. That video and the FM Tango in the Night concert video are dreadful to watch. At least with this new video we will get update studio recordings of all these songs. For that reason I'll probably buy the version available from Target. But I have zero desire to sit in a movie theater for 2.5 hours to see a faked live performance, and that has nothing to do with covid. I don't live in pandemic fear like the majority of the world does, so I would go to the movies if I felt it was worth it.
Macfan4life
09-24-2020, 12:53 PM
LOL! I'm trying to find myself in the audience, but I don't know if this is from the Pittsburgh show or not.
LOL me too. I was there on the side of the stage :)
Now about the video. Disappointed but not surprising how everything is faked these days. Saw on this clip of gypsy the camera pans away way too many times for when the studio vocal does not match the lip sync.
Someone mentioned Red Rocks and Tango. I agree they are the worst video concerts ever. The lip syncing every song and how they are all made up differently. The far away shots shows actual live footage then zoom in again for lip syncing and the glamour face shots. At least on this one, Stevie is not staring the camera down again. That sh*t got anyone as hell watching Red Rocks especially with the different hair (live vs lip sync).
BombaySapphire3
09-24-2020, 01:00 PM
The live concert that was filmed for HBO and can be found on the deluxe and expanded Bella Donna is the best..she could still sing then.
soul_drifter333
09-24-2020, 01:53 PM
The live concert that was filmed for HBO and can be found on the deluxe and expanded Bella Donna is the best..she could still sing then.
Yes, that's my point. But I can still appreciate the warbly, growling vocals on Red Rocks more then her current voice. Even though Red Rocks is a mess, I must have watched it hundred of times, but it took me 4 or 5 times to make it through Soundstage ONE TIME completely. The CD for Soundstage is completely unlistenable. Everyone's taste is different, but I have no desire to hear her rerecord her songs in the studio or live with her current voice. Age takes it toll on everyone voice, but I really get the feeling she is singing in the nasal tone on purpose because she considers it her "trademark sound". After all her voice has won her 2 HOF awards, the leader of one of the most popular bands in the world, and the leader of women rights! :laugh:
Jondalar
09-24-2020, 11:34 PM
Yes, that's my point. But I can still appreciate the warbly, growling vocals on Red Rocks more then her current voice. Even though Red Rocks is a mess, I must have watched it hundred of times, but it took me 4 or 5 times to make it through Soundstage ONE TIME completely. The CD for Soundstage is completely unlistenable. Everyone's taste is different, but I have no desire to hear her rerecord her songs in the studio or live with her current voice. Age takes it toll on everyone voice, but I really get the feeling she is singing in the nasal tone on purpose because she considers it her "trademark sound". After all her voice has won her 2 HOF awards, the leader of one of the most popular bands in the world, and the leader of women rights! :laugh:
I liked How Still My Live, and Crash from the Soundstage CD, but that album was more of an afterthought. The real product was the DVD and they just through the Live CD in. I thought it was a weak attempt for a live album but there were a few things on it I really liked.
jbrownsjr
09-25-2020, 08:38 AM
Yes, that's my point. But I can still appreciate the warbly, growling vocals on Red Rocks more then her current voice. Even though Red Rocks is a mess, I must have watched it hundred of times, but it took me 4 or 5 times to make it through Soundstage ONE TIME completely. The CD for Soundstage is completely unlistenable. Everyone's taste is different, but I have no desire to hear her rerecord her songs in the studio or live with her current voice. Age takes it toll on everyone voice, but I really get the feeling she is singing in the nasal tone on purpose because she considers it her "trademark sound". After all her voice has won her 2 HOF awards, the leader of one of the most popular bands in the world, and the leader of women rights! :laugh:
This is my problem with trying to listen to her. It's torture to hear her butcher these amazing songs. Even after polishing it up, it still sounds horrible to me.
I actually loved the song Crash until she did it. It's just awful.
BigAl84
09-25-2020, 09:40 AM
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Oh no this looks like another one of those, "Let's redo every vocal in the studio and try to match it up to the live video of(whatever song)."
Why can't we just get an actual live concert recording?
LOL at this point I just assumed the only ACTUAL audio from the concert on this film is the band and crowd noise. Everything else has been re-recorded and glossed to the max.
BigAl84
09-25-2020, 09:48 AM
To me it seemed like there have been two "phases" within the past 10 years of the decline of her voice:
Phase 1 - the shouting, as we saw strongly in the 2009 Fleetwood Mac tour. Sustaining notes was replaced with shouting
Phase 2 - although the shouting may have gotten better in recent years, now shes struggling to hit the notes in the already lowered-key arangements that she previously didnt have issues with.
She can abruptly reach up to those higher notes like she does on the "I'm getting older too" part of landslide, but those gradual climbs from a high note to a low note or vis versa are where her issues really reveal themselves.
BigAl84
09-25-2020, 09:51 AM
I've always, always diliked the soundstage production from 2007 for the same reasons. It's such a sterile recording to begin with which makes the editing and patching painfully obvious. She could really benefit from a little reverb in her mic, but for whatever reason her mics are always dry as a bone which does nothing to help her.
Jondalar
09-27-2020, 01:29 PM
Her voice has been terrible since 1989.
sodascouts
09-27-2020, 05:28 PM
I don't know if people are aware of this, but for the first time since the early 1980s, LPs have outsold CDs. So now, CDs are the lowest selling form of music. I don't understand it, but LPs surpassed it. Most people stream or buy digital. I guess it's not soo surprising that the CD is only being sold in one place.
1. Digital Release - available October 30
2. CD version - (contains exclusive art), October 30, only sold at Target
2. Crystal Clear Vinyl - available November 20, only sold at Barnes and Noble
3. Black Vinyl - available December 4th or January 15th, only at Amazon
Thanks for the info.
My Target says preorders are sold out. Well, they sure aren’t working hard to make those numbers happen.
As far as the net worth I saw quoted by some, please don’t take those “net worth” sites as gospel. Certainly don’t use them as “proof” of anyone’s character strengths or flaws. They are not credible, no matter how many times you see them trotted out on Wikipedia and silly entertainment sites.
Jondalar
09-27-2020, 06:11 PM
Thanks for the info.
My Target says preorders are sold out. Well, they sure aren’t working hard to make those numbers happen.
As far as the net worth I saw quoted by some, please don’t take those “net worth” sites as gospel. Certainly don’t use them as “proof” of anyone’s character strengths or flaws. They are not credible, no matter how many times you see them trotted out on Wikipedia and silly entertainment sites.
Sold out? Really? People must want to sell it on eBay. Buying them up.
tothegypsy
09-27-2020, 07:13 PM
The preorders are sold out, but there will likely be more stock available on release day.
Jondalar
09-27-2020, 10:19 PM
The preorders are sold out, but there will likely be more stock available on release day.
I bet they only had like 200 in stock and that is why they sold out.
michelej1
09-28-2020, 08:47 PM
As far as the net worth I saw quoted by some, please don’t take those “net worth” sites as gospel. Certainly don’t use them as “proof” of anyone’s character strengths or flaws. They are not credible, no matter how many times you see them trotted out on Wikipedia and silly entertainment sites.
They are click bait and nothing more.
Jondalar
10-20-2020, 01:59 AM
I am not impressed with her vocal on Crying in the Night, the 2nd single.
https://youtu.be/17KRMOAy5oo
ricohv
10-20-2020, 08:44 AM
I am not impressed with her vocal on Crying in the Night, the 2nd single.
https://youtu.be/17KRMOAy5oo
But at least this song was wrote at a time when she had the sense to keep her songs at a reasonable length!
bombaysaffires
10-20-2020, 03:34 PM
The guitar solo overdub at the end of Gypsy is pretty cringey.
Andyleo
10-21-2020, 07:13 AM
I just got home from seeing the movie. I was very impressed. Gypsy and CINT were not highlights, so don’t be too quick to judge the whole production on those. No Chrissie Hynde, which kinda would have been weird strutting out in the middle of the concert and disappearing again. Waddy was fine on those vocals.
Moonlight was and is a masterpiece here, her vocals are amazing and how I remember them from the concerts I saw in Sydney, it was almost like she saved her voice until that song.
I could write so much more telling you all how impressed I am with the movie. Haters gonna hate, the rest, you will see for yourselves. The stories were not rambling at all and made me laugh more than I did hearing them live.
Finally, Mabel Normand played over the credits, a perfect ending. My highlights were Moonlight, Belle Fleur and Wild Heart/Bella Donna. Hope you all enjoy it as much as I did. :blob1::blob1::blob1::blob1:
DoubtfulMiracle
10-21-2020, 07:30 AM
Also just back from seeing this at the cinema. Absolutely loved it. The quality and production is much better than you’d anticipate from the previews, and any dubbing/lip syncing/post production shenanigans are absolutely not obvious, to the point that I actually don’t think they exist in any great magnitude. Stevie sounds very good.
Moonlight was absolutely my highlight too (and not just because it was written here in Brisbane!). It is stunning. I also loved Wild Heart/Bella Donna, and it reminded me of how much I loved it live in 2017 too.
If you hate Stevie, just don’t watch it. Honestly. You’ll only aggravate yourself and there are far more serious things to be aggravated about in 2020.
If you retain any love for Stevie and her music, I highly recommend it. And if it’s safe where you are, absolutely try to see it at the cinema. My mum and I both remarked how much it made us realise how we’d been craving live music, and this is the closest thing we’ll get for a while yet.
Andyleo
10-21-2020, 07:53 AM
It felt weird not clapping and going crazy after every song tho. Some people clapped at the end of the movie. I think I’ll go again on Sunday, it’s the closest thing to a live show we’ll get for awhile.
Glad you loved it in Brizzie DoubtfulMiracle. How great was that...
DoubtfulMiracle
10-21-2020, 07:57 AM
It felt weird not clapping and going crazy after every song tho. Some people clapped at the end of the movie. I think I’ll go again on Sunday, it’s the closest thing to a live show we’ll get for awhile.
Glad you loved it in Brizzie DoubtfulMiracle. How great was that...
I actually went to clap after the first song and then realised it wasn’t that kind of event lol. It was a great night though. I only realised this thing existed yesterday, so it was a real treat to be able to see it. I would’ve been disappointed to miss it on the big screen.
Andyleo
10-21-2020, 08:01 AM
Haha I also went to clap and had to refrain. I just clapped two fingers together so it felt right lol.
Glad you found it was showing. What a bummer it’d be to miss the big screen experience.
ricohv
10-21-2020, 08:52 AM
To those people who got to see it a the theatre:
1) Wow! It sounds great. I'm so happy to hear the consensus is good. I'm not in love with everything Stevie does these days BUT am happy to hear this seems like a success. And I'm happy when the newest wave of attention she's getting might be based (at least partly) on a viable product, i.e something that warrants the attention (instead of flukes like viral videos and crack pot interviews that gain attention.)
2) How was the theatre experience? Were the theatres full (or as full as they could be with social distance seating?)
Thanks! Glad you all got to go.
Ricoh
mitzo
10-21-2020, 10:13 AM
Happy to hear it is good quality stuff, the show I attended on the tour was amazing and packed to the rafters with genuine fans who even sang along to New Orleans and Moonlight and Starshine! I had tickets to see this film today but my region has gone into a sort of lockdown so no cinemas are allowed to be open and the money was refunded. I really hope they can show it later when things open up again.
TheWildHeart67
10-21-2020, 10:47 AM
How are people posting today at 8am today saying they saw the movie??
It screens 2 evenings, tonight and Sunday
UnwindedDreams
10-21-2020, 11:42 AM
How are people posting today at 8am today saying they saw the movie??
It screens 2 evenings, tonight and Sunday The world beyond America:thumbsup:
TheWildHeart67
10-21-2020, 12:12 PM
The world beyond America
I didn't know this was getting a global theatrical release.
That's awesome!
How full were the theaters?
bombaysaffires
10-21-2020, 02:07 PM
I just got home from seeing the movie. I was very impressed. Gypsy and CINT were not highlights, so don’t be too quick to judge the whole production on those. No Chrissie Hynde, which kinda would have been weird strutting out in the middle of the concert and disappearing again. Waddy was fine on those vocals.
Moonlight was and is a masterpiece here, her vocals are amazing and how I remember them from the concerts I saw in Sydney, it was almost like she saved her voice until that song.
I could write so much more telling you all how impressed I am with the movie. Haters gonna hate, the rest, you will see for yourselves. The stories were not rambling at all and made me laugh more than I did hearing them live.
Finally, Mabel Normand played over the credits, a perfect ending. My highlights were Moonlight, Belle Fleur and Wild Heart/Bella Donna. Hope you all enjoy it as much as I did. :blob1::blob1::blob1::blob1:
1.overdubs. I'm sure there are TONS, as there always are in her/FM's filmed/recorded shows. Blatantly obvious on Gypsy and Crying in the Night vids. (Her vocals, Waddy's vocals, Waddy's guitar, etc).
2. careful editing. She knew she was being filmed, and she spent days and days with them editing it just how she wanted it.
I'm glad people are enjoying it (I know, I know, anyone who isn't up her skirt is a "hater" :lol:) but to think it isn't thoroughly tweaked is to ignore everything about her and her history. This is a woman who demands recordings of radio interviews that she sends back edited how she wants. Same with print interviews. So, yeah.:sorry:
mitzo
10-21-2020, 04:16 PM
1.overdubs. I'm sure there are TONS, as there always are in her/FM's filmed/recorded shows. Blatantly obvious on Gypsy and Crying in the Night vids. (Her vocals, Waddy's vocals, Waddy's guitar, etc).
2. careful editing. She knew she was being filmed, and she spent days and days with them editing it just how she wanted it.
I'm glad people are enjoying it (I know, I know, anyone who isn't up her skirt is a "hater" :lol:) but to think it isn't thoroughly tweaked is to ignore everything about her and her history. This is a woman who demands recordings of radio interviews that she sends back edited how she wants. Same with print interviews. So, yeah.:sorry:
Of course it is tweaked. Doesn't mean the vocals aren't great or that the stories are not entertaining.
DoubtfulMiracle
10-21-2020, 04:19 PM
2) How was the theatre experience? Were the theatres full (or as full as they could be with social distance seating?)
Thanks! Glad you all got to go.
Ricoh
My theatre was very socially distanced (which was a bit weird after being in a football stadium with 39,000 people last week). I would say 80% of the available seats were occupied. It was screening at quite a number of cinemas in my city, so would be interesting to know what numbers were like elsewhere. I expect more people will be at the Sunday session.
StevieandChris
10-21-2020, 08:33 PM
I'm glad people are enjoying it (I know, I know, anyone who isn't up her skirt is a "hater" :lol:) but to think it isn't thoroughly tweaked is to ignore everything about her and
It's all in the language and the intent. Constructive criticism is constructive criticism. That is not hating. Insults/name-calling, crass insinuations, that is where the "haters" designation comes in.
HomerMcvie
10-21-2020, 09:29 PM
It's all in the language and the intent. Constructive criticism is constructive criticism. That is not hating. Insults/name-calling, crass insinuations, that is where the "haters" designation comes in.
You do understand that you're NOT the police here, right?
JeremyGloff
10-21-2020, 11:25 PM
I watched the film in Tampa tonight and absolutely loved it.
I think of seeing the "White Wing Dove" HBO special when I was 7 years old and how much I loved it - and then when I discovered "Red Rocks" in the early 90s and that was such a part of my life. As much as those videos were part of then...I thought how special it was so go see a new Stevie concert film now, in 2020. We're all getting older...too. Thankful for another chapter and a film that's part of it.
And really, who the hell every thought we'd be sitting in a theatre in 2020 hearing fantastic live versions of "Lady From The Mountain", "If You Were My Love" "Crying In The Night" "Wild Heart/Bella Donna" etc etc?
And "Mable Normand" as the closing credits? Ten years ago if someone predicted this we would have banished them lol. (Especially when the late 00s tours were so formulaic.)
24K was really a special era - you could feel the magic in the film.
TheWildHeart67
10-22-2020, 01:12 AM
I saw the film in Boca Raton Florida.
The theatre was about 80% full.
People were applauding after songs, laughing along during her stories, and it was a wonderful experience.
Her voice sounded just like it did when I saw the tour.
I read today that the movie will be streaming soon as well.
This has been such a hard year, and this really was a nice escape.
I loved it ❤️
You do understand that you're NOT the police here, right?
Hahaha.
you always make me smile....sometimes laugh out loud.
This quote was a laugh out loud, coming home on the bus from the dentist...
(It’s okay only a clean)
HomerMcvie
10-22-2020, 10:43 AM
Hahaha.
you always make me smile....sometimes laugh out loud.
This quote was a laugh out loud, coming home on the bus from the dentist...
(It’s okay only a clean)
Thank you, Sue! Not everyone here gets my sense of humor, nor can accept any measure of snark involving their idiotic queen. :lol:
I'm glad you weren't getting any cavities filled!
StevieandChris
10-22-2020, 11:23 AM
You do understand that you're NOT the police here, right?
Haha. Reference aside, to be literal, of course I do. Doesn't change my definitions of haters vs critics.
StevieandChris
10-22-2020, 11:24 AM
I saw the film in Boca Raton Florida.
The theatre was about 80% full.
People were applauding after songs, laughing along during her stories, and it was a wonderful experience.
Her voice sounded just like it did when I saw the tour.
I read today that the movie will be streaming soon as well.
This has been such a hard year, and this really was a nice escape.
I loved it ❤️
Do you know when it will be streaming?
lilyfee
10-22-2020, 11:26 AM
I saw the new concert film at a theater with social distancing where you had to preselect your seats. When I preordered about a week before, there were a few sections still open and when I actually showed up, it looked like all of the available seats were filled!
The theater audience seemed very engaged and entertained throughout, clapping, laughing and singing along to the hits.
I was very impressed with the editing of the film. It really shows Stevie at her best, which I don't always see in her recent music releases. I brought someone who, at best, tolerates my Stevie/Fleetwood Mac obsession but when we left they confided in me that they really liked some of the songs they hadn't heard before and found her personality unexpectedly endearing.
I may go again on Sunday. I think this film would be a great introduction to Stevie for anyone unfamiliar with her, in addition to us fans!
For anyone who has seen the film, who was the person ("The favorite child... Max"?) that Stevie dedicated Landslide to? It went by so quick that I completely missed what she said.
HomerMcvie
10-22-2020, 12:12 PM
Haha. Reference aside, to be literal, of course I do. Doesn't change my definitions of haters vs critics.
Then I shall file that under IDGAF.
mikemono411
10-25-2020, 07:38 PM
Just saw the concert film in an AMC theater in central NJ. There was only about ten of us there, properly socially distanced, with reserve options that wound up blocking out two rows all around our single seat. Made for a less anxiety-inducing experience!
As for the film... I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Didn't get to see the tour so it was a nice treat. The editing was really fabulous: no fast cuts or out of the ordinary shots--though the drones and aerial views could be at times weird.
Stevie was hysterical and witty, as expected, and it made the two-plus hours go by very fast!
The "Gold and Braid" opening was fabulous; "Gold Dust Woman" was particularly captivating and indulgent; "Edge of Seventeen" seemed slower on the backbeat but vocals were great; "Moonlight" was beautiful and stripped down; "Starshine" was rockin' and great... I could go on. Loved it!
P.S. did not know who the child Max was, whom "Landslide" was dedicated to. Also, was amazed during "if You Had My Love" that Waddy switched between guitars early on; I was unsure if the 12-string acoustic wound up being on a loop or if someone else wound up playing it, but couldn't tell, since he switched to electric.
In Your Dreams
10-26-2020, 10:35 AM
Do you know when it will be streaming?
Oct 29 per this article from Deadline:
EXCLUSIVE: Following its global cinema release last week, event music doc Stevie Nicks 24 Karat Gold The Concert is heading to premium VOD as distributor Trafalgar Releasing looks to employ new release strategies in the pandemic era.
The film will be available to rent online from October 29 at 9am PT at a premium $19.99 price point until November 5 at 11.59 PT via the official website. Audiences will have 48 hours to watch after purchase. The move follows similar PVOD endeavors undertaken by studios during the pandemic such as Universal with Trolls World Tour.
This marks the first such VOD release for event cinema specialist Trafalgar, which has to date relied heavily on theatrical in its business model. The company reduced its output while cinemas were disrupted by the pandemic and is now looking to take its ‘event’ style of releasing into the digital sphere, partnering with Nicks and her management company BMG on the release. Trafalgar’s primary focus still remains cinemas, Kymberli Frueh, Trafalgar’s SVP Programming & Content Acquisitions, emphasized to Deadline.
“The central reason from Stevie Nicks and the team at BMG for providing a video-on-demand alternative for the 24 Karat Gold concert film was to create options for consumers, ensuring fans feel safe wherever they watch the film and to hedge against uncertainty around market closures and COVID spikes,” Frueh explained.
“Whether it’s outdoor drive in locations, safely opened cinemas or online options, cinemas remain our main focus as they offer a safe communal experience among fans—especially since concerts and touring have stopped for now. Event cinema brings fans together in their local movie theater to enjoy their favorite artists as a community, as if they were at a live concert.
“While the team liked the opportunity from the onset, it became increasingly important when some cinema chains closed all locations due to lack of new film releases. As COVID concerns continue to keep NY and LA closed, outdoor and online became even more critical as viewing options as these are core markets for fans,” she said.
The film entered cinemas around the world on October 21 and reached number one in the UK and number two in the U.S.; it played in around 900 cinemas worldwide.
Directed and produced by Joe Thomas during Nick’s 67-city sold out 24 Karat Gold Tour, the film explores the inspirations behind some of the musician’s most know songs from her times as a member of Fleetwood Mac and as a solo artist.
ricohv
10-29-2020, 09:03 AM
I saw these stats somewhere else that the film reached #1 & 2 in UK and US, which seems pretty amazing for a concert film of an aging rock star. I'm sure there's not a lot of competition, but still!
Also, does anyone thing the $20 price for VOD seems steep?? I mean, when this is available to purchase (which surely it will be) from Target or wherever, it surely wouldn't cost much more than $20, would it??
I saw these stats somewhere else that the film reached #1 & 2 in UK and US, which seems pretty amazing for a concert film of an aging rock star. I'm sure there's not a lot of competition, but still!
Also, does anyone thing the $20 price for VOD seems steep?? I mean, when this is available to purchase (which surely it will be) from Target or wherever, it surely wouldn't cost much more than $20, would it??
Definitely not. I’m sure it will sell for $19.99 at target. I ordered the CD and I can wait for the DVD to come out to SEE the show. I did miss this tour. 😎
Jondalar
10-29-2020, 11:00 AM
I saw these stats somewhere else that the film reached #1 & 2 in UK and US, which seems pretty amazing for a concert film of an aging rock star. I'm sure there's not a lot of competition, but still!
Also, does anyone thing the $20 price for VOD seems steep?? I mean, when this is available to purchase (which surely it will be) from Target or wherever, it surely wouldn't cost much more than $20, would it??
They are overcharging for VODs right now. The Craft 2 came out and they charged $20 for it too. I think that Hollywood is losing a lot of money due to the virus and they are trying to make it up other ways.
I wouldn’t pay $20 for the concert. The price will go down quickly and in a few months you will be able to buy it in iTunes for less than $10.
jcalzaretta
10-29-2020, 07:04 PM
I am just LOVING Crying in the Night. Wow. Makes me so sad to not get BN released and a tour. That and Without a Leg to Stand On would be so amazingly brilliant.
jbrownsjr
10-29-2020, 07:31 PM
I am just LOVING Crying in the Night. Wow. Makes me so sad to not get BN released and a tour. That and Without a Leg to Stand On would be so amazingly brilliant.
I love both of those songs. The originals of course. But a Deluxe B/N cd would make me so happy.
TheWildHeart67
10-30-2020, 01:17 AM
Here's the box office grosses:
DOMESTIC (68.7%)
$410,265
INTERNATIONAL (31.3%)
$186,640
WORLDWIDE
$596,905
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt13100448/?ref_=bo_se_r_1
stevierocks87
10-30-2020, 08:25 AM
hmmm. Does that even cover the cost to produce it?
TheWildHeart67
10-30-2020, 11:12 AM
hmmm. Does that even cover the cost to produce it?
The movie had a per screen average of $591.00. For just two screenings, during a pandemic, and without the Los Angeles and New York City markets because of the shutdown, it did decent.
Next will be pay per view streaming, The CD set, and eventually DVD and regular streaming.
Probably will be broadcast as well.
stevierocks87
10-30-2020, 12:38 PM
True!
I guess I'll add my 2 cents- I actually went and saw it in the theatre. We were VERY spread out, I would say maybe 20 people in the whole theatre, so it felt fairly safe.
Seeing this combined with the "Show them the way" video has brought me a bit closer to my "old relationship" with Stevie since she fired Lindsey. I don't "love" her the way I once did, don't find her nearly as endearing, and am quite put off by how self-indulgent she's become (or maybe always was). Nonetheless, I've felt a bit more of that Stevie magic than I have felt in quite a while.
Overall I really enjoyed the concert, a few thoughts
-Her stories were mostly cute, if again sometimes a little too self-indulgent. -The new songs were great, and I was pleasantly surprised by the powerful and different take on GDW, especially the ending.
-Seeing the blue shawl during Bella Donna- that's the moment that did me in. That's the Stevie I love. Why doesn't she wear many shawls any more??? I noticed no story about the shawl and her mom being shocked at how much it cost, but that it's held up beautifully and was actually a great purchase. I loved it when she showed it off, so I missed that.
-Edge was def missing something with the bridge cut and not wearing any white. Would putting on a white cloak/shawl really be too difficult? It really does add something that is missing here.
-It would have been nice if she tried to make this show a little special vs. the other ones- doing the longer Edge, wearing more shawls, doing the high notes in Gold and Braid, etc.
But overall I must say it's a treat. I was glad to be reminded a bit of the Stevie I feel in love with. Hoping for the option to be able to purchase it soon!
-Adam
UnwindedDreams
10-30-2020, 12:49 PM
For just two screenings, during a pandemic, and without the Los Angeles and New York City markets because of the shutdown
It actually screened every day from 10/21 through 10/25 just not every day in every city.
There was also one screening in NYC on Thursday 10/22.
sleepless child
10-30-2020, 01:00 PM
True!
I guess I'll add my 2 cents- I actually went and saw it in the theatre. We were VERY spread out, I would say maybe 20 people in the whole theatre, so it felt fairly safe.
Seeing this combined with the "Show them the way" video has brought me a bit closer to my "old relationship" with Stevie since she fired Lindsey. I don't "love" her the way I once did, don't find her nearly as endearing, and am quite put off by how self-indulgent she's become (or maybe always was). Nonetheless, I've felt a bit more of that Stevie magic than I have felt in quite a while.
Overall I really enjoyed the concert, a few thoughts
-Her stories were mostly cute, if again sometimes a little too self-indulgent. -The new songs were great, and I was pleasantly surprised by the powerful and different take on GDW, especially the ending.
-Seeing the blue shawl during Bella Donna- that's the moment that did me in. That's the Stevie I love. Why doesn't she wear many shawls any more??? I noticed no story about the shawl and her mom being shocked at how much it cost, but that it's held up beautifully and was actually a great purchase. I loved it when she showed it off, so I missed that.
-Edge was def missing something with the bridge cut and not wearing any white. Would putting on a white cloak/shawl really be too difficult? It really does add something that is missing here.
-It would have been nice if she tried to make this show a little special vs. the other ones- doing the longer Edge, wearing more shawls, doing the high notes in Gold and Braid, etc.
But overall I must say it's a treat. I was glad to be reminded a bit of the Stevie I feel in love with. Hoping for the option to be able to purchase it soon!
-Adam
I agree 100% with everything you say. I paid the 19.99 for the VOD and watched it yesterday. She sucked me in during Wild Heart/Bella Donna. I also loved New Orleans and Moonlight. I was at this show in Pittsburgh and really wanted to see myself in the audience. I see me several times pretty well during Enchanted. I was in front of Carlos, a few rows back on the end. Anyway, I could have done with out the stories. I remember years ago, wanting to know what every word in her songs meant, now, not so much. LOL. GDW brought chills. I loved it. Seeing it on the screen was so much better than being there actually. You're able to really see things you missed during the concert. Now I know why she wanted to do Stop Draggin' my heart around again. No Chrissy this time. I am still bewildered why she had Lindsey canned, but I guess I can still enjoy the music she has brought to the world. I really did enjoy this movie.
David
10-30-2020, 01:22 PM
I haven’t seen a rock or pop concert in a movie theater since I saw Jonathan Demme’s film of a Neil Young concert in Nashville about ten years ago (beautiful movie it was, too, with a closing scene that seemed to summarize not only Neil Young’s body of music but his personality). The movie was good at giving you glimpses into the performer and his work that you wouldn’t have had merely by being at the show. That’s what a good concert film can do: The Last Waltz, The Song Remains the Same, Monterey Pop, Stop Making Sense, Rolling Thunder Revue, Rattle and Hum, Soul Power, and I’ve heard that Springsteen’s Broadway movie does the same thing. Is this Stevie thing interesting in a cinematic way? Or is it just a long-form MTV-ish video with fast and choppy cutting and TV camera setups? Does it have anything to make the film itself memorable twenty years from now to movie lovers? Or is it just a Stevie Nicks fan memento?
UnwindedDreams
10-30-2020, 01:45 PM
Cinematically, the only cool thing is Gold Dust Woman crack head. They have drone view shots and perspectives from the front or first few rows which are nice but it's not a concert film like Shine a Light
It's a good concert but it's a concert. If you saw the tour or didn't see the tour, you'll like it. But it's kind of like a one time watch. The only impressive costume is the Moonlight one.
TheWildHeart67
10-30-2020, 03:18 PM
It actually screened every day from 10/21 through 10/25 just not every day in every city.
There was also one screening in NYC on Thursday 10/22.
I didn't know that it played all week in some theatres. It didn't at the theater I saw it at. Only Wednesday and Sunday..
That's still a decent box office gross though. Especially when you look at the current climate of the box office ever since movie theaters reopened.
I'm just bummed I have to wait to purchase it!
I'm not paying $19.95 to rent it for 48 hours. I paid $15 to see it at the cinema.
I'll wait and buy the DVD. I'd buy a digital copy on Vudu as well, as I have a decent library in my digital locker there.
Jondalar
10-30-2020, 07:21 PM
The album is not doing good as a new release. Especially with all the promotion. It’s only #16. Blah. It won’t sell 100,000k.
TheWildHeart67
10-30-2020, 07:57 PM
The album is not doing good as a new release. Especially with all the promotion. It’s only #16. Blah. It won’t sell 100,000k.
It's not going to sell many CD's. Live albums don't generally sell many copies.
Jondalar
10-31-2020, 11:43 AM
When Stevie name dropped Princes name right before Moonlight, it almost ruined the song for me. I really am tired of her snobbery. She’s a fake snob. Harry Styles give me a break.
UnwindedDreams
10-31-2020, 11:56 AM
It's not going to sell many CD's. Live albums don't generally sell many copies.
It's also only being sold at Target stores. It sold out preorders.
Jondalar
10-31-2020, 05:15 PM
It's also only being sold at Target stores. It sold out preorders.
Not true. It’s been sold on iTunes and other digital outlets.
UnwindedDreams
10-31-2020, 05:28 PM
Not true. It’s been sold on iTunes and other digital outlets.
Itunes sells you a CD with liner notes? Is that true?
I just finished listening to the cd, I think it’s actually quite good. I missed the live show and I’m happy to have this for my collection.
Jondalar
10-31-2020, 07:30 PM
Is Stevie on her broom tonight?
HomerMcvie
10-31-2020, 11:47 PM
Is Stevie on her broom tonight?
Possibly not in the normal fashion?
soul_drifter333
11-04-2020, 06:41 PM
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/04/930448701/stevie-nicks-on-tiktok-tom-petty-and-claiming-whats-yours
michelej1
11-04-2020, 10:03 PM
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/04/930448701/stevie-nicks-on-tiktok-tom-petty-and-claiming-whats-yours
Stevie said she was going to call that Tik Tok guy and thank him. Now, are you happy people? That’s a nice picture of her in the article.
UnwindedDreams
11-04-2020, 10:25 PM
That’s a nice picture of her in the article.
I suppose it is. Would've been nice if she showed her teeth!
soul_drifter333
11-05-2020, 02:03 PM
Stevie said she was going to call that Tik Tok guy and thank him. Now, are you happy people? That’s a nice picture of her in the article.
That's just Stevie speak for I'm not going to interact with the poor and common but since I have this project to promote and interviewers keep asking...:laugh:
Are her people providing the only questions that she is willing to answer? Every interview is the same.
Storms123
11-05-2020, 10:48 PM
Stevie said she was going to call that Tik Tok guy and thank him. Now, are you happy people? That’s a nice picture of her in the article.
She also said when you are in a band like Fleetwood Mac, you have to be a team player, but clearly she's proven that's not the case. There's no I in team, except when you spell team "STEVIE" Shame on NPR for not calling that out.
UnwindedDreams
11-10-2020, 10:23 AM
Unfortunately, the live CD didn't make the Billboard 200; chart was released today.
TheWildHeart67
11-10-2020, 12:05 PM
Unfortunately, the live CD didn't make the Billboard 200; chart was released today.
That's expected.
Her last few releases were 85% physical sales vs streaming.
They only made a limited number of physical copies exclusive to Target. Does anyone know how many CD's were made? Apparently not many.
I don't care how little it sells. I absolutely love it.
It's a nice document of the tour.
I can't wait to purchase a digital copy or DVD of the movie.
blinker12
11-10-2020, 12:08 PM
Cute interview. She sounds like she's having fun with it, funny, and Ari is obviously a fan.
jbrownsjr
11-10-2020, 12:15 PM
Unfortunately, the live CD didn't make the Billboard 200; chart was released today.
Wow, I would have thought with the Dreams pushes on tik tok that it would have at least debuted up in the charts somewhere.
UnwindedDreams
11-10-2020, 12:19 PM
Does anyone know how many CD's were made? Apparently not many.
I don't care how little it sells. I absolutely love it.
It's a nice document of the tour.
Idk how many were produced but I would've thought at least 100,000 considering the US is 300 million + population.
It's a good cd. It would've been nice if she made improvements to the rest of the album like she did with the Stand Back high note. She only hit that note once on the tour and it wasn't in Pittsburgh.
Gypsy, If Anyone Falls, Stop Draggin' could've used some high note embellishments while she was in Chicago in May 2020.
Jondalar
11-10-2020, 01:35 PM
The album completely tanked. It’s not even registering in the Top Rock albums on iTunes. Let alone it never even debuted in the Top 200 on Billboard. It had tons of promotion. She won’t make another album after this. It’s too embarrassing and she is supposed to be a mega star.
HomerMcvie
11-10-2020, 01:40 PM
The album completely tanked. It’s not even registering in the Top Rock albums on iTunes. Let alone it never even debuted in the Top 200 on Billboard. It had tons of promotion. She won’t make another album after this. It’s too embarrassing and she is supposed to be a mega star.
Karma's a real bitch, ain't it. :lol::lol::lol:
jbrownsjr
11-10-2020, 03:58 PM
The album completely tanked. It’s not even registering in the Top Rock albums on iTunes. Let alone it never even debuted in the Top 200 on Billboard. It had tons of promotion. She won’t make another album after this. It’s too embarrassing and she is supposed to be a mega star.
Not to mention her voice is nails on a chalkboard for most of the tunes.
michelej1
11-10-2020, 04:43 PM
The album completely tanked. It’s not even registering in the Top Rock albums on iTunes. Let alone it never even debuted in the Top 200 on Billboard. It had tons of promotion. She won’t make another album after this. It’s too embarrassing and she is supposed to be a mega star.
But how many stars over 70 are having hit albums?
UnwindedDreams
11-10-2020, 05:19 PM
But how many stars over 70 are having hit albums?
Elton, JT, Cher, Babs, Roger Waters, Macca.
TheWildHeart67
11-10-2020, 07:35 PM
But how many stars over 70 are having hit albums?
Elton, JT, Cher, Babs, Roger Waters, Macca
This isn't a studio album. Her last 2 studio albums had decent top ten debuts, but beyond that, like most artists her age, don't sustain beyond that.
Despite the Tiktok viral videos, young folks aren't going to buy a concert album of rare songs and some hits.
They buy the "Rumours" version.
"Dreams" isn't even on the new concert setlist.
Sales of this CD aren't going to diminish her status.
Anything she releases at this point isn't going to change anything, regardless if it sells.
She cemented her status as a rock icon years ago.
The actual movie did decent business, according to Variety and box office mojo.
When it's released on video for sale, it will do well. Her "Soundstage" concert hit #1 on the DVD chart, but the CD version barely sold 40,000 copies
She's not ever going to have a big selling solo album again.
If she releases another solo album, it'll debut decently and drop off the charts.
UnwindedDreams
11-10-2020, 07:42 PM
This isn't a studio album. Her last 2 studio albums had decent top ten debuts, but beyond that, like most artists her age, don't sustain beyond that.
Despite the Tiktok viral videos, young folks aren't going to buy a concert album of rare songs and some hits.
They buy the "Rumours" version.
"Dreams" isn't even on the new concert setlist.
Sales of this CD aren't going to diminish her status.
Anything she releases at this point isn't going to change anything, regardless if it sells.
She cemented her status as a rock icon years ago.
The actual movie did decent business, according to Variety and box office mojo.
When it's released on video for sale, it will do well. Her "Soundstage" concert hit #1 on the DVD chart, but the CD version barely sold 40,000 copies
She's not ever going to have a big selling solo album again.
If she releases another solo album, it'll debut decently and drop off the charts.
I didn't say anything about her status. I have the cd and I saw the tour five times.
I'm surprised that it didn't chart. Soundstage Sessions charted.
Live albums and compilations do sell though. The Stand Back anthology didn't chart either. It's just surprising with all the press she gets that the record didn't sell.
I'm sure the Midnight Sky remix will be a number one hit though.
TheWildHeart67
11-10-2020, 07:51 PM
I didn't say anything about her status. I have the cd and I saw the tour five times.
I'm surprised that it didn't chart. Soundstage Sessions charted.
Live albums and compilations do sell though. The Stand Back anthology didn't chart either. It's just surprising with all the press she gets that the record didn't sell.
I'm sure the Midnight Sky remix will be a number one hit though.
I love the Midnight Sky remix too❤️
UnwindedDreams
11-10-2020, 08:19 PM
I love the Midnight Sky remix too❤️
I feel it too. It's real good!
Jondalar
11-10-2020, 09:26 PM
She would only have to sell like 3000 copies of this to chart and she didn’t. Tons of promotion. That’s what she gets for turning off some supporters. I do like the album though.
TheWildHeart67
11-10-2020, 10:06 PM
She would only have to sell like 3000 copies of this to chart and she didn’t. Tons of promotion. That’s what she gets for turning off some supporters. I do like the album though.
So you do like the album?
Please share your positive feedback of the album?
Without any regards to sales or Lindsey.
Jondalar
11-10-2020, 11:09 PM
So you do like the album?
Please share your positive feedback of the album?
Without any regards to sales or Lindsey.
I already said I like the album. I like her song choices. I actually like Moonlight the most. It’s a good live album.
sleepless child
11-11-2020, 08:50 AM
I agree too it's a great live album. Gold Dust Woman is fantastic! I also like this version of Rhiannon too. I think it's the best since her 81 HBO show.
The film was good also. I thought it would do better especially with the Tik Tok video being so popular.
blinker12
11-11-2020, 01:39 PM
I get all the criticism of late, but damn if the woman can’t still give me chills. Moonlight!!! The highlight of the album just as it was of the concert, for my money. Those last falsetto notes. Wish she’d treat us to those more often.
One quibble, the random crowd noise a la The Beatles on Ed Sullivan in the 1960s. Was this to hide edits? It is certainly not how things sounded at the actual concert LOL.
mitzo
11-11-2020, 01:44 PM
She would only have to sell like 3000 copies of this to chart and she didn’t. Tons of promotion. That’s what she gets for turning off some supporters. I do like the album though.
I doubt that her firing of Linds 2 and a half years ago has much if anything to do with low sales. The vast majority of the world couldn't care less.
The album is really for serious fans. And even then many will give it a pass. I haven't bought it nor am I likely to, although I want to see the film.
I buy her new material, not rehashes. I did not buy the Soundstage things, Crystal Visions, nor the Stand Back compilation, but I have bought/downloaded all the one offs and duets etc over recent years.
Jondalar
11-11-2020, 02:42 PM
Ok so my highlights because they were unexpected- I also like everything from 24K gold.
1. Moonlight
2. Wild Heart/Bella Donna
3. New Orleans
4. Crying in the Night
Very sad that people won’t hear this.
UnwindedDreams
11-11-2020, 02:50 PM
I doubt that her firing of Linds 2 and a half years ago has much if anything to do with low sales. The vast majority of the world couldn't care less.
The album is really for serious fans. And even then many will give it a pass. I haven't bought it nor am I likely to, although I want to see the film.
I buy her new material, not rehashes. I did not buy the Soundstage things, Crystal Visions, nor the Stand Back compilation, but I have bought/downloaded all the one offs and duets etc over recent years.
I think they meant they were turned off by her calling Trump poisonous and that she laughed that he got the virus or whatever she said like that.
I bought Soundstage bc it has Crash Into Me and Circle Dance on it and good live recordings of Beauty and the Beast and How Still My Love.
I think CV has my favorite live Edge ever.
mitzo
11-11-2020, 05:36 PM
I think they meant they were turned off by her calling Trump poisonous and that she laughed that he got the virus or whatever she said like that.
I bought Soundstage bc it has Crash Into Me and Circle Dance on it and good live recordings of Beauty and the Beast and How Still My Love.
I think CV has my favorite live Edge ever.
OK I am with you on people being turned off by her political leanings and comments.
mitzo
11-11-2020, 05:37 PM
Ok so my highlights because they were unexpected- I also like everything from 24K gold.
1. Moonlight
2. Wild Heart/Bella Donna
3. New Orleans
4. Crying in the Night
Very sad that people won’t hear this.
I loved If You Were My Love in the concert. And your list...OK I guess I will buy the album LOL
UnwindedDreams
11-11-2020, 06:18 PM
OK I am with you on people being turned off by her political leanings and comments.
Oh, I don't think her comments affected sales. I agree with her comments.
I think the reality is she doesn't have an enormous consuming fanbase like older stars The Stones, Madonna, or Elton do who buy everything they put out. Her fanbase is big but I think it's stronger in ticket sales than music sales.
I was just sharing what I comprehended Jondalar ' s comments about the sales to mean and I didn't gather they were related to the Lindsey firing but rather to her opinion of Trump.
ricohv
11-13-2020, 01:17 AM
I think they meant they were turned off by her calling Trump poisonous and that she laughed that he got the virus or whatever she said like that.
I bought Soundstage bc it has Crash Into Me and Circle Dance on it and good live recordings of Beauty and the Beast and How Still My Love.
I think CV has my favorite live Edge ever.
YESSS...OMG...that is the best live Edge of 17 ever!!
greendaze5
11-13-2020, 09:26 AM
Still waiting for my copy from Amazon. :mad:
I notice that the ones sold by Target have a red sticker saying 'Exclusive Limited Edition Album Art'.
What does that mean? Do the non-Target ones have no pictures inside the CD package?
stevierocks87
11-13-2020, 01:17 PM
I was under the impression that Target was the only retailer selling the CD version?
I picked up a copy- first CD I have bought since 2012 I think. It's some of the best packaging she's ever had so I had to. It's gorgeous.
It's really a pretty standard CD booklet though, I can't imagine they are selling a version without it.
This might be the best officially recorded version of GDW ever. She still OWNS that song. Wow.
On Ice
11-13-2020, 01:37 PM
This is really a great CD! I'm impressed with Gold Dust Woman a great vibe and sung with great conviction- see she can still sing when she puts her heart into it! The ending of Moon light- was awesome tone to those last notes wish she would do more of this and should've done it in New Orleans. Nicely done and I would. be ok if she went out with this and called it a day except for maybe a few songs and one off's going forward. She doesn't have the writing skills to pull off a great album anymore and long tours can burn her out. And Edge of Seventeen, finally sounds great live!
UnwindedDreams
11-13-2020, 01:37 PM
I notice that the ones sold by Target have a red sticker saying 'Exclusive Limited Edition Album Art'.
What does that mean? Do the non-Target ones have no pictures inside the CD package?
The CD Album Art is the inside of the package; the art's not in the liner notes book.
It's two flaps I guess is the word imprinted with shiny gold frames that have concert photos of band members within those pretty frames.
UnwindedDreams
11-13-2020, 01:40 PM
The ending of Moon light- was awesome tone to those last notes wish she would do more of this and should've done it in New Orleans.
I can't recall any falsetto in the New Orleans IAYD recording.
I wish she would've went high for the last lyric of IYWML like it's done on the 24 Karat Gold album.
On Ice
11-13-2020, 01:47 PM
Have a listen to New Orleans on IYD- Brush by..... it was really nice!
greendaze5
11-13-2020, 07:42 PM
The CD Album Art is the inside of the package; the art's not in the liner notes book.
It's two flaps I guess is the word imprinted with shiny gold frames that have concert photos of band members within those pretty frames.
Thanks for the info!
Unless, I'm mistaken, it looks like the Target version has the lettering done in stamped gold foil, but not the ones sold elsewhere.
Jondalar
11-13-2020, 08:45 PM
Since the album is not selling well, I would make sure you get your CDs from Target fast. They won’t be making many more.
HomerMcvie
11-14-2020, 01:32 AM
Since the album is not selling well, I would make sure you get your CDs from Target fast. They won’t be making many more.
Exactly. Looks like karma has began to pay her back.
It's about time...
greendaze5
11-14-2020, 09:44 AM
This is really a great CD! I'm impressed with Gold Dust Woman a great vibe and sung with great conviction- see she can still sing when she puts her heart into it! The ending of Moon light- was awesome tone to those last notes wish she would do more of this and should've done it in New Orleans. Nicely done and I would. be ok if she went out with this and called it a day except for maybe a few songs and one off's going forward. She doesn't have the writing skills to pull off a great album anymore and long tours can burn her out. And Edge of Seventeen, finally sounds great live!
And it's great that the album has the whole setlist, though I think 'Dreams' and 'Annabelle Lee' were dropped early on.
Brings back good memories of the show I saw (in Seattle). :thumbsup:
UnwindedDreams
11-14-2020, 03:21 PM
Since the album is not selling well, I would make sure you get your CDs from Target fast. They won’t be making many more.
It was "limited" production from the outset. There might be a sales pickup with the press she's getting from the Miley Cyrus collab. Also, Xmas shopping might result in the copies selling out from the Target shelves.
I heard Show Them the Way on Sirius' The Pulse today.
Jondalar
11-14-2020, 03:58 PM
It was "limited" production from the outset. There might be a sales pickup with the press she's getting from the Miley Cyrus collab. Also, Xmas shopping might result in the copies selling out from the Target shelves.
I heard Show Them the Way on Sirius' The Pulse today.
I’m sorry but if she can’t even crack the Top 200, her career is over. I never thought I would live to see the day she couldn’t even crack the Top 200. She is smart enough to know not to waste more money on making a new album. Her solo career has ended. Sigh....
David
11-14-2020, 06:55 PM
And it's great that the album has the whole setlist, though I think 'Dreams' and 'Annabelle Lee' were dropped early on.
Wait, are you saying that “Annabel Lee” is not on this? That is one of my all-time favorites.
greendaze5
11-14-2020, 07:33 PM
Wait, are you saying that “Annabel Lee” is not on this? That is one of my all-time favorites.
Nope, :sorry:
According to this set-list site, 'Annabel Lee' was only performed 5 times on the '24K' tour, so it didn't end up on the new album.
https://www.setlist.fm/stats/stevie-nicks-5bd6d740.html?tour=13d7d571
BombaySapphire3
11-14-2020, 09:54 PM
This is really a great CD! I'm impressed with Gold Dust Woman a great vibe and sung with great conviction- see she can still sing when she puts her heart into it! The ending of Moon light- was awesome tone to those last notes wish she would do more of this and should've done it in New Orleans. Nicely done and I would. be ok if she went out with this and called it a day except for maybe a few songs and one off's going forward. She doesn't have the writing skills to pull off a great album anymore and long tours can burn her out. And Edge of Seventeen, finally sounds great live!
The live CD actually has some very good moments as for a new album if the dreadful Show Them the Way is any indication she has really lost it. Her writing skills and musicality have deserted her.
jalfim1
11-28-2020, 02:18 AM
I picked up the clear vinyl version at Barnes and Noble today. Nice heavyweight vinyl and it has great album art.....much better than the cd version from Target!
bwboy
11-28-2020, 06:34 AM
A limited edition CD sold only at Target wouldn't chart on Billboard. When the DVD of the concert is released, I'm sure the CD will be released as well, and to all outlets, not just Target. That's when the CD will chart on Billboard.
HomerMcvie
11-28-2020, 10:53 AM
A limited edition CD sold only at Target wouldn't chart on Billboard. When the DVD of the concert is released, I'm sure the CD will be released as well, and to all outlets, not just Target. That's when the CD will chart on Billboard.
The Eagles last album was #1 with a Walmart only release. So there you have it.:wavey:
bwboy
11-29-2020, 07:54 AM
Thank you for the correction, HomerMcvie. I guess when I saw the CD listed as a 'limited release,' I assumed that meant a limited pressing.
The 24 Karat Gold concert will be airing on PBS this Friday Dec 4.
blinker12
11-29-2020, 11:35 AM
^Cool, thanks for the tip! It’s also streaming on demand now if you have Passport (ie, contribute are least $5/mo to your local PBS station).
https://www.pbs.org/show/stevie-nicks-24-karat-gold-tour/
UnwindedDreams
11-29-2020, 11:41 AM
^Cool, thanks for the tip! It’s also streaming on demand now if you have Passport (ie, contribute are least $5/mo to your local PBS station).
https://www.pbs.org/show/stevie-nicks-24-karat-gold-tour/
According to PBS.org, it debuted on TV yesterday.
Good job Stevie Nicks marketing!:rolleyes:
I'm surprised this isn't on Netflix or Showtime.
In Your Dreams
11-29-2020, 02:46 PM
Thank you for the correction, HomerMcvie. I guess when I saw the CD listed as a 'limited release,' I assumed that meant a limited pressing.
The 24 Karat Gold concert will be airing on PBS this Friday Dec 4.
In Chicago it’s on our PBS station tomorrow; Monday, Nov 30 at 9PM. I think you need to check your local listings to see when it will air in your area. But thanks for the heads up I wouldn’t have been looking for it to air this soon outside of streaming.
sleepless child
11-29-2020, 06:50 PM
Not airing in the Pittsburgh area. Bummer.
In Your Dreams
12-01-2020, 11:11 AM
Just a forewarning, the PBS special isn’t the complete version of the concert shown in theatres. It edits out all the talking (some people here may prefer that), has a different running order than the cd and is not the complete set list. It also skipped a bit during a couple songs (Moonlight, Crying In The Night and Edge) but maybe that was technical issues with the station and not the show.
sleepless child
12-01-2020, 02:18 PM
The blu-ray dvd is listed as coming out January 15th. 2021. So we will get the original version to buy then.
paleshadow
12-02-2020, 03:05 PM
The Eagles last album was #1 with a Walmart only release. So there you have it.:wavey:
Apples and oranges. The Eagles Walmart exclusive was their first studio album of new material in 28 years vs. what is basically a live greatest hits album from someone who never really was away from the spotlight in a long time.
UnwindedDreams
12-02-2020, 03:28 PM
Apples and oranges. The Eagles Walmart exclusive was their first studio album of new material in 28 years vs. what is basically a live greatest hits album from someone who never really was away from the spotlight in a long time.
Garth Brooks sold a multi-disc greatest hits exclusively through Target and it hit top 10.
He another compilation through Walmart too and hit Top 10.
Is 24 Karat Gold Live CD a greatest hits? I thought she said there were 6 new songs in the set.
Not sure if it's apples and oranges. She's had millions of people finding out who she is through tiktok, an interview on national tv, a theatrically released film with an ad for the cd and vinyl at the end, and an extraordinary amount of press. She's the most popular and successful artist int he world.
Eagles didn't have social media and it was a horrible economy when that album was released.
HomerMcvie
12-02-2020, 05:52 PM
Apples and oranges. The Eagles Walmart exclusive was their first studio album of new material in 28 years vs. what is basically a live greatest hits album from someone who never really was away from the spotlight in a long time.
:lol:
Whatevs.
Classic artists from the same era. One hits #1, and one is a dud. GOT IT!:lol::lol::lol:
SteveMacD
12-02-2020, 09:05 PM
The Eagles last album was #1 with a Walmart only release. So there you have it.:wavey:
Do you think a store exclusive Don Henley or Glen Frey solo live CD would have fared better?
Furthermore, it’s her fourth solo live release.
mitzo
12-02-2020, 09:53 PM
:lol:
Whatevs.
Classic artists from the same era. One hits #1, and one is a dud. GOT IT!:lol::lol::lol:
It is high time she did a 45 minute Zoom concert from her living room for $15 a pop. The measure of a true artist.
UnwindedDreams
12-02-2020, 10:01 PM
^ She couldn't perform 45 minutes on her own. She'd have to sing without accompaniment. Think she could play Landslide on the goya?
SteveMacD
12-02-2020, 10:26 PM
^ She couldn't perform 45 minutes on her own. She'd have to sing without accompaniment. Think she could play Landslide on the goya?
Okay. She’d have to get Waddy and charge $20. :rolleyes:
UnwindedDreams
12-02-2020, 10:35 PM
Okay. She’d have to get Waddy and charge $20. :rolleyes:
LOL. I think she'd need Darrel and Ricky too. But she'd charge $500 a ticket.
Melissa Etheridge does amazing at home concerts. She makes drum, vocal, loops+
HomerMcvie
12-02-2020, 10:54 PM
LOL. I think she'd need Darrel and Ricky too. But she'd charge $500 a ticket.
Melissa Etheridge does amazing at home concerts. She makes drum, vocal, loops+
Because $he's worth even more than that. Just ask her.
Well, you see, Melissa is an actual artist. More than just a created persona.
HomerMcvie
12-02-2020, 10:56 PM
Do you think a store exclusive Don Henley or Glen Frey solo live CD would have fared better?
Furthermore, it’s her fourth solo live release.
Don? ABSOF*CKINGLUTELY.
FOUR live releases? Boy, $he really is dried out, in more ways than one.
SteveMacD
12-02-2020, 11:15 PM
Melissa Etheridge does amazing at home concerts. She makes drum, vocal, loops+
Just like Lindsey’s regular concerts.
SteveMacD
12-02-2020, 11:18 PM
Don? ABSOF*CKINGLUTELY.
I’m not convinced, but maybe.
FOUR live releases? Boy, $he really is dried out, in more ways than one.
I don’t disagree. The well dried up in 1985. It’s been occasional hit and mostly miss ever since.
HomerMcvie
12-03-2020, 01:41 AM
I’m not convinced, but maybe.
I don’t disagree. The well dried up in 1985. It’s been occasional hit and mostly miss ever since.
OMFG...
You didn't argue a point. :angel:
Somebody call me an ambulance!
UnwindedDreams
12-03-2020, 10:24 AM
Just like Lindsey’s regular concerts.
And plenty of other performers. I think Lindsey concerts are excellent.
paleshadow
12-03-2020, 11:10 AM
Garth Brooks sold a multi-disc greatest hits exclusively through Target and it hit top 10.
He another compilation through Walmart too and hit Top 10.
Is 24 Karat Gold Live CD a greatest hits? I thought she said there were 6 new songs in the set.
Not sure if it's apples and oranges. She's had millions of people finding out who she is through tiktok, an interview on national tv, a theatrically released film with an ad for the cd and vinyl at the end, and an extraordinary amount of press. She's the most popular and successful artist int he world.
Eagles didn't have social media and it was a horrible economy when that album was released.
The GB comparison is closer. Apples to pears. Even though it was a boxed set, Garth Brooks exclusive release did include 18 unreleased tracks, which is basically a whole album of new material.
Previously recorded studio tracks performed live I wouldn't consider "new material".
While the 2007-2009 economy was horrible, we're still going through the current financial issues, so it's hard to say which will end up being worse in the history books.
Having said that, I don't think a full or even partial album of new Stevie material would necessarily have charted either, but that's left to be seen I suppose.
UnwindedDreams
12-03-2020, 02:58 PM
Previously recorded studio tracks performed live I wouldn't consider "new material".
Was Gold and Braid a studio track? Maybe it was on the Bella Donna Expanded Edition.
I think she did the Target CD exclusive because they paid big money for the exclusivity, or was it because mgmt. didn't expect big sales with a wider release.
I liked how the 24KG album had a special through her site where you could get the two extra tracks and a surprise lithograph. I got the one with her holding a cigarette or a pen?
IYD did the same through her site but you could also get the extra track CD only and B & N.
David
12-03-2020, 03:05 PM
Having said that, I don't think a full or even partial album of new Stevie material would necessarily have charted either, but that's left to be seen I suppose.I just don’t understand why these people need to worry about charts all the time. I know they all have lifestyles that have to be sustained, but you would think that all those repackages of Rumours and all those multimillion-dollar tours allow them to sustain their lavish lifestyles AND produce new music just to find that spark of life in them. They don’t have to be relevant to the times — they have to be relevant to life. But they’re all so fixated on charts and marketing and maximal yields. It’s that crazed drive for selling every product they make that is beginning to sound like the true legacy of Fleetwood Mac. To think that the first and greatest member of the band — the person who started it all — very soon concluded that the marketing and the music were going to be a very uneasy alliance, and that he was more interested in the latter, really says something (especially since they labeled him nuts at the time). Maybe he was right in 1969–70. If everything you do is calculated to reap big profits even after you have made a killing, you really won’t have much to contribute to the artistic or emotional well-being of a society. If you pull in millions from five or six albums and still can’t live the way you want and create what you want from that point on, you’re doing something wrong ...
... unless you’re in fact a corporation, not an artist.
blinker12
12-03-2020, 07:01 PM
Just a forewarning, the PBS special isn’t the complete version of the concert shown in theatres. It edits out all the talking (some people here may prefer that), has a different running order than the cd and is not the complete set list. It also skipped a bit during a couple songs (Moonlight, Crying In The Night and Edge) but maybe that was technical issues with the station and not the show.
If you stream the version that’s on PBS Passport (their streaming app), it’s the full version with all the talking.
HomerMcvie
12-03-2020, 09:06 PM
I just don’t understand why these people need to worry about charts all the time. I know they all have lifestyles that have to be sustained, but you would think that all those repackages of Rumours and all those multimillion-dollar tours allow them to sustain their lavish lifestyles AND produce new music just to find that spark of life in them. They don’t have to be relevant to the times — they have to be relevant to life. But they’re all so fixated on charts and marketing and maximal yields. It’s that crazed drive for selling every product they make that is beginning to sound like the true legacy of Fleetwood Mac. To think that the first and greatest member of the band — the person who started it all — very soon concluded that the marketing and the music were going to be a very uneasy alliance, and that he was more interested in the latter, really says something (especially since they labeled him nuts at the time). Maybe he was right in 1969–70. If everything you do is calculated to reap big profits even after you have made a killing, you really won’t have much to contribute to the artistic or emotional well-being of a society. If you pull in millions from five or six albums and still can’t live the way you want and create what you want from that point on, you’re doing something wrong ...
... unless you’re in fact a corporation, not an artist.
A yes staff doesn't say yes for free.
SteveMacD
12-03-2020, 09:27 PM
... unless you’re in fact a corporation, not an artist.
They’ve been a corporation ever since they fired Mick and brought on Irving Azoff.
jbrownsjr
12-04-2020, 06:42 AM
They’ve been a corporation ever since they fired Mick and brought on Irving Azoff.
BINGO! ding ding ding ding ding ding.... You've been saying that since you joined TL. It's reality.
BombaySapphire3
12-04-2020, 11:23 AM
They’ve been a corporation ever since they fired Mick and brought on Irving Azoff.
Which is probably one of the reasons that their final two studio albums were more light weight pop than rock with an emphasis on hit singles. They seemed to have transformed into ABBA ..only ABBA was better at that sort of thing.
mitzo
12-04-2020, 01:38 PM
Which is probably one of the reasons that their final two studio albums were more light weight pop than rock with an emphasis on hit singles. They seemed to have transformed into ABBA ..only ABBA was better at that sort of thing.
When were they ever rock? All the albums from White Album through SYW are pure pop. As is Buckingham McVie.
BombaySapphire3
12-04-2020, 01:44 PM
When were they ever rock? All the albums from White Album through SYW are pure pop. As is Buckingham McVie.
I wouldn't classify songs like "World Turning" "I'm So Afraid " "Go Your Own Way ' "The Chain " or "Sisters of the Moon"as pure pop. Sure they weren't Black Sabbath but they were not exactly Captain and Tennille either.
paleshadow
12-04-2020, 02:48 PM
I just don’t understand why these people need to worry about charts all the time. I know they all have lifestyles that have to be sustained, but you would think that all those repackages of Rumours and all those multimillion-dollar tours allow them to sustain their lavish lifestyles AND produce new music just to find that spark of life in them. They don’t have to be relevant to the times — they have to be relevant to life. But they’re all so fixated on charts and marketing and maximal yields. It’s that crazed drive for selling every product they make that is beginning to sound like the true legacy of Fleetwood Mac. To think that the first and greatest member of the band — the person who started it all — very soon concluded that the marketing and the music were going to be a very uneasy alliance, and that he was more interested in the latter, really says something (especially since they labeled him nuts at the time). Maybe he was right in 1969–70. If everything you do is calculated to reap big profits even after you have made a killing, you really won’t have much to contribute to the artistic or emotional well-being of a society. If you pull in millions from five or six albums and still can’t live the way you want and create what you want from that point on, you’re doing something wrong ...
... unless you’re in fact a corporation, not an artist.
I agree. Especially with Stevie, lots of missed opportunities because of being concerned with image/charts/ singles.
michelej1
12-07-2020, 02:05 AM
LOL. I think she'd need Darrel and Ricky too. But she'd charge $500 a ticket.
Melissa Etheridge does amazing at home concerts. She makes drum, vocal, loops+
I wonder if Prince would have done home concerts. He was always famous for impromptu shows. Never needed more than in a pandemic.
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